IVF with PGD #5

[Motherhood here i come!]

Ladies, Just a quick one as finding it hard to contain my excitment at the moment and need to release in some way

Well just got the call, of the 8 eggs collected, 7 of our little darlings (or sprogs as Im coming to call them) have fertilised normally. One hurdle down and a few more to go. Next update on our little sprogs will be Friday. FX and a lot of .

[Jaki80]

That is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How exciting!!!!!!!!!!
Good work
xx

[Jaki80]

Wont get my BT results until tomorrow morning as the pathologist decided they had to send it to sydney for testing. Im very annoyed. Also the nurse was a cow, made me feel stupid and made me cry.

[ferrals4]

Jaki-everything will be fine don't stress over some stupid nurse it will all work out.

Motherhood-7 out of 8 that is fantastic you will get a good number to test.

AFM- my turn next please i have waited patiently please let it be my turn.

[Motherhood here i come!]

Jaki - Any news of the BT results???? Am waiting anxiously to know.

Ferrals - I too hope its your turn next.

[Jaki80]

Starting injections tonight. Yeeeehaaaaa!!!!

Your next ferrals!!!!

Xx

[ferrals4]

Thanks girls i am so nervous no actually terrified that my levels will be no good.

Jaki- good luck with your injections hope you make lots of eggies

motherhood- i read a few of your posts in the other thread looks like everything is going perfectly for you.

AFM- as i said up top i am terrified that it wont happen for me i feel so left behind again i am also on another forum for PGD IVF and they are all cycling as well or are now pregnant and i am the last one yet to start i cant help but feel worried anyway i am happy for you ladies keep me informed and pray my AF turns up on time tomorrow.

[Jaki80]

AF vibes coming your way...

[Motherhood here i come!]

Here here Jaki

AF vibes your way Ferrals. You can have mine so that I wont get her :P

[Motherhood here i come!]

Only a quick one as not too happy.

Call from the scientist nice and early today with the following results;
- As we know, 7 fertilised normally
- 2 x 8 Cell Embies Grade 1
- 2 x 7 Cell Embies Grade 1
- 1 x 4 Cell Embie Grade 3
- 1 x 1 Cell Embie Grade 3
- 1 Embie that is degrading

So dont know that to think about all that. The thing is though, she had to add in that "not many embryos make it to day 5". That was the clincher for me. Way to make me happy NOT.

[Jaki80]

Motherhood it will be fine, out of that many fertilized some will have to make it to blast. Try not to worry too much.

AFM- had my first injection, all was good. Woke up this morning in a flooded house to my aunty screaming! So much for stress free Ivf. Having BT & US mon. Won't get results till tues morn.

X

[ferrals4]

Motherhood- 4 of them look like they are doing great so 4 out of 7 if they make it to blast is awesome.

Jaki-good to hear your 1st injection went well why is your house flooded? what happened?

AFM- just got back from acupuncture and i'm having AF pains now so pray they come to night and i can have BT tomorrow.

[Jaki80]

I was just thinking that too, 4 is awesome. I didn't even have that to start with last time!
Coffs is prone to flooding. Especially my aunts house. It all happened to quick in like 10 mins.
I'll be hopeing for you ferrals your levels are spot on.
X

[ferrals4]

Jaki-thank's and sorry about the flooding i was thinking burst water pipe or washing machine maybe but flood water from the weather is the worst.

AF still not here DH and i have had sex 3 times trying to bring it on but noooo luck why is it when your are all for it AF will turn up and ruin a romantic night and when we want it to come its' a no show.

[Motherhood here i come!]

Were now angry with IVF. Reason....... only yesterday, we found out and only by shear accident I might add (was calling the nurse about something else and she innocently said something assuming obviously that I knew) that they dont always test the embryos!!!!! I was like WTF!!!! What I was told was, If they dont like the look of the embryo because their looking a little shaky in that if they biopsy them they might inevatibly kill them doing so (Embryo isnt strong enough to withstand the biopsy and then transfer), they wont test for the Gene!!!! However the flip side of this is they still might be viable to return to my uterus and might still possibly make it resulting in a pregnancy. But this is where it gets interesting and we never ever knew that, we then have the choice to take the chance and implant one anyway untested!!!!

GRRR we have been under the impression the whole time that they are tested regardless. No one at any stage explained this to us. Having this information I rang the specialist to talk to him. So, the fertility specialist rang me today to kind of give me more info etc. He basically said that yes we need to wait and see tomorrow and if they dont like the look of them and their unstable so to speak, they wont test them however that doesnt mean we still cant transfer one back!!!!! He also said and I agree with him that if we didnt transfer just because they werent tested, it's kind of a wasted opportunity and or wasted embryos etc because we still have the kind of good only 50/50 chance that it would end up with the gene. If we were left with that option, that means at at 9 to 12wks pregnant, we need to go through pre natal screening to see if the baby has the gene, amnicentis type test. Hmmmm Not an easy decision as the specialist also agreed.

So, were not happy at all because were now in a situation where we need to make a decision NOW but not only that, DH is down the coast visiting his Brother in Bega and I had to explain all of this to him over the phone and we had to come to a decision. What makes us angry is that We totally understand that its not 100% guanteed and were not angry that they wouldn't test, were angry that we werent told this from the beginning. If we were told this, we may not have gone through with the IVF and tried our luck naturally instead, saving us a whopping $12,500.

After having a chat over the phone and weighing up the pros and cons, we agreed that should they tell us they wont test them but they will transfer, we will transfer!!! DH and I agreed in that we had already decided that should this go have been cancelled like the first one, which in the beginning it was looking that way, we would try naturally. That said, I also said to him that we are already committed to the $$$ but then I was like but if it wasnt tested and we put it back and the baby did have the gene, what a waste of $$$$. But then again, I said but there is still the chance that it wouldnt take even if it was tested and then $$$ and no success was just the same so its not a waste of money.

Hmmm not a happy day before final update!!!

[Motherhood here i come!]

Ferrals...... AF is she here????

Hope all is well Jaki!!

[ferrals4]

Motherhood- are you serious if thats the case we would be better off going naturally in saying that the scientist told us that untested embryos wont be transfered the way i will approach it will be test all that make it to day 5 if they don't survive testing then there is nothing to be transferred than we don't pay the bulk of the $$$$ why have untested embryos transfered and pay a fortune when you have a 50/50 chance the same as trying naturally i find that terrible we should have been informed about that from the beginning you have a lot to think about in such a short time just hope that your embryos are good enough to test i do understand what you are saying about having them transferred untested though you have come this far you may aswell finish the cycle.

AFM-no AF has not turned up i think maybe because my last AF was a bit longer and my estrogen was a bit high it will be a day or so late it should have been here today at the latest (my cycle is 28-29) today is day 29

[Kmn]

Isn't the idea as simple as "If we know the test will kill the embryo then we won't do the test" - which saves the test lab some time analysing DNA from dead embryos, and you potentially some money paying for them to be tested.
The testing requires a hole to be drilled with a laser in the side of the embryo, and a cell or more to be sucked out. Even for promising looking embryos not all survive the test. I think you have to trust your lab here - they would love nothing more than to be able to pop a bad-gene-free emby back in to you, and they will be doing there darndest to make that happen.