Starting solids? - Baby Led Solids Chatter #2

jessica: i know what you meen abuot the shudder like it the worst thing they ever tasted! DD had yoghurt for the first time today and would gag and shudder, and blowing it out with a raspberry....then be looking for more....we ate a whole bowl, each mouthfull followed by the same reaction! very strange!
Question...how do you 'baby led' yog and porridge and sloppy things? i filled the spoon and just held it infront of her and she lent in and ate it, sometime grabbing the spoon and guiding it in, but i tried to give her the spoon and im just not ready for my house to look like a jackson pollock painting!! any tips?

good question beckoes, I still spoon in his yoghurt. One time I put the bowl in front of him and while I spooned, he played in it. The mess was unbelievable!

Beck, not sure what you can do about the spoon.... Beth can kind of do it herself if I load the food on the spoon, she can get *most* of it in or near her mouth! although she does always end up with some in her eyelashes!
She has been refusing things she usually likes the last few days cause she has been pretty unwell. Wouldn't have a bar of toast the other day or yoghurt this morning, although she has had a good munch on cucumber, celery, peach and banana. But we'll just take it slow till she is feeling better.

We are still trying anything ane everything, combo of BLS and puree still without much luck om much.

He will suck on a chip for a while, and last night a small piece of cheese, but really everything he tryes he gags and pulls funny faces and dry reatches! Grr he has eaten so well at start then suddenly stopped.

Have tryed: apple (puree and bits), sweet potatoe, potatoe, pumpkin, pasta, cheese, chicken breast, farax, yougurt (vomits projectile hmm think was 2 early for his belly)

Feeb what a bummer that J is still not enjoying solids! You are doing great persisting with it.... surely he has to like something sometime! :hug:

Thanks hopefully!! Otherwise he may BF till school Lol

Is it ok to leave the skins on foods (those that you can eat the skin)? Like zucchini and cucumber and all those sorts?

Absoloutely eej - lots of nutrients in the skin of veg too usually - bonus! ;)

Hey, just a quick question. Ashlyn is loving food, but her want seems to be out doing her ability and things just ended in tears. She is perfectly happy with something in her hand or mouth but cries the second she drops it or it falls out. Is there anything I can do or should I just let her go until she gets the hang of it? Also is yogurt ok? She absolutely lunged at my spoon earlier and I wasn't sure if I should let her have it. Ta

captain - (bear with me here as i have NO solids experience as yet) Personally i would stick with it and just mayb help her pick it up again. Im sure she will get the hang of it. Someone suggested earlier that if you leave the skin on fruits and things, it helps them get a better grip.. so mayb try that? I dont see why she cant have yogurt. The way I see BLS, what ever u are having, she can have.. minus.. coffee.. chocolate.. lollies etc lol

HTH

As far as I know, yoghurt is fine. In fact, my LO absolutely adores yoghurt- and its pretty much the only thing he likes! There are baby yoghurts which I've been buying for him, but from what I hear, they really aren't that different to adult yoghurts....

I gave Ashton yogurt yesterday, just ended up all down the front of him, I don't think he actually swallowed much.

Ashton sometimes cracks it when he drops something. He is just so eager to eat what he's holding that when it slips he bursts into tears. I usually just pick it up and hand it back and it goes straight back in the mouth.

I went and saw the health nurse today. I mentioned he started solids and she asked "farex?" and I said no BLS and explained to her, she pulled out her stupid book and was saying how I should be giving him farex, f&v only blah blah. I just told her, 3rd time around I am not stupid and to google it haha (in a nice way ;)) She was interested then and said she would have a look later.

I have to stay away from yoghurts - Miss M is on soy formula - so no dairy for her!!!

We leave the skin on stuff here - and she just gums the fruit away from the skin - and leaves the skin behind.

Haven't tried anything new for a while - DS gave her one of his chicken chippies that he got for dinner tonight (as in, the meat chicken in tempura batter cooked in the oven as opposed to chicken flavoured potato chips) she ate that too.

And she seems to like milk arrowroot biscuits too. Ahh the joys of having a toddler who shares everything when mummy's back is turned. And once she has it - you can't get it off her.. she hangs on for grim death to the damn thing.

Arrowroots! How I rue the day I ever gave one to DS. He gets so excited about them he shakes and you're right, you can't take it off him. I try not to give them often, but he just LOOOOOVES them when I do.

But oh, the mess! Yesterday I gave him one and later in his bath I found arrowroot between his toes! The mind boggles.

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But oh, the mess! Yesterday I gave him one and later in his bath I found arrowroot between his toes! The mind boggles.

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pmsl!

oh i havent given him them yet i have had a packet here for weeks but was worried that they were not that good for him!

he can have 1 tomorrow

LOL amberj

Same here Feeb. He will love me tomorrow lol

I'm another one who's lurking... read back a few pages - loved the arrowroot between the toes tehehe.

Further to SamiH's question re allergies. We've got intolerances in our family - does the same thing apply as allergies?? Not before 12 months? Heaven forbid if so...!!! And I guess we'd just introduce one thing at a time... bit boring but still BLS I guess. Plus, he's already got eczema anyways... :rolleyes:... so I'm probably gonna be paranoidly careful.

I've just read this entire thread *phew* - took me about 40 minutes!

Our solids journey is slightly complicated by our bub having a cleft palate. He can't have chunks until after his cleft is repaired (on 2nd March) - and he has healed.

However, I'm starting my learning now as this is precisely what I want him to do - once he can. He's having purees now (yoghurt, apple, custardy-things, etc) but I can tell that they bore him. We once let him at a blackcurrant & apple jelly thing. Made a lovely mess - but he had an absolute ball! Can't wait to start proper finger-food.

We're hoping it will make us eat a little more healthily as we will let him share our plates (to some extent)...

Hope you don't mind me joining. I'm astounded by how many bubs are around my DS's age in here - and I haven't met some of you before!!

Yoghurt is fine, i give natural yoghurt with some apple puree (apple sauce made for roasts) or with some fruit in it or a tiny bit of jam.

For those that are giving biscuits, have you tried a Sao? MJ loves these and they have no sugar...

Belfie - the information that i have would say to slowly introdue... but with everything, do what you are comfortable with. DSS has ezcema and it is made worse with tomatoes, pinapple and other acidic foods, Mj has been given these, but in small amounts and only in a combination with foods that she has already tried and had no problems with... as there was no issues with them, she can have them freely now, although she tends to like them less!

As for crying and being frustrated, it will pass, its a learning thing, pretty soon they will be picking up really smalll things like grains of rise, none of MJ's non BLS friends can do that - they are learning their fine motor skills early and its juct difficult for them atm while all the synapses and nervous pathways are forming... just keep encouraging and yeah, try and leave skin on OR cut food so there is a bit of a handle.

Mel - will you try soy yoghurt?

I read that babies that have intolerances or allergies don't tend to like or eat the culprit food. They might try it the first time but will only play with it from then on, but not stick it in their mouths.

I know this was the case with my nephew with strawberries. He ate them in the beginning but then refused them after that. He came up in a red rash all over his body. Not so long ago his Dad was kiving him toast with strawbery jam on it for breakfast which he loved (I'm sure it was the sugar!!) but the rash appeared again..... my SIL had forgotten about that intolerance, and actually hadn't figured it was an intolerance at the time, but has now put two and two together. As soon as he was stopped eating the jam it all cleared up. So now she knows why he keeps refusing to eat strawberries.

Maybe these babies are smarter than we give them credit for sometimes huh?

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Mel - will you try soy yoghurt?

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SJ - I would assume that we will - DS is on soy yoghurt cos we think he can't handle dairy either......

Thanks for the tip about Sao's ;)

Well we tried our first foods today! Emily LOVED it. She had a finger of wholemeal english muffin with melted cheese on it. She did so well. Can't wait to try more!

That's great eej! Well done!
Thanks for the tip about hommus Mel (:doh: I'm such an idiot sometimes) we had hommus on toast for lunch today and it went down well - well, less down and more around but she seemed to like it. We had a few days of not eating so well due to illness but we are back on it now.
I have been so slack - she has only really been having one meal a day for like a month. I am going to try to get her having something 3 times a day - fruit and yoghurt for breakfast, something on toast for lunch and she can chew on some veges or a celery stick while we eat our dinner - she loves celery sticks!
welcome lurkers and :hello: to all

Pixie chick - we sorta have 3 meals a day here - and funnily enough, she is actually drinking MORE of her bottles than she was beforehand!!! Weird child of mine.

hi, ive managed to do three meals aday for the last week but ive not been that busy recently...but im running out of ideas for interesting things for her, might have to get cooking.

she had scrambled egg yolk with a little grated cheese for lunch amoungst other things, 1/4 baked apple, yog and pear,chicken/broccoli paste stuff thatt DH made on toast.
for dinner we had more of the same minus the egg. i still have heaps of purees that i made in the freezer so we had sweet potato and cream cheese on toast(bit wierd but it went down lol)! She ate nearly all! we were out at a friends house so i was helping her eat it abit more than normal as we couldnt have the same level of mess that we do at home! and i thought i hadnt bought enough! she is really getting into her food which is great to see and its fun to see her getting the hang of picking things up and enjoying them!

Has anyone offered Tofu to their babies?does anyone make recepies or do you just offer straight veg...DD isnt much of a plain veg fan, although i keep trying, she might just be getting used to it slowly!

Hi to all!!

We tried some more today. Banana, broccoli, red capsicum, pak choy and baby corn. Emily did really well, she was good with the corn and broccoli didn't like the capsicum at all. And was good with the banana. I'll put some pics up.
With yoghurt what brands are ppl giving? I bought some jalna today it seems to not have any sugar in it.

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I read that babies that have intolerances or allergies don't tend to like or eat the culprit food. They might try it the first time but will only play with it from then on, but not stick it in their mouths.

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Just back to the whole issue of allergies/intolerances... one reason I'm not sure whether we should be factoring it in or not is because both DH and I didn't develop the problems we have until we were in our 20's (possibly DH had earlier signs, but I definitely didn't).... so I don't know if giving him these items would set him up for issues in later life, or whether because we had adult onset, it really isn't something to worry about as a baby? I guess it's a partic issue on my side, as my malabsorption cuts out a lot of fruit (inc apples & pears) as well as wheat and some veggies... so it would have a significant impact on what we'd start him on. And DH can't do dairy... :rolleyes: but neither of us had any insight that these were our problem foods, i.e. we ate the various offenders (and got very sick) for a long time before we found out/diagnosed etc. So I'm not confident that my child would avoid them even if they were not agreeing with him.

I'm probably going to do some further research, but very interested to hear your thoughts, sorry hope this isn't too off track?

Sammiejane - I think you're definitely right with the slowly introduce. I figure if we start with one food a week that's fine... by 5 weeks he'll have a more interesting plate!

And apart from all my blather, this is great reading! Hello posters & lurkers :hello:

hiya all
just thought i would join this thread...
Jack has been having farex since about 4mths (every 2nd day) and now is having mashed potato/pumpkin and arrowroot biccies..he is ALWAYS wanting whatever we are eating (reaching/grabbing squealing for things and making chewing/licking motions watching us)
he gets VERY frustrated when he drops things he is eating but is happy again when given the food back :D

beckeos - we give actual meals here (as in recipes) and have been for several months now.
MJ isnt that keen on plain veggies anymore either - but will eat them if thats all that is there as she has a huge appitite...
Tonight she had a hamburger (homemade) and some pumpkin, carrot and broccoli... i made a small amount of gravy and poured that over the top.

Belfie, thats a tough one... if you speak to your GP, unless they have done any reading on this, their advice will be start on a rice cereal with a non dairy milk and will probably poo poo this method... do you have specialists that you see re your and your DH's conditions/intolerances?
You could start on 'safe' foods, we started on veggies here, so i would sat start on the veggies that you are OK with and give a variety of these.
When you are ready to introduce something, do it one thing at a time and depending on how it is taken (and comes out) try again the following day. try not to give to potential allergens in the one day as a delayed reaction may mean that you assume it is the wrong one kwim?
As for dairy, MJ has soy milk, we use Bonsoy (more expensive but does not have added sugar like most commercial brands) Not because she is allergic (or any of us) to dairy but she prefers it... she has 'normal' cheese and yoghut thou. Dont know if this is of any help to you - good luck with the introduction of foods :)

Ok, I have a question. How does your LO differentiate between food and toys? I mean, no matter what I give Peter, he will look at it, then touch it, then put it in his mouth- could be a toy, could be food, could be the cat's tail.

Then its like when he discovers its food and it has a taste, unless its yogurt or arrowroot, he pulls the "why are you trying to poison me, mum?" face and shudders and spits it out. I do try to limit food to when he's in his highchair, but then often he gets bored in his highchair so we give him a toy as well.....how is he supposed to know a bit of broccoli isn't a new toy? Does it even matter if he can't tell the difference?

I just worry maybe he doesn't understand its food and he's supposed to eat it.... :doh:

ARGH! NO HE WONT CHOKE ON IT! HE'S BEEN EATING BANANA FINE AND YES HE CAN HAPPILY SUCK ON THAT RICE CRACKER AND NO I WILL NOT BUY HIM FAREX OR THAT JUNK IN A JAR. WOULD YOU EAT IT? NO DIDN'T THINK SO!

ok sorry I had to get that out...

LOL missymoo!!!!
jack has just started eating banana..and i got the comment from my MIL...he'll choke!!!! ummmmm NOPE he won't was my reply!!!

oh apparently i am a bad parent for giving my son things he can choke on. Banana and toast are bad, broccoli is worse and OMG YOU GAVE HIM CARROT! Ahh yes I did ***** now get lost! All this while he was sitting there eating from his lunch box today, perfectly happy, not gagging once.

The only food he has choked on was the yogurt I was feeding him myself! That he spluttered and coughed over.

haha Missy Mel - I toook DD for her 6 month check up yesterday and they asked how she was going - I said good, good, she's on solids - they said, how is she going - and I said good.

I just don't offer up the information if they don't ask for it. And I'm too big and ugly for people to argue with me face to face ;)

lol

Jack has had toast... and sucked it to death...made a HUGE soggy mess...
loves his banana...we tried yoghurt today :D he loved it...
pumpkin/potato/carrot/zucchini for dinner :)

i sooo cant wait to start B on solids - she already now watches us eat and makes eating movements with her mouth - i think she is close to being ready - am i correct in saying that?
we gave her a rusk the other day cause anything and everything goes in her mouth these days and she is starting to teeth - she loved it - munched all the way thru it!!!! thank god i was sitting with her watching - gave me a bit of a fright to see the top of it missing!

HJ - there are a few signs that they are ready for solids - watching you might be one of them, but they might just be imitating you ya know? Does she still have the tounge pushing out thing going on? Can she sit up - supported?

yep she sits up - u can sit her up and she stays sitting up on her own for awhile also! has very good head and neck control - however she has slight tongue tie which is getting snipped next monday - which will help with the swallowing of food (i think).

i dont want to rush things tho - im happy to keep feeding her formula for longer - but if she is ready than she is ready right?
at the moment during the day she is feeding every 2.5hrs - which makes me think maybe the formula just isnt satisfying her - but than she is only drinking about 100-150mls at a time - so maybe she just likes more regular small feeds??????