maybe we should look into the US's anti discrimination laws.
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maybe we should look into the US's anti discrimination laws.
According to my DH, that is exactly why it was set up, by some US college blokes to perve on women I believe :rolleyes: Don't know how DH found that out, but that's what he told me. He won't use it, calls it Farcebook LOL
Some of the stuff that is allowed up there is positively sickening :( but unless people leave the site in droves, what motivation is there for them to change? The double standards of FB are appalling.
How do you find out if your page has been moderated??????
Disgusting! What is with FB?
I saw someone commented on a friend of mines post the other day and their profile pic was of Lara Bingle completely topless... she still has that pic up and FB have not done a thing to remove it. I guess breasts are not meant to be used for what they're made to do, they must be made for FB perves & skanks to put up as their profile pics :(
Here is the profile; Here
Mods, please remove this link if it's not allowed.
Here is the Facebook fan page!!! Checked by Kelly :)
Lets get Kelly of Belly Belly's Facebook Account Reactivated
:D
This is what they have to say about themselves in the bit where it says to describe themselves and is apparently their "mission".
This is what it says:
Giving people the power to share and make the world more open and connected.
What a load of rubbish. This can be found on the facebook wall.
Lisa - :o :o :o that link!!! OMG i can't believe they allow that yet have issues with these other photos of BF etc..... fark sake.... :o
Someone mentioned taking this to A current Affair or Today Tonight - not a bad idea!!! It could get somewhere?
Amanda - omg i can't believe they state that but don't follow through on that.... completely wrong and disgusting. :shakehead::shakehead::angry:
Why not start a Get Up campaign? I think it would be interesting to get them on TV and get their Aus spokesperson to state exactly what it is about bf that they find offensive and call them out on the double standard. Perhaps even get the ABA involved as well.
as an aside, if anyone wants to add me on FB I am on the support BellyBelly group and my profile pic is one of my twins having a feed ;)
I totally agree there is a double standard and it is outrageous that breastfeeding photos get removed / moderated.
However I do think that should never link to material you find offensive even if it is to point out the double standard, because all it does is give that material more hits (often pages will give you info on how many people have linked to them for example and then these stats can be used to sell advertising on that page). It may be that, that link to the sex quiz drew attention to Kelly's page which resulted in it getting moderated (which is why lots of other BF images still there) - it wouldn't surprise me given the scale of facebook if they use some algorithms which look for words like sex and breast to help them moderate, as they must have mountains of reports to go through.
Breastfeeding pictures should be allowed full stop, whether or not other images of boobs are allowed or not, in my mind they are completely unrelated things and sometimes I think drawing the parallel between breastfeeding and other graphic images even when it is to show the double standard - relates them in some peoples minds (and for example in a computer algorithm) and can be unhelpful.
Hope Kelly gets her page back soon.
:o thats pathetic! isn't that some kind of lie if they say they want the world to be more "open" and connected. surely thats not right. if they where "open" then bf would be ok! grrr stupid facebook! if they took down the photo of me bfing my DJ - i'd sue them for discrimination - if they are willing to allow - and support near pornographic ads YET they willnot allow a photo of a women feeding her baby(s) then thats discrimination. not to mention sexist- because if a women cannot show her CHEST not her nipple, yet a man CAN show his nipple thats not fair!
i agree on the todaytonight/ACA they'd have a field day - who knows it might end up like the whole Scientology saga they're pushing ATM...plus i'd love to see the face book peoples faces if they came face to face with a women bfing! ...maybe a whole lotta people who bf should rock up to Facebooks HQ and bf and ask if they find it obscene!
Hey girls the profile that lisa posted has now had their profile image removed
Who reported it? I know I did
Awesome! I reported it when I first saw it days ago :)
ETA - If you click on the person's photo's link however, the thumbnail is still the same pic as before.
Another one from here who got banned.
Serene Johnson.
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Yes, same reason as Kelly.
I have started an online petition:
Facebook Must Lift the Ban on Breastfeeding Imagery Petition
Enjoy!
Just sent this to Facebook Press:
Hello,
I am writing to inform you of my intent to take public the results of a petition hosted online at
Facebook Must Lift the Ban on Breastfeeding Imagery Petition
This petition deals directly with the violation of international anti-discrimination laws by Facebook. Recently, Facebook has experienced negative press with in Australia, and I invite you to rectify this situation before I am forced to take this public. As you can see, with only a very limited number of people KNOWING about this petition, the support received has been overwhelming.
Support for this cause (not just myself, but others too) can also be seen at:
Serene Dawn Johnson got UNFAIRLY BANNED and WE WANT HER BACK!!! | Facebook
Censorship at its WORST | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=20531316728&topic=18666>
Squishy Bum Mum: Bugger having a dream.....I have a PLAN!!...Part 2!
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ou-done-2.html
and
Hey Facebook, breastfeeding is not obscene! (Official petition to Facebook) | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2517126532&ref=ts>
I encourage you to please read in full the articles, discussions and links on both these pages before you make your decision.
I will be providing this story in print to Take 5 magazine, Thats Life magazine, the Newcastle Herald, the Port Stephens Examiner, the Sydney Morning Herald, the Australian and And the Sun Herald. I will be contacting the Today Show, Today Tonight, A Current Affair and TTN for face-to-face interviews, and I will be providing YouTube with a video and written statement. Further to all this, Several international breastfeeding support sites have shown their support for myself and other women who have had their accounts disabled or images removed, and are also making statements on their blog.
The only people who find Breastfeeding offensive are the ones that get upset because they arent getting to play with them.
You are welcome to telephone me to resolve this situation, I receive over 5000 emails per day now supporting my fight against this ban. My number is +61 XXX XXX XXX. Please call between the hours of 9am and 8am Australian Easter Daylight savings time.
I will send this email daily until the situation is resolved.
Sincerely, Serene Johnson
http://www.facebook.com/serene.d.johnson
Guess who wrote to the Californian State Governor!!!
Hello sir,
I am writing this from Newcastle, Australia. I am sure you are wondering why. Well, it is because I use Facebook. I love Facebook. Or well, I did. I had a lot of friends on Facebook. But on March 11 of this year, my account was disabled. I'm sure you are now wondering why I am writing to YOU about this, especially from Australia. Well sir, I am writing to you because Facebook states in its terms and conditions that it operates under Californian Law. I am sure you know that breastfeeding is protected in all public places and places of business within the state of California, that it is not considered public indecency, lewdness, or obscenity, or by proxy pornography, offensive or nudity. When I was reading this law, I didn't see anything excluding or precluding "virtual" public businesses, forums or social utilities from within California. Further more, the Facebook Headquarters is located in Palo Alto, California. Therefore, it is within this jurisdiction.
I am now going to tell you my story.
On March 9, to celebrate International Womens Week, myself and several hundred women changed our profile images to images portraying breastfeeding. None of these images showed nipple. We were very careful of that matter. However, several of us had our accounts disabled. This constitutes outright gender discrimination, and is a violation of Californian Laws created to support and protect breastfeeding. Californian Law, which Facebook professes to abide by.
Further to this, the actions taken by Facebook serve to further demoralise and dishearten women worldwide regarding breastfeeding, and recreate an environment where breasts are only an object of sexuality, an environment which has taken many MANY years to overcome. Allowing this censorship of a natural and LEGAL public act is unconscionable, and I urge you to condemn it in the utmost. The following links will take you to several support groups, petitions and even a FORMAL petition to Facebook:
Facebook Must Lift the Ban on Breastfeeding Imagery Petition
Serene Dawn Johnson got UNFAIRLY BANNED and WE WANT HER BACK!!! | Facebook
Censorship at its WORST | Facebook
Squishy Bum Mum: Bugger having a dream.....I have a PLAN!!...Part 2!
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ou-done-2.html
and
Hey Facebook, breastfeeding is not obscene! (Official petition to Facebook) | Facebook
You are most welcome to contact me directly, however I respectfully ask that you are mindful of the time difference, as I am in Australia. Any time between 9am and 10pm Australian Eastern time is most acceptable. My contact telephone number is +61 4xx xxx xxx. Please respond with urgency.
Sincere regards,
Serene Johnson
Facebook URL: http://www.facebook.com/serene.d.johnson (or at least it was...)
:ROFL: That is awesome, Serene. I can't wait to see whether Arhnuld replies.
I hope so too. They just banned my sons account too for putting that up.
Hi everyone, just stumbled upon this thread and was wondering if anything further had happened?
I requested Kelly as a friend but now Im thinking I added the wronge account?
Kell has 2 accounts Kass, BellyBelly Kelly and KellyBelly Kelly.
Oh so which one would I add?
KellyBelly Kelly is a backup account. I have both ;)