Death twice as likely by caesarean

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Good for you Astrid for making a fantastic and wonderful decission for yourself and your baby. I hope your both your sakes that you get exactly the birth you deserve and crave. Im sure there are many c/s mum's out there that are cheering you on.
Have you got a doula for this birth so you get what you want and can chat to the ob..as I know Kelly is a wonderful Doula (have heard many wonderful things) and she acts for the mum to be...so when ob's run on auto pilot and when you cant 'think' due to being in the pains of labour, the doula can be your voice
Now have to ask also - as you are not aloud to be induced...whats your birth plan then if you do not go into natural labour?

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No doula, but a student midwife, there are no doulas down here. There is a private midwife I can call, so I might see what she offers. The ob clinic is very aware of my wishes, all of them have been told what I went through last time and what I want this time. Initially I was feeling very overlooked, but a quick phone call to complain got all that sorted, admittedly with tears, but that couldn't be helped. It is written on the top of my file and highlighted "All intervention is to be discussed"

No induction allowed, but I have pushed them out from want to book a c-section at 41 weeks, to lets wait and see how things are at 41 weeks. The wont allow me to go past 42 and I am ok with that. They understand I want the chance to get things going naturally (acupuncture etc).

Thanks Trish! I don't get scared, but sometimes I read so much I get overwhelmed and doubt myself, but then I think of all the people I know who have vbac'd ;) (Is that a real word?) like your gorgeous self and that gives me motivation! I also think of my sister, who 14 years ago to the day I am due with this bubby, gave birth (VBAC) to my gorgeous neice, after 4 hours of labour and the question of vbac wasn't even discussed. She finds it fascinating all this debate and research I am doing because when she went in her Ob just said, lets see what happens and that was that. Luck of the draw I guess that she had a great ob but it also gives me great hope to see what happens!

Astrid, I think Barb has been a birth support person before - have you spoken to her about it?

Matie - if you live near the shepparton area Tanya from here is becoming a doula, PM her if your close. She is a fab chickie

Hey now please can someone lighten me...these c/s'ing obs....are most of them males????

No worries Tanstar, not taking your comments in an argumentative way at all. It's interesting to read different perspectives actually. ;)
Just have to re-itterate what I said a couple of post ago......

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I don't advocate "unnecessary" c-sections, but if mum and bub's are at risk and it means going the c-section route then it should be done, therefore necessary to save the lives of the mother and child.

It certainly doesn't make any sense to have an "unnecessary" c-section ?

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To be honest, once I fall pregnant, my dream birth would be, in the water, no drugs, completely free and lovely. BUT , if that isn't the case then I am informed enough to know that IF I have to go down the c-section route, I will do so to save the life of my child.
Your birth obviously didn't go the way you expected and perhaps you would have had the drug-free, no tear, minimal pain, completely natural birth that you wanted, but maybe you wouldn't if the doctors hadn't given you a c-section ? I guess you'll never know. What is a definite, what is for sure, is that you and your child is (and correct me if I'm wrong) happy and healthy.
Good luck for the next one, and in the end, it will happen the way it's supposed to happen......:)

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It doesn't always have to be so cut and dry.

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No pun intended, yeah ??? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Astrid, I think Barb has been a birth support person before - have you spoken to her about it?

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Yes I have. It is tempting, but it is a bit delicate due to her working at the hospital and she will be looking after DD for me. She is the one advising me to call the private midwife but as everyone knows it is a delicate game getting hubbies to understand the need for additional support. Maybe I should leave him at home to babysit and take Barb to the hospital with me instead?

Thanks PB! You are right, I won't ever know but I do know that in hindsight there are things I agreed to that I shouldn't have, like being induced before I was ready etc.... I do have a happy and healthy beautiful girl and for that I am eternally thankful. With this bub, if I have a c/s I will be able to say that I did everything possible to avoid it but if it comes to that then so be it, I won't look back in regret like I do now with my 1st birth.
OT again sorry guys!

I find it quite interesting to read others peoples views about their c-sections.it makes me very happy that with Julia's birth my OB (female)and the midwifes followed my birthplan to my every wish, unfortunately as I said before my baby was stuck and at risk so ended up in c-section. She is happy for me to have a VBAC all for it.

Trish you didnt upset me mate :)

Tan, you can make it a word hun. And your very right too, years ago there wasn't all the BS that is accompanied to a VBAC, hell, the term VBAC probably wasn't even used back then.

PB, I hope that you too, when you do have a baby get your "dream birth". I had that birth you are talking about and I did it at home as a VBAC, twice. And it was just as perfect as you can imagine :D
No, no pun at all. ;)

Maz, the majority of them are. But I also think that's because it is a male dominated profession too.

That's great Belle :hug:

No apologies necessary Tanstar, you are certainly equipping yourself with knowledge, and now experience, to direct the kind of birth you want.

And thanks Trish, I hope I have my dream birth too...........

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