Now my concern/question is to any out there that can please try help me is, why would i, after hearing all there nasty first experience stories, put myself through the normal option, (ob, lying on back hoping for the best) just to see how i go and put my body under the faith of the hospital system, who sound as though they can intervien uneccesarily, when i can take the advice of alot of women on these forums and use a family birthing centre, or waterbirth or some alterantive techniques from day one to avoid such a traumatic experience that alot of women tend to experience first time round.