My 4.5 month old still only takes one side.
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My 4.5 month old still only takes one side.
My girl is almost 4 months and she only occasionally takes two sides. :)
DD2 is five mths and still just wants one side. DD1 was having two sides by this age, but I figure if I had twins they'd be having one side each feed. Supply and demand works on each breast. ;)
DD2 has always been such an efficient feeder that if she's wanting more I'm sure she just demands to be fed more often.
Ladies I'm thinking about BF friendly vitamins. I currently take Elevit plus a separate fish oil tablet, and vitamin D as I'm deficient. Is there a better alternative to Elevit? Just curious as to what's out there.
Just take stuff if you're deficient Ladylove. :)
Ta MadB.
On another note I had my first ever squirting experience! My boob was so full from overnight, DD had a reasonable feed but I still felt full so after 10-15 minutes I popped her back on but she wouldn't have a bar of it, pulled off and I glanced down and it was like a burst pipe.
Is it possible for DD to be done feeding in 5 minutes or less and still only want to feed no less than 3 hourly? This is her latest thing as you know... She's had three really wet MCN's since 6:30am, and it's 1:45pm here. In her fourth nappy now...
im no expert but it sounds as though she's just become very efficient. if her output hasn't changed, she's content & you're demand feeding then it all sou.ds good.
saw my mchn yesterday. dd is now 6.17kg - the nurse said we didnt really need to weigh or measure her because she's "the picture of health" she alao mentioned that's she's obviously in a good pasture :lol: she also asked how often she's feeding & i said i had no idea! she replied that's what she likes to hear from a bfing mum with a healthy baby :) i love having a good mchn - it's a great resource/sounding board if they're the right person.
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I'm demand feeding to a point - I try her every three hours if she has not demanded earlier and sometimes when I think she has demanded earlier she just cries when I put her on the boob. Then most of the time if I take her off again after a couple of unsuccessful attempts she seems content. Sometimes she is grizzly after but she won't drink. I don't *think* it is a milk supply issue.
Lol at the suqirting Ladylove. Sounds like you have an effecient feeder there
Sloane sounds like your DD is growing beautifully
I took DD3 to MCHN today and she is growing well, I wasn't concernerd about her weight as the little piggy has been feeding well and growing out of her clothes! All good and her HC was fine which is hwat I wanted to get checked
BF is still going well, I get a little sore still in the evening after her fussy period and cluster feeding from 5pm to about 9pm but then she sleeps until 6ish so I shouldnt complain.
had a breastfeeding brain fart this week as I ordered two lovely knit dresses online, they came look good, fit but I cant breastfeed in them without pulling the dress up to above my boobs :doh: Im all for feeding as needed and not needing to be discrete but that might be taking it a bit too far :lol: oh well they'll have to wait for next winter
Yes I have a couple of gorgeous new dresses that I cannot wear because of BF either ... but they were too nice to resist!
Ladylove, my DD2 never takes more than 5 mins. So she is probably just a fast feeder now. Less time on the couch and more time squirting! Lol
Yes and to be honest once she had mastered feeding she only ever took 8-10 minutes anyway. She's a bit fussy today generally anyway so I was feeling a little distrustful of my boobies.
Does anyone else with older bubs find they have days where they're just not as interested in feeding?
Usually DS will feed quite frequently throughout the day, in addition to his solid meals which are a bit hit and miss about how much gets eaten. But every so often he'll have a day or so where he's just really not that interested, and can go several hours without a bf. Even if offered - he plays around, wriggles to get down and generally puts up a fuss rather than latching on. I'm finding it happens more often when he's just starting on a new skill, but sometimes I wonder whether I should maybe offer a bit more frequently even if he's not showing much interest?
Hey mamas!
Joining in to the thread! I BF with DS1 and he self weaned around 8months. I was back at work by that stage and travelling so I'm sure that had something to do with it. Would like to get to a year BFing with DS2 if I can!
DS2 is now 4 days old and milk is well and truly in now. He seems to be feeding every 2 hours over the night which is killing me at the moment and having longer stretches of sleep through out the day. Any suggestions On trying to stretch the time out between feeds during the night? I'm sure he'll sort his day/night cycles out soon.
Looking forward to getting to know you all!
xox
Hi Blackrose - congrats on your new little boy :)
I never found anything to stretch out night feeds at that stage, thankfully it's usually pretty short and just till they flip their days/nights around the right way.
I bf in public for the first time today =D
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Woohoo Teirae!
Congrats BR on your brand new boy. At this age there is not much to do but go with his cues, as long as he seems to be doing well, weeing/pooing enough and gaining weight over time.
The best thing is to make sure you have enough support so you can take naps when you need to and din't need to be managing everything during the day. How is your IRL support? Your baby will need to feed frequently for a while, but as you know already, it doesn't last forever.
Rest up as much as you can!
congrats BR - you can try waking to feed more frequently during the day, if you want. Most likely he'll just do as he pleases :)
I thought I might join this discussion thread. My ds is 1yr old and still bf well. Against all the negativity of other mothers and family. I plan to bf until he weans himself, whenever that might be.
A little background info. We had a few issues with bf early on to the point I considered stopping because of the pain. But I saw a lactation consultant, and here we are still happily bf.
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Black Rose congratulations on your tiny treasure.
Teirae - yay! I cannot BF in public at the moment as DD is way too distractable.
Bskilner, a good LC is an absolute saviour I think. Not just for the technical knowledge but the positivity and support.
*Warning, this is a 'me' post*
We are having massive issue with breast refusal. DS is tube fed overnight, but should be BF through the day. He wont. There's nothing I haven't tried. I have spoken to LC's, ABA and LA leche league counsellors. It's doing my head in. He is ready for solids but I don't want to start while we have this issue. I am trying to find the balance between making sure he gets enough and stays hydrated and letting him be hungry/thirsty enough to want the breast. It's become such a battle and I'm tired. I am setting daily goals. Today he took 2 small feeds (only about 7 mins if that), but I am still expressing. Tomorrow, well, I hope I can get through tomorrow too. I am going to an ABA meeting Tuesday, so I that's my next goal. To get to Tuesday. This has been going on now on and off for 2 months. I am trying to pinpoint what it is and I can't.. I just want it fixed. He is such an easy going happy baby except for when I offer him boob. He's not in pain, he doesn't have reflux. TBH I am not looking for advice, just support. Tell me this will get better. Tell me that we can still have a good breastfeeding relationship. He is going to be my only baby, I'm not ready to give up yet. But god, it's hard. I hate expressing. I hate it when he screams just because my nipple has touched his mouth. I hate that he's happy sucking the dummy or his hands, but wont take boob. I hate that when he does attach I am terrified to move in case I interrupt it. I hate that I'm not enjoying it, because I am timing the feed to try and figure out if he's getting enough.. *Sigh.. I think that's enough complaining.. I have gotten through today. I can get through tomorrow..
Don't worry too much about the length of the feed - my ds feeds in 5 min most of the time. :hug: hoping it gets better soon
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7 minutes is great!!
I feel for you though. I'm still getting either flat out refusal or suck, pull off, cry, suck, pull off cry. It's really trying isn't it. :(
:hug: i hope it improves for you soon. i found feeds alot more relaxing with my ds when he got to around 12ish months & he was just feeding before a nap - he was sleepy & just wanted a feed to help him drift off. so i guess once it was less about food & more about comfort, itms? but every bfing journey is different of course!
hang in there, i hope the aba meeting is a help :hug:
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You can get through this BAL! It won't last forever. The ABA group will be a great place to start. You and J have come through much harder battles than breast refusal and beaten them.
How is his growth coming along? I know it's not a comparison, but DD2, who is about the same age corrected is really only feeding once or twice between 6pm and 6am. If she was tube fed overnight that would really cut down her day time feeding too! Maybe J is getting a lot of what he needs atm through the tube? What is the plan with tube feeds going forward?
BAL, you are doing such an awesome job feeding your little boy. Not sure if you are doing oral tube feeding or through his tummy. Some people find that baby won't feed during the day, but will when baby is sleepy.
Breast refusal doesn't usually go forever, and baby will come back to the breast. If he likes the bath or shower, spend some time relaxing and enjoying each other. I hope you get some help on Tuesday.
Jennifer13 - We are hoping that once he starts solids we can cut tube feeding a bit. I am going to do a combo of BLW and puree, but I have been reluctant to start him while all this refusal has been happening. I feed him probiotic powder mixed with EBM on a spoon. He sees the spoon coming and he gets excited. He watches me eat and reaches out. He's sooo ready!
Thanks to everyone so much for the support. We are still going and things are a bit better. He fed yesterday and has fed today.. Yay! I went to an ABA meeting today. It was good. It was only a small group so even though the topic was BF in the Early Days, we still had time to discuss other stuff. Like breast refusal lol! I practically dominated the group with my questions etc.. They were all fantastic and very encouraging. There was a woman there who exclusively expressed and bottle fed for 10 weeks then finally her baby latched and they have been going well since and he's 11 months now! That gave me hope. She was told that she couldn't BF but persisted and it paid off.
That's what I want.. Many people are giving me permission to give up (If that makes sense). They think they are being supportive, but I need support and encouragement to keep going! I WANT to breastfeed. If I wanted to bottle feed I would be. Anyway, I feel really supported by the ABA, and DS's still gaining weight so I have relaxed a bit for now! Thank Goodness. It's awful feeling the way I was.. I guess I have the fear that he'll never come back to the breast..
ETA: I'm also taking him to another osteo today. He does craniosacral therapy which I've heard people swear by when it comes to bubs.. Fingers crossed!
you WILL do it BAL. i've no doubt whatsoever.
I have to get a mole cut off one of my breasts. it is couple inches away from the nipple. has anyone else had to do this while breastfeeding? Just wondering how much pain i am in for, and if it would be affected by feeding.
Hi everyone, I have a question that I haven't had to worry about before lol. Phoebe is nearly 14 months old and still only wants to breastfeed. She will eat weetbix but not anything else. I'm starting to wonder if I should cut back on the b/f's and try introducing more solid food or should I just follow her lead and keep b/fing until she seems ready to eat? I haven't had any of the other kids b/f for this long so this is something new for me :)
Hope it goes ok HotI
KimB - Do you have any concerns regarding her growth or development? Some kids do take longer to eat. Some have good reason to - like allergies for instance. And sometimes there are other health/development considerations. Might be an idea to talk to your nurse or gp if you're worried (they will very likely tell you she needs to eat, but at least they can check her over in the process)
Query - those of you who've had bubs go more than 1 day between poops, did bub have lots of wind and trouble getting it out? Ds2 (9wks) seems to have a lot of wind and usually needs help getting rid of it via his bum at least 3 times a day if not more. It's got to the stage of me bicycling legs & folding ds2 in half almost each nappy change just to make sure it's all out. He fidgets when trying to feed if it's not out the lower end. He doesn't seem to be vocally upset just very wiggly and grunts a lot overnight (most noticeably but does also do this during the day) while trying to get the wind out. He has also visibly had wind trapped and we've been seeing a Chiro to help. Ds1 pooped daily if not more often so the pooping less often is new to me.
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Bit of a me post but after a few weeks of thinking DD1 has been weaning on and off, she is now up to a week without a feed... feeling conflicted! I was so ready to stop, since falling pregnant it had been difficult but especially after DD2 was born, feeding DD1 was rough because the strength of her mouth just felt uncomfortable compared to the newborn but I kept at it and now she has decided, at a similar time to toilet training, that she is ready to move on from breastfeeding (we had been talking about her being a big girl in relation to using a toilet and I think she has sort of taken it a step further). I'm so terrified now that she is going to get sick or constipated or something, breastfeeding has always been a bit of a security blanket for me. There are positives, she is going to bed a little later now (from 5:30-6:30pm to 6:30pm-7:30pm) which suits us a bit more and DP has been able to do some of the bedtime settling which is pretty special for them. We haven't had any issues with settling at least even though she was feeding to sleep 9 times out of 10. So my journey with DD1 has wrapped up, sadly I can't even remember our last feed exactly because it has been on and off for so long but there are many special memories, it is such a special time... 3yrs 3mo, not a bad effort right?
Guess it is time to change my ticker. DD2 is feeding reasonably well, she isn't as keen as DD1 was but no real problems so far, I don't think she will go as long as DD1 did but hoping to get to 18mo if not 2yrs. She had her first taste of solids a few weeks back courtesy of her big sister but we have started offering vegie sticks to chew on officially the last couple of days as well as some chicken, she seems super keen which is a weird experience for me given DD1 barely ate before 12mo and even then I would say only really took off after 2 haha. Here she is munching away! Bit earlier than we intended but feeling okay with it now.
I can't believe the sense of loss I feel right now, I never thought I would be so into breastfeeding haha. It wasn't always enjoyable but it always felt worthwhile.
leckert dd3 is only pooping every 4-5 days and by the 4th day she has a lot of wind pain for about 12 hoursand then we get a monster poo. Ive found a warm bath helps as does putting her in the swing. Not sure why the swing works, maybe her position??
Hoti- good luck, hope you arent too uncomfertable after the mole removal
Jellyfish, what an awesome effort!
BAL you are doing such a great job! Glad that things have improved. My favourite bf advert was one in SA and it showed a claender of bf mums and the statment was every month is a bonus, I think you've got the right attitude, take it day by day :) I hope things keep going in the direction they are now
Not too much happening here, just getting cute feeding smiles now which I love
Thanks MadB. I think I will go see our MCN tomorrow. Just to make sure ;)
Congrats on such a successful feeding relationship Jellyfish. And hugs for moving on.
We seem to be going every 2nd-3rd day at the moment - often while in capsule or soon after being in it :lol: warm bath not so much yet but ds1 usually insists on ds2 bathing with him (often the only way to get him in the bath :wall: ) so I'm not holding ds2 in bath for long enough probably to get the effect (as well as bath is probably a bit cool to help ds1's eczema rather than ds2's pooping.
But thanks for the reassurance that it's normal. Wasn't sure if I should get concerned and if I did need to be concerned how long before I start chasing someone up about it but if wind issues are normal for a while i won't worry too much. (have been seeing a Chiro for it and seems to be helping as ds has clearly had stuck wind in a couple of places when we've seem her.)
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Hotl I hope it's not a serious mole. In terms of depth and breadth of the cut and pain or proximity to your nipple I think it depends on the type of mole, ie how deep or wide the dr needs to go to remove enough offending skin.
Jelly, 3 years is fantastic! Before I had DD I thought BF her to 6 months was my aim, now I have her and she's 4 months at least 12 months is my aim, hopefully more. I get your sadness- I'm already feeling sad at the prospect of introducing solids and she's not even there yet!