oh nickers! *hugs* again. Matey its so hard. I found that co-sleeping helped too, because Jovie would feed overnight heaps better than during the day. I tried the bath thing & couldn't do it LMAO... too slippery & hard. I found that skin to skin helped overnight with a huge pad under us. Jovie used to pull off and scream everytime she saw the breast and milk would go everywhere... so frustrating.