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Yeah it is different to Sureslim.
Dr Cohen is the original diet, which has re-feeding and maintenance where as SS was developed by other Dr's who worked closely with Dr Cohen but do not have the formula he uses for the blood analysis (which is for your refeed) nor do they have refeed or maintenance.
SS has a similar diet, but it is my understanding that they also use seeds on their plans.
I've done SS that's all, there is a maintenance plan and yes, lots of seeds too.
I just remember feeling very hungry but the weight loss was great.
SG
I was hungry for the first few days, after that I was fine. I do get hungry around TTOTM, but I am finding little ways to overcome that now which has helped a lot.
I did this too before I got married - lost 15kgs in about 10 weeks. I then went on my honeymoon where we had the most incredible food you could possibly imagine and then had back to back pregnancies - all before I got to my goal weight and did the refeeding - so you can guess where that 15kgs is now!!
Jodi - I was going to give it another go but Mum talked me out of it. My particular diet, and I'm guessing most of them, leave you quite low on energy (you are specifically told not to exercise while on the diet) and given my PND and dealing with the girls Mum convinced me that for now at least it was a bad move. It is also pretty time consuming in that everything has to be weighed exactly - not like SS where you can just grab a shake.
If you're interested, I'm more than happy to email you my Cohens diet and the "rules" so you can see what sort of things you'd be up against before you commit to a large sum of money.
I will give it a go again in the future, but for now I think it would do me more harm than good - better if I can just find some will power and eat better, get regular exercise, get some sleep!
Sorry to be a downer, but Jody, if you do get Lulu's diet plan... it is best that you don't follow it. You could do yourself some serious damage (kidneys, liver etc) and get very ill from following a plan that is not made for you.:
It is fine to obviously follow the rules, but I would not be doing the weighing as such on a plan that wasn't mine. In the end, if you don't finish the refeed, you will not have your body adjusted to help keep the weight off.
My mum is doing an adjusted version of my plan, but she continues to have milk in her coffee and she doesn't weigh anything. She will also do an adjusted version of my refeed when I finish.
On a lighter note, I am now 8w3d into my plan and I have lost 20.1kgs! I am over the moon about these results :)
I wasn't suggesting Jodi follow my diet - as part of the rules that I'll be sending her it very clearly states not to do anyone's diet but your own. More for information as to what's involved. Its nothing like SS or any other diet that I've ever seen in terms of how incredibly strict it is with what foods you can and can't have, what foods you can have together, amounts etc. Hey, if I could get away with sharing my diet around then I'd charge slightly less than what Cohens charge and pay for a personal trainer and a nanny!!! Its just that Jodi has bubs not much different in age from mine and I really feel I've made the right decision NOT to go back on the Cohens at the moment. Just want her to have a good look before she commits a lot of money.
Your weight loss is brilliant Lisa. It really is a great diet.
Hi girls,
I have started Cohens twice. You definitely need to hang in there until you do the refeed - both times I lost weight then gained it back plus more. I have done Jenny Craig (and made myself very sick through the artificial sweeteners, which my body can't tolerate), Weight watchers (where I lost 2kg but dropped from a 14/16 to a size 8/10) and was accused of not following the plan (which I did - but I was also going to the gym and building muscle mass, so hence not a great amout of weight lost).
The food was quite limited on Cohens, and as the girls have mentioned you do weigh everything!! I would recommend that you change your eating patterns prior to paying the money to go on Cohens - stop sugars, decrease caffiene, eat more fruit and vegies, smaller portions of meat etc.
The other option you may want to consider, in the meanwhile is calorieking which has a free monitoring service of your diet. You log on, put in what you have eaten and drunk during the day, and it works out your calorie intake and how much exercise you have done during the day. It is a start and something positive you can do in the meanwhile before starting Cohens - plus it might help you before fork out the money for Cohens, to gradually change your eating habits.
Like the girls have said before - if you are going to do Cohens you want to stay on it all the way through to the end. I highly recommend that you don't stop or start like I did.
HTH
Being on a pension seems like a lot of money to pay out, have seen and heard good results but would like an idea of rules and things you have to eat and times etc before paying out this large sum, both hubby and myself would do it so there fore would be a lot larger outlay...thank you heaps and best of luck to all who are on it already...:
hugz andrianmichael
Hey guys, I though I might just comment on the program seeing as though I started it 2 weeks ago to the day.
I have lost a massive 42 cms in body fat and a massive 6 kgms in only 2 weeks.
Dr Cohen originated the program for fertility reasons.
The food you are allowed is very plain (I eat plain anyways) but is very filling.
I plan on loosing 45kms by July and starting our IUI treatment again.
If anyone would like anyother info please let me know :)
Gizzmo! You're going fantastically honey!! Well done to you :)
I am a living testament to this... Before starting Cohens in Oct, I wasn't getting AF... 12 weeks after starting I found out that I am pregnant with this baby. I am now 7 weeks pregnant.:
Honestly, I miss the simplicity of the food, I miss the routine of eating main meals every 5 hours and I definitely miss the thrill of watching the numbers get lower by the day. I am definitely starting again once this bub has finished breastfeeding.
wow that is fantastic Lisa, good on ya...would like to try this one but finds are holding us back at the moment, being that the two of us DH and myself would like to do it was trying to get a rough idea what is involved in the diet then hopefully when monies are saved woohoo..congrats one more..how is your mum doing with it hon????is it working for her???have a wonderful day..andria ..:
PS how do you PM here if you can at all???hugz
Congrats Gizzmo! :dance:
Andria, the food, from my fuzzy memory, is tuned into your body requirements (through blood tests). A meal might be something like 40g of feta cheese and xgrams of vegetables (which could be carrot, celery et al). I think you are allowed a couple of crackers a day - so maybe two rivitas a day and a couple of pieces of fruit (which are limited to certain types of fruit). I found the first few days hard with food cravings, and just missing having food in my mouth IFYKWIM - I'm a comfort eater.
You do need to have a good set of digital scales to weigh things, but like the girls have said the weight falls off you, and I highly recommend that you need to committ 100% to the program for the duration of the plan and also go through the refeeding plan. As soon as you stop the program, you stack the weight back on - so its definitely a life change program more than just a diet program.
Depending on how your diet is at the moment, you may want to consider doing something free such as calorie king to get yourself into the swing of healthy eating, then when you save the $$, head for a plan.
Andria - Perhaps you could look at one of you getting the plan, and the other following along? I know this has worked for a lot of people, my Mum included. My mum is going really well, she is actually staying here with me for a few days and she has stuck to her guns, even though I am eating off plan.
Tarkine described it very well. You get a certain amount of protein plus a certain amount of vegetables to eat as main meals 3 times a day, with 5 hours between those meals. Not all vegetables, proteins and fruits are included in the plans however as everything varies. You will find the proteins are lean proteins (lean meats, low fat cheeses, low fat yogurt etc) and the vegies are predominately green & white.
I lost 24.1kgs in 12 weeks and I truly believe it was because of the diet that I conceived this little one, as I mentioned, I wasn't getting AF before starting. I am more than willing to find the extra $750 for the next time I start... I am thinking about saving it out of the baby bonus... it will be a bonus for me & bub if I lose my excess weight :)
I do know that Cohen's used to offer a payment plan... perhaps you should google them and give your closest clinic a call and see what they offer in regards to paying off a plan.
will certainly do that think our closest one to Newcastle is Sydney, and so pleased it helped you not only lose the weight you desired and for helping you conceive your precious lil one..huge hugz andria
I'm in Newcastle too Andria and yep, Sydney is the closest... although that doesn't really matter as you will do it 'by correspondence' so to speak... you will do your measurements, weigh ins etc at home by yourself, and you will email or phone if or when you have any issues and to let them know your weight at each blood test.
Natasha in Sydney is fantastic! She is such an inspiration.
cool Lisa, we are in Medowie, and do you know if the Sydney office offers the payment plans???thanks once again for all you wonderful girls help n advice:-)hugz
My cousin did this diet and lost 40kg.. it teaches you how to eat very very minimal. and doesnt encourage exercise..
Anyways she stopped doing it.. and put on 78kg...
I wouldnt touch this diet.. eat healthy and exercise.. much more important!!
how are you all finding Cohen's now?
DH is thinking about starting the program he has 80 odd kg's to lose, sounds like your all doing fantastically!!
ll80 - I had to stop my diet because I am pregnant... I am definitely going to be paying another $750 when I finish breastfeeding this baby to get a whole new plan again.
Someone I made friends with over the cohens forums has lost a fantastic amount of weight, so inspirational! I can't wait to get back to being a loser again (lol) but I am also more than happy baking a gorgeous little baby.