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    Hello,



    I am an exclusive expresser and have been now for 4 months due to attachment issues. Its a tough road but I feel so rewarded that I can give my baby soley breastmilk. I'd love to hear from other ladies in the same situation especially to find out how long pl have kept it up for. I do know of a lady through ABA who did it for 18 months and is still going!

    I thought if you answered the following questions it would be a good start.

    How long have you been expressing? Me 4 months (EDIT 15/3 have now reached 6 months- Edit again - finished up at 10 months)

    How long do you plan to do it for/ or have done it for? Christmas was my aim so now 6mths is the plan and really now feel I can just keep going

    How many times a day do you express? Now 3-4 (I am on moltilium which gives me a good supply) started with 8 per day though.

    Do you enjoy it? Yes and no. Feel good about what I'm doing, don't love sore nipples and being strapped to a pump!

    Do you have other kids? No...not sure I could do it with a second child.

    If you feel comfortable sharing- Why you are expressing? I have flat nipples and giant (16h) boobs and Emily just couldn't attach. She was jaundice and sleepy as well which made it hard.

    What type of expressing method do you use? I started with a hired lactina from ABA then bought my own Medlea pump in style.

    How much milk in a day? 800-900mls

    Best expressing tip? A hands free pumping bra for double hands free pumping! So worht the $$$

    Oo that's lots of questions! Sorry, i just I wonder about others experiences a lot.

    Thanks for sharing!

    PS Mods I would love to see an exclusive expressers group if there isn't already one? If there is can you direct me please? I think there might be a few of us out there.
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    [QUOTE=eej;1574915]Hello,


    How long have you been expressing? I did it for 9 months and stopped as there were no studies done on long term use of Motilium

    How long do you plan to do it for/ or have done it for? Would of liked to of kept going, but fell pregnant anyway!!

    How many times a day do you express? Early on, 3 hr all day and night, after motiluim, 4 x daily

    Do you enjoy it? Was very hard, but yes....


    Do you have other kids? Yep, 4 others at the time!!!

    If you feel comfortable sharing- Why you are expressing? Kane was born with a complete cleft lip, gum and palate, so had no suction ability at all...


    What type of expressing method do you use? Ameda Purely Yours double pump, loved it

    How much milk in a day? Around 900ml- 1lt.

    Best expressing tip? Yep, made my own hands free pumping bra!!

    I found it SOOO rewarding, and Kane is the picture of perfect health, even after Op's and all........

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    oooh this is a great thread - I'd been wondering how many others were out there!

    How long have you been expressing? 3 months

    How long do you plan to do it for/ or have done it for? hopefully 6 months

    How many times a day do you express? Varies... minimum 4 times, and more if I feel my supply is starting to drop.

    Do you enjoy it? Varies by the day, but I'm determined to keep giving him EBM if i possible can (started on BF/EBM/FF and have managed to drop the formula entirely for the last month). Sometimes hate trying to juggle it with outings and when nipples are sore. People say I'm doing such a great job to do it... but honestly it's easier than BF'ing!!!

    Do you have other kids? No...not sure I could do it with a second child (ditto!!)

    If you feel comfortable sharing- Why you are expressing? I have inverted nipples and large (E cup) boobs, plus Xander is a mouth-breather... he'd attach then come off then attach, then come off... plus we were using nipple shield... milk everywhere. Never managed to get attachment without nipple shield. Stopped trying the boob for the purposes of feeding at about 7-8 weeks.

    What type of expressing method do you use? I started with a hired symphony medela then bought my own Medela pump in style (double pumping is the BEST!).

    How much milk in a day? ~700-1200mls

    Best expressing tip? comfy chair, drinks on hand, don't argue with your DH while trying to pump!!! and foxtel is a saviour.. just sit & chill! (oh and lansinoh is very handy too)

    My extra question - do you think your baby feeds more or less often than a BF baby would? Xander feeds on average 4 times a day (sleeps nights).. I think this is probably less frequent feedsn than if he was being BF'ed. He's also caught up from 25th percentile height & weight at 2 weeks, to be 75th percentile at 8 weeks... is this due to the ease of consuming EBM, it's easier for them to gain weight quicker?

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    How long have you been expressing? made it to 10 months

    How long do you plan to do it for/ or have done it for? just till my milk dried up

    How many times a day do you express? Every 4-5 hours till 9 or 10 at night then I stopped and then started all over again at 6 in the morning

    Do you enjoy it? I didn't really think about it.. it was just second nature to do it

    Do you have other kids? I had an older child who was 4

    If you feel comfortable sharing- Why you are expressing? Isaac was a sick baby and the meds he was on made him sleepy and he just couldn't attach without a screaming fit and I really wanted him to have the good stuff

    What type of expressing method do you use? I hired a Medela pump from a medical supply place

    How much milk in a day? expressed 2 * 240ml bottles in the morning and on average one full 200ml bottle each time there after

    Best expressing tip? a pump you can take out and about and the attachement for the car for expressing on the go,. not battery powered

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    Belfie I think they feed less often when fed EBM. Emily has five feeds a day about 160mls each time but I don't have anything to compare it too. We were always supplementing when I was trying to feed her on the boob to flush the jaundice. I think getting the good stuff has helped your little one grow so well. I agree with you on the foxtel and lanloin is great!

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    Eej - glad you think so too re the EBM & frequency. I think my boy is a gutso, cos he'll usually have about 240mls per feed (and the other week took 300ml one day - I think that was 12 wk growth spurt!!). I was freaking out that I was going to run out (I don't have a lot in reserve yet, I'm trying to build up a freezer store).

    And I forgot to mention, I'm also taking Fenugreek (had supply issues early) and X also had jaundice (60 hours under lights) but oddly enough actually BF'ed better then than he did later on.

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    How long have you been expressing? Me 7 months

    How long do you plan to do it for/ or have done it for? My first goal was 3 months, then 6 months as DS had surgery planned and I wanted him to have the best stuff around to help him heal!! Now I have just kept going but I am cutting my pumping back and hoping to stop by the end of the month!

    How many times a day do you express? Was expressing every 3 hours for the first couple of months then brought it out to every 6 hours...Now just twice a day

    Do you enjoy it? Yes and no. I am so proud to have achieved my goal but it does mean you have to revolve your life around expressing!

    Do you have other kids? No...not sure I could do it with a second child.

    If you feel comfortable sharing- Why you are expressing? Taj was born with a bilateral cleft lip and just couldn't get a seal around the nipple! We tried hard at breast feeding but it just wasn't meant to be!!

    What type of expressing method do you use? My lactation consultant was given a double electric pump by a brand called GROW to trial so she gave it to me (was free and very lucky to have been given it as they are expensive) It has been a godsend!!

    How much milk in a day? 1 litre and now I am cutting down it is only 200mls...two EBM bottles and 2 FF bottles per day now!

    Best expressing tip? To relax and enjoy the ME time while you express!!!!

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    Hi Ladies,

    Here's my story -

    How long have you been expressing? Stopped now but from birth to 12 months

    How long do you plan to do it for/ or have done it for? I wanted to go on for as long as DS needed but our Dr's and other specialists wanted me to put him on special formula as he was still very sick and small

    How many times a day do you express? 6 times a day

    Do you enjoy it? Yes and no. I enjoyed being able to give him the best there was but I really wanted to BF - tried BF every day until 9 months, he just wasnt strong enough

    Do you have other kids? No

    If you feel comfortable sharing- Why you are expressing?
    DS was born at 36wks birth wt of 1.6kg (3lb 10oz) with very significant heart defects (six in total) requiring ICU care from birth and multiple heart surgeries. He came home at 3.5 months old after 6 operations and was on Nasogastric Feeds (tube feeding). Couldnt actually sustain BF as oxygen levels were too low. Had tube for 26 months!

    What type of expressing method do you use? I used the Medella double pump for a few months then when supply was dropping off LC put me on drugs and another mum suggested I try the Avent Isis. I loved the Avent as it was softer and my let down was better with it. It didnt take any longer really than double pumping and was easier to carry when I needed to express while out.

    How much milk in a day?
    Around 1000mls but variable due to stress. Funnily enough I produced more when DS was critically ill - my body trying to nurture him I think.

    Best expressing tip? Quick breast massage before starting to get the ladies ready. Read a book if its all going ok or just look at your bub if you are having trouble with supply or let down.

    Great questions by the way - thanks for setting this up.

    I know its been a while since I was a full time expresser but it was one of the most significant parts of my mothering. I hope all of you who are doing it now are treating yourself with compassion and love for the amazing gift you are giving to your babies.

    Rachel

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    How long have you been expressing? I expressed full time for DS with no medications or formula supplements.

    How long do you plan to do it for/ or have done it for? I just wanted to do it for as long as i could, but 6 months was my initial aim and we ended up with 8 months.

    How many times a day do you express? expressed every time ds had a feed so in the first few weeks it was about 8 to 10 times per day, slowly decreased to 6 per day (wow thats a lot of work isn't it)

    Do you enjoy it? I enjoyed the feeling I got from being able to provide ds with the best thing for him, but I didn't really enjoy the actual act of expressing because it took alot of quality time away from ds.

    Do you have other kids? No, but if i did have another baby, i'm going to try harder to bf instead of expressing.

    If you feel comfortable sharing- Why you are expressing? hmm much the same reason as you, my nipples are way too flat and my boobs are HUGE (more so now after having ds), but i think that if i perservered longer, it could have worked with nipple sheilds.

    What type of expressing method do you use? the day i left hospital i searched all over town and then bought the only available pump there was, Avent isis IQ.

    How much milk in a day? on average about 1050ml

    Best expressing tip? A double chamber pump would be the way to go, it would have saved me heaps of time.

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    Wow guys! I am really impressed. I had issues as well with flat nipples/large breasts but managed to get an attachment and comp fed. I contemplated expressing full time but was finding it hard with the little amount that I was expressing. Well done to you all ladies.

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    I just wanted to pop in and say congratulations to each and every one of you!
    You are an inspiration to us all!

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    yep i agree - everyone single one of you is a big inspiration to me - i just hope i can do better 2nd time round!!!

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    That very lovley of you all to say!

    I'm inspired to keep going with it as long as I can by these lovely ladies.

    Sirenz-I think I maybe could have perservered and worked it out too but at the time I was stressed, tired ,anxious and experiencing signs of PND so it was the right thing for us to do. By expressing my nipples have changed anyway so I might be able to BF off the bat with the next bub...we'll see.

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    Wow, glad to see there are more ladies out there like me!!
    I had issues with attachment and amounts of milk with DD (suffered a PPH after her birth and was hooked up to IVs etc which made it hard for me to hold her for the first few days), she's always had a huge appetite and for the first week or so, until my milk came in, I literally had nothing to feed her so I was giving her formula and expressing like mad to get the milk supply in, then feeding her half-and-half formula/breast milk.
    I picked up a manual pump by Avent from Priceline the day I brought her home from hospital, and then I was using it for fifteen minutes each breast every three hours. It was reassuring to me to see exactly how much milk DD was getting, with Bfing you can't be sure and I never seemed to satisfy her, so feeding her from a bottle I could say with absolute confidence that yes, she was getting plenty. (right from birth she was drinking up to 90ml a feed, every two hours, which is a LOT more than other babies, so I knew I was right to worry about her getting enough, everyone was like, 'No, no, half an hour on each boob she'll be right' but she would just cry and cry and cry for more.)

    I didn't take any supplements apart from the Elevit vitamins I'd taken during pregnancy, for me expressing frequently was more than enough to keep the supply up - my diet wasn't real flash but I tried to eat lots of healthy, home-cooked food to help keep the supply going.

    I ended up slowing down and stopped altogether at 6 weeks, I was just so exhausted from getting maybe two or three hours' sleep in any 24 hours period, as DD was waking every three hours for feeds and I had to feed her, put her to sleep then express for over half an hour... I couldn't keep up and I knew it would be better for all concerned if I just weaned her and fed her formula so I could get some extra sleep. I wish now that I had persevered just another week or so because DD started sleeping right through the night at exactly 6 weeks old so if I had kept going we would have been right - my sleeping problems would have been solved.

    I'm due to have another baby in late May and I'm seriously thinking about expressing again rather than BFing - it involved a little bit more work than BFing, but I've always had problems with very sensitive nipples (I can't wear a seatbelt without wearing a heavily-padded bra because if the seatbelt rubs it drives me to tears) and attempting to BF DD while in hospital was the most horrific experience ever - I was bleeding and swollen and my boobs hurt more than my poor down-below, if you can believe that after squeezing out an 8+lb baby!
    I do want to do the 'right thing' by giving DD2 the nourishment of breast milk (and mum checked out the bottles I had expressed and declared it to be 'amazing' quality), but I just can't grasp the logistics of proper attachment and BFing in public, things like that. There is very little support for new mums in my area, the Community Health nurses are extremely rough and very critical, which doesn't help a fragile, hormonal and bewildered mum, and there is no support for women who don't 'try hard enough' and decide to express or formula-feed from birth, so I'm pretty much going it alone. Somehow I'm made to feel that I'm not a 'proper' mother because I don't latch bub on to the boob, but I figure as long as she's getting breastmilk, it's the same thing whether it's direct from my breast, or from a bottle, right? It didn't impact on my bonding with DD at all, and it helped her to bond with other family members (DH especially, and my parents) because they could nurse and feed her any time they wanted to (or any time I needed ten minutes' sleep!!) without depriving her of BM.

    I'm actually thinking very seriously of splurging and buying one of those electric or whatever pumps that basically do all the work for you? If anybody has any advice on those over manual pumps, I'd be very grateful as the manual pump obviously was a lot of work and I'd like to do anything that will help make the job just that little bit easier. For instance, with the manual pump I had to wait until DD had gone back to sleep because I couldn't hold her and pump at the same time, but hopefully the electric pumps will free up an arm for me so I can do things?
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    GothMum...
    I agree with you and think that would express again even if I didn't have too because it was great knowing that your bub had enough to drink! I always thought it would be hard to BF cos our boobs really need guages on them to tell us if bubs has had enough!!! It was hard due to lack of sleep(I think I only had 2 hrs per night for the first month or so) but it then became part of my daily routine and I didn't think twice about it!!! However having another little one around may make it a lot more challenging!!

    I used a brand called GROW because I was lucky enough to be given the electric double pump brand new. But you are looking at around $200+. Medela have a few good electric pumps single or double that you can buy! The medela Swing was another good one I was looking into! I know you can get those thru most baby supply stores!!

    If you aren't sure you can ring Fisher and Paykel(sorry bout the spelling) and get onto suppliers for Medela!! I may still have the number floating around if you would like it!!

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    OOps forgot to mention my important point.... Using the double pump was great because it only took up to half an hour to do both boobs but you don't have any free hands to do anything else!!!!!
    However only having the one baby it was ok....you will have to make sure your first child is occupied while you pump!!!!

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    Gothmum- Wow to express for 6 weeks with a manual pump. It would have been hard work. If you do decide to pump full time get an electic pump for sure! I recommend a double pump. I personally have the medela pump in style advance. I saw it on sale at toys r us the other day. Its cheaper now because Medela have a new one out called the freestyle that is hospital grade but the motor fits in your hand and you can walk around! Its $700 tho! I'd love one. I nearly got one from the US before i got my PIA but it wouldn't work over here.

    You can pump hands free with the help of a special bra that has holes in it that you can sit the flanges in. Mine is a brand called easy expressions, I have the hands free bustier, FABULOUS INVESTMENT! Google nursing angel that's where I got mine from.
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    Hi Gothmum, I actually used the medela electric, double pump for a few moths and then switched to the Avent Isis for the rest of the time - a total of 12 months exclusive expressing. I found the Avent Isis a better motion, more controllable than the electric pump - I got a better volume too. I also hired my electric pump from our hospital for around $15 a month. Look into that as an option - should be available from your maternity hospitals "Equiptment" or "Appliance" centre. All big hospitals have them. That way you can try it out without buying it!

    Good luck and well done expressing for your little one.

    Rachel

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