Exercise chat and tips round 2!

Great news Danni! Take a bandage or brace with you next boxing class as you may find you need it when you punch for a few weeks - it will just give you a bit more support.

Lisa - ooo I know that feeling. D watches my face intently to see if it hurts. Mobic is a prescription anti-inflammatory and is a tablet. It is one of the more gentle ones for your tummy. I've tried topical anti inflamms in the past ) so things like neurofen gel and voltaren gel; I find they're really only good for superficial and mild injuries. I was on oral Voltaren for a long time (too long) which DID help... but I was also taking 150mg a day (2 tablets three times a day). Ideally you should only need 1 tablet once or twice a day. At first one tablet was working well for me but as my injuries progressed - the tablets became less effective. Mobic works a little differently and, as I said, is much gentler on the body. When I was on voltaren, I'd get bad nausea, heart burn, heart palpitations, HORRID AF (really heavy and clotty). I've not had any issues in the 2 months I've been on mobic (which I'm on once a day and only take it when I really need it).

I've not had accupuncture - it's not something I feel I could do. For a nurse, I'm chicken ;) But I have a friend who gets it done regularly and loves it (although they don't have it for injury reasons). I'm a HUGE fan of Osteopaths, massage, and physio. My trainer recently had cupping done for the first time and reported it was crap - I told him I could have saved him some money :lol: I certainly advocate people try different things to see what works... so long as you see someone who is accredited in the field they practice. But as soon as it feels like it hurts or is making it worse... STOP. Walk away. Nothing is worth aggrevating an injury.

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I'm down to 63.6 kgs now!! I have lost 30 kgs since having Blake exactly now :D.

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WOOWOWOWOWOWWWOWOWO!!! 3 times as much as me! You are amazing Leesa! I bet you feel incredible! I feel great getting into my pre-pg jeans, but I have a long way to go. 5 kgs to target weight, but really in my head its more like 8-10kg. At 50kg I'm a minx! :)

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WOOWOWOWOWOWWWOWOWO!!! 3 times as much as me! You are amazing Leesa! I bet you feel incredible! I feel great getting into my pre-pg jeans, but I have a long way to go. 5 kgs to target weight, but really in my head its more like 8-10kg. At 50kg I'm a minx! :)

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It is an awesome feeling (minus my injury lol) - and I know what you mean about the goal. A few days ago I was stoked to be under 65kg - and I told DH 'I don't care about my weight now, as long as its under 65kg' - then I saw the number 64 on the scales, and again I said 'as long as the number is under 64 kg - then I don't care..'. Today the number is 63 lol......

Do I need to pull out a lecture on healthy image girls? Aim to be healthy... being TOO skinny can be bad. I WILL pull out a lecture if needed ;)

YES MUM!!!! :D

My BMI is 24.2 - so I'm healthy :D.

Oh MG - I forgot to post in my last reply - I am focussing on the needles entering my body, and as they twist them the pain in my hip is releasing....ah, to be the human pin cushion :lol:. BUT, I'll try physio first and see what he / she thinks re acupuncture. As long as it fixes my hip I'll do (almost) anything....

DOH - now I have that "i'd do anything, for you dear, anything, coz you mean everything to me' song from Oliver Twist in my head"!!!!

:rofl: Lisa! But *shakes fist at you* now I have that song stuck in my head!!! I like how you think about accupuncture! When I stretch, I visualise my joints opening up and releasing the nerves and muscles caught in them... Your physio might be able to reccomend a good accupuncturist which would be ideal. I found my physio because my osteo referred me (my original physio then left handing me over to this one, but that's beside the point!).

Now, any more silly talk girls... and I WILL stick on my nursing hat and issue a lecture! :lol:

I'm 5 foot nothing - my healthy weight range is 43 - 56kg. I am currently overweight and am looking to get back to the middle of my healthy weight range. My BMI is currently 27 so still too high. Aiming for around 22-24. I really am sensible. The weights I'm aiming for may be small to other people, but I am overweight for my height.

Winter - I'm all for healthy weight loss... but don't fall into the trap of "just one more kilo". For me, 75Kg is the highest number in my healthy weight range. I know from experience that is too low for me. I'm healthiest at about 80Kg. My ultimate goal is 80 but my mini goal is 100 (I'm 108 at the moment and have been between 108 and 110 for about 3 months).

hey all,
just checking out my avatar.. dont ya love the dumbell in there.. motivation to keep at it!

Love it Hollo!

Sorry gals but i'm backing MG here - we all know not to rely on scales...go yay one for cm off my stomach but not kg's pleeease! I know what i'm looking for and I will really come down on someone if I think they might be obsessing on this thread...i've been there with food and with exercise and trust me I will pick up on it.

I really don't want to put a downer on things and i'm not saying that anyone is getting too carried away but just know that i'm watching lol! And on the flip side if anyone does feel that they're getting a bit too carried away with things then please feel free to chat to me - i'm always here to listen and I will not judge...I don't have all the answers but I can listen...

Love you guys x

Very sensible ladies - I used to get in trouble when I went to the gym for working out past my threshold. One time I would work out til I felt like I would pass out, and then I'd go relax in the sauna so I could catch my breath while my heart rate stayed high - needless to say, that session ended with an ambulance :shakehead:

I worry sometimes that I overuse coping mechanisms, such as exercise - does anyone else feel the same way?

Yep, and it's really hard because it is a safe way to get rid of frustrations etc...it's when it becomes extrmeme that it's not healthy...BUT the thing is "extreme" is subjective. Lees and I may do waaay more exercise than the average person but thats because it's our joba dn there is an expectation of fitness, role model weights etc...

Also who's to say that the average person that decides they want to compete in Body Sculpting comps and has to go everyday for hours at a time is extreme. I think really only you know.

When I did the 12 Week Challenge last year I was doing way too much and my health was suffering, some days 4 classes and PT. I was obsessed with getting my bf % to 10 (got to 11) which is ridiculously lean - too lean. But I know that I have a tendancy towards obsession so I know to pull back but it's hard,very hard to know yourself...

ETA - look out for warning signs like lying to people about where you're going, my PT used to check on the national database if i'd been to another gym in the evening (sometimes I got the girls to not swipe me in or try and sneak in **shakes head**) also the femail athlete triad - disordered eating, amenorhea (no periods) and osteoporosis. I'm a bit of a freak, at 11% body fat I still had my period but I have low bone density thanks to 11 years of anorexia...not fun :(

well, i'm not even telling you muy BMI! :-(

Hollo, just look at your great avvy with the dumbbell! It doesn't matter what your BMI is, the important thing is that you're moving! :cheer:

I don't have the time to become a real gym junkie and not even the desire really. I just want to be back to where I feel really healthy & good. Trust me, I don't have the body to get down to 10% bf!! I store bf!! My boobs, bum, hips, thighs all love a good helping of lard! :rofl:

keeps you warmer in Winter Winter! ;) That's what I tell ppl anyway - I'm just gearing up for winter! :rofl:

Hollo - I LOVE the new Avvy! Go the dumbell! Motivation - WOOT WOOT!

Berny - ooooo I am so bad. I DO rely on exercise as a coping mechanism. It's how my back got so bad. I was doing well in my recovery and then ran (because I had had a horrid horrid day at work) and put my recovery back 3 months! But I didn't just do it once... :redface: D (my trainer) knows that exercise is my coping mechanism but also knows that I (NOW) use it wisely. Running gives me the pounding release I need and I MISS it... these days I'm much better because D has helped me manage it safely.

CQ - I agree no one is getting carried away... but I'll be watching too! haha. My trainer just turned away 2 clients because he felt they were being unrealistic and unhealthy in their goals. It was a mother and daughter duo - the daughter was in her teens. They both weighed what they should for their BMI and were HEALTHY. They BOTH wanted to lose 5-10Kg :o D told them the gym wouldn't support them in that endeavour. They have both joined the gym but can not have PT sessions (all new PT clients have to go through him).

Well girls, I have done my treadmill tonight. I'm very pleased with it! I am FINALLY back at 6.0Km/hr (my hips were so unstable after my last big relapse that I wasn't able to walk that fast due to pain and instability). It felt GREAT!!!! AND I was mostly at an incline of 4 throught my 30 minutes! I probably could have pushed to 45 minutes but wanted to get DD in the shower and into bed. My biggest downfall for tonight was that I skulled 500mls water after my session and have spent the last hour trying not to bring it back up :wall: And my hip flexor stretch HURT so I know it is too tight... it's going to be sore tomorrow! I think D will have to do some work on it Tuesday (he does a WICKED stretch for me!). Tonight I was DRIPPING with sweat from every surface - it was AWESOME!

Can't wait for my session tomorrow!

In my defense (:p) I'm at the upper end of my healthy weight range, if I can sit in the middle to lower end of it (giving me a threshold for AF :lol:) I'd be happy, and onto maintaining.

I find if I set a goal at each weigh in then I keep achieving my goals = feeding my motivation. I go by numbers on scales and cm's - sometimes a change in one does not necessarily effect the other, so keeping my options / results open :lol:.

MG - any chance you could 'coach' DH to help you with the stretch until you see D on Tuesday?

Hollo - I love the avvy :D

CQ - Rock out at your final Pump training module hun!! I'm sure you'll get cleared to instruct!!

Berenice - Interesting question....I don't think I 'overuse' exercise, yes I do a session each day and two on Saturdays, but I don't call that over the top and I don't do it as a coping mechanism. For me, exercise really is just a part of my life - I have the desire to be able to run and play chasey with the kids, kick a ball on an oval with them and not be gasping for breath. For me, exercise is something I can have just for me - although when I instruct, its about passing my joy of exercise onto participants and making it enjoyable and achievable for them too.....Hmm, I think I have digressed :lol:.

:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: that is one of the funniest things I've heard in AGES! DH doesn't even LIKE the fact that I train (especially with D). Every time I say I'm off to my treadmill downstairs or off to do home pilates or off to see D, I get an eye roll, huff, and he sulks for a few hours. Seriously, he should be more supportive considering how much weight I need to lose and the fact that before DD we were gym junkies together... and I supported him in his 7 day regime to get into the ADF!

I am so so sore this morning girls! Every time I rolled over last night I was in extreme pain in my back (not good!) and my hips were sore all night. This morning my hip flexor's are very very sore. I am going to have to do some serious stretching later!!! And my back is struggling. I can see that if I'm not careful I will relapse. I am a bit worried about it because I haven't really done anything big... if I can't tolerate the quicker walk - how am I going to tolerate a run?! I'm going to have to nut this out with D!

Awww, I think its cute DH gets in a huff when you go to see D! My DH responded similar when I said the second massage I was getting that week was from a guy lol! He was the only one left with a free appt and I needed to see if I could get any relief - what could I do? :lol:

I've got a silly question... what's 'D'? I know what PT stands for - but not D... :redface:

Things are a bit slow here but I'm hoping to start my morning walks up again this week - wish me luck!

Hollo - awesome Avvy! ;)

You'll never hear my BMI - it doesn't bother me. I will let you guys know when I get under 100 kgs (will be important to me!) and when I get to 90 kgs (lowest I've ever been as an Adult) - but other than that my guideposts are how I'm feeling... not any measurements. Just how I roll... :lol:

Hope everyone has a fab Sunday with some good exercise in it! ;)

Sorry Net - D is the initial of my trainers name. I've never revealed his full name for privacy reasons. And I don't go by my BMI either!!! I actually don't believe in the BMI - it should be used as a GUIDE only and not gospel. But I won't go into that ;) Good luck for the walks! Give me an N!:cheer: Give me an E! :bluecheer:

Leesa - you know, it would be cute if it wasn't an ongoing issue and problem.

nettie, cant wait to hear when you hit your under 100kg mark!! :-)

thats a good idea, actually. i think i will reveal to you guys when i hit the 80kg mark! i am 93kg at the moment so a fair way to go. 80 is my goal. used to be 75 but i am more realistic now! LOL

ok, diet question... what do you eat when you are snacking? i need to buy some quick, healthy, yummy snacks. not boring like fruit, salad etc. i seem to eat a lot of bread. toast for breakky, sandwhich for lunch etc. i also, tend to snack on DDs treat type things, tiny teddies, etc.

i need to get a handle on it, because i am sick of going to the gym and then not loosing weight cause my diet isnt changing.

I'm a fan of almonds Hollo, they're quite good for you :D.

arent nuts fatty though?

Hollo - I'm the same. It's my diet that lets me down. I need to cut the snacky foods out. And I need to curb my carb intake. I always have toast for breaky. Lunch is usually avocado on rice thins, or tuna on toast, then we usually have potato with dinner!!! I NEED to start having more salads for lunch I think. But I get bored with them. It's hard to find a yummy and filling salad.

Low GI is the way to go. I find that it helps me with cravings. I have noticed that if I reduce my carbs & up my protein I don't get the intense sugar cravings as often. I have tuna on corns thins for lunch a lot and snacks for me tend to be fruit, cheese, yoghurt, chocolate (hey, I'm no angel! :)). I also have started sipping peppermint tea in the evening after dinner and so far so good, sugar cravings have been reduced. I find that if I stick to low GI then when I do have a blowout, it's not as big. I used to snack on cashews a lot but they were part of the problem for me. A snack would be 3 or 4 big handfuls of cashews & I hate to think the energy in them.

For what it's worth, the only diet I ever follow is the Physics Diet. Energy output must be greater than energy input. Think about how many hours at the gym that treat is going to cost you! And if you still really want it, have half.

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arent nuts fatty though?

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They are healthy fats Hollo .

I wondered why my salt intake was blowing out on the calorie king website - it was tinned tuna, so I only eat that in moderation, in saying that - its hard to avoid salt these days :wall:.

Breakfast for me is porridge and a banana.
Lunch is mountain bread (they're like thin wraps) and I'll add cherry tomatoes, cucumber, cheese, lettuce, red onion, maybe red capsicum and sometimes a fat free luncheon meat (although high in salt too).
Dinner is baked fish, steamed carrots, peas, pumpkin, brocolli.
Dessert is a fat free yoghurt.

I used to always have potatoes, but at that time in the evening it'd just sit in my guts and because I'd fill up on potato I wouldn't eat the other vegies as much. So I've gone cold turkey on potatoes now, and I dont really miss them either.

You'll notice I don't have snacks - probably because I drink stacks of water each day, and that keeps me feeling full. If I do need a snack its usually a handful of almonds, an apple, some rockmelon or watermelon etc - nothing fancy.

I am quite happy to eat the same thing day in and day out, instead of fish for dinner we may have chicken (baked) instead. I vary the vegies and fruits I eat - and thats about it. Once a week we'd have red meat too - but thats it. Sorry, I'm boring in the food dept :redface:.

I have Jalna yoghurt for breakfast, some cheese on crackers for morning tea, tuna salad for lunch, whatever's on for tea (we try to have veggies every night, but often accompanied by fried meat or in a curry or something).

This is what I was eating when I lost all my weight. Portion size was the main thing - I would stop eating when I was full (even if there was only 2 spoonfulls left) and I drank at least 2 litres of water every day (plus coffee/tea but replaced with extra water).

Still had chips/chocolates/treats if I REALLY felt like them - but again, portion conrol. I wouldn't have a whole chocolate bar or packet of chips. Even if I ended up throwing out the extra - because it's no more of a waste in the bin than it is in your body if you're not going to use the calories! And if I did have a treat, I would plan for a session of walking/weights/bike to make up for it. Once I learnt this, I would figure out pretty quickly if the cherry ripe was worth 40 minutes on the bike! ;)

My tuna sald isn't boring. It's a tin of flavoured tuna (probably high in salt, but meh!) - I like the greenseas tomato & onion 98% fat free one - a tomato (or better still 4 cherry tomatoes) one iceberg lettuce leaf, a slice of cheese (VERY important to ensure flavour), chunk of red capsicum, chunk of carrot and sometimes some snow peas or celery.

Slice it all up fine (I just ripped the lettuce leaf up) and pour the tuna on. Mix it all together and eat. Probably looks awful, but tastes yummy. I mixed it up by having different flavours of tuna (curry, lemon, pesto, etc). I rarely tired of it (but if I did, I didn't force myself to eat it - I think that's why I'm still a fan!) If I needed a change, I would have a salad sandwich instead.

I think it's terribly important to LIKE the food you're eating. You're much less likely to binge...

Just my :twocents:

Time for a new thread!