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Sophie! I was so so glad to hear from you! You sound like you're in a really good place emotionally atm. I know I'm not in your position at all but still feel that I can relate, have also had intercountry adoption paperwork sent out, I had partially fooled myself into thinking even though it might take some time that it would be less of an emotional journey than ivf but I was wrong. There is still much uncertainty and it seems like there are many ups and downs through the whole process and much financially involved aswell.
Have also decided to see a new fertility specialist finally managed to get into a very well recommended one who is much closer than the other inner city one I used to go to. I responded really horribly to synarel and so he said I could take orgalutran instead. I remember you said earlier you had injections instead of synarel, could you tell me how it worked?
Wishing you all the best for this cycle!!!!!!!
Take care
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Hey, you still sound very fragile, the crust my take a bit more time! A fresh set of eyes help and certainly seeing somebody closer can be a benefit stress wise (unfortunately mine is further away but fortunately it is actually cheaper). .
I remember that about you and the Synarel! Fortunately I can't think of any stand out problems from Synarel. For me, the orgalutren is so much easier logistically, just one already dosed needle at night at the same time you take your puregon or gonal F. No second guessing if the spray went off and if you should give it another shot just in case and no stressing about the bottle being upright at all times. I guess my only symptoms are feeling a bit crazy but no more than other cycles as I am taking the FSH as well and that could just be me normally! Also we are doing ovidril instead of pregnyl as the trigger so much easier.. 1 pre dosed needle rather than a pharmacy in the kitchen.
For me, I have requested, and FS agrees, with extra monitoring because my hormones can be ratty which would affect my eggs and they could shoot off AND i was worried about my progesterone levels (in my last cycle about two days before the preg test all of my usual progesterone symptoms disappeared). I do blood tests every second day before trigger and I have just been given pessaries to take after retrieval morning and night and will have a total of 4 blood tests including pregnancy test post retrieval to ensure the best environment for emby.. Fortunately blood tests don't worry me.
Make sure you do what you can to keep as calm as possible with some regular walks or try some yoga or pilates and get plenty of sleep. Go to the movies to distract yourself and get stuck into some books - twilight is brilliant for distraction.
Good luck. Am in retrieval tomorrow!
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Hi Sophie
Justa quick note but thanks for your advice!
Hope EPU went well and you have some nice strong embies ready for transfer! How did your fertilisation % go this time!
Are you still sticking to your eating plan?
Take Care
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No have not stuck to a diet actually, this FS states not to worry about the diet as I don't have PCOS - I asked him the same question over and over again. If it doesn't work this time then I will definately do it. I will be strict following transfer though as it can affect implantation.
Well had EPU last Friday. 8 eggs collected, injected 6
Day 1, 3 had fertilised,
Day 2, 3 were at 2 cell stage, 3 had not divided
Day 3 (today) 3 left, 1 at 4 cell, 1 at 5 cell and 1 at 7 cell (and looking to go onto next stage) - all A grade (I understand the grading is based ono looks but has more to do with ability to handle a freeze and thaw than predicting a pregnancy (ugly embryos still produce cute/smart kids) but to have anyone grade you an A feels pretty nice)
Embryologist said they can pick up pace as evidenced by the 7 cell, so she says it could still happen to my 4 cell.
Day 4 ? who knows ? possibly a drop off but hopefully and acceleration! Have a blood test & ? ultrasound and will chat with the FS about strategy
Day 5 ? my plan (still to be discussed with the FS) is to transfer the best and also another less advanced (an underdog embryo) and leave the other medium sized one for freeze.. if there is another. I don't know the quality of my frozen emby however it would seem silly to have one of my current embys go through the process unless they too are all brilliant and the frostie is the underdog over - other issue is the frosty is a day 6 so not sure if it can be transferred a day 5, surely it will be feeling a bit groggy and won't mind a day of just hanging :). The embryologist is going to have a chat with my FS on the strategy.
you know yesterday I was feeling quite sick about such a drop off (my most severe) but when it plateued and they started dividing and with this new FS, I am feeling quitely confident/positive. The embryologists have been also very reassuring too.
Let you know how I go post transfer!!
When is your FS appt? When will your cycle start??
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I am feeling absolutely miserable today. Basically I have had the worst 'harvest' result in a completed cycle. Basically at day 5 I transferred an embryo that was not even a compacting morula (in fact they said it was not quite a morula), the two others I was told today had added more cells which was a good sign for the one that was transferred but were not good enough for freezing a on day 6 as they were still not blastocyst. Fortunately, I still had my day 6 frozen blastocyst from my previous clinic to use and so transferred that. I can't believe I called that day 6er dodgy and crap, it is now my best hope.
I realise it could be worse but goddamit, I deserve by now with 8 ICSI cycle (plus two other half dones) and at least 14 transfer to get better than this.
I know I have to put this in perspective ..anything transferred is a chance despite how miniscule but that is doing my head in, I just want to sleep for two weeks and move on with creating a new batch. I also need to realise that with my other clinic they did not tell us anything about cells along the way, but we always were told we had blastocysts and usually could freeze between 1 and 3.
I also know that my diet MUST have an impact despite what my new FS told me as when I stuck with it my FS stated I had the best result he had seen.
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Hi Sophie
Sorry have been super busy lately. Oh dear, I'm not sure whether to say congratulations on making it to transfer or send hugs, you have been through so many cycles! I think you are awesome to have been through 8 icsi cycles plus!
Am really hoping this is your surprise unexpected bfp! I know what you mean about diet, I think you have to go with your gut and at least you know if it helped its worth it and if not at least it can't hurt.
I'm completely confused! I wanted to test for coeliac just in case, so was eating a tonne of wheat (bread pasta you name it) and I was on holidays so was even indulging in nice coffee and chocolate then out of the blue I got a really heavy AF! I dont normally cycle at all ever! I did have 1 or 2 periods naturally after DD2. But haven't had one until now since my ectopic in June - nothing not a thing then all of a sudden...Does this mean my body is back to front and likes wheat and caffeine and sugar? That can't be right.
So because AF came I decided to go for a quicky IUI before my sisters upcoming wedding (next month). I don't have my hopes pinned on it though if we could only get 1 out of 6 eggs to fertilise with IVF my statistics aren't looking good. But I didn't want to risk OHSS and not fitting into my bridesmaid dress or any massive disappointment around her wedding. Plus I wanted to see how I cope with treatment emotionally and test out my new FS and whether or not I'm able to make it to my appointments without too much stress. My last one was a 4 hr round trip for every 2 minute scan. Am also on gonal f this time.
I have no advice to give but I will be thinking of you over the next two weeks and pray that it flies by and you find many meaningful activities to distract yourself with until you find out your results. FX for you!!!!
Take care of yourself
Did your FS say anything about future cycles (hopefully you won't need them though)? Were you on a lower dose of puregon this time?
