Yeah they make the 9 seater or whatever it is now, so they are scarce - but well worth the find. The very back seats either fold down or come out completely. Actually, we read that its the only 7 seater on the market that ALL car seats can be removed from the car. so when we aren't using the very back ones, we just take them out. It was handy when we moved too cos we took out the very back ones, and the 3 in the back seat - wah-lah - its a van! lol

