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CUDDLEPIE - :clap: congratulations :clap: That is an excellent fertilisation rate. You will surely have a decent number of blasts to biopsy :D
MEREDITH - hang in there hon'. You are a wonderfully fertile woman with every chance you will be officially UTD in a few days time ;)
SARA, LISA, BULIEJ, ISHY - :hello:
AFM - somehow managed to wake up with a UTI this morning. On antibiotics. Ho hum...:rolleyes:
Evening ladies
CP - thinking of you atm. I know these next few days will be stressful. Praying you have a strong and healthy bunch of embies growing in their dishes!
Sara - I get you on the stress thing. It is really hard to functions normally when you are pumped full of hormones plus all the anxiety over what is or isn't going on. Ah would be the joy to be one of those women who just finds out they are pg at 12-16w and everything is all fine and dandy. hard to believe they exist but there are certainly plenty out there!
WTH - thanks for the cheer. Wish I just knew already!
Realistically, I am either pg or not by now so just want to move on either way.... sigh.... I am normally very patient but not with this stuff!
Can't say I have a strong feeling for yay or nay yet. Got all sorts of symptoms but with all the drugs, who knows?! Pessaries don't usually stop AF so will certainly know by Saturday when she's due.
Sorry for being a bit slack ATM, haven't been feeling very well yesterday. I was sure that I am ok to be at work given I didn't take any painkiller on Sunday and feeling alright, but it turns out to be the longest day ever. At the end of it, I had bad back pain and felt a bit heavy at lower abdominal area. Didn't have a good sleep and still in crap crap mood today. I am suspecting because of the sudden drop of the hormornes...This morning, got a faint brownish discharge (sorry TMI) and maybe the old blood from the procedure just came out? Back pain is still here and I will see how I can stand at work today.
I had a good old rant to DH last night and think I just can't deal with all these anymore...anyway, today is a new day. I will update you how we go on the embie report later.
Thanks Sara, Meredith and WTH for thining of me. How can I do it without you? Sometimes it just seems hard. Meredith, I hope you are holding on alright, at this stage, no news is good news I guess. When is b/t?
Hang in there, CP. Any blood at this stage is likely to be from the EPU and nothing else. When's transfer and how are the little ones growing?
Meredith, also thinking of you and hoping you can maintain some sanity at this stage. Can't be much longer to wait now. :hug:
BW
Hi ladies,
Lying in bed with a headcold today so feeling pretty ordinary....
Buliej, Sara69, WHT - Thanks for your Hi, nice to be thought of, I am doing OK
Ishy - Welcome and congratulations with your BFP:dance:
Meredeth - Try to focus on the beautiful little person growing in your tummy, it is a lot happier in mummy than in a cold ivf lab.
Cuddlepie - Keep up the good work, 6 fertilised is a great number. Hang in there.
I went to the Christmas service on Friday night, it was really lovely and really sad. We were given a gift box that we wrote our loved ones name on and then hung it on their giant tree, and we took them home afterwards. It is now on our tree here. It is wonderful how strangers unite when they have something in common, I was sitting at the front on the end of the pew so everyone had to walk past me to hang their box on the tree, I was crying and I had 2 women touch my shoulder and offer me their sympathies, and another lady took my hand and smile. I cried lots that night but was really happy I went.
Have a good Tuesday and be kind to yourselves.
Thanks BW for the reassurance. Transfer is on Thursday.
Clinic just called about my 6 fertilized embies. 2x7cells, 1x6cells, 1x5cells, 1x4cells. So total 5 are still vaiable and two are a bit slow. I hope they will catch up soon.
This is the time that I wish that my clinic will just do Day3 transfer. Then I will have more to freeze etc etc. I know from D3 to D5 will have a big drop, with my spirit at the moment, I will feel very lucky to have a good blastie to go in on Thursday.
Lisa, I am so glad to read that you enjoyed the service and it must be beautiful and I have tears in my eyes. Have a good cry and grief your angel and I hope you find it make it a bit easier during this silly season.
Lisa - glad you found the Xmas service comforting - it's amazing how much the kindness of strangers can mean.
CP - those numbers sound good to me - as I'm new to the whole PGD thing - when will they test the embryos? isn't that why they can't do the day 3 transfer or can some clinics do PGD early enough so that you can still do a 3 day transfer?
Buliej, because this is our first cycle with my FS, he wants to see how many embies we ended up with for this cycle, so this cycle we won't be doing PGD. FS suggest it because of my age and past m/c, but only when we have sufficient embies....so obviously there is not enough and we can't risk with no embie go to TF. Tough tough tough....:rolleyes:
I think it is a general practice in SIVF to do 5 day embyros including PGD biopsy on Day 5. but I think in Melbourne, some clinics do Day3 biopsy which is what Meredith did....
Hi y'all
Cuddlepie - Just wanna give you a :hug: for feeling crappo. But.... at least your embies are doing wonderfully. In two days you will surely be PUPO (te he he - you taught me that one). I hope your back pain has subsided and you are getting some sleep. OMG - tell me about the hormones jumpin' and a slumpin' :o But there's nothing like a good ol' rant, eh?! Not long to go, now. :crossfingers: for Thursday
Sara - hiya potential cycle buddie. Have mean't to chat to you a bit about DHEA. According to my FS, you are the perfect candidate. Feel free to fire any questions my way.
Meredith - thanks for the info on the Gonal-F. I met with my clinic nurse this morning and fished for more info about it v's Puregon. Apparently my FS is swapping a lot of clients across at the moment. She says it is still pure FSH so I should respond similarly. I guess we will find out in a month's time... :pray: for you and your little beanies
Buliej - hope AF comes a knockin' real soon for you so you can get back on track ;)
Lisa - the service sounds very healing. It is lovely those women reached out to you (in only a way that women can). I am glad you are finding some much needed support in all corners. Seems very timely :)
BW - Oh wise one. Thanks for continuing to support the women on this thread!
AFM - surprisingly perky! Wasn't expecting to do so well after a failed IVF cycle! Perhaps it's knowing that I only have to wait one month until I start stims, rather than unnecessarily blowing one with the down-reg protocol. Have bought some fresh pineapple for DH to make his swimmers happy for proposed BD-ing this weekend :redface: Meanwhile, antibiotics kicked in right away so seem to have nipped the UTI in the bud. Was assured the drugs were Class A and would not interfere with my follies. Am on Day 8 now and usually have my estrogen dip bleed/cramps today or tomorrow. :pray: the MacaRoot/accupuncture/two months of stims do the trick and I make it through!
CP - big hugs to you atm. I can certainly understand your mood..... the things we put ourselves through eh? Sounds like your embies are on track for day3 but I know the next 2 days will be the real test. I am kind of with you on the whole day5 thing. I KNOW its meant to be gold standard and helps weed out the best embies, gives the highest pg rates etc etc but I just don't believe that every emby that didn' t make it to day5 would not have made it full stop. My sister did IVF 12 yrs and 5yrs ago ( that one with donor eggs) and her ET were all day 3. Neither of her now healthy children were good looking embies at all ( even at day3) so you womder if they would ever have made it if left to grow on. I guess I am coming now from a viewpoint where none of my 9 "good" embies made it to quality enough blasts to freeze so the whole "drop off" is really, really scary.
Praying you get at least 2 good ones so you have a spare ( or another sibling) on standby!
Lisa - my heart goes out to you. Sounds like a womderful service, very comforting I am sure
Sara and buliej - how are you hanging in there?
WTH - Get to it this w/e girl! Lets see a natral miracle before xmas!
Me - not much to report. Days dragging on and on as I count this last week down. DH is never that fussed by my symptoms etc after a cycle but this one has really got to him and he told me last night how desperae he was for this to work. We still haven't really discussed what to do if we get BFN. I think he likes the idea of doing PGD again but the costs understandably concern him.
I think I am really feeling the "pressure" of needing to get pg this time to get our PGD tested baby.
Sorry guys for being MIA - wrote a long email this morning but lost it.
Cuddlepie: The numbers look really good, will keep fingers crossed and think of you hoping your embies keep doing so well.
Sara
Good morning, girls. Could not get on BB at all yesterday afternoon so I guess that's why there's been no action here for a record 2 days!
Cuddlepie - thinking of you and hoping you get/got to transfer??????????? :pray:
Meredith - yep, that symptom analysing will definitely do your head in. Are you thinking of doing a HPT around the time of the BT? I just could not handle hearing it over the phone so chose to do one with DH when I knew the Pregnyl was well and truly out of my system but a test work work (15 dpo). I wanted to share the moment with DH - whether the outcome was joyous or sad. Just curious...
AFM - well, my spotting and cramping arrived right on cue, at midnight between Day 8 and 9m as it has since all non-PG cycles since Jan 2008. Quite light, and continued until after breakkie. Then returned for an hour again last night. But it has been heavier in the past on cycles where I have naturally fallen PG. I did spot for a couple of hours last month on Day 7 FSH, despite the fact my estrogen was well over 600. So maybe no harm done to my follies this month. Maybe the maca root and accupuncture have helped a little bit. I have spoken to two FS about this and neither will help or comment. They just say it won't happen on IVF (even though it does). My theory now is that around Day 8 or 9 the dominant follicle is trying to take over and perhaps the other follies stop producing as much E2. Only this does not explain why it still happens on an IVF cycle. Alternatively, maybe it is light because it has taken a few days for the lining to build only to be shed again.The more I think about it, the more it does my head in... :wall: End of my long-winded rant. I just don not know if this happening to anyone else and just wish my body would act more normally and continue to fear this is all pre-menopausal.
Hi,
Hope you're all fine, I wasn't able to access BB for the last two days. In the middle of a very stressful day at work, therefore only able to write a quick mail.
Cuddlepie: sending you a big :grouphug: was thinking of you and hoping that you're resting comfortably after transfer.
Meredith: hope you're okay, not long now till BT.
WTH, Buliej, Lisa, BW :hello:
Sara
Sorry not really up to personals today althoug I am hoping CP has had a sucessful transfer today.
Past 2 days I had beun to feel fairly confident i was actually pg. Usually i would have very strong AF cramps by now - not happening, plus I've had sore BBs and yesterday felt quite nauseus at times.
With all my other IUI cycles, this has always been a great sign and I have always done HPT around this time (12dpo). My "gut" feeling has always been right and if I think I am pg then have always been greeted with two strong lines.
Well, feeling confident, I did HPT today. NO second line. Not even a hint of a second line when I squinted!.
So I would have to say a defnite BFN for us and must be the whole IVF which is messing with my body. I know everyone will come in here and say "its to early" or "don't give up until your BT'" but i KNOW there is no chance. I have been pg 5 times and even though all but 1 were not sucessful, they all gave good strong BFP on HPT so a -ve HPT IS a BFN for me.
I am more shattered than i ever expeced to be. Had to call DH ome from work. I was sooooo hopeful for this cycle and just still in shock I guess. This year has just been bad news after bad news after bad news. I just don't know how much more I can take.
To add to that, I am stressing already about what we do next. DH thinks we should just go back to IUI and take our chances without PGD. He is worried not only b the costs, but also thinks all our embies were damaged by the testing. I can see his point given our "drop off" from 14embies and none frozen but I am also terrified of having more m/cs. Haven't got appt with FS until the end of Jan. I REALLY need some questions answered before then.
So sorry for the rant, I know everyone in here has faced failed cycles. I think I am just reaching the end of my tether at seeing our dreams slipping away faster by the day.
:comfort: Meredith, thinking of you and hoping against hope that just for once your gut feeling may be wrong... but I know it's awful having people build up false hope so I shall offer my support, my condolences and a comforting :hug: and the fervent hope that you do find answers very soon.
BW
Dear Meredith,
Still hoping that there is still a chance that the test is wrong but can understand how devasting it is.
Perhaps you could ring your FS and ask if they could slot you in earlier in case they have a cancellation or if you at least could talk to your FS over the phone. After my cancelled circle I was able to talk to the nurse about my options which also was of some help.
My FS also sometimes answer my questions via email, so maybe you could ask if that would be possible.
:grouphug:
Sara
Meredith, I am sorry to hear your news but really hope you are wrong. I know you don't want to hear this but until you have b/t please don't lose hope. I can totally understand 'reach the end of tether part', I was so feeling the same as you yesterday and had a big full on cry. I just feel I can't face this anymore...
Anyway, that cry must have helped me to face the TF day, I am feeling better. TF went well although we were an hour late due to so many scheduled in today at clinic.
Out of my 6 viable embies on Day 3, one is a front runner, a grade 2 blastcyst, 2 early blasties, the rest 3 are still in Day 3 cells-stage they said but they will keep an eye on them to see any more development. I am relieved about the result to say the least. Also happy to see improvement in the result that seems DH's improved SCSA result did make a difference from DAy3 to Day 5 development, normally we would see a huge drop off and most of them are fragmented.
FS suggested to transfer two, the grade 2 blastcyst and 1 early blasties, he said because we don't know whether in the next two days they will definitely be frozen, they are still perfect for transfer at this stage. The chance of multiple pregnancy is quite low and we don't want to waste a perfect embryo. So here I am with 2 on board now. We've never done 2 before I know it won't increase my chances but I am still excited. Hope they will grab on and stay for a long haul.
So very tired, got a bit back pain already, sorry no personals but a big hello to everyone! I will catch up on personals later...
Cuddlepie:
:stickyvibesgirl: :bluecheer: :leap: :cheer: :stickyvibesboy:
Lots of sticky vibes and a big hug, go the Christmas BFP!
Sara