Long Term AC chat thread #3

Thanks Melissa!

Hoping the supplements will help too! Can you remember what was in your uterine tonic? Did it help?
Make sure you update us on your BT tomorrow! Good luck x

n2L- sorry Af appeared abut at least you can move on now and get into tip top shape for your upcoming bfp! I will be following your lead when I do a stim. xx

melissa- great symptoms! Very reassuring. BT will go well i can feel it! We will see you soon in palttc thread lol. Yers my clexane spots hurt, i have massive bruises covering my stomach and they are sore to touch- bugger. What dose were you on?

afm- still bfn so resigned to AF arriving this weekend, had heaps of cramping last night at work all night so AF can come NOW please and put me out of my misery! I am dreading Af, will she we be heavier due to the aspirin/clexane? I really hope not. What was yours like N2L? At least i got my medicare refund so we can afford another FET. Have a great day everyone!

Hey hey, sorry we were out really late last night and am feeling it today. We went to a concert which was great but boy, did I struggle!! I've been having snoozes late afternoon/early evening which I missed out on and there were times during the night where I just wanted to rest my head on DH's shoulder and sleep!! HCG yesterday was 1340 so has a doubling time of about 44 hours so everything in me is crossed hoping that keeps up. I work in the lab where we do all the hcg, E2 etc etc and I was actually going to go and get bloods done every few days on the quiet but in actual fact, I think that knowing the exact numbers will stress me out more than wondering what they are. So now, just need to hold it together until our scan on December 15th. Don't get me wrong, I am so soooo thrilled that this has worked thus far, but I hate the fact that past experiences make you assume the worst will happen. Must keep thinking positive, must keep thinking positive!! At the moment, I feel in limbo cos I am too scared to go across to a pg group but figure I should enjoy this as whatever comes, it will be my last chance for this.

N2L - I can't exactly remember what was in my tonic, just that it tasted absolutely FOUL!! From memory, it had liquorice, chaste tree, something to do with paeony and several other evil tasting things!! How about yours? Knock it back chick - it will do you wonders!!!

Saff - I was never on clexane, just aspirin, thank goodness. Not big on the idea of another needle and that one doesn't sound nice! Ahhhh, crap to being sure AF arrives - rotten nasty b!tch that she is :(

I think I am going to lay low for a bit but I am so going to be stalking you girls. I can't wait for us all to be in the palttc group together - bring it on. Good luck, chickies, may this next cycle be the ultimate one for you both:grouphug:

Hey Melissa!

My uterine tonic is 20ml a day of -
Si wu tang
Rehmannia glutinosa
Glycyrrhiza glabra

Lovely! Not :lol:

This made me laugh... hope you will too.....
I found this on my google travels...


When Mattel were looking to design their new Barbie, IVF Barbie, they soon realized that there was not one universal Barbie that would accurately portray the spirit of IVF Barbie. So they decided they would come out with a few variations thereof.

Newbie Barbie:
Newbie Barbie, also known as BabyDust Barbie is a bright, perky, Barbie, filled with optimism and confidence that IVF Will Work. She is thinner and usually younger than the other IVF Barbies. Her accessories include rose-tinted spectacles, a positive bank balance, healthy insurance coverage and a million questions. Newbie Barbie has lots of other Newbie Barbie friends and they congratulate each other on a job well done. This Barbie only says pleasant, optimistic things and believes that Attitude is Everything. Their motto is Think Positive!!

Pregnant Newbie Barbie:
Pregnant Newbie Barbie is the big sister to Newbie Barbie. She is still slim, now with a cute belly. She is proof that IVF Does Work, usually the first time. She also comes with rose-tinted spectacles, a positive bank balance (only very slightly depleted) and total confidence that All Will Be OK. She glows when pregnant and liberally uses baby dust when playing with her sisters, the Newbie Barbies. She comes with Very Cute maternity clothes, a double stroller, and a fully decorated nursery even though she is only just a few weeks pregnant. Her motto is ‘See! Thinking Positive Works!!’. Newbie Barbie and Pregnant Newbie Barbies are great playmates and you can collect them as a set.

Joiner Barbie:
Joiner Barbie is cousin to Newbie Barbie and Pregnant Newbie Barbie. Joiner Barbie comes with a group of friends just like her, and this group calls themselves by the name of a furry animal or has reference to a season. Think Spring Blossoms or Bubbly Bunnies. Accessories include a chart or table of some sorts, lots of smiley faces, baby dust (a glitter-like tub of ground up positive attitude that apparently has the power of hocus pocus to make one pg), declarations of eternal friendship and love and lots of ((((hugs)))).

Veteran Barbie:
Veteran Barbies are not at all related to the Barbies above. Veteran Barbies are the Anti-Barbie. They are a whole lot plumper than the Newbie Barbies, less perky (in boobs and attitude), have grayer hair, a largely negative and over-drawn bank balance, plenty of bruises and marks and a slightly cynical attitude. They are dressed in comfy track pants with elasticated waistbands. Their accessories include a wealth of knowledge of reproductive procedures and protocol, the ability to practically do their own cycle, a snarky attitude, little tolerance for stupidity, a well defined sense of humor, the ability to laugh at themselves, a fondness for wine/beer/crack and an aversion to pineapple, baby dust and Newbie Barbies. This aversion in its more severe form can be allergic and acerbic. Veteran Barbies tend to swear quite a bit (especially when playing in the Barbie House with Newbie Barbies and Pregnant Newbie Barbies) and parental guidance is advised.

Pregnant Veteran Barbie:
Very similar to Veteran Barbie, only now with an added dose of neuroses and paranoia. Continuously and obsessively over-analyses every twinge, convinced that the end is nigh. Only buys stroller and decorates nursery when in eighth month. Accessories include disbelief and a sense of not quite belonging, and 10 home pregnancy tests just in case the first one was faulty or the clinic made a mistake with her beta. Pregnant Veteran Barbies have been known to pee on the sticks up until the day before giving birth just to see the two lines.

Celebrity IVF Barbie:
Celeb Barbie comes in two versions: Denial Celeb Barbie and Out of the Closet IVF Barbie. Denial Celeb Barbie does not play with the other Barbies and pretends not to be an IVF Barbie at all. She drops the IVF part of her name and thinks ‘Donor Eggs’ is a swear word. She pretends that her twins at age 49 are Natural and she did it all On Her Own. She also claims her boobs are her own and that she has never had a face lift, hence her credibility is not at an all time high. Out of the Closet IVF Barbie is the preferred Barbie. We like her.

IVF Ken:
Ken is a ****3r. Sorry to sound so harsh, but besides being a ****3r there is very little that Ken does in IVF land. Sometimes Ken administers shots, hands out tissues and occasionally accompanies the Barbies to their Dr’s visits (normally during the first few cycles only), but mostly he is just a ****3r. If you choose an IVF Ken, then try and get one that also cooks or does DIY. Otherwise just sit him down in front of your Barbie TV and let him know when it is time for him to do his, um, contribution. Mostly the Barbies love their Kens, unless Ken is being particularly insensitive or obnoxious, then he becomes a ****3r in all senses of the word. Some IVF Barbies don’t even have a Ken and they do just fine. If you do find a good Ken, hang on to him, don’t swap him with your other friends.

FS Ken:
FS Ken is the all knowing, all seeing Ken. He might be a ****3r, or not, but here we are talking about being a ****3r in the figurative sense. He could also be very nice. He may call you by your first name but you may only call him Doctor. His accessories are many and wonderful. He comes with a zooty new car (normally very expensive), a smart house, a very healthy bank balance and a holiday home or two. FS Ken knows every thing and is considered second only to God. Some FS Kens are kind, some are not. They are all rich. Ken’s office is filled with fun toys like ultra sound machines, dildo like probes, waiting rooms filled with the different types of Barbies (some annoyingly come with miniature Barbies or Kens in tow), medicines, procedures rooms etc. FS Ken also comes with a free Nurse (Ratchet) Barbie, who will not return your calls, will hand out annoying platitudes and generally add to your frustration levels. When purchasing FS Ken you will get Ultrasound Ken and BloodDrawer Ken. Unfortunately they come as a package deal and you are not able to get FS Ken without them, they aren’t as much fun. However, you will need a FS Ken if you are going to play the IVF Barbie game.

Mattel foresee a big demand for these Barbies and say that for extra fun and lively interaction, collect the full set of IVF Barbies, put them in the Barbie house together and see the sparks fly.

I hope this puts a smile on your faces....

thats great!! , unfortunately I know which one i am and don't have to tell you all in here :rofl:

I'm guessing it's the same one as me (VB :p) :rofl:

Hugs to all the VB's :grouphug: that was awesome :lol:.

veteren barbie just got AF , where's that crack?

Saffy from one VB to another sorry AF came :(

Sorry Saffy :(

:grouphug:

Its ok, I was feral with pmt yesterday but feel better now AF has come. Poor DH is upset though I didn't tell him I was testing ( he doesn't like me to) so it was a shock to him but i had tried to prepare him yesterday. He thinks it didn't work cos i was negative about this cycle...sigh...if only it worked that way!
Anyway I can't even drown my sorrows in alcohol cos I am on nightshift for the next few nights. ALso, my next AF is due xmas day- GREAT!!!

Hi girls,

Melissa- hows things going? i hope all is lovely in your world, you deserve it xx

N2L-hows the supplement stuffing going? Do you feel any healthier? I'm already getting into christmas goodies so I will find it hard this time of year to have a good diet. Probably should recommence royaljelly now if I am probably doing a stim early next year. I went to buy some coq10, its so expensive! So will have to wait until my next pay ( we are povo at the moment due to a number of factors) but i am keen ot get onto your regime. Hope oyu are feeling ok and getting positive for a successful cycle next time. I really hope we are preggers together.

Hi Marushke and Joeve xx

AFM- CD5, taking letrazole, and scan next week. Having the 'wake in the middle of the night' panic about never having a child, what am I doing I'm nearly 40 its never going to happen, why am i bothering I've missed my chance, etc etc. I'm trying to stay positive but its getting harder and harder I suppose....I jut want it to happen now.

Saff - hang in there hun. I know just how much it REALLY hurt and p!ssed me off when people would say it to me but hang in there. While I know I do have a few more years on my side, I had honestly really and truly given up on it happening for us because we just had so many medical issues that it seemed impossible. I was having session after session of counselling because I was trying to prepare myself for the cycle failing, knowing that we were done after that and I was so scared that I was going to go to pieces. I was at pretty much an all time low during this last cycle. You are addressing your immune issues now being on clexane, so that shouldn't be an issue now so (tell me to shut up, totally won't be offended) please, please keep believing it can happen - this is coming from me, I am proof that it can - DH and I were such reproductive losers that even our FS had all but given up on us!!!! Thinking of you chick and hoping like mad that your little sticky one is just around the corner :hug:

N2L - cracked up at your Barbie post cos I think the PVB is based on me! Paranoid much? Yes - rang up the clinic in hysterics on Wednesday cos I was sure it was all over. There was absolutely no reason for me to think this but it is definitely that sense of not believing so just waiting for something to go wrong. All is good and numbers right where they should be but I freaked. How is your delightful tonic going? Are you straight back into another stim cycle? :crossfingers: that it is finally your time :)

thanks melissa I'm not offended or upset at all, need a pep talk now and then, thanks xx

Hiya all,

Lovely to hear from you Melissa! Even better to hear everything is going so well :) I was thinking the other day that if I am ever likely to get UTD I will be an absolute basket case!!!! It freaks me out even thinking about it! DP and I decided not to do a stim cycle straight away. Well, he did more than I ;) He didn't want a potential (probable) BFN ruining Christmas. We have a gazillion people here for lunch and his work is extremely busy in the lead up to Christmas so he thought it would be best to wait. I begrudgingly agree with him. Anyway, I am CD 10 today so I am hoping for a natural Christmas miracle. And it would be a miracle!!! If not, we might still try to fit a stim cycle in by the end of the year. If we start our drugs by December 31, we are still covered by our Medicare threshold. It will save us a couple of thousand dollars as opposed to doing it in January. All that needs to happen is my body to cooperate :rofl: Yeah, right...

Hiya Saff! Speaking of Christmas miracles, I pray you get yours. I really, really, really hope this is your time sweetie x

Imagine if we all ended up being PVBs together :o What a basket of neuroses and anxiety that would be :lol: Oh God, how I wish we could be!

Not much happening here. Still supplement stuffing. Missed last night though because DP and I went to see the Foo Fighters in concert. Just couldnt be stuffed with the routine when i got home. Oh well, one night wont hurt I guess. I also have DP back on the menevit. It's the least he can bloody do :lol:
So this month we will go all out with trying naturally. It's almost pointless. Hasn't worked so far...I have no idea why we can't get pregnant. It just freakin' sucks :( :(

Sorry for the pity party. I think I am just tired. Onwards and upwards
take care x

Hi all :)
Not much to report here. Cd 12 and my opk line is almost, but not quite as dark as the control line. I will keep testing but I reckon surge will be tomorrow or Wednesday. Then it's BD city baby!!!

hey N2L, I am hot on your tail. we will be in sync soon. Is this a natural cycle for you?
Had a CD9 scan today and had a massive follie (24mm) so the nurse triggered me on the spot and I am booked in for next Tuesday to transfer my last lonely frosty bub- who better be the lucky last, if it knows whats good for it!!
I will be ovulating Thursday apparently, how did we end up Oing at the same time, I was a week behind you last cycle! I do ovulate early, my body must have wanted to be in a tww with you!
I really need to get some BDing in the next few days, as a back up plan, but Dh and I are ships passing in the night at the moment due to my shifts. Good luck for your Bding N2L..... get jiggy with it baby!