Long Term Assisted Conception Dec 2007

Welcome, Kell. You are correct - changing the way you cycle may make a big difference to egg quality... too hard, too fast isn't exactly ideal - it's pretty much what happened to me at my last stim cycle, and the first for that matter! My PCOS ensured we still got plenty of eggs, though and I was lucky enough to get a few into the freezer each time. No fresh transfer on either for me. Good luck with the new protocol, and I like forward to getting to know you more as we travel this journey together.

BW

Hi Everyone :D

Welcome, Kell - I know you don't want to be in here... Neither do we, we all want to become graduates & get out of here! ;)

You're right, though - Couldn't be in better company, and we'll do anything we can to help you along the way :)

A change in cycles will make all the difference... I've done 4 full stim cycles with natural therapies/acupuncture with the last one, and each cycle has been really different.

The most important thing (If you're an 'overthinker') - I think is to only let yourself think about each day as you're in it.
Its just too hard with AC to try and plan and work out how things should be going ahead of time - things always pop up and can change from hour to hour, let alone within the weeks of a cycle ;)
Take it as it comes, and then you won't exhaust yourself with things that haven't happened yet.. Thats what I've had to learn, as IVF has made me have to come out of my comfort zone in the fact that I have to be in control 100% of the time.
Once I realised that it wasn't possible to be in control with IVF, things became a lot easier!

Best of luck to you, and we're all here for you... Hope your stay in here is a quick one ;)

xxx

Hey Mel - Did you manage to get in to see Dr S???! :)

Nah Holly not yet....waiting for a time when geoff and I can go up together and as the big boss is away till mid feb wont be before then.

Good Morning Ladies

Welcome Kell, lets hope your stay is short and sweet!

Just a quick one, saw the FS this morning and im fine to do a medicated or non medicated FET as soon as i want to im CD31 at the moment. But DH and I decided we are going to sit out a Jan/Feb and take each month as it happens. We are doing really great at the moment and just want to enjoy that for now without hormones and periods of menopause arghh! Saying that it was extremely hard to say "no we need a break" and stick to it. So this month i keep on the diet and keeping shaking that IVF weight loose (3.4kg so far) and enjoy my DH. Oh and Cheer cheer cheer for you girls!

Good luck with the Dr S appointments, welcome back Chez, and fingers crossed BW!

Shan

Hello ladies, I'm new to this thread & only very new to this whole forum. I've 'moved' from the Donor Conception Thread.

DH & I were told in December that he had no sperm - so we immediately considered donor. But my DH just had a testicular biopsy conducted by our FS and sperm was found.

We are now taking the IVF option.

Am I in the right thread? I'd hate to start blabbing if I'm in the wrong place.

We have our appointments with Sydney IVF on Thursday. We'll be seeing the accounts department, counsellor & nurses. I'm sure they'll give us plenty of information. But I love the stories & support this forum gives, so I just want to be sure I'm in the right place.

Hi Rather Hazy. You can either post in the Long Term Trying to Conceive and Assisted Conception area, or here in Long Term Assisted Conception, depending on which you feel is more appropriate for your situation. Cheers.

Ahhh, yes I'm sorry, I am in the wrong area. We're only about to start IVF.

Thanks for the heads up Slyder :-)

Well done on the weight loss Shannon! 3.4 is a good number. Thats what I have lost since joining WW 3 weeks ago. Having lost close to 5kg all up, I am already feeling a whole lot better.
Enjoy the rest of your break. I am sure you will definitely feel the benefit of giving yourself more time.
I've enjoyed my AC break so much over the last few months I am dreading starting again. My feelings change on the subject almost daily, but I am really not looking forward to going again. Not even for my non-medicated FET.
This month marks 3 years of TTC for us. I honestly dont know how people keep going. Some days I really just feel like giving up and living my life the way I have for the last few months....without putting everything on hold for ivf.
Don't mind me.....just feeling very over it today.

Oh Megan i can definately relate we hit the 3 year mark last Nov and well it really sucked! And yep even after writing that post i went home begging DH to rethink our decision and go this month, even though i dont think i really want too i just keep changing my mind every 5 mins. And lol yep we are doing the WW thing as well our 3rd weigh in is tonight so hopefully hoping to reach the 4kg mark! Well done you sound like you are going great! And crazily enough i think its perfectly normal to enjoy not taking hormones, injections, egg pick ups, transfers, crazy hormone gel/pessaries and just living life and finally having some control over what is happening! I say enjoy! And when you will know when you are ready to jump back on the rollercoast... well you will for 5 mins, and then change your mind every 5 mins! :hugs:

You know that you have been doing IVF and assisted for too long when you think it is weird that people can have sex and get pg!!
LOL
just my tit bit for the day!
ho hum back in my box
odette

Lol Odette.... sex to make babies what a novel concept :)

yeah right Odette...that's just an urban myth along with bunyips and the loch ness monster!!

Sex causes babies? No way! I just can't believe it!

BW

i can't believe that - it must be a lie!!!

sex = babies???

in what parrallel universe does this happen??

Hi Guys...I'm back! Finally moved....unpacked and sorted the internet connection. DH is still tantruming as we can only get dial up...yikes! Have already checked out the hospital and the path lab...will wait to settle into the new job before jumping into another cycle...but we wil!Hope you're all doing well! Looking forward to all the upcoming FET's and cycles...best wishes for BFP's all round xxx

Hi

Kell - welcome to our humble little thread... I hope your stay is short along with all of us... I know what you mean about not wanting to be here... it is hard to take some days but I have found it does make it easier when you have the support of the wonderful people here at BB.

Hi Shannon - good on you for having the will power to lose that weight. I lost 10kg last year but since moving I have been a bit slack in watching my eating and getting regular exercise, so I have put 4kg back on, so you have inspired me to shake my ar@e and get out there again! Thanks!

Hi Ellie - good to hear from you. You're still in WA then but moved to a new clinic etc? I have found that that in itself is a bit scarey but also fills me with hope as my new FS has talked about different protocols etc that my old FS hadn't mentioned. Maybe the move will be just what we both needed? :pray:

Hi to BG, BW, Melbel, Odette & Megan - I hope you are all well and have some relaxing planned for the long weekend!

For us there is not a whole lot going on. We were planning on a long weekend away with some friends at the coast but I just picked DF up from the airport (he does a lot of travel for work) and he has picked up a bad dose of food poisoning and has been sick since about 3am this morning! Poor thing - he looks very pale and has aches all over his body, especially his legs and is running a temp. I think he has a fever coming on so will have to watch him tonight and then take him to the dr in the morning. So, it looks like our weekend away will not be happening :(

And I also got a message that our appointment with the new FS has been delayed to next Friday now... hopefully AF doesn't decide to come early this month!

Anyway, take care everybody and best wishes for some BFPs, maybe even from the natural variety which is apparently caused by having sex! My BF, who I was bridesmaid for last year, fell pg naturally while on a break between IVF cycles - she's 40 as well - so it can happen!
Cheryl

Hello Ladies

Ellie - Welcome back hun, congrats on the move and comiserations on the dial up... hehe, your poor DH!

Chez - Wow 10kg is fantastic! And im glad i can be motivating :) Ahh and stay away AF just for a few days! Good luck with the FS.

Hope everything is going well with BG, BW, Mel, Odette, Kell & Ann.

Well i know i have a slight vent.. i went to fat club on wed and sat where we usually do, and yes i may have already have been agitated at only losing 300g when i had been sooooo good! Anyway... this couple and another lady friend came and parked us in with their prams and blocked the doorway. One sat next to me holding a baby and two directly behing me holding their twins... and drove me & DH insane. I sure you can imagine.. chatting the whole time and one of the ladies was SOOOOO annoying and yelled the whole time and then had the gall to have a go at me and DH for trying to leave but couldn't get throught the doorway with 3 prams blocking it!! Ok i know probably a huge over reaction on my behalf but arghhh.

Ok shut up Shannnon! Also CD35 here and starting to get a little frustrated!

Positive Shannon will be back next time! Sorry for the bleeding ears!

Shan

Hi Shannon

Go ahead and vent! Storing it up is so negative and really, really bad for us TTC'ers... especially when we have had stress in recent times with work, failed or cancelled cycles, etc. But I understand what you mean - it should be so easy to be happy for others with their babies. Some days I go gooey looking at the babies and can't help but smile at them and other days it is like the green eyed monster has possessed me and all I can think about is "Why not us? Why can't it be just as easy for us?" I just usually end up in a bundle of tears, which can be quite inconvenient in the middle of a shopping centre!

So, take heart. WE understand! And hopefully this year we will all get the good news that we so desparately want! The changes you have made with your job, enjoying a healthier lifestyle and destressing can only improve your chances.

Take care of yourself this weekend - maybe there is even room for a little treat for having done so well with your weight loss, like a trip to the movies or manicure or a massage?

Cherylxx

Hi all just popping in to see how everyone is tracking.

BW - i have been reading your news and although I'm not checking on or posting much at the moment, i am thinking of you, these results are the hardest to cope with. I hope you take that break you mentioned and start to get the answers you need when you are feeling stronger.

BG - i hope you are OK? you have been a strength for many people in her (myself included!) make sure your taking some of that time for you. I cant believe your going on the pill? i didn't think mac wanted to do that cycle with you due to how you responded with IUI?

Cheryl- I'm sorry you didn't get to go away - i hope DF is feeling a little better. I'm also sorry to hear that your FS appointment has been delayed - i hate it when that happens.

Ellie - good to have you back on line. sorry about the dial up though!!

Megan - how you hun?

Melbel - shame you couldn't come up to Sydney with me - i could use a distraction while on the plane as I'm not the best flyer either - esp in those little planes - give me a jumbo any day !!

Holly - not long now - hehe looking forward to meeting you, not looking forward to my appointment. still if i get any of the answers for the 1000000 questions I'm just about to put down on paper i will be happy - although i have this terrible feeling that it will all worth nothing and then i will be back where i started!

Shan- Vent away hun - i have many of those days - but then i do work in childcare. CD35 - i'm hearing ya on that too. unless im preparing for a cycle (FET) i don't even track where I'm at with my cycle - i do still write down when af arrives and leaves but don't start counting the days - it can be too depressing when you start heading up to the 60's IYKWIM? At least i know i'm seeing DR S on CD23 to have the tests done - other than that i never know where I'm at and that helps me to not focus on it so much. but everyone has there own system

OD - gosh i think about two years ago when most of my friends started having babies i started to think - and they just had sex?? i guess the sad part about my IVF journey is the fact that i been left so scared by it all its really hard for me to now get close to my DH. that and the fact that its just too painful now. from all the scar tissue it even hurt to walk and carry objects at the same time yet alone sit down too quickly - when will it end? And when i talk about it with DH he gets really angry as though I'm making it up? but then other times he so supportive.

OK signing off now to put pen to paper with all the questions i have for DR S, then off to the shops to buy a gas cook top, already got the oven - gosh cant wait to get this kitchen done - hopefully before uni starts

PP, thank you. There's been a lot of thinking and planning going on in the last few days... I'm definitely going to sit out this cycle, that's about the only thing I am definite on! I know there needs to be some adjustment before we do this again, but not sure exactly what! Debating going back to see my FS or Dr S or both or none and listen to my gut feelings on everything first! Either way, I'm ditching the prednisone completely for a while and losing some weight before anything else happens.

I'm sure that you'll find Dr S amazing and wonderful, and I really hope that you get the answers you need and a plan for moving ahead. Same for you, Holly! He really is an amazing man.

Hope everyone is well... I've been a bit reclusive during the TWW, so I'm a little out of touch with a lot of you.

BW

thanks for checking up on me Lou - not a lot happening here - Mac put me on the pill so that he could "force" a withdrawal bleed when they need it so that i have a lining built up for FET. ummmm, sure, not a problem - except they're stopping the pill 22 days before FET - does that sound normal??

the pill and i haven't really been friends. have had a fair bit of diziness, which i can cope with. had an "episode" last week that scared the crap out of me - mass visual disturbances, followed but loss of sensation in one hand - scary stuff. the doctors are tossing up the idea of a headache-free migraine - or a small stroke! talk about scared outta my mind! i guess that's why i've been flying below the radar a bit!

seen GP and chiro when it happened (making sure no impinged nerves etc) - and have optometrist appointment next week. covering all my bases. spoke to the nurse at the clinic - her advice "well, if it happens again, we'll call the FS and see if he wants you to stop the pill". ummmmmmmmm NO!! if it happens again, i WILL be stopping the pill - and you can sort your ***** out around me! i'm sure there are other ways to bring on a bleed!

Oh BG - my love how awful. This is going to sound really strange but something similar has been happening to me over the last few weeks.

i went to my gp with regards to black spots in my vision and feelings of dizziness. he told me it was properly my inner ear,also suggested the flight to london may have caused this??? now i know this can effect balance ect but i am still a little worried, I've also been getting these sharp pains in my head like some one screaming in my ear - but no ear pain - just above it in my brain!!!Anyway yesterday while trying on a bra in myer i nearly collapsed - scared myself silly

i put it down to several things - im not taking my metformin at the moment, nor am i taking the aspirin. I also only had a small tub of yoghurt in the morning and it was now 4.30 pm so im guessing it was a blood/sugar thing - i has the shakes for over 30 minutes after, lucky i had some dates in my handbag to start munching on.

this is one of the things i will be discussing with DR S

Please look after yourself. i'll be thinking of you xx

Far out BG... I hated the pill because it made me a raving lunatic emotionally (well, more so than normal :P ) but thats just scary. Can they not use primolut aka norethisterone to bring ona bleed like other Drs do? Its what I have used in the past. Sounds rather terrifying tbh. Hope you are okay.

bb - i asked - but the "control" they need isn't there with primulut - i got af anywhere from 7-10 days after stopping primulut - my FS guarantees withdrawal bleed within three days. HA! little does he know my body doesn't like being told what to do - i would LOVE to prove him wrong again!

ahh bugger :( Hey, you refer to Mac, is that Mac Talbot I saw him for my IUIs, but we then moved during our break from ttc, and are at MIVF for the IVF now. I really liked him, though!

yep.i see mac talbot. he's the only fs that works a clinic out here

Hi ladies - just a quick one from me - this may sound silly but do any of you know if CM is still fertile when cloudy but very stretchy ?, i don't think i have ever seen my CM clear, not that im thinking of bding any time soon, just want to know if my body is getting on the right track! ive always hear that it needs to be EWCM? but can it just stay cloudy? and still be ok? - guess not? but thought i would ask

PP, my EWCM is often quite cloudy, so I'd still say it's fertile mucus you've got there.

:redface: There's me and my mucus obsession again...

BW

ahhhhhhhhhhh, that obsession is handy sometimes hunny



knew you wouldn't be able to resist answering :p

Morning

Thanks for listening to my vent, completely over it now :)

PP - I would definately say the amount and consistency are more important that the clarity. Definately sounds as though your body is playing nicely!

BG - Craeful on that pill sounds like it is playing havoc! I get seizures on the pill so have not taken it in a long time! But it is truely evil! Good luck i hope you get your BFP and never have to take it again!

BW - Posted in your journal hun, im thinking of you and you sound as though your head is screwed on and your making good plans. Hope AF is playing nice!

Hi Mel, Odette, BB, Ellie ! Hope you all had a great long weekend :)

Well i had a nice weekend went down to Ballina for my sisters birthday, left DH at home so i drank too much :) Im sure the scales wont be going down this week although i still went for a 5km walk/run and went bike riding so hopefully they will stay even. Sat down with DH last night and had a big chat about TTC and what our plans are so planning to go back and see the FS on the 11/2 if AF hasn't arrived yet and figure out what the heck we can do about it to get started on a FET.

Question though.... can you go on rollercoasters in your TWW?

Shan

Some people say that the G-force of the rollercoaster actually helps implantation Shannon so "who knows?"
Go with your gut feeling, I dont think there is right or wrong answer to that one.

im not a fan of roller coasters but hey if it helps with implantation - hell i'll be the first to give it a go - GL and would love you hear what you end up doing

Lol, DH and I have a holiday planned for March, we booked this gorgeous house in the gold coast hinterland for a week and i promised DH a trip to Dreamworld. We discussed transferring the week before the holiday so i would be stressfree and relaxed, but he still really wants to go to dreamworld. And i kinda feel like well it hasn't worked all the other times and i didn't ride rollercoaster and did everything to the letter, so why not have fun and if the emby cant handle a day at dreamworld it probably wouldn't last the long haul. And i love the gforce theory!

But as this IVF goes all my planning will probably go to crap snd we will end up transferring nowhere near the holiday :)

Hi Shannon

LOL about giving the rollercoaster a go during the TWW :cryinglaugh: I reckon if it makes you laugh then GO FOR IT! Some happy endorphins have got to be a good thing during the TWW. Lordie knows that that is something I should try next time myself :D And a week in a house in the hinterland sounds like absolute heaven to me... too many 12 hour days for me at the moment. I need some R&R!

Cherylx

"lo lovely ladies,

just checking up on you. Back at work now and sooooo tired. Don't know how I'm going to manage Uni as well, and now my manager wants me to do a Cert IV in Frontline Management on top of it.

But wanted you all to know I'm reading even if I'm not posting. Missing being on BB lots but what can you do?

sounds like you're in for a busy year Sushee!!!

you got that booklist for me yet Sushee...or have you got it all sorted?!

sushee,
if you need help with your frontline stuff- i write the course notes and questions for a RTO so may be able to help you if you get stuck
mwah to all
still here doing it a la naturale at the moment as our money tree has lost it leaves at the moment!
anyone know where we can get another one from???

hope everyone is travelling the curved road ok- don't forget to hold onto the sides!
odette

hehe - wish i had met you two years ago OD! i did Cert IV front line management with work back then at night school. there was about 27 colleges when we started and i think only 20 completed the corse.

Thankfully work paid for it all, and now its helping me to cut short subjects in my uni degree!!!YAY

Sushee i was going to offer my help and books but i'd be taking OD up on her offer, still im always another person to ask, i think i did mine in 10 months nut that was one night a fortnight plus all teh school holidays off

GL