still KC here (that Knicker Checking)
who else?????
odette
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still KC here (that Knicker Checking)
who else?????
odette
Lol Odette you sound like you should be in the TWW thread, do we ever stop knicker checking!!
things have gone from frustrating/concerning to downright annoying here. nurse finally called back at around half nine, and when i said AF hadn't arrived, she went "hmmm, well, for some people it does, others it doesn't" - wtf?? my fs GUARANTEED me she'd visit - he PROMISED that i'd get a period if i went on the Pill - otherwise, why the hell did i go on it. Nurse said that just wasn't the case and for some people AF just doesn't show up. grrrrrrrrrr. i'm not sure whether to believe her or the FS - i'm leaning towards thinking that neither of them have a damn clue how to manage a "difficult" patient (body wise). any way - nurse asked for me to go and get a BT (cos of course, i FELT like running around all over town) and if my levels were "flat" we'd start HRT tomorrow. Well - enter mega-p!ssed BG. My levels are ALWAYS flat - i TOLD the FS that - i TOLD him the pill wouldn't work - and now we're back where we would have been without the pill - except that i'm a few days behind where i really should be - AND i've had a month of hell to boot! not happy.
so, off to the chiro, into the jewellers to do a little job for DH - then back to the hospital for BT - and of course, i get a new staff member that couldn't "anchor" my vein - i have the best veins (or so i'm told) - i've had nurses able to anchor the vein without a tourniquet in the past! grrrr. results tomorrow - and probably start HRT straight after...
i asked about "alternate" ways to do FET - the ONLY options i have are a "natural" cycle (i don't o - so that one is out), a clomid cycle (i don't respond, so that one is out too) - or the HRT option - which i guess wasn't too scary til the nurse told me that both the HRT and progesterone pessaries would be continued until at least 10 weeks...i soooooooo hope i don't respond badly to the drugs...
oh yeah, the other thing - i did a ring around of the pharmacies where i can get progesterone pessaries - one is "local" to where i would be when i go for my u/s - so i figured if the price difference was minimal, i'd get them from there - well, i got quotes from Melbourne (about $85 for 34) - then from the local pharmacy - $208 for 34! they're flogging them at almost $16 per pessary! that is attrocious!!! i'll be faxing my script to Melbourne next week...
OMG!!! I have EWCM!!!
Guess who is going to get lucky for Valentines Day?!!
May as well not waste these in between IVF cycle months....hehehe
woo hoo - wtg Mel!!!
BG, I'm just astounded at how unhelpful your clinic is! Are there seriously no other options for you guys? I share your frustration, I had so hoped that things would go smoothly for you. Looks like I'm eating up the share of our good luck at the moment! How much puregon do you have left over from the IUI cycles? I recall it being quite a bit at one stage, would it be enough?
Mel, hope you at least have fun with the EWCM, good luck!
Odette, Shannon - I never stop knicker checking even when I'm nowhere near the TWW. I also have that terrible cervix checking habit. I'm just hoping I can keep that urge restrained when I hit the TWW this time.
Having the arthritis flare from hell at the moment. Combine horrendous pain levels with the frustration of slow dial up, and I'm really not able to post much. Without the ADSL I can't just leave windows open and type slowly like I normally do when things are bad.
BW
I DO have some puregon left BW - but i think i'd be shooting myself in the foot at this point if i chose to use it - i just dont' have the strength to fight the nurse when she see's a follicle developing - plus i don't have a trigger shot!
I do wonder if a follie grown by puregon would ovulate on its own without a trigger. That said, I have two vials of puregon powder (and liquid) here through only ever being able to do half strength triggers with the OHSS. Not that I'm suggesting anything, mind you! I can understand not having the strength to fight any more. I suspect that the fight would be better directed at the FS rather than the nurse anyway.
BW
Hi ladies!
BG - what a total bummer day you have had! You must be feeling so frustrated and the nurse's repsonse to you must be have been horrible! Any rational person would be annoyed but someone who is stressed out and hormonal from the pill would just be inconsolable. Lucky you didn't climb down the telephone and commence wringing the nurse's neck! I hope you get some success with your bt results. And that is scarey about the price of the pessaries. I never think to shop around for my drugs - I just go where ever is convenient - I will be thinking twice about that next time!
Mel - enjoy Valentine's Day ;) and maybe relax a little on your detoxing diet if you can!
BW - I was hoping that you had your arthritis medication under control... is it the cold that has made things worse for you? You need to get onto your DH about the router.... we NEED you!
Shannon & Odette - I have spent the day running to the loo and knicker checking! Still no sign of AF but sore BBs and nipples. Maybe I tested too early - CD 27 when I am usually a 26 day cycle. I did use a crystal clear... maybe I need another brand? Or it could be an ectopic - I read somewhere that they don't show on HPTs until later??? I am sure my body is doing this because my lap is scheduled for next Monday!
Anyway, another early morning tomorrow and another very busy day at work... so likely that AF will turn up just before I have to do a presentation at a big meeting in the afternoon.
Take care all,
xxx
there will be some massive "not so nice" comments thrown at the FS when i next see him - even though i'll be pg at that stage! i'm not prepared to take it laying down, so to speak! FS needs to get a fair verbal floggin - i don't care if he's been at this for 40 years - i've lived with my body for 27 - and i KNOW it's not the same as everyone elses - they need to recognise this!
very tired and still headachey now - am dosed to the eyeballs on pain killers for the moment - chiro trip doesn't seem to have been the magical cure it normally is - am wondering whether maybe this headache is "chemical" - as a result of the stopping of the pill - or whether i'm just having a stress headache from everything that has occured... hmmmm - either way, i don't think i'll be up to too much tonight!
It's the rain and humidity that trigger arthritis flares. There's also a certain amount of irony in the fact that for the last two FETs I went to 20mg of prednisone even though my arthritis is fine. Now, I could sure as hell do with 20mg of prednisone, but I'm sticking with 10mg because I just don't feel comfortable going to the higher dose for transfer now. I can give myself a very short dose of more, and hopefully get things under control quickly. I could soldier on over the weekend, but after a day at work... :crying:
DH might be getting a new router tomorrow. So I could be back online tomorrow night. If I'm not back online properly by the end of this week, DH is going to be one very, very sorry bloke! How can a girl be offline and limping along with dial up on her birthday, really?
Anyway, signing off for the night - will talk to you lovely ladies (and slyder :p) tomorrow. I have a rather non-busy day at work tomorrow, so hopefully I can sneak on from there. Today's been really quite flat out.
BW
Well AF decided to sneak in unobtrusively last night when i was on my way to bed - woo hoo (well, so i thought) - no pain, just a bit of pink and then flow started. figured it was typical, seeing i'd gone and had a BT yesterday - always happens that way!
my woo hoo turned to a massive boo hoo at around half two this morning when i was in so much pain i needed panadeine just to make it manageable - rang DH in tears cos i couldn't sleep (he was working anyway) - and then felt bad cos i didn't want him stressing about me! i am still very very sore this morning - feel like i've had a size 12 boot stomped into my lower tum - but at least she is here, so i've started the HRT now - it's a step forward (sorry, cannot force myself to say it's a positive step at this point - far too ouchy!)
really want to stay home with my heat pack today and just hate the fact that i'm female but i'm going to take myself off to work (with a stash of panadeine) and just see how far i can go before it's "too much" - i'm sure i can get myself sent home if i mention "girlie problems" to a male supervisor - what do you think ?? :p
Was going to say better late than never... but sounds like that's far from the case! Perhaps I'll just settle for trust you to do something completely against expectations again. Despite the pain you are in, I do hope that this at least gives you more confidence in the cycle ahead. Take care, BG. I really hope the panadeine does the trick.
BW
I know it doesn't feel like it right now :rolleyes: , but yay on AF, BG xxx
Now you can get this cycle started ;)
Nothing new happening with me - Will post with BT results when I get them...
BeiBei - 6 from 8 is a great result - Hoping they're all dividing nicely and getting ready to go back in soon :)
Big hi to everyone else :D
Oh BG sorry to hear AF is being a biatch... but it is good news hun it means your system gets a clean out before 9 long months of pregnancy! Hope the Panadeine is working :hug:
I am so disappointed and angry at my ovaries. useless bastard things they are. I hate them!!!! They never behave as they are supposed to. I would have thought that PCOS would be something that most FS can overcome now but its so unpredictable it makes that difficult and it frustrates the hell out of me.
I am trying not to think about all the what ifs, I went form almost being cancelled for OVER stimming last cycle, to the same potential for this one for UNDER stimming. Its really not fair. I am just trying to wait til Friday. No point worrying, it might never happen. Easier said than done though, right? Bugger!!!!
woo hoo - i survived all day at work - PLUS an extra 40minutes! i'm so very proud of myself! it's taken a mammoth effort, and i'm completely exhausted now - but i made it.
As painful as she's been, i'm not too upset that AF is here - i guess i'm kinda ok with the fact that, although lot slower than it should have been, my body DID eventually do what it was supposed to do! PLUS, the fs is finally starting to take notice that my body doesn't play the game like it should - i'm supposed to have been on progynova 4mg for a week, then increase it to 6mg til transfer - but he's got me on 6mg from the start so at least he's putting a little bit of thought in there to how MY body is likely to respond... it's a start i guess...
Hi BG
That is great news that you are one more step forward and increasing your dose sounds like a good idea now that your FS is actually listening to you!
Have an easy night tonight... you have had a pretty stressful few days so heat pack and a movie sounds like a great way for BG to de-stress and relax!
Take care hun,
xxx
Hi Kell
That is a bummer about under stimming this cycle... I don't have PCOS (well as far as I know - next week I might tell you something different) but I know all about under stimming. My first cycle we only got 1 egg - no fert and second cycle - 3 eggs but only 1 fert. I almost wished for over stimming to try to increase our chances of fert.
I hope all goes well for you on Friday.
xx
Hey BW - did you say something about a birthday this week??
hi chez - i'm thinking this little BG will be having dinner, followed by hot chocolate, heat pack - and snuggles on the couch or in bed - not sure if it will be movie, idiot box - or a telephone call to DH to keep me company - still tying to work out what is most appealing!
BW is having her birthday tomorrow...
BG - that sounds like a perfect plan for tonight. Enjoy!
And thanks for the info on BW... ;)
:hello: Happy Birthday BW! :confetti:
Happy Birthday BW!! Hope you are having a great day today!!
Happy birthday BW!! :dance:
xx
Hi lovely ladies & Slyder
Went for pre-lap b/ts this morning on my way to work and since I am 5 days late I asked the nurse to add a pg test to the list of tests. She told me that my FS needed to approve that, so I phoned and left a message for her to arrange that with the lab.
But it seems my body is playing with my head, just did a KC and AF is just starting. I have had the sorest bbs for 2 weeks now - even worse then when I was on the crinone gel and I really felt that this WAS IT! :( So I guess that means it is all clear for my lap next week - yay (not)... would rather have had my FS ring me to cancel because of a +ive b/t! Oh well, I can only dream!
I hope everyone else is having a much better day than I am.
Take care all and I hope you all spend some time with your special someone tomorrow! :heartbeat::hug::heartbeat:
xxxx
grrrrrrrrrrrr - what is it with af showing up JUST after BT's - she's a witch!!!!
Oh Chez so sorry hun, that really sucks!!
Happy Valentines Day! I might have to be nice to DH today although this Provera is turning me into a whingy cranky wife (accidently swore.. opps sorry mods) .... and worse still is that i know im being a whingy wife etc !!
Shannon, provera turned me into a raging, hormonal mega-b!tch as well. I hated even being in the same room as myself when I was on it. Ten days? Hopefully they fly by super-fast!
BW
Thanks ladies... I had a few tears last night but DH was out at a work function so he missed the hormonal drama!
I have had another busy travelling interstate day for meetings today but am back home now. Time to make myself beautiful for a Valentine's Day dinner!
Hope you lovely ladies (& Slyder) have a great night tonight, if you are staying in for a cuddle!
xx
Have a great night, Chez :)
Many are not fans of Valentine's Day for the schmultz and commercialism, however it is interesting to note that in other countries it is celebrated quite differently where the day is actually more about friendship than tacky romance.
I just found this explanation which would support this sentiment nicely:
Valentine was imprisoned under Claudius II for his Christian beliefs, and while in jail, he restored the sight of his jailers' blind daughter through his faith and love for her.
Before his execution, on the Feb.14. AD 269, Valentine sent her a note signed "From your Valentine." This phrase became the everlasting symbol of friendship, affection and sharing with others.
So, in that spirit, I hope everyone had a lovely day- and thank you to all my Long Term TTC buddies for the friendship, affection and sharing through this long long journey to conception
oh mal that is beautiful
hi to all and hope everyone is good?
Hi everyone
Mel - I didn't know anything about the history behind Valentine's Day. What a wonderful sentiment. My chiro told me this morning that in Japan only the girls give Valentine's gifts (usually chocolates). On March 14 is White Day which is the time that the guys decide whether to give a gift in return to their Valentine. Since DF didn't get me flowers this year because I was travelling interstate, I told him about White Day - he didn't seem that interested! Oh well, can't complain, he does surprise me with flowers throughout the year without having to wait for special calendar days.
I had a lousy day yesterday, migraine and nausea so ended up coming home from work after being there for about an hour. Everyone could see I was sick and insisted I go home - what a nice bunch they are! Anyway, I slept for ages and ages - 20 hours of 24! So I must have been tired! My chiro gave me a good talking to about listening more to my body (working too hard) and not eating properly, which is a function of a lot of travel, and getting back into some regular exercise.
I hope everyone is having a great weekend. It will be a quiet one for us... maybe a movie tomorrow. Take care all, BBL
xxxx
oh chez you really must look after your diet! since being on the NP diet i have felt great. not to mention i am going to the toilet everyday!!!(before would be nearly two weeks without!)
i know how hard it must be when traveling though. eating out with friends is hard enough!
meals are never restricted - for example tonight we had just made home made spring rolls with home grown veggies and lemon grass, chillies, garlic, corrianda, and shop ginger, haven't made them for ages! and DH has made his special sangria! yum and a bit tipsy too!!!hehe. (sangria not on the diet list but hey, isn't that what you do when your not cycling. I hope you are feeling better soon
went out today and bought a dishwasher and oven for our kitchen reno. got to get it done before i go to uni and am broke! lol
Megan - where are you ???
BW - fantastic TF has been looking forward to hearing your news soon (i have a feeling for you this cycle)
BG - you may only be a week ahead of me - when do you see FS again - i was very surprised with his assistance for my next cycle - i hope you get the same response.
Ellie - hurry up and get your Internet connected - i miss our chats hun
Shannon - where you at hun? hope your coming through the other side feeling a bit better (and nicer?)
BB - how did you get on? im so sorry your body is playing tricks on you sending you lots of hugs.
Holly - have a fab holiday, will speak soon, give Luke a squeeze
xx
i don't have any appointments booked PP - although i'm sure i'll see him for transfer in a couple of weeks...
Mel thats a fantastic Valentines Day Story!
Chez - Dont make is give you a butt kicking! Look after yourself and i am very glad they sent you home to catch up on some sleep :) My memory is a little dodgy is your lap this week? If so goo dluck hun and rest up!
PP - Ohh spring rolls sounds yummy! And yep thats what you have to do between cycles... its almost mandatory!
BW - Hope everything is going well and you have transferred and are lirking reading... know im thinking of you and have everything crossed.
BW - How is the HRT treating you?
Big hi to everyone i know ive been slack... will try and stay more on top of things :)
Not much happening here except completely falling off ny diet and healthy living bandwagon... and feeling really crap for it which should be good incentive to get my ass back on track!
10 days of provera down and 4 more to go... i really cant wait for it to be over.
Except then the clomid starts... so i go from cranky to insanely emotional and clingy. Poor DH :)
One other thing thats odd is DH has become really angry a few times lately, not at me but at IVF and goes from being really quiet for a few days and doesn't want to talk about IVF at all, and then when i finally push the right button tells me how angry and frustrated he is. Which is all ok, but im just finding it odd that after 3 years TTC & almost 2 years of AC this anger has arisen now and never before (well never verbalised before).. just wondering if you have any similar experiences?
Have a great week ladies and slyder (btw hope DH is doing fab with her FET)
hehehe - the identity crisis strikes again!!:
Shannon - "BG" is doing really well on the HRT - it seems to have bought me back to a level of normalcy that i had lost out on with the Pill - to be honest, there was an oppressive level of depression on the pill, and had given up hope on this cycle before it even started really. now i'm much calmer and more positive about the whole deal - in fact, i think i'm starting to get excited - in the next four weeks, i'll have a gorgeous pair of embies on board!!
shannon, we're nearing the 3 year mark (this Thursday to be exact) on our TTC journey - and it's over 2 years since we started on the AC testing bandwagon, so i know how you're feeling. surprisingly, your DH isn't the only one getting more verbal - my DH has expressed his anger and frustration at the process more than once lately. i think some of it has been in response to my own hurt and frustration - and some of it because of the fact that he's away a fair bit and isn't here to be as supportive of me as he wants to be...:
Hi everyone
Just popping in quickly to say hello and let you know that my lap went well - no sign of any endo, so that is great news. Apparently the d&c did't go quite as well - couldn't dilate my cervix - apparently FS had to use the scope to get in as my cervix was clammed tightly shut. And then she found out it narrows quite a lot - she thinks this might be why the tfr didn't take because they weren't able to place the embie in the right spot. I will get more info at our follow up appt which is scheduled for mid April - I have had DF on the phone all afternoon to try to make it sooner but the phone just rings out!
Anyway, am still feeling woozy and tired and pain killers have worn off, but am holding out until bed time when I know I will need them. I am taking tomorrow off work and DF has got me some DVDs so I don't go completely stir crazy - I will then evaluate if I need wednesday off as well.
Take care all and I hope you are all doing well.
Oh and yes healthier eating plan was to start today but somehow DF stopped for icecream and chocolate on the way home to cheer me up... tomorrow then?
xx
Chez - glad to hear that you are feeling ok - frustrating about getting appointments when you have already got a 'little' answer to fuel more questions. i hope you get in earlier.
And the eating plan - tomorrow, even Wednesday sound like a good idea. enjoy xx