That is a good amount! Good luck with the transfer!:
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That is a good amount! Good luck with the transfer!:
Congrats on a good result with the OPU Lou - Im sure one of those littlies will hold on tight.... everything crossed for your success!
Well done Lou, hope you're feeling good & hoping the fertilisation goes well.
Will be watching for news.
How're you going Keen? Can I ask you, did you do the tests that Sue lists in the immunology thread.
Woohooo miss Lou... they are great numbers, i hope they all fertilise into sensational quality embies and you have a whole family in there..... sure will be alot of kids....
leis xx
HI Girls,
Sorry I have been in hiding as I hate the second week and for a good reason.... Day 12, 4am there she was!! Transfer number 8 a bust and I am over it, I honestly don't know how much more of this crap I can deal with right now and I know I am blessed to have 17 frostie bubs sitting there its taking its toll.
We are possibly thinking of looking into OS adoption while we keep cycling but know we have to stop once the process starts to happen, BUT in saying that I havent given up the hope yet.
Lots of :hug: :hug: s girls.
Shazz.
xx
Ok Girls I am back from Melbourne.
Only got back in late last night due to flight delays in Melbourne.
We saw Antonia on Monday, we had two sessions each, and she gave us some more herbs for DH and I. She seems such a beautiful lady. She is actually going to the Gold Coast later this month, for personal reasons and she asked if we could pop up to visit her, so she can give us another session. Thats what I call service!
She did say that I would become a mumma again, but not for a few months (Maybe 5-6 months). I think I do believe her, as she said if she thinks she can't help someone she will tell them.
Anyway I think it is about time that we had some BFP's in here
Luv to all
Ann :hello:
Ann, glad you were happy with Antonia. Was she $$$.... anyway i am sure her herbs will help you with your BFP that i am sure is just around the corner....leis xx
Oh s#it Shaz.. sorry hun, i missed your post... I am sorry that you got ripped off again, and the old b*tch showed up... at 4 am, who does she think she is...
I have often thought of o/s adoption too, but my DH isn't keen on the idea. To me I would rather adopt than go through ivf again. I have only ever been through one cycle, but i hate the heart ache and constant disappointment of TTC. If DH was keen and adoption wasn't such an 'ordeal' i would love to do it. I think i would probably need to do more IVF before we were allegible anyway...
take care hun.. leis xx
Ann - Im glad you finally saw her! And you should believe her as she is usually right - and I know of a couple of girls where Antonia has said the same thing and after 5-6 months - they were pg. One of them is going to give birth in a few weeks after being told not even ivf will help! She is such a wonderful and caring woman who's mission is to help others have children, and she will go out of her way (like asking you to see her when she is in qld). I hope you find much happiness and success with her.
Im off to see her tonight!
Take care lovely ladies and I wish you all nice BFP's soon :)
Shaz,
I am so sorry hunny for the arrival of that stupid witch. I can't even begin to imagine what you're going through. It's so unfair that we go through all this only to come away with nothing.
I hope that in one way or another, you'll have the baby you dream of. Please know I'm thinking of you, matey.
Shaz, so sorry to hear the rotten news. Take care and thinking of you. :hug:
Marg
Tam - yep I have had the immunology tests that Sue listed. How are you coming along sweetie??
We are now looking at a few others things for a bit, just to ensure no underlying health issue causing our dramas and then we are going for another stim cycle. Our chance of success is very low, but if we dont try, at least just once again, well, I dont know but we just feel we have to...
Shaz - so sorry sweetheart. So unfair!Be sure to let us know what you find out about the OS adoption. It is so awful that we have to sign something saying we will not do IVF, etc when those who can conceive dont have to sign something saying they will not have any more children - you would think they would be throwing these poor kids at loving parents... just another infertility discrimination, I guess...
Ann - you know Im desperately hoping for your success sweetheart... lets hope these herbs and Ms Ruhl do the trick - be sure to keep us up to date on what happens. Has she given you any specifics on what she is treating with the herbs? just curious more than anything...
Leis - I dont think you have to do any IVF at all to be eligible for OS adoption.
Thankyou so much for the support girls, you are such lovely women. I went for my beta today and we have jumped straight on the crazy train and am going to get in a FET before Christmas. Normally due to my job I would never do it before chrissy (retail management) but I feel I need to do this.
So call me crazy but here we go lol, I go for a scan next fri to check lining as we are doing a natural FET and if nothing has happened as in lining wise then they will switch me to a HRT cycle.
Hugs
Shazz.
xx
Get right back on that horse Shazz! Good on you! If it feels right do it. You know what DH and you need to do! Thinking of you and best of luck!
Good on you Shazz! I find in this game you never know what you are going to do until your there IYKWIM?? Really hope you get a wonderful chrissy present... Perhaps we will be going through a cycle around similar times and we can both escape! ;)
Hi Keen and all of the other lovely ladies here,
Ms Ruhl gave hubby some herbs to help improve his sperm, as he has 100% abnormal sperm. It was funny though, after Ms Ruhl wanted to know all about our failed IVF attemps, she asked me if I felt the cold, which I do, unless it is like 35 degrees, I'm cold. After telling her that all of our embryo's are "text book Embyies" (as the Dr's keep teling us), she said that I have a cold uterus, with poor circulation, and thats why embyies fail to implant! Now thats something I have never thought of before, but hey makes sense to me. So we will keep taking the herbs, and I have some cream to rub in and hopfully one day we will be pg. Next FET transfer is 28th Nov, this is our last IVF cycle. Ms Ruhl did ask us to give her herbs a try for at least 3 months after this last cycle.
I look at it this way, it can't hurt, and you never know!
Luv to all
Ann :pray:
Ann
Good luck sweets. She is so good isnt she?? I was there yesterday and I always feel better once ive been to her office, especially when girls are calling to say they are pg. Ive seen so many of them with my own eyes and I cant wait for us to have our turn to call her and tell her we have bfp's. Well she will be in qld next week and wants me to call her on her mobile if im *late* - oh sweet is that. Good luck with the herbs and remember as bad as they might taste - its all worth it. Are you using the ones you have to take in vodka shots??
PS - a newbie has joined 'babymagic' who is 9 weeks pg after using Ant's herbs for 3 months!! And she was ttc for 2 years with PCOS.
It was really strange, since I was taking the herbs(with vodka) I wasn't sleeping, my day would start at 2.30 am, no kidding! I just put it down to the stresses of life etc...
Antonia asked me on Monday if I had noticed any differences since taking the herbs, I said no except for the fact I can't sleep past 2.30am, it was the herbs so now I take them in the am (as a tea) and I sleep like a... wait for it ... a baby!
DH takes three lots of herbs.
I must say when we were there a lady rang to say that she was pg.
PS Oh Lisa I hope you are late, IYKWIM
The first session with her DH got the buzz, I didn't. Second session I buzzed like a bee!
I don't hold out much hope for a +ive from our next FET cycle, but for some strange reason, and I don't know why I do feel that we will get what we want some time in the near future, and I haven't felt this way in such a long, long time!
Ann :hello:
Ann im intreaged what was it that gave you 'the buzz'.
Im really thinking about going and meeting Antonia but frightened that she will say she cant help me. IYKWIM!
I already see a np at Melbourne Holistic Health and she is fantastic but just would be interested with Antonia's approach
Ann - I take mine at night and it makes me sleep like a baby!! I felt full of hope to with Antonia and I know that she will help me achieve my dream of motherhood so Im not as stressed about ttc anymore. I hope im late too, but not too hopeful of a bfp this month, maybe next month!
Lou - you can always have just one visit to talk to her and learn more about what she does, there is no obligation to go on the program but it will cost $120 for the first visit.
The "buzz' is your body's own electromagnetic energy that she stimulates during your visit, and when she touches you – you vibrate!! It really is amazing, and the more buzzing the better, it means your body is in balance.
Wishing all you wonderful women in this thread a bfp really soon
Lisa
Good luck with it all ann I really hope this is all you need!!
Hugs
Shazz.
xx
Lisa you make me laugh but i think i will try to make an appointment i know you said she will be away and i work full time but will give it all
Thanks again
I dont think DH will come with me though..........He thinks its all a load of rubbish going to NP and having reki. Prob as hes grown up with nurses all his life although there all into NP !!?Just dont get him sometimes. Will Antonia mind if DH doesnt come?
hi all
still here and waiting. I've been snifffing for a week and just finished the pill on wednesday and now waiting for AF to turn up. Going for first scan next friday to make sure all is quiet down there.
How long after you guys stopped taking the pill did it take for AF to kick in? It feels like it wants to start, but nothing yet.
Other than that nothing to report. Surprisingly have coped better than I thought so far with the lack of hormones. My body is so sensitive normally - so was worried that I would be all over the place. Sure that will change when I start injecting - which should be after next weeks scan - fingers cross . Then I will feel like we are getting this show on the road!!!!
Good luck everyone else and keep smiling
take care
odette
Hello ladies I hope everyone has had a great week and has an even better weekend!!
Tam- Hugs to you honey.
Ann- great news on your visit with Antoina. Sound good mate!
Odette- great news on starting your Cycle. Sending you heaps of baby dust!
Loua- how are you doing? (I think I have missed were you are up to. tired but trying to catch up since being away!)
Keen- how are you doing?
Shazld- I am so sorry to hear of your last cycle. But excellent new of being able to junp right into your next. Sending you heaps of babydust too.
Thanks Loula and MElbel for your replies. I think my mind was racing when I was typing out my post. I was diagnoised with POCS in 1997. I was put on Metformin then and it made me really sick. So I stopped taking it. then with the first appointment at FS in 2002 I tried again and again it made me really ill. Then in 2004 when I started IVF my FS sujested to break a tab in half and start of a night. ( I had only ever been told to take in the morning prior to this) anyway that sort of worked. gave me heaps of side affects but I think due to giving up work i could cope better. So I have been on them since 2002. the only times I have not taken them is after epu. as I have come home and not eaten. and I have to eat when taking them or I am really sick. and once I miss one I am on the toliet the entire next day and cant cope with that right after epu. anyway found out only in feb this year that that could contribute to the M/C. My thoughts were just what one of you said. I know that Diabetics can do IVF and carry babies. Now if I am just insulan resistant why cant I? After leaving the sp I just have heaps of thoughts running through my mind. I would love to have myt levels be under 10 and not have POCS.( who wouldnt?) Also my Sp has down my metformin to 1000 a day not 1500 I was taking. And that doesnt make sence to me either. I do want to make a GP appointment and go over all my test results over the years so I can have a better understanding of it all. Only I went away now she is away... But as soon as I can that will be my first step. Again thank you for your replies
Hi Daisy
I hope you had a restful time away so wishing i could be away right now. I dont know if you read my post but my cycle was canciled. spent the night after EPU at Epworth on a morfin drip(sp?) and been taking painkillers at home ever since also taking antibiotics (2 different ones )The pain has eased now.
Went for a scan yesterday and they fornd a blood clot in my left ovary but said my body should absorbe it back again!!! and that i still have blood supply to the ovary.Yay.
Cant you believe this .............get ready for a winge.............My MIL sent me a txt a 8.00am this morning to say i will be seeing you at the birthday party!! Today two of my nephews are celebrating their 1st birthday and i was looking forward to going, but a)im still in a lot of pain, b) My last M/C should also be celebration their 1st birthday this weekend (It was hard enough seeing 2 SIL pg during this time IYKWIM and c)My DH is in Sale working and ill be buggered if im driving myself.
I know i can be a hypochonndriac at the best of times but i think when your waking up with pain through the night while taking Panadin Fort then you have good reason.
Feeling really S@!t at the mo. Why does something always come up and stop me from getting to have a H&H pg?
Hi Girls,
Odette, it takes me 4 days from the time I stop taking BCP until AF arrives. I am due to stop taking BCP next Tue, and then I'll be on this ride too.
Loula, Iwould be feeling like $hit, too, I just hope that you get throught the weekend with your sanity still intact.
Keen, Daisy, Lisa and Leis (sorry if I've missed anyone) I hope you all have a great weekend.
Ann :hug:
Daisy - honey hope you get some answers that you can work will really soon... So frustrating having no control over these things isnt it...
Ann - sounds like you are getting very excited and hopeful honey, which I know you havent been like in the years I have known you. Very happy for you. I have a question for you, what happens in the case where women cant drink alcohol? And what is it that the vodka does that helps??
If I am to be completely honest it all sounds a bit 'airy fairy' to me, but hey if either you or Lisa find success, Im sure I'll be going for a visit! I am a very sceptical person though, so its only natural that I wouldnt be sure of something until I saw some 'tangible' success (ie. from someone I trust like you). The whole 'buzz' thing sounds pretty weird! I bet that was a bizarre sensation!
Lou - totally understand how upsetting must be having to celebrate those birthdays when you dont get to celebrate the one you want to. I find it is getting harder and harder to just continue putting on the brave face and pretending its all ok. You do what you need to in order to look after you right now and dont let it stress you out! Tell them Dr Keen says you cant go! ;)
This year has been an absolute shocker for us health wise and TTC wise. Unfortunately my friends dont understand and are busy with their babies/children. I am a little afraid I might slowly lose a few of them. But right now I really have to focus on me and DH and getting us happy, healthy and a step closer to parenthood.
Good on you Keen
and thank you for your Kind words - i went to the party yesterday feeling very sore but managed to put on that brave face, one more time, I love both the littlie very much and i do see baba's every day (i work in childcare) so it not really that hard i guess.
I dont know if i mentioned the Gyn found a blood clot in my left ovary. she says it should be ok to go straight away again as soon as i get af. this is what i really want to do but is this best?
Its all so emotional your damed if yu dont and your damed if you do!!!IYKWIM?
so true Lou. That blood clot sounds a little concerning. For me I would be getting that addressed first, only because if you are successful you may not be able to have it addressed for the next 9 months and thats when it could be an issue IYKWIM? But it is completely up to you and I know how upsetting it is to have yet another setback!
Either way Im sure you will make the choice that is right for you... which is a b!tch of an answer because it means you have to make that decision, which really sucks!
Keen,
I agree with you, at first I thought it all sounded a bit weird! But this is our last IVF journey, and then thats it for us. I will try anything, and compared to IVF it wasn't that expensive. We have been TTC for 5 years, and to say the least I'm getting a bit sick of it all.
I don't have the herbs with Vodka anymore, I make a tea, and have it in the mornings.
Hoping everything gets sorted for you Keen, you deserve to get off this ride.
Luv to all
Ann :hug:
Yah,
I took my last BCP today, no more headaches!!!
Ann:)
Hi gals,
Hope your all doing well and doing reasonably well in the land of ltttc. It can be so hard and frustrating, and i havent been ttc for as long as some of you but this last year and a half feels like forever iykwim??
Just quickly - Lou - no she wont mind if dh doesnt come for the first consult!
Keen - honey im hopeful she can help me and ann achieve our dreams, she did it with one of my closest friends so Ive seen it from one of my most trusted sources, so i understand about you being sceptical right now. But im with ann, ill try anything, and I suppose im doing this before heading down the ivf road.
Wishing you all loads of luck
Lisa
Hi Girls,
Just thought I would pop in and say Hi!
Nothing much happening in my part of the world, just waiting for AF to show up, hopfully Sat. Nurse rang yesterday to tell me that if AF didn't arrive by Sun, I'm out for yet another cycle, so this bloody body of mine will do as it is supposed to,(or I will not be happy, it would have been 4 cycles I have missed due to the witch not showing up on time). But I am being hopefull.
Enjoying the nice rain, I hope they are getting it where they need it most.
Luv to all
Ann :hello:
PS Where have all the BFP's gone?
Hi Girls,
Need good thoughts for tomorrow, am going for my scan to check lining and if all not ok I will be switched to a artificial FET which I don't want.
Will update you tomorrow.
Big Hugs
Shazz.
xx
Hi all
got my scan tommorow to check lining as well - so lets hope that shazz and I get good results and can cycle together. If all got start injections tommorow! Yippee!!
Had a migrane for 5 days straight whilst AF - it was bad! Hopefully no more headaches when I start Pergon!
Did any of you guys get any side effects from pergon such as headaches? I am on 450mg to start which I guess is pretty high, but apparantely that is what worked last time - so here goes nothing!
Let you know how i go!
take care
odette
Shaz & Odette, hope your linings were ok. Exciting when you have someone to cycle with, good luck to you two.
Odette, I don't think I ever got side effects from the Puregon, well except for the end when the eggies are growing big. How exciting for you.
Hi to everyone else, hope all is going well. I'll call in again on the weekend
Ann - YAYE on no more BCP! I dont blame you one bit for trying with Antonia - I pray like mad it works for you too, sweetie. It is so hard when you can see the end of the TTC journey on the horizon, yet with no success... I really hope you and Lisa make it and are the success stories I am waiting to see, so I can be more confident to give it a burl too ;)
Lisa - can totally understand your being less skeptical after having seen a friend find success with her! Hope you have the same experience. Like you guys (you and Ann) I will try anything too - unfortunately recent events have shown surgery as an only option for any possibility - if at all. So I may not get to try Antonia, but will if there is a shot! I see you are struggling with the journey at the moment. :hugs: It is hard and especially when so few understand. Know that we are here for your venting needs anytime.
Odette - hope the lining is coming along well. I get headaches from the Puregon. But usually occurs very quickly after injection and lasts about an hour or so. I am usually on 75ui.
Shazz - hope the lining scan went well!
Oh Tam - look at your daughter - she is an angel! Hows things going with you at the moment??
Well due to some complications we wont be able to have another cycle until the new year - although may be able to start late December depending on how things work out but unlikely with my history of strong response to drugs as I would need close supervision and would be starting cycle on christmas day (if this cycle remains regular)... will have to just wait and see anyway...
Ah Keen,
If there was only some magic wand that I could wave for you!
AF arrived today Yahhhhh!!! Never thought I would be happy about saying that!
I hope you all enjoy the weekend
Blast transfer in 19 days
Ann
Hi Girls,
Went for my scan yesterday and I think some good news for a change lol. My lining is 6mm so still a little low but to our surprise including my nurses, I have a few follies with one being 14mm!! To those who don't know what it means with ivf it means its almost a mature egg. We only have my last natural FET to go off and comparing it this cycle is miles ahead with no follies last time, no lining early and O'ing on day 21.
I go back on Tuesday (which is a yr exactly that I found out I was pg) for another scan and in the mean time I have my ovulation tests which I start tomorrow and if we have lift off over the weekend I am to ring Melb IVF. She also commented that my ovaries are still swollen but looking ok.
I'm just in shock cause my ovaries had follies on them LMAO!!
Hugs
Shazz.
xx