Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - August 2007 #2

Hi everyone,

We've been away for a short break as DH and I were both getting rather stressed and feeling like we were running out of options. So we decided to do something crazy and take off at short notice. Went to QLD for a little sunshine and to regroup. Feeling much better and motivated to keep going no matter what.
One of my friends pointed me to Antonia Ruhl, a Brazilian herbalist. We'll be seeing her next week. We are quite excited as we've heard several good stories about her. Will keep you posted how we go.

Still catching up with all the posts. You guys have been busy.

Congratulations Ellie. Good luck to everyone with their journey.

Rols, WOW at 23 follies! Hope the trigger shot goes smoothly tomorrow night.

Cheryl, so sorry that this cycle wasn't the one. thinking of you.

lou, good to hear that you are feeling normal now :)

happymel, EPU tomorrow! hope all goes well, will be thinking of you

BIG hello to everyone else, hope you are all well :)

Nic

Leeshie, my DW is (was) the same. Couldn't have a blood test or any other needle without having a mental meltdown. You should see the transformation now. She turns up to her blood tests with barely any obvious nerves, and takes the needles every night like it is as trivial as blowing your nose. I'm still quite amazed by this transformation. The point being, your mind goes to new stronger places when you are so focused on something. If she can do it, you can too.

And they (the needles) really aren't anywhere near as bad as you think. Honestly. Put a bit of ice on the area for a few minutes beforehand, and you'll be lucky to feel it.

Good luck tomorrow Mel.

Hi Nic, Kerri, Ellie, and everyone else.

Thanks for the confidence in me Rols. My aim is not to pass out tomorrow at the clinic!!
Plus good tip about the ice prior to injection.. i'll definately use that.

hiya Leeshie - and welcome hun

you've come to the best place for support through this journey - we've all been at that starting point where everything is as scary as hell, and with the help of the lovely people in here, we've survived and even moved on to being the supporters rather than the supported! if you have any IUI related questions, ask away hun - by the sounds of it, you're going to be going through ovulation induction using injections, which is a very similar process to IVF, but those of us on IUI don't have to go to egg pick up after trigger shot... feel free to pm me any questions - i'm ust about to start the 5th cycle of IUI this year...

as for me - FS appointment today confirmed that the BFP last week was a chemical pregnancy and is all over now. we're going to give IUI another shot (after at least getting a BFP last week, we know that it's working) - which we'll start with next week (could have started today - but DH is going away for work again this weekend for another week - always seems to happen when we're about to start a cycle - talk about timing!) - the whole story is in my journal if you want to check it out - too much to type again here!

to everyone else - so sorry for the lack of personals - big day today and in brain overload! will be back later

G'day BG, am about to visit your journal.

Leeshie, that was always DW's aim - not to pass out, and on several occasions prior to (and unrelated to) IVF she very nearly did. I made her faint once talking about a needle. Seriously, I can just about guarantee that after a few home needles and BTs you wont be very worried about it at all. I know the needles were one of our biggest concerns, but it's ended up being easy just about every time. In our case I do all the needles so it's one less thing for DW to have to worry about - ie. she just comes into the bedroom at 8.30 and I'm ready to go. If your bloke is OK with needles it may be something to think about.

DW is now daring me to stick myself with one of the spare empty Lucrin syringes (Lucrin finished as of now!) to see if I am up to it!

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DW is now daring me to stick myself with one of the spare empty Lucrin syringes (Lucrin finished as of now!) to see if I am up to it!

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and are you that brave?? lol

not that it would be the same - the needle is the easy bit - it's the fluid going in that is the slightly uncomfy bit

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not that it would be the same - the needle is the easy bit - it's the fluid going in that is the slightly uncomfy bit

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Don't say that! Then she'll have it over me!

Truth is, she knows if she dares me I can't help myself. If I don't she will call me a pansy and a sook. She's a hard girl.

PMSL Rols, so did you do it? I dared my DH to have a sniff of my Synarel and he did... then whinged about it for ages LOL.

BG - Am going to check out your journal now

Nic

oh nic that is so funny that your dh sniffed the synarel lol.
rols i to am pmsl i want to no if you did it???
welcome to you leeshie best of luk to you for your cycle i to am about to start my 1st cycle of ivf so good luk

I had the biggest laugh at him Smithy! then he started freaking out that it may have "damaged" him in some way and made me google it and he freaked out even more LOL!

Nic

isn't synarel used in males for some reason nic??

can't remember - maybe it was the puregon i seen mentioned for males...

your poor hubby - i can imagine he would have been stressing - but at least now he knows why you pull faces at the taste! :)

Hi girls, I accidently posted in the TWW thread yesterday but just wanted to introduce myself and hope you don't mind me joining you. We're 15 months down the TTC road and after last month's assessment cycle, a few challenges were found and we're starting IUI next cycle (end August/early Sept). I'm still hoping for a fluke of a BFP this cycle ! I'm a bit nervous about the whole process including needles - does anyone here get their DH to do the needles, I'm considering that because I just dont think I could bring myself to do it. Also, does it sound right that my clinic in their documentation on IUI wrote that their 2006 statistics for IUI success first cycle were 9% partner and 22% donor insemination ... what the?!? that seems awfully low. :( Has anyone else been told that by their FS, or heard of better statistics?? (Maybe I should change clinics !!! :angry: )

Leeshie, I'll be with you on the new to needles thing. Best of luck with it ! HOpefully this will be your one and only cycle dealing with the needles! :crossfingers:

A big :hello: to you all and I look forward to getting to know you in the near future. BFP vibes to one and all !!!!

Yeah BG, when I googled it, it said that it can be used in males, (think it might have something to do with cancer??) but there was something about using too much of it...and i can't really remember.
He was just being a worry wart, especially as he is going to do another SA, (3rd one) sometime next week hopefully. He is also going for his first ever blood test at 31.


Nic

hiya deni

welcome to the thread hun!

IUI wise, we were told around 20-25% success rate - which i don't think is unreasonable - i guess it matches up with the success rates for natural conception

re the needles, i think most of us do our own, although our trusty male influence Rols give his wife the injections each night cos she was a little needle phobic to start out - it's really not as scary as it seems when you start out!

good luck hun - hoping you get your miracle bfp

We were told the same as BG, around 20%, generally the same as natural conception but you are probably able to pinpoint ovulation a bit better.
Goodluck!

Nic

Good Morning

Hahaha i am glad im not the only one who feels like daring their DH to take a needle for the team! Unfortunately we are both petrified of needles i definately can't give them to myself (i tried and was hysterical for an hour!) so DH gives me mine and i am ok with that so long as he doesn't hesitate or forget to dial up the drugs! Argghhh but he absolutely refuses to give the trigger injections (big chicken!) so that job falls to the MIL (im sure she loves it!). Although i never thought of the ice thing before great idea Rols!

Happymel - Good luck today with EPU, hope everything goes smoothly and you are feeling great this afternoon with lots of eggies!

Rols - you crack me up! Don't stress about the fertilisation just remember while you may not have the normal 20 mil or more you only need 23 good ones! You will be fine my husband has dodgier morphology/count/motility than you and we had no problem with ICSI.

Lou - Nice to see you pop in again and im glad you are feeling so good! :)

As for us not much babymaking wise still waiting for AF should be in about a week or so away, i can't wait to get started again although not looking forward to 10 days on synarel with no injections..... hot flushes here i come! DH may need to move out i get very clingy! And the poor thing he got a new job on Tuesday with a great payrise so living on 1 income will be a lot easier if i ever get to have maternity leave but his first week will be when i start the synarel... hehe.

Good luck everyone esp those girls sniffing, injecting, picking up, transferring and in the TWW!

Shan

Thanks Deni.
let's hope this month is a fluke BFP and you wont have to venture down this track, but if it isn't at least you know your not alone.

Thanks for everyone's confidence in me. I am going to be extra brave at today's clinic appointment and hopefully this time there will be no nurses asking me if I need an ice pack for my head and a lie down!!

Briggsy's girl thanks for your lovley note. I'm going to spend some time today reading your journal. I am sorry to read that your last cycle resulted in a chemical pregnancy. It must be such a rollercoaster thinking you are, only to find out that your not... I wish you all the luck for your next attempt.

Rols, make sure you let us know how everything goes with DW.

Nic & Smithy - nah haven't done it yet, it will be one of those ongoing dares until she wears me down.

As for IVF drugs and males, the Puregon is used to treat a few reproductive type disorders (developmental I think) in males. Don't know about the others. There's no way you'd catch me sniffing Synarel that's for sure. I might grown an unwanted ovary and DW has more than enough for both of us at the moment.

Hi Deni and welcome. I think a couple of pages back I mentioned our needle situation, and if you do a search of my posts there will other references from earlier. But as BG said, DW is not a needle fan club member, and I therefore offered to look after it. Basically, she'd nearly faint talking about needles and would need all sorts of distraction tricks to have BTs in the past. However, she had another BT this morning and such is her total lack of carefactor any more that she forgot to mention it when she rang me this morning, and then when I asked her, her attitude was like "oh yeah, fine, whatever, and as I was saying...". The turn around in her attitude has been amazing. As I said to Leeshie recently, when you're faced with circumstances and you're very focussed on the outcome, a lot of the mental stuff gets sorted out fairly quickly I think. It's really nowhere near as bad as you might think and I know that DW was very concerned about all the needles before we started IVF.

The reason I've continued to do the needles is just simply so DW doesn't stress about them and have to prepare them etc. I'm quite happy doing it all for her and it makes me feel slightly less guilty about putting her through all of this in the first place. She reckons it's a big help so that's good enough for me.

Shannon, thanks for your encouraging words and it's actually made me feel a lot better. It's just biology as I keep telling myself! I don't understand how a heart can beat nonstop for 80+ years, but it does, and so it follows (At least in my mind) that it can't be that hard for sperm to do its thing. It's just typical of me, if I don't get how something works I get dubious about it.

Thanks for the warm welcome guys.
Leeshie, have you started your needles yet? Is it Puregon you'll be taking?

Rols, it's lovely you're able to help your DW with those things. I think my DH has taken it on board too as something he'll be able to be "involved" in - and he's been in the past fly in/fly out for a mining job but only recently has taken a long stint of leave and is moving to a Perth based job so I'm so thrilled he'll be around for all of this to make things easier.

It's friday, Yippee!! have a good weekend everyone. Best wishes to all undergoing procedures in the next few days !

Hi everyone, thanks for all the good wishes! Well, just quick note for now, feeling sleepy ++. I got big surprise.... 12 eggs. Ha, what do those nurses think they're doing!! Heee. Already down to 11, and from that 8 are great, 3 not as good but will have to wait and see how they're are going tomorrow. The scientist even said DH seprm looked good, hmm, DH and i are like, WTF!!!
Was a long morning, feeling really crampy, the nurse cut me with a pair of scissors, the whole process was totally diff than last time.... and well i dont think i ever want to see Hunter's Hill hosp ever again!! (apart from t/f!!). Will tell more later, but was totally unhappy with it all.
Hope everyone is well, message later, Mel

YAY Mel...great result..looking forward to the details?

Awesome Mel, good job and congratulations. Take it easy and I'm sure I can say that we are all looking forward to hearing the rest of the story.

Hi All,

Haven't posted on this particular thread before but I see some familar faces from lurking around other threads.:D

As a short intro I am on my second IVF cycle, first one having been cancelled as I overdid the follie factory bit and ended up with an eostregen count over 22000! though lucky for me no OHSS side effects.

I am taking my last Puregon and Pregnyl shots tonight and EPU on Monday at 8am. Sounds a bit silly but as I didn't even get that far last time I am so estactic I think the nurse thought I'd lost it when she called to confirm EPU after my BT's today. I think I might have deafened her on the phone!

I've seen lots of posts about the needles...have to do my own as DH would faint (Rols - good job there - I'm suitably impressed). Anyone on the pregnyl would remember there is a big thick attachment to suck the fluid up with..I told DH that was the needle and could he please give it to me......well I have to get my fun somewhere and I didn't know humans could go that green!:cryinglaugh: DH's contribution to this exercise (apart from the obvious of course) is to tell me how brave I am and he wishes he could take my place (Like I believe that!).

Mel - congratulations..fingers crossed for ET.

To everyone - :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl::bluedust::bfp:

Cheers
Shelly

Mel, Yay for all your eggies, looking forward to hear from you tomorrow as to how they're doing :)

Shelly,Hope all goes well on Monday for EPU.

Nic

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Just a quick little post from me... had my second round of blood tests today, and haven't really recovered. I'm normally find with blood tests and have no problems what so ever - was used to regular blood tests long before we started IVF... Today's problem was that they took 11 vials of blood! A fasting blood test, then 11 vials! I've been rather faint and wobbly at work ever since even though I'm trying to eat, drink and rest as much as possible.

Hello and a big welcome to the new folk - I promise to catch up properly later.

BW

BW - I was the same...I only had 9 vials but it really messed me up for the rest of the day...drink lots and rest up xxx

11 vials! That stinks.

Shelly, we're at the same stage basically. Final Puregon tonight and Pregnyl trigger (0.6ml reduced dosage coz DW's levels high at BT today) and EPU Sunday morning 0945.

When looking at the Pregnyl drawing/mixing needle, I initially forgot what its purpose was. I nearly crapped myself at the thought of trying to push that one in.

Ouchies BW, 11 vials! No wonder you're feeling faint.

Nic

Good Morming!

Firstly Mel that is a fantastic result!! Yay!! Hope your feeling ok after yesterday!

BW - Rest up 11 vials yuck, were they testing chromosones and blood clotting disorders etc??

Welcome Shelly Good luck with EPU on Monday and welcome!

Also hope those triggers went well yesterday,, rols and Shelley.

Shan

Hi all- Rols i think its great that you are able to share in some of the work that IVF brings.Good luck with EPU tomorrow.
BW- blood tests are never nice i sure dont enjoy them.
Mel- thats awesome news darl you should be pretty over the moon about that.
Big :HELLO: to any new comers and sorry if ive missed anyone else.
Me- I had my second ultrasound yesterday and the final count was 22 follies.I was meant to have EPU on monday or tuesday but they have have put it back til thursdays. They are all still trying to grow big and strong. The nurse said cause i have so many and there not to far apart in size they dont just want to waste the smaller ones. They want to be able to give them a chance to catch up to the rest. My levels arent to high so i guess there able to wait abit longer. 9 are between 15 and 13mm and the rest are at 10mm. Another scan on monday to make sure its the real deal for thursday. Im so ready to get off this rollercoaster cause this hole thing is really doing my head in. Anyway thats enough from me, better be off now
Take care and all the best to everyone XX :goodluck::stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:

Mo5, hope things continue to progress well for you and the follies keep growing.

Trigger was fine. It went in easier than the Lucrin and DW didn't feel it, but she definitely felt the drug leaving the syringe. Not really bad or anything, but certainly not nice. DW had to ring the nurse though because we were unsure about the special directions we were given in relation to the instructions provided.

Anyway, it's all good practice for if/when she is pregnant because at the moment she can't bend over much and I am doing her shoelaces and stuff like that.

Got it in one, Shannon. These are the tests that we've gone to see a different FS to have done. Clotting disorders, etc. My mother didn't tell me until after the miscarriage that we have a family history of them, and my FS was too focused on the psychological side of things when we last saw him, so we've gone elsewhere to have them done. Next step from here is to start the pill in order to get to a point where I can have a hy-co-sy done, then back to see Dr S, and hopefully after that we can jump straight into seeing our regular FS and get started on another FET cycle.

Mumof5, you've got great follie numbers there - hopefully your EPU will go well when you get to it. I never asked them to count my follies, but I can tell you that I was damned uncomfortable before my 26 eggs were collected! Take it easy and rest up.

BW

Awww Rols how sweet it even brought a tear to my eye you doing your wifes laces up for her. I'm just having one of those days where anything i do,say or hear is making me cry. I remember my mum having to do my sandels up for me when i was pregnant with my daughter. Just wait till you have to shave her legs for her.lol.
BW- I'm feeling pretty big fat and bloated let me tell you. This kind of baby making is just no fun is it.

HI Everyone :D

Its been a little while - Things in here are moving so fast, too its hard to keep up!!!

I'll apologise in advance for those of you I miss accidently :rolleyes:

Mel - Yay on the number of eggs!!!
Things are sounding fantastic this time round... remember you always lose some, so your % still going is fantastic!!!
So great to hear that the nurse said your DH sperm looked great as well!!
Keep thinking positively sweetie!!!

Rols - Trigger done, excellent news!!
Your poor DW - she must be just so uncomfortable right now!!
Will all be worth it tomorrow, though!
Make sure you're right next to her when she comes out from EPU.. if shes anything like me, she'll be feeling very queasy in the tummy.. and light headed.
The first time its a little scary - She'll appreciated you being there with her. Mind you, she has does wonderfully with everything else so far, so she might be lucky and feel fine ;)
All the very best for tomorrow - Good Luck to you both xxx

Ellie - How are you going sweetie?? 2ww driving you insane yet???!!!! Your symptoms are sounding good, sweetie, I have everything crossed and then some for you for this cycle xxx

BW - Have been thinking about you over the last 2 days... won't go into too much detail, but have a read of my journal entry today... The appointment I had yesterday was extremely beneficial to me and my head... May be worth giving a go as well as the therapy... it was truly fantastic xxx

Shannon - Good luck starting the synarel again... its always a pleasure, isn't it???!!!
Poor DH starting the job at the same time.... What can you do??!!!

Nic - How are things with you?

MO5 - You poor thing - got to love the hormones throughout IVF... I was either spending my day crying or screaming - or both!!!
Not a lot of fun babymaking this way :rolleyes: but certainly will be worth it when you're fat and bloated for all of the right reasons :D
Don't stress about them stretching out EPU - Its good letting the follies coast a little longer... better than getting to EPU and getting a mass of immature eggs that won't fertilise! (This has happened to me twice now - They only realised it the second time - Good that your FS is onto it 1st time round!!) Thursday sounds great!

Kerri - So sorry I haven't chased up all of my posts re the natural therapies for you - How exciting you're seeing Antonia - I'm currently on my 3rd cycle with her, and am feeling really positive and happy.
You will just love her clinic when you go there - Such an amazing atmosphere and so buzzy (if thats even a word??!) - You will feel brilliant after you see her!
If you search her name here on BB you will read some amazing stories... LisaL is an Antonia success story and was due to have her baby yesterday!

Welcome to everyone new - I hope your stay in here is short and you guys can move on outta here!!!!

Me - Well, CD 17 of my 3rd cycle with Antonias tonics - Feeling really good.
Have been having my weekly AP and herbs, and yesterday had some ETT (Emotional Trauma Therapy) - It was truly amazing!
Antonia recommended this as she believes my subconcious is still blocked due to my horrific labour with Luke - and my 4 failed IVF cycles.
I won't bore you guys with the details of my history, but my journal has everything covered!!!
I am going back for a few more sessions.. and some hypnosis to clear my subconcious of fear & negative thoughts.
It was just great, and I can recommend it to anyone on this painful TTC & AC journey... I learnt a lot about myself, and it truly perks you back up again and keeps you positive to keep moving forward.
Well well worth it!

Big Hi to everyone I've missed!!
Hope everyone is doing great!

Love Holly
xxx :D

Hi everyone, thanks for all the good lucks and wishes.
The scientist called this am, 6 have fertilised- she said that's great! Hmmm, im like what...Anyway apparently was the same number as last time, so its just a matter of wait and see. We only need one or two, then we will be happy. 6 is good.
Just back track to yest. Things were totally diff than first time around- hey that was only in March! DH wasnt with me in Mar and he just thought this time was yukky! Ok, old hospital, i understand, but its private and pay a fortune for it all really. So last time, we (friend and I) got shown to a 4 bed room, not a lot of privacy but was ok. Had to walk into surgery- only had silly thongs on!! Well they didnt warn us. And we were wheeled back after op and rested in bed for couple hours. I was ok with that. Also had some privacy so if i was upset (just hormones!!!), it'd be ok. This time, we got taken to wrong room first, then to a day stay bit. Room with five sort of crappy recline chairs that had one chair next to them for partners. You could reach and touch the chairs next to you. First up there were only three couples, then five. And the nurse (wacko nurse), had put us in the wrong chair. So she said get up, come on and get over here. I was teary. I was so upset at the lack of privacy already. You know, if things were bad news and stuff, like not many eggs, there was no place to cry or hide or anything. Anyway so swapped chairs... The nurse did stuff that nurses do- she was loud and sorta arrogant- yelled your name out from out in the corridor. Like as if im going to answer to someone i dont know screaming my name out. NOt that im overly shy shy about my weight but we had to weigh ourselves in front of everyone, and then when she cut my arm band off she cut my finger. Went to surg and that was ok. Happy with result. Lady next to me got 4 eggs and i felt a little sad for her :( They pushed me in bed back to room and i had to get up and stand up and get into a chair. I had really bad cramps- like ouchies. Really sore. Have had more pain this time than last. So i had to try and draw my legs up whilst i ly in this silly chair. Hey, im sure my bum was hanging out in the theatre- afterwards anyway!! Could feel a cold breeze!! I asked for pain relief- she gave me 1 panadeine, then i had to ask for more. I hate to think if i had excruciating pain....
Later the scientist came and she took each couple away to a room, so that was at least a decent thing to do. I know things didnt go so well for one couple... im sad for them. Just the whole process was upsetting, and i dont ever want to see that hosp again. Im sorry for ranting on about this. I feel a little better about it all today. Just i dont understand. IVF is such a private thing, and i know i share my thoughts and emotions on here, but sometimes i feel like its made a mockery of. The nurse also yelled out at the start, come on everyone talk to each other. I felt so embarrassed... I want to share but not in a forced way, and the lack of privacy was horrible. Im not sure what other places are like....Ellie..any comments on Perth???? Hehehe.... But we love our FS and that's the important thing i guess.
Sorry everyone...i hope i havent bored you all.
Ellie- i hope that your wait is going fast, did you have your prog levels done today??
Holly- it sounds like you are happy. I hope things are going well, and that you get that deserved BFP soon :)
Rols, good luck for tomorrow, best wishes for you and your wife.
BW- i hope you are feeling better than yesterday, the vampires!! Im glad things are moving forward for you.
Mumoffive- wow lots of follies on board, just wait til Thurs, if you are already bloated now.... I agree, its no fun this way :(
Hi to Nic and Shannon, and to BG- (im sorry), and to Deni and Leeshie and Shellyd.
Lets hope for lots of good news and BFP's soon :)
Mel

Mel - OMG!!!!! That is just horrible! At our clinic you go to the 'day ward' where you have a cubile with a curtain around and you're in a bed etc...I cracked it over that lack of privacy as a parent from the school I was working at was in the same ward...so told the FS that I have top private health cover and want a private room next time...he said no worries and that's what we did! Gave us all the privacy in the world...DH didn't even need to use the 'little boys room' to do his bit..IYKWIM...lol...thank goodness for locks on the bathroom door hey!!! Least I got to 'help out' this time hehehe!!! It was so funny coz as the nurse was coming in the room to do all the admitting stuff I was runny off down the hall to make 'the delivery' of 'the magic stuff' to the clinic...she couldn't stop laughing! I did assure her I'd be coming back to 'do my bit'!!!

Enough rambling...have everything crossed for you huh...I feel a run of BFP's coming this way!

Holly - Thanks for thinking of me hun...all good here...just waiting. Levels are all good one week post transfer ...now one week till the big one!!!

Oh...and forgot to mention...I got home this afternoon and my MIL has sent me the most beautiful crystal cross necklace...this is the first time we've been totally up front with the whole family about what's going on and I'm blown away by how supportive they are all being...AMAZING!!!!

Hi to everyone else...I'm keeping and eye on you all and hoping to see you all in the TWW thread soon xxx

hi everyone i hope your all haveing a great weekend
well i just wanted to pop in to say best of luck to ROLES and his DW for tomorrow all the very best.
MUMO5, wow you hve a lot of follies on board there i hope they all grow nice and big for you hun all the very best to you for thursday
as for me well its finally here,today is the first day of my pill so im finally on the way:dance:i really feel excited now ive actually started even if it is just the pill..
to eveyone else i wish you all the luk in the world and here is to a heap of BFPs in here really soon have a great weekend

OMG Mel! WTF? you had a terrible treatment!!!

My clinic is public, but they are all so wonderful! on EPU they put Dh in waiting room with comfy chair and TV until i was all sorted with forms, id tags and gowning up. then i joined DH until they called us through to cubicle. i was popped onto a bed and my aneasthetist came and chatted with me and then my fs. then i was asked what i wanted to have when i woke up. i chose a lovely sandwich with all the trimmings (even avocado!) and then wheeled into surgery. when i awoke i was in a curtained cubicle. i was offered as much pain relief as i wanted. i was lucky enough not to need any, but apparently i already had some morphine in my system. they make you lay down for at least 1/2 hour in which time both my FS and anaesthetist both check on me. FS told me my number of eggs and gave me a re assuring smile and pat on the knee. Anaesthetist just checked on my pain levels and told me to have panadol to cope with the trip home. then i ate my yummy sandwich. then they called DH as he went out after i went into theatre. about 1 1/2 hours after EPU we were on our way home with heaps of instructions and encouragement.

sweetie, THIS is the way IVF should be. im so sorry you were given such primitive treatment. maybe ask FS if he/she treats elsewhere. my FS has 2 other hospitals.

take care everybody. hope to join you in a few days when AF decides to show. no suggestion of her visiting yet.