Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - August 2007

BW thanks very much.I admire how strong you are with everything you have gone thru. I do hope you get started again real soon.

Mel, you need to come back here and get some of this fresh country air in your lungs ;)

BW, my opinion, and feel free to ignore, is that you need to come to terms with seeing other people and their brats before you can be ready to start the journey again. You will get there in time, but if it's not on the next cycle, you need to be able to manage the baby cravings and seeing people in public who have what you want. Otherwise it becomes a very rocky road. See your pscyhologist first, even if it's only once. Like you say, it will keep your FS happy too.

Mumof5, I was surprised when we found out that DW had to do Lucrin first, then Lucrin and Puregon concurrently. Mu understanding is the Lucrin blocks the link between the brain and the ovaries, and then the Puregon artificially does what the brain does, except on a bigger scale.

Hi Mon, welcome! If you are interested in some of the more blokier posts to do with blokey issues, look at my post history. It may be of interest to your DH, and you. Then again I talk a lot of crap so it may not be.

Injections finished for tonight. DW not happy with Lucrin one but OK with Puregon. It's got me beaten, but what Shannon said is probably right to do with the body being sensitive after all these drugs.

DVD time.

I need to ask you all a question.Have any of you had any bleeding when on puregon and spray and what does it mean?? I just went to the toilet and i had this brown stuff like the end of a period??? Freaking out!!

mumof5, call your clinic in the morning and check with them. I think I had bleeding on just about every single drug I was given when I wasn't supposed to - except the puregon. If there's anything worrying you, it's best to ask the clinic nurses - they can check with the doctors and tell you what to do. I'm sure everything will be ok, especially if it's only brown spotting.

Rols, I think there may be an element of truth in what you said... when I step back and think about things rationally the answer is not yet. But the highly emotional part of my brain that we need to fix is the part that's screaming to go again now.

Forgot to say earlier - I've got most of my tests organised now. Have a fasting blood test to do tomorrow morning (what fun!), will go to St George on Tuesday (what an adventure that will be!). Then it will be a matter of going on the pill for a while. Looks like DH will do his SA next weekend, and probably 2-3 weeks away for the ultrasound I need to have. That one's probably going to be the unpleasant one. When I see it all set out like that it doesn't seem so bad.

BW

:wall: So much for the plan! Fasted this morning, got DH to take me in for the blood test... only to discover that they need dry ice for some of them, and they only have that delivered on Mondays and Fridays. With the collection centre not opening until 8am, and teaching first period Monday, there's no way I can get it done until Friday. Just the whole needing to eat before teaching thing, and having time on Friday to do that. Grrrrr... this is going to push things back at least another week!

BW

Mel, I am so sorry to hear about your bad news. I agree with Ellie - it is not fair sometimes. Spend some quality time with DH (this usually helps me cope). Just don't give up yet.

Ellie, I hope your visit was ok. I would have found that really hard. I find it bad enough just going out and seeing lots of people with babies I don't even know. I hope our transfer went well also.

Hi everyone else

Thanks Lauz
Visit was alot easier than I thought...he is sooooo cute...and of course only stopped crying while I was holding him (Aunty of the year lol!)...my brother and his partner both look like they've been to hell and back poor things....anyway it got all the maternal hormones gushing so I should be in the right place for transfer today...if we transfer...little blasties should be out of the freezer now...thaw little blasties thaw!

best of luck for today Ellie!:stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:

Thanks Sonya...I'm just sitting here waiting for our embryologist to phone...I was so cool about it all and now I'm suddenly stressed off my head...I'm so scared I'll fall apart if we can't transfer today...and if we do transfer I'm going to be like this for another 2 weeks...then till scan...it never ends does it!@?!

OMG OMG OMG!!!!!

Just got the call...both our little blasties have thawed...AND she said they look better than they did before they were frozen AND she was really surprised as she's never seen blasties look so good!!!!

SO 11.30am we transfer...this is the best chance yet right?! Oh...the relief!!!! Thank you so much everyone for getting me this far xxx

Good luck Ellie, i just looked at the time and how funny its 11:30.

best of luck Ellie - will be thinking of you today hun - all sounding brilliant so far

ok - i think it's time little miss BG fessed up - after my dr's appointment the other day, i came home and did a test - it was negative after 10 mins, so i figured that was it - but when DH got home a few minutes later, i had another look and there was a very faint second line! OMG! it's taken me two days to believe it's there, and i still don't really believe it (although after looking at the test at least a hundred times i KNOW it's really there) - we're cautiously excited and waiting on confirmation BT on Thursday!

sorry - that was very self absorbed, but i needed to let you all know!

YAY BG...it's all good...a line is a line...can't wait for Thursday!

BG - Taht's fantastic about the line, like Ellie asid, a line is a line! Can't wait for Thursday!

Ellie, YAY for your blasties, hope all went well with the transfer :)

Hi to everyone else, sorry for my lack of personals ATM, will tr to catch up later.

Nic

oh wow BG that is fantastic the same thing happened with my last pg i did a test at 3 weeks and 3 days at first there was no line but later went back to the bin just to make sur and there was the most faint line we could hardly see it.then went on to retest the day after and the line was a little darker went on for a BT and we were PG so i think you are hun best of luk to you and take care
A LINE IS A LINE:dance::dance:

Home safe and sound with blasties on board...FS checked that we were ok with having twins lol...feeling very hopeful...off to check out the TWW thread..thanks again everyone for your ongoing love and support xxx

That's great Ellie, i knew they would thaw great!! Here's to a quick 2ww!!! :stickyvibesboy: x2!!!
Lauz- thanks for your thoughts. I guess i just have to wait see....
Rols- everytime i get off the plane into that fresh air....is fantastic. I miss home at the moment, especially my mum :( DH and i have been down twice in last four months and has been great. Maybe one day we will settle down there, but there's not much really for me (as in work), there right now, or DH.
BG- sounds really promising, haha, i wonder how many more HPT's you will do before the blood test!!
Other news- we bought a puppy!!! Going to pick it up in Perth when we get there, exciting ++. A great dane!!
Hi to everyone else, hope things are going well.
Mel

Mel, I'm so sorry things have been rough for you. Don't ever think that you don't deserve love and support as much as anyone else. Please take care of yourself. And great news about the puppy!! Very jealous !

BG - wow you! You little dark horse :p Not sure how you manage to wait until Thursday, but i will keep toes all crossed for you!!!

Ellie - Stick little blasties...Stick, stick, stick!!!

BW - Your coping skills are awesome - All this frustration, but you manage to stay on track.

Hope everyone is well, especially all you quiet ones (you know who you are)
:hello: Jo

:p Jo, Wanna tell that to my FS? Spent the day with a little 7 week old bub - and did really well. No tears, no painful thoughts... I really think I'm in the right place to go again... I'm just not sure whether it's a permanent thing or not yet.

BW

Good on you BW!

I had a melt down yesterday before visiting the new nephew but was fine at the hospital...so you're doing heaps better than me and I've had my transfer today!!! I would have been waiting a long ime to be 'ready' so I decided that now we just keep going..TTC is just something we do now until it works...that was a huge turning point for DH and I...has really taken the pressure off...if you want to go again...DO IT!!!!

I agree with you Ellie- about knowing when you are ready. For us, it was really hard after the m/c. BW, i never thought id be ready again, i NEVER wanted to do ivf again. I just didnt understand. The feeling of losing that baby (and even though it was 8 weeks, it was still a baby to us), was just desperate. Not knowing when, how, why... I will never forget the baby that might have been, but honestly it didnt take all that long before we wanted to try again. Doing nothing, when you know ivf is the way it has to be, is hard. BW you will just know when you want to again. You will feel it, and you are such a strong person, and you are brave enough to face your FS and tell him you are ready, that is, when you are ready!! Thats great you spent time with a little bubba today. Just after i m/c i met my baby nephew for the first time. I cried when i saw him, now i just love him to bits. Im with you Ellie, we just have to keep going until it works, and if, for us, its not this cycle, then maybe it will be next. At least my expectations of how many follicles will be diff!
Hi Jo, thank you :) Hey and i see you bought your new house, i am way jealous!! Hope everything is going great for you.
Mel

Ellie, top work and well done. Really pleased for you.

BG, I thought you were acting dodgy, I had you sussed! Fingers crossed for good news with the BT.

Kotare, congrats on the house. At least you can get out of lifting heavy stuff!

Hi to the rest of the gang.

dodgy???

i should be offended, but i was acting a little suss! just had to get my head around things - i only spilled the beans today cos i just couldn't bring myself to lie to you guys, and there are only so many ways to stretch the truth or avoid the topic, before i had to admit to myself that i was being "dodgy" :)

Thanks Ellie and Mel... had a lovely dinner out tonight chatting with Sarah and Holly about things. I think then that I realised that while I can sit here and feel like I'm ready to go again, the thought of being in that transfer chair is just a little too confronting still. It's easy to feel like you're ready to go again when you are still so far away from it. I think I just need to keep reminding myself that I need the test results and I need to see the psychologist... The FS didn't put me through all that for fun and games, he put me through it all to make sure I wasn't going to end up in an even worse state of mind, and these are all the things that I've got to do first.

BG, I'm so glad you've 'fessed up at last. It's so hard sitting on news like that and needing to keep your mouth shut. I have to confess that I did end up telling Holly, but only because I'd assumed she'd have already read it here and she hadn't!

and now... I so desperately need sleep!

BW

Hi all
Im back from the best holiday in my life!!!!!
Congratulations to everyone with good news...how exciting
Well i just loved UK< france and Italy and i didnt want to come home to reality, i really forgot what it felt like to be carefree and be happy and not focus on one thing so much...it was wonderful
I obviiously still want a baby more than anything but at the moment i am pretty carefree, although as hubby didnt come on holiday he is stil stressed. He just had third SE test but the results are not in yet and we have our appointment on the 20th August to determine whether to start ivf or not....so will keep you all posted. I have made a decision though and iwe are going to try ivf once, if it doesnt work weare moving overseas for a year to chill out!!! Hubby agrees too yay
Anyway enough on me
Rols- hows it all going? when is the transfer? has it been easy?
Love to you all and lots of baby dust xo

Hi Everyone :D

Haven't been on much, as there had been lots happening to keep me busy at home - Nothing important, but sometimes its hard to get on here with enough time to write :rolleyes:

Ellie - Congratulations on the thaw and transfer... YOu must be just so happy!!!
It must have been such a relief to know the first step was great when they both thawed.. the nurse's comments in regards to them looking so strong is something to hold on to and keep positive for this cycle ;)

Sparkles - Wow, you sound so relaxed.. good for you! So glad you had a great time... good luck with the Sa test results!

BG - Posted in your journal this morning at 1am as soon as I got home :rolleyes:.. I am just so happy for you, and there really couldn't be anyone more deserved of this pregnancy... well done hun xxx

BW - So lovely to meet you last night and have a good chat... its fantastic putting faces to names and having conversations with people who get what you're going through!!! I had a fantastic night last night!

A big big hello to everyone else... I haven't posted for a few days, so sorry for my lack of personals!

Welcome to all of the new ladies :D

I know Kerrie asked me to point her in the right direction in regards to posts I've written about natural therapies.... Its almost every post!!!
I haven't had a lot of time, but will have a dig around today and see what I can find!
Otherwise, PM me and I'm more than happy to help with any questions, etc!!!

Hope everyone is great - Will pop back in later today and really catch up!

Love Holly
xxx :D

hi to eveyone,well im back again after a long wait for af after we lost our bub due to an ectopic pg.we found out we were pg the day before starting synerel last time and it was to be our first round of ivf but then we didnt need it,so since loosing our bub we are back again to try the ivf at SIVF NEWCASTLE we are very excited i will be starting the pill on the 18 august:dance:so i was wondering if i mite be able to join your thread thank you ladies take care and i wish you all the very best xxoo

HI everyone,

Rols it is great to hear that you & DW are doing okay with the IVF journey so far...fingers crossed that your DW gets a BFP first go!

BG - I have a good feeling about this week for you so bring on Thursday so we can be sure!

BW - I totally agree re:newborns everywhere. It doesn't matter where I go but I am astounded at the number of pregnant women & newborns...everywhere I look I see another. Not to mention that I have just found out that my friend is 13 wks pregnant with her second. I am very happy for her but a tad bit jealous that I could not give her some good news of my own yet.

Ellie - that is great news about your blasties...see you over in the TWW thread

Sparkles - welcome back! Happy to hear you had a wonderful time o/seas...just what you needed by the sounds of it.

Welcome Mon & Smithy :hello:

another self absorbed post for me

have started pretty badly today - looks like we will probably lose the pregnancy - will call the clinic in the morning to find out what they need me to do re BT's and things

sorry, not up for personals at the moment

Hi BG, just thought to let you know that don't lose hope until B/T confirm otherwise. I remember that in my cycle nurse told me still to keep up the medication etc. although I was bleeding at the time, she said the reason being some people can bleed because normally it would be the AF time, but the pregnancy can still continue...

Let us know how you go, praying and :crossfingers: for you...

BG, I come on here tonight and read the best news I could ever hope to read for you and then I get to your most recent post.... I'm so sorry. :( I have pretzeling big time that it will still be ok. Lots of sticky vibes coming your way. :hug:

Smithy, welcome. I am sorry for your loss. Here's hoping that this IVF cycle will bring you your bub. Looks like we will be doing our cycles together. :)

Just quickly, as I really should get to bed.... saw FS on Thursday to discuss our disaster of a cycle. As expected, he has no idea why the eggs didn't fertilise, and no idea why we only got 3 eggs. He is happy for me to start another cycle straight away. When I mentioned having twenty something follicles in the ultrasound and then getting only 3 eggs, he said something about there being a pattern of this lately. Not that it helps me much, but it seems like I'm not the only one. He still seems positive that it will happen, and I feel really comfortable with him so I am sticking with him for the time being. I think I was just angry with him for a day last week and it had me wanting to go to someone else for a minute!
Anyway, was expecting AF later this week, but surprisingly she turned up yesterday so I started the pill tonight. Here we go again.......already.
Hope everyong is well. Will be back tomorrow night to catch up properly.

oh thank you megan i wish you all the luck in the world hun for this cycle it will be good to have someone to go through this with take care

BG, very sorry to read about your news. Is the clinic going ahead with BT?

Hi Smithy and GL. If you fell pg prior to your first IVF cycle, are they not going to give you the chance to see if it could happen again?

Megan, glad you're getting straight back into it.

Sparkles, it's great you had such a good time on your holiday. Bit of a shame DH couldn't go I guess, but hopefully his stress levels reduce. Where do you think you'd live if you moved o/seas? Anyway, to answer your questions, we haven't really given a lot of thought to the transfer date as we don't want to be too presumptuous regarding successful EPU and fertilisation. That said, provided DW's levels continue to remain good, EPU will probably be towards the end of this week. I'm having a bit of trouble getting my head around my sperm actually being able to fertilise the egg/s as that just seems so huge, but then I remind myself that it's biology and that's what they do.

As far as whether it's been easy, obviously I can only speak for us as everyone has different experiences, but so far it hasn't been a problem at all. We're 75% or so of the way there with the needles and they have been fine, and DW has had two BTs both of which have been very quick and straightforward. Her body is responding as it should thus far, so we're hoping there wont be any hiccups along the way. From the perspective of daily life nothing has changed for us at all, and neither of us are any different from usual. But for you, if you guys do end up doing IVF my advice is to take it all one step at a time and don't be scared of it. If you can keep the mental side of things in check, the rest will follow.

Rols - i went to GP this morning, and spoke to the clinic as well - have had BT's coming out my ears. clinic are testing hormone levels as there is a very slim chance it may have held, but it's more a formality as they don't think it has held on. GP is checking blood grouping to see if i have rhesus negative factor (or something like that) - if i do, i have to have an injection on Wednesday - not sure of the technicalities but it's something to do with trying to prevent antibodies developing or something - it wouldn't be an issue if i knew what my blood group was - but i have no idea (how can i hit the age of 27, having had several types of surgery - and still have no idea what my blood group is??)

time for a new thread :)
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