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Thanks gorgeous. I'm sorry for sounding so negative and depressed in my post yesterday, I just got so down after doing that test, it's like all hope was taken away. Anyway, I didn't want to spoil your happy day, I would be on cloud nine too after hearing the cycle worked! Enjoy it Hun, there's nothing better in the world to know that the little embie is tucked away snugly in there and doing beautifully. Congrats again Hun, I wish you a happy and healthy pg ahead x
Miss B please don't stop the pessaries! Oh honey I'm so sorry you feel devastated but try and be positive - I don't think you should give up on your dream just yet but it's a very personal decision, so I just wanted to send you hugs...
AFM I'm on my way to clinic for transfer. I'm first. Yesterday they decided not to thaw my blastie this morning. My two day 3's when thawed, were 11 cells and 12 cells yesterday on day 4, and the embryologist was happy with both. I'm having my transfer under GA thanks to a retroverted uterus, my FS says he always has to 'dig around' so not looking forward to that bit.
Joski yay for o bleed! Xx
Good luck today 3rd time lucky, I hope all goes very smoothly. Are you transferring one? Xx
Miss B - I hope you are feeling a little brighter today. I agree don't give up just yet, big hugs to you xx
TT40 - Wow thanks for sharing how you tested those 3 days and each day was a BFN that is really encouraging to anyone who tests and doesn't get the result they are after. I think I am going to avoid testing with this cycle
Can I ask other than the cramping did you have any other symptoms? I know everyone is different but nice to know what to possibly look out for. So many women say to me you will just know, but I am not so sure
TTL - Good luck for your transfer today hun, sending love & light your way praying those little embies stick :) are you going to do complete bed rest for a few days? or just go about as per normal?
Juniper - thinking of you hun, hope to see some good news from you soon xx
Everyone else GL, FX for us all. Wishing you all a fabulous day x
Tuesday 1 April 2014 :goodluck:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
CatyO - taking a break
Kel82 - taking a break
Jo_white - saving for IVF
Bestrong - waiting for AF
Sarah4kurt - waiting for AF
1 More Please (Rai) - waiting for AF
Juniper76 - CD0
Emma09 - CD2
PositivelyGTC - CD5
Joski - CD20
Amy_jellybean - CD51
Glorious - CD57
Nothing2lose - CD68
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here... https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...4/index13.html )
Thirdtimelucky - CD18 0dp5dt
Miss.B - CD26 11dp4dt
Got their BFP in April :confetti:
TT40 - 28/3 hCG 240 @16dpo!!!
Worrywart - 29/3 +HPT @10, 31/3 hCG ??? @12dpo!!
M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Ceejelz, Babycakes
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3rdTL, GL for a smooth transfer!
Miss.B, sorry to hear the tests are BFN. :hug:
Afm, was woken early this morning by abdominal cramping/pain (lol, after being woken a few times through the night by foot cramps - it was apparently a big night for cramping!). Had some brown CM last night and this morning and more pain since getting up this morning, so still waiting to see if AF shows as expected (technically due tomorrow, but I'd expect it to start tonight) before testing again...
Pgtc - i had mid cycle.cramping and was very ****ed for a few days, everything was irritating the pants off me!
Ttl - goodluck!!
Miss b - hugs hun. All perfectly understandable,
Juniper - all my thoughts are with you and as with miss B in sending you big fat, virtual hugs. I so hope it's not AF on her way and that maybe the cramping is a good sign? When is your BT due?
Miss B - as I said already,i think you are one of the strongest women I know. You are always genuinely happy for anyone around you that gets a bfp and I think we can all admit sometimes, that's really tough... I just feel you'll get your final bubba, I don't know why but for as long as we have 'virtually' known each other, I've always felt it would happen for you. Because I am a strong believer in Karma and you always give so much of your heart.... (just ignore the logic in that comment - I know bad things happen to good people etc) I feel like that love will be returned to you and your dream will come true. We are all here for you (group hug icon here - I don't know how to make it work).
TT40 - I'm still on a total high for you:) Congratulations again, Miss B is right - that bfp is the most magical feeling in the world. You've earned it honey so squeeze every last bit of excitement, happiness and joy out of the moment that you can:)
Positively - I m really excited for you about your first FET!! I remember with my first FET feeling as though we were finally doing something positive about our fertility issues and it felt really empowering! I am interested also to hear of anyones experiences of 'feeling pg' during the 2ww after a transfer - because what I have realized in the last week since starting the progesterone pessaries - is that I sort of feel pregnant?? It's a very weird feeling because you know your not, but you have all the symptoms - sore boobies, uterine cramps, getting up to wee in the night 4 - 5 times, food cravings and aversions etc - I don't remember this happening in my first FET, but I am reminded by one of my old cycle buddies that I felt exactly the same (and so did she).... So I wonder how you are supposed to know the difference? I am just going to be keeping an eye out for any symptoms that I get from today, that I haven't had in the past week since I started the pessaries (does that make sense?).
AFM - so I arrived at the clinic, weird to be there just me and the nurses, I only saw one other patient the whole time I WA the today! Sooo quiet! Anyway, for the first time (and I wasn't expecting this as it didn't happen with my first FET) an amazing embryologist came to see me and spent a good 20 minutes with me discussing my two embryo's. It seems overnight both of them worked really hard and this morning the 11 cell from yesterday had turned into a blastocyst (the embryologist said she was very happy with this one because it was already starting to divide into the cells where you can see what would hypothetically become the placenta and the cells that would hypothetically become a baby) and the second embie, which was 12 cells yesterday had also turned into a blastie - but was just ever so slightly behind the first one as it had been a compacting morula at 4.30am and just turned into a blastie before she came to see me.
I apologize for all these details, tbh I just thought they may be useful or interesting to positively (or anyone else in the future that is going to have a FET) I don't want to upset anyone though - so in the future I won't go into as much detail and I sincerely apologize in advance if the details annoy or upset anyone).
So Miss B in answer to your question - NO WAY did I transfer both embies!! The reason we thawed two is because I requested a day 5 transfer instead of a day 3 (all my embies were frozen on day 3 originally) and my FS insists that at least 2 (preferably 3) day 3 embryo's are thawed so that the chances of having an embie to actually transfer on day 5 - are increased. Because this our last attempted pg I was happy to defrost more than one, in an attempt to get the best possible embie for transfer.
So at 7.30am I had ONE beautiful blastie transferred and I am now officially PUPO:) I think anyone that has had a FET woud agree - you kind of wake up (in my case I have to have a GA) and leave the clinic expecting to look or feel different, and it's weird when you don't?
The transfer was uneventful and the FS was happy with how everything went. I am thrilled that we ended up with a blastie to transfer, I have to admit that when I spoke to the clinic yesterday I didn't feel as though they were expecting a blastie today. The second blastie has been refrozen, so that if this cycle isn't successful we can use it in the future. We have basically decided that if we have to - we will use every embie we have frozen to try and achieve a pg. If it doesn't happen and we have no emboss left - that will be it for us. I don't think I could go through another fresh cycle, and would just feel incredibly grateful for the children we have already been blessed with.
The one last thing I wanted to say - please don't ever think that I am judgmental about transferring two embies! The reason I wrote NO WAY is because we ended up with identical twins from our first single blastie transfer. Don't get me wrong we would not change a single thing and we feel absolutely blessed, but I couldn't cope with another set of twins (if it happens we will be thrilled and we will cope) but it is not something we desire to undertake deliberately. Secondly, having already had twins from a single blastie transfer - triplets are always in the back of my mind from a double transfer:) and to be entirely honest - having had twins, my body couldn't cope with carrying triplets and I don't think I could imagine raising triplets...
Positively in answer to your question - as to what I am going to be doing post transfer... I kind of believe that if you fall pg naturally you don't really know what is going on 'in there' so you just pretty much continue as normal... Hence I have come home and am lying on the couch with the tv and a pile of magazines, so I will take it a bit easier than normal today - but I will be back to life as normal tomorrow... I wont lift the twins during the 2ww, or BD (that's just my personal choice:) but apart from that, not much will change..
Sorry for the long, all about me post... I guess when I first found BB I always wanted more information about peoples cycles, eg the specifics:) So please don't think I'm self obsessed or narcissistic - apart from welcoming peoples advice (always can get better advice if others know the specifics) iguess I hope that my experience will benefit someone else with their experience in the future.
My BT is next Thursday - which seems quicker than normal? Only 9dpt (at least it's a shorter 2ww)
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TTL - Thanks so much for sharing all that. I am like you and like alot of info I always have a million questions so you have now answered a few for me
How awesome that both had turned in to blasties, what a brilliant outcome so they must be great quality then :)
I do have to ask why did you decide to have your eggs grown out to a 5 day blastie? mine are day 3 as we had them filmed for the first 76 hours of their lives and from that fliming they worked out which embies were good enough to be transferred and frozen
I am told by the FS that doing this negates the need to have them grown out to 5 days. I have heard that a 5 day is better as you then know it's a more viable emby but yeah FS says having ours filmed negates that......all confusing stuff it just makes me worry about my 3 day embie
Totally get where you are coming from with regards to only transferring one, i have no idea what raising twins must be like but I can only assume its a wonderful challenge and yes having another set of twins would be pretty tough going.
My Nan was a twin and DH has twins in his family too so it's always a possibility for us I think after the years of TTC we would be sooo happy even if it was twins. We have been told no unprotected goings on but I am with Miss B and we are going to be carrying on as normal as I just think we have to try anything and everything.
I have everything crossed for you, FX next week you are going to share some very exciting news with us xx
Quick question Ladies is a FET cycle as long as your normal cycle? so if I normally have a 28 day cycle will this cycle be the same length?
Thanks I am just trying to work out timing with regards to taking leave etc and was wondering if the cycle is the same or longer
Hi Everyone,
Have been following avidly but hanging back.
TT40, yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is the best news! Okay, on my FIL's ancient computer, no emoticons, but a huge hug and congrats for you, wishing you uneventful pregnancy.
Pos, I just love reading your posts. Your SIL sounds unbelievable. I was gob-smacked by that story of her method of telling you about her pregnancy. Jesus. You must be so strong to keep up some good will there.
TTL, wishing you all the very best with your short 2WW & BT! I love long posts. I do them too.
Juniper, I just hope that AF stays away or if not, that the sticky BFP is just around the corner.
Miss B, hugs to you. It is really tough. I don't think there are any apologies needed for communicating how you feel. I have depression at times, sometimes related to TTC, sometimes with chronic pain and just runs in my family. So it really helps me when others are honest about their feelings.
Okay I have rambled a bit, and I am holding something back. I find it hard to post about this actually. But I also hope it's a bit of inspiration. After I spat the dummy and said I couldn't cope etc etc, because my ovulation wasn't happening, well it did happen .. just a few days late. And I am pregnant. Did FRER on Saturday (10dpo) and got blood test yesterday. I am only 13 dpo today. It is so overwhelming. I feel so lucky, but obviously nervous, early days. I want to send all the luck in the world back to you lovely strong ladies in here.
luck and love to all,
WW
Congrats WW!! :confetti:
I'm glad everything went smoothly for you 3rd time lucky, now fingers and toes crossed hun!
Wow, congrats worry wart!
It's so nice to see some BFPs in here :)
GL to everyone else in their cycles!
Congratulations WW!! Love a great natural miracle story - I am o thrilled for you. Enjoy every single moment:)
Positively - I'm going to preface my answer to your question by saying that everyone has their own opinion on this whole day 3 or day 5 thing... I have a fairly strong opinion but that by no means - means that I am correct. You must always remember that many women have fallen pg from FET's from day 2, 3, 5 and even day 6 transfers...
I had OHSS with my first fresh cycle and then Christmas happened so I had to zit 3 months to do my FET. I did so much obsessive research I turned a bit nutty... I can admit it:) after talking to my FS, my OB and doing a truck load of research online and through various clinics in Perth - My personal conclusion, for me, was that a day 5 blastie transfer gave us the best chance of falling pg. Why? In really simplistic terms - I figured if the embie made it to day 5 - blastie stage then it had a better chance of 'going on' and continuing to divide.
My FS agreed with this for me on the basis that I had 12 frozen day 3 embryo's. If I had have had less embryos I'm sure he would have pushed a day 3 transfer. He agreed for my first FET on the basis that I agreed to defrost 3 day 3's. What happened next solidified my opinion that for me, I would always transfer a day 5 blastie as my first choice.
So we thawed 3 x day 3 embies. All 3 had the same number of cells and were classified to be of the "same quality" - on day 5, one was a 'beautiful blastie' - (the now twins), the other was a 'good blastie' and the 3rd embie didn't make it to day 3.
So I spent a fair portion of my 2ww thanking my lucky stars that we had taken them to day 5 and not transferred the one that didn't make it to day 5. In hindsight I now think to myself, all great but what if by putting it back in on day 3 it had've survived etc... Aaaaaaaggggghhhhhhhh
What do I believe now? I am a lot more relaxed!! :) And I have a lot less time to obsess:) I still choose to do day 5 blastie transfers because that is what is right for me. But this is my last baby and I had and still have a relatively large number of good embryos. Now I am not an embryologist, so i don't know enough about the time lapse filming or how that predicts what your embie is going to do AFTER the thaw. I have always thought you'd only know what would happen by actually thawing - but I could be wrong... I was also influenced by the fact that several of the most highly regard FS in Perth only do blastocyst transfers.... (unless you have done more than 3 cycles without having anything to show at the end of them) - this seems a bit harsh to me. I believe it is my embie so I should be able to choose what stage I want to transfer at, based on the opinion of the embryologist and my FS. As I said at the start many many ladies falling from day 2, 3 and 6 transfers... I think there is a lot more too it than just embie age... Quality for example must be critical?
FET cycle length... Are you doing a natural or medicated cycle? If natural I would think it will be the same as your normal cycle (my first cycle was unmedicated and it was normal length). If medicated - the trigger will determine when you ovulate, and the pessaries will likely prolong your cycle (can take a while for AF to come back for me).
I've done it again!! I'm so sorry!! (embarrassed icon) That's what sitting on the couch all day does to you!
AFM - I POAS today to see if the trigger has left my system. IT has not:( Very feint positive... I have to say weirdest thing I've ever experienced and I don't like it - a feint line when you know your not pg. It's very odd and I now feel like I have to test every day until the line is totally gone. And then even if I get a real bfp I probably won't believe it until it's confirmed by BT.
Worrywart congratulations again! Your a dearest superstar and I'm so thrilled for you again :)
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***** amendment- I meant to say my last day 3 embie that was thawed - didn't make it to day 5 (not day 3 as in previous post)***** apologies
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Lol 3rd time lucky, it's weird testing out the trigger! I did that once in the BFP cycle that unfortunately ended up in a m/c but I started testing a day or two after transfer, kept getting a faint positive for a few days, and then got a BFN for a day or two (that was unsettling knowing that that unpregnant second line disappeared) but then it reappeared and that was reassuring.
Im the opposite. 3tl, ive had both d2 and d5 tf, and our d5 never worked, but both our d2 did. But like you said every woman is different and every embryo. I think it msinly depends on why you need ivf. We have male reasons, so technically theres nothing wrong my end so earlier tf thebetter for us
Lol Miss B - yes testing out the trigger is going to make my head spin around... DH went overseas for 10 days today and the last thing he said was "im really going to miss you etc etc but seriously, how good is my timing" (the trip has been planned for 3 months... You can understand I didn't see the funny side...
TT40 - excellent point! I agree it must have a huge impact on success, in terms of the reason why you need IVF in the first place! Our issue is I only have one ovary and my opposite side produces loads of eggs, but my tube is fully blocked (I have PCOS and Andomyosis) but my FS says that while I have problems conceiving, I have no issues with carrying... I'm lucky also that my embryo's are good quality.
Positively, that's why I am really cautious in sharing my views. They are right for me, but so many amazing ladies fall pg from transfers on all days - I think if your embryo quality is good, transfer day isn't probably a huge deal. And you've had the benefit of the latest technology with the filming so I wouldn't be concerned at all!
AfM - that amazing embryologist that spend so long with me - texted me a photo of our blastie last night. That was pretty cool of her I thought! It was way better than the snap I tried to take on my phone (the lighting was really bad). I wish I knew how to upload photos... But I'm not sure if that's allowed anyway?
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