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    Hi all,
    I've been AWOL for a few days, ended up spending a couple of days in Melbourne and seeing Spamalot etc.
    Not a great deal to report at the moment. My FS has started me on Provera for the next ten days, then I go on the pill when I get AF and progynova. All going well our ET should be early Feb.



    In regards to the telling people thing... my very best friend knew and family. My boss found out after I got AF on night shift one night about a week after ET, needless to say I was devastated and he saw me crying. After taking me into his office to calm down I explained everything and he was brilliant, put me on light duties elsewhere for the next 8 months until we got the BFP and then let me continue until I was too sick to work. He signed off on 3 months special sick leave straight away for me too as soon as Hyperemesis was diagnosed.
    Everyone who did know was fantastic and now I talk about it quite freely.

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    Hi all

    Thanks for your good luck messages for tomorrow.
    Today was not a great day for me. I think i was upset about the oestrogen levels. Also i got an email from a friend last night announcing her (accidental) pregnancy. Although I am over the moon for her and her hubbie it really made me sad that it is so hard for us. Most of our friends are either pregnant or have kids already. It is hard. I had acupuncture this morning and bawled my eyes out to my acupuncturist. He is fantastic though. He is also a great councillor. If anyone lives at the gold coast and needs one I can give you his name. He made me feel a lot better today.

    Wannabeamum- I am going through QFG gold coast. Very good so far (only my first cycle). The nurses are all very nice. I already know my FS quite well since I had 2 surgeries with him in 07

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    WannaBeAMum - I tried to PM you but couldn't, so will just leave a reply here. We went to QFG Brisbane, had to travel 1000klms to get there, so our FS who was closer looked after us for our injections and ultrasounds, and we travelled for EPU and transfer.

    We were suppose to see Warren DeAmbrosis, but he was on holidays at the time and from what I understand has had to take time of work recently due to health issues, so we ended up seeing Scott Salisbury, who was just an absolute angel. He held my hand while I was being put to sleep, telling me all would be well and he would look after me.

    We had our "interview" over the phone with a lovely nurse who was extremely helpful and went through all the paperwork in the information booklet we received.

    DH met Scott when we went for transfer and even though it was only 10 minutes or so, DH was pretty impressed with him too.

    Hope that helps a little

    Nic

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    I m really having touble trying to work out what all these initials all stand for. I take it that by the parts that I can understand that this is a section that relates to IVF etc. Could some one please help me to understand. I have just finished a round of IVF where there were 9 eggs, 2 Fertilized which resulted in confirmed pregnancy only for them both to miscarry. I trying to work out what steps to take next so if there is a thread on here that is more related to IVF it would help me greatly.

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    Hi to everyone,

    I had the IUI yesterday, so now I'm back to the old TWW - the worst part for me! I am trying to feel positive about it, and thanks to everyone for your kind and supportive words.

    I'm at home today and am trying to take it easy, I don't want to dislodge anything or have the swimmers go to the wrong place and miss my 2 or 3 follies!!! Having said that I've got to take the crinone and then be active for an hourish afterwards so am planning to do a bit of tidying up and maybe some ironing. Exciting day!

    Sorry for the lack of personals.

    RH

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    Off to the hospital for DH test. Second one for him

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    angel babies - welcome hun - this is the ivf general chatter thread and probably the place where all of your questions can be answered most easily. it does tend to bounce around a little depending on where people are at with their cycles, but it's definitely one of the most supportive threads on bb - everyone will help you out with your queries!

    i'm really sorry for the loss of your angel babies hun. it's hard to lose a baby at any time - but i think if you've been undergoing any form of assisted conception it seems like an even harder blow.

    as to what to do next, i guess that's something that you need to discuss with your specialist. each individual is different in what the best steps to take would be. given that you don't have any frozen embryo's, i'm assuming you will need to go through another full ivf cycle...

    Here is a list of common abbreviations that are used on bellybelly - there is a section with IVF terms in there - hope that helps! i'm sure if you're reading through here and something doesn't quite make sense, all you need to do is ask and one of us will jump in and answer for you - we've all been new and asked the questions, so dont feel like you can't ask!

    take care hun

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    Angelbabies,

    I'm new here too but this thread does seem to be the best place for ivf. We all seem to be in similar, if not the same situations.

    Thanks BG for the list. A huge help!

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    no probs hun - that list was my saviour when i first joined BB!

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    Hi everyone,

    I've been MIA for a little while (struggling a bit at the moment) - but thought I would drop in to say hello and see how everyone is doing.

    Welcome to all the lovely new ladies here - minimay, Sue, indie74, RH76, WannaBeAMum & tish. Sorry that my greetings are a bit late! I hope that 2008 brings success to you all

    Angel Babies - You're definitely in the right place to discuss IVF, even though there are people discussing a number of types of Assisted Conception here All the acronyms here can be really confusing and they have a tendency to make you feel out of the loop at first. There's even a section on IVF acronyms in the page BG gave you a link to. I'm very sorry to hear of the loss of your angel babies :hugs: Please feel free to ask any questions you may need - everyone is incredibly supportive and caring here and it's the right place to be to receive advice and information from others who may have gone through a similar thing to you. We're here for you if you need. Ask away

    jbub - GL - I hope your scan goes well today. It's hard when you're in your first cycle as there are lots of unknowns, especially relating to how your body is going to respond to the stim drugs. It makes it difficult to put your trust in your FS at first. But they will take care of you, and they will adjust things in your cycle as needed. BG said a few days ago (I think!) that it's far better to be under-stimulating than over-stimulating and that they can adjust your dose and have more control this way. This is very true. In my first IVF cycle, I under-stimulated at first, combined with having AF arrive very late when I was already on the stims. I stayed on the Gonal-F a couple of days longer than anticipated as a result and everything ending up coming together in the last couple of days - I had 9 eggs collected How's the piano going? I play piano for relaxation too (I'm a piano teacher) and taught lots of adults that have decided to start playing for enjoyment and for the challenge, and it's been wonderful for them. It really helps take your mind off things when you have to concentrate, doesn't it?

    SaltPrincess - with regard to telling people about our IVF treatment, I'm a little like you. I'm compulsively honest and find that in conversation with friends and family I tell people how I'm feeling and what's going on for me without any prior intention to. Sometimes I think it's a response to the intensity of how I'm feeling - I've got to get out what's going on otherwise when it stays in it's harder to contend with. It tends to happen in conversations with people I love and trust, of course, and certainly not with random people! I don't regret telling some of the people I've told so much as would have hoped they would see the significance of telling them and how I'm feeling a little more. But in your own journey it's difficult to expect people to understand what you're going through. Sorry for the extended waffle here - just wanting to say I understand where you're coming from

    scooby - you have a right to know clearly what has been happening in your treatment. Not the least for your peace of mind. I think a list of questions for your FS is a great idea - then you can go in there and be assertive and say to your doctor: "These are the things I'm confused about and I want clarity and understanding and I need your answers and clear information for this". If he is not willing to provide this or unable to, then it may be time to seek a second opinion and a doctor who is more communicative and empathetic to how you are feeling. Good Luck.

    CarlaMP
    - I'm sorry to hear December wasn't successful for you. I hope the wait for AF goes quickly. I have heard from Melsta recently - she's had a hectic time around Christmas and new years hence she hasn't been posting in the pregnancy threads so much, but she is doing ok. Maybe you could try PMing her?

    Minimay - good on you for going to get the information and the answers that you need. I hope the scientist you're going to see can help shed some light for you Can I ask what the Clexane was for specifically? My understanding is that it is a drug used for blood clotting disorders (or lack of clotting).

    Just wondering if anyone knows how Kell is doing? I haven't seen her post in here recently...

    There's so many more people that I'd like to post personals to, but unfortunately I think I have to keep moving - more house packing awaits. But to everyone else - W1, Blayz, TL, BG, emma83, BW and anyone else I may have missed, I hope that you are doing ok in your respective cycles (or waiting) for now.


    As for me, AF has behaved this stim cycle and came only 2 days late, so I had my down-reg scan yesterday and all looks well. I start stims tonight and I'm forecasting based on the schedule that EPU should be the same day as the removalists are here to dismantle our house - ahhh the ironies of life, yet again.

    Hugs to everyone. Thinking of you lots.


    Miss C
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    Been meaning to welcome all of our new members as well, but life is interfering with my BB time lately! So welcome to everyone. Thanks to BG for pointing out the abbreviations list. That was my next job

    No personals from me today. Too far behind again. Will aim to stay ahead of the game now.

    No news from us. Just truckin' along.

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    anytime slyder!

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    Back to the clinic today for another BT/scan combo. Things are progressing 'perfectly' apparently which is really positive to hear. My follies are growing - YAY!!! I was really nervous after our first attempt at IVF failed because the follicles didn't grow, I was expecting to go in and for them to say that they hadn't again, but it looks like they are doing the right thing finally! I have 13 follicles 5mm or bigger and 22 less than 5mm so I'm really hoping that we get lots out of it. Dr Junk said that the average number of eggs retrieved for PCOS patients is around 11, but you don't really know how many you will get until OPU.

    So OPU is booked in for Monday - I can't believe it's so close!!! Which means trigger injection is tomorrow night which scares the cr*p out of me. Because i have to do 10000iu HCG, I have to use the glass ampules and draw up the injection myself instead of just using the normal pre-filled syringe. Am trying not to work myself up too much about it. I also have to go in to the clinic on Sunday for my 'big bleed' - couldn't they hve come up with a better name for it?!?!?! To help the follicles mature, they use some of my blood in the culture, so lucky me has to bleed out for that. Fun, fun, fun. I also have to take eostrogen tablets from Sunday, and then crinone from Tuesday.

    OMG it is all really happening!!!!!!!!
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    ooh - that sounds so much less stressful than aiming for lots of dominant follies! i'm watching your progress on the IVM front with interest Bec

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    Hmmm... just spoke to the clinic and my OPU has been pushed back to Tuesday because my hormone levels aren't high enough yet? No big drama I guess...

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    Thank You so much for the list of abreviations. I ve copied them to my desktop. Not saying i ll get in and use them straight away but at least i will know what you are all sayng. Even TTC had me stunned. I was thinking what the heck is TTC, is it painful, can you catch it. Is there medication for it. Then I read 'Trying To Conceive' and I almost lost my breath laughing.

    Not that what we go through TTC (there i used it) is funny, just my nievity to this whole process is amuzing at times.

    As for whether we are going to try IVF again, well I just do not know. We have not had a positive experience with our FS (wow i m on a roll now with these abreviations). In fact our experience with our FS was incrediably bad. He needs to pull his head out of clinical world and land on this planet for a second if he is going to keep his 'customers'. At 14k a go you would think he would like the odd repeat customer. :doctor:

    In my living on the internet lately trying to work things through I have found a place that is raved about, so we have thought that we would try that. Unfortunatly that had a segment on TV and now have a waiting list, at 38 I dont have time to wait. . So we have been put on it through correspondance. Its a place on the Gold Coast called Sharkeys. My son, who is now 18 was telling me all about some friends of his fathers who were told they wouldnt conceive on IVF got a BFP (wow another abreviation, i m cookin with gas now!!!!) anyway I digres, they got a BFP using this Sharkeys place. So we filled out the indeapth questionaire and sent it off and have placed our order which takes 6 weeks. Who knows.... just might work

    So that is where we are at. On a day to day basis I miss my 2 little angel babies but for about the first time I feel like there is a future. I am noticing things today that I havent seen for a while. I have been off on another planet for a while now and today i actually feel half normal. Fingers crossed it continues.

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    14K a go? That would have to be an Australian record, surely?

    Sorry for your losses, AB.
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    We still sit here and question the origional amount we were told..... but that s what it has added up to be, my credit card sadly shows it all. I even got another bill in the mail the other day, from a 'surgery assistant' someone that came in to help with, why i dont know, but helped in what must have been the egg pick up. They apparently assisted him and then sent the bill to me. From the initial consultation through to the last one, him telling me it s just a bit of tissue, flush it. all in all 14k. (each consultation.... which takes anywhere from 3 minutes through to ohhh maximum 12 minutes.. was 67 dollars) I questioned once the continual bills and what did the 5880 that we were origionally quoted cover, oh that covers blah blah blah but doesnt cover this.

    Anyway, its all done now. Onward and Upwards from here

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