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    Yup, fertility charting is a tool that's used to track changes through your cycle. Your basal body temperature will be lower pre-ovulation, but the progesteron that runs around after ovulation makes it rise. Most women see a drop in temperature as progesterone levels drop, leading to AF's arrival. It works really well if you do other things like track cervical mucus, monitor your cervix (not easy!) and use ovulation prediction sticks.

    I do it because my acupuncturist gets a lot of information from seeing how my charts are going, and because I'm lucky enough to have an FS who is happy to run with natural FETs. Did I forget to mention that he forced the day surgery to open on a Sunday just because I was more than ready for collection? He got another woman in on the same day, but the whole hospital had to open up just for two egg collections! I was also hyperstimulating and really not coping emotionally, as I'd been through OHSS before and it is hell!



    Anyway, I digress... if you are under the care of a fertility specialist, there's probably no real reason for you to be charting. After two years of it, I'm about ready to pack it all in. I can monitor my ovulation really well without it. I have to take drugs to make me ovulate (similar to clomid), I know how they effect me, I know I will get anxious leading up to it, I know it will peak just before, I know it will go away when I have. I also get quite painful ovaries for a day or so before I ovulate and I have an absolute obsession with cervical mucus, that I just can't seem to break. But, I charted for a year without ever ovulating at all, so I'm kinda getting a kick out of seeing charts with nice patterns, and I'm a control freak - so I still chart for my acupuncturist. My FS would probably shoot me if he knew, it's something he's very much against.

    OK, that's BW's essay on charting, I hope it gave you some helpful information, Angel Babies.

    BW

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    Good morning everyone

    Hope you are all doing well today, sending warm thoughts to everyone!

    Thought I'd check in, lots of stuff going on here!! Fiiiiinally I got my period, yay, so I am starting injections *tomorrow* which I'm really excited about (ask me again when I'm about to inject.... scary). I don't think I've EVER been happy to get my period LOL

    I'm all booked in for an ultrasound and blood test on Saturday which is also very exciting. I hope I respond as I'm supposed to.

    The only bummer is that I've got a cold at the moment I hope it doesn't affect anything adversely.

    So things are humming along nicely - I'm trying to concentrate on destressing (yah right!), eating happy, healthy, whole foods, getting any heavy work around the house and yard done before I get too bloated from the drugs etc, and scaling back the really strenuous exercise (I competed in (hopefully) my last triathlon in a while on Sunday which was very emotional). As I've mentioned before we haven't told anyone we're doing all of this, but I'm going to have to chat to my trainer or he'll wonder why I'm not pushing hard anymore so I'm looking forward to sharing our news with someone, even though he'll be **sworn** to secrecy

    Seems like everyone here is busy right now too, thank you for sharing so much here, it's wonderful to follow your journeys.

    Tish
    Who has discovered emoticons....... still working on the acronyms... small steps!

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    Bec - was thinking of you this morning and sending you lots of wishes for OPU. I hope you're recovering well and had good news on your egg numbers.

    kyles - welcome to BB I hope your IVF journey is short and that success comes to you soon! I wish all the luck for your upcoming cycle, and I'm glad you're finding all the information here useful - it'll be good to feel prepared once February comes around.

    AB - there's certainly lots to learn, but don't stress yourself to go out and try and take everything in too quickly, hun. Just let yourself learn about things naturally, help keep your stress levels down. You've got time to rest now, in amongst deciding on a FS, so take advantage of that time to try to rest your mind after what you've gone through. You'll make decisions as you go about things in the next few months, but don't force anything. Treat yourself kindly (I'm trying to take my own advice at the moment too!) - no more telling yourself you're ignorant, as slyder said! And give yourself the space to absorb new information without overloading.

    One thing I also wanted to say was that I can see that you're feeling really hurt and bewildered by your FS and the way he treated you. Perhaps something to keep in mind that may help you heal from that experience is to know that your FS would never have had any ill-intentions in the way he treated you. He would have had your best interests medically as his foremost concern. This is without doubt. He was taking care of you in the way he knew how, medically, even if his demeanour was lacking. What you have learnt is that you need to have an FS that has your best interests medically at heart as this FS did, but also knows how to consider your emotional and mental needs too. Someone who does this and that you can get along with will earn your trust and respect back.

    Now, put your feet up and don't worry too much about charting! Yes, it is useful information to have, but a lot of FS's won't even think about it or use it, especially if you have already reached the point where you are having IVF/ICSI treatment. Take care of yourself, hun.

    TP - I'm sorry to hear of the new development. It sounds very frustrating. Perhaps it's a good thing to know this now even though it is frustrating - you and FS are now armed with more information that is going to help with your treatment and your ultimate goal of conceiving. I'm sure we can all empathise with the feeling of not believing that you really have reached a certain point when you're trying to conceive. You've just got to keep hanging in there and hoping for and believing you will achieve the right result, even as you keep heading deeper into the waters of AC... I hope this round brings you the right result, hun.

    Salt - I understand the frustration in having to wait longer than expected for your body to do what it's meant to do - in my first IVF cycle my stimulation phase kept being pushed by a day or two further along three separate times because I was under-responding to the stims. It really got quite frustrating. Hang in there - will be thinking of you lots and sending your ovaries the hurry-up vibes!

    Peta - Glad you're enjoying the time off the drugs, hun. I can't see any end in sight for now, but somehow I keep thinking about spring-time and fresh green grass and cool water as the oasis at the end of the artificial-hormone tunnel - I hope that's what it feels like for you at the moment! If so, brilliant!

    Tish - how exciting! You're on to the next step! I hope the first injection goes quickly and smoothly, hun. You'll be an old hat at it after one go, I promise! Good luck for your b/t and u/s on Saturday.


    Hello and hugs to everyone else whom I haven't written personals to here.

    We haven't heard the slogan for a while...

    Procreate in 0-8!

    Ahhh, there. That feels better!

    Thinking of you all lots,

    Miss C
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    Well yesterday went well, it was the easiest transfer I have had thus far. ( The 1st took 23 mins, I have to admit I was freaking out a tad) But yesterday my FS insisted that he would do it (changed his schedule) and it was a breeze. I have learnt a lot during this journey , "normal" is soooo different for everyone.
    But everyone's goal is the same.

    I was too afraid to ask how many embies went to blastocyst, but was met by a friendly embryologist who explained we had 2 ready and 3 a little slower but they would more than likely catch up by today. Now is the 2 week wait.

    Tish, I too just discovered the emotioncons and good luck with the injections tonight and hope all goes well with your test this weekend.

    I am getting the hang of writing personals, sorry to those I havn't replied. I still feel a newby.

    Wishing all a great day and lots of positive thoughts.

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    BD congratulations on the transfer - very glad to hear there wasn't any stress involved this time - it's the last thing you need at the time of transfer. Very best wishes for your TWW and I hope it goes really quickly for you

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    Tish - congrats on starting injections 2moro good luck!

    BD - crossing my fingers for your 2ww!!

    Salt - how is that puregon treating you? I have come up in bruises at all the injection sites, I have had 4 injections so far!! My dose is a bit more than yours, 225. Good Luck with the Psychologist, I found it REALLY helpful once I found the right one for me.

    I am off for my BT tomoro morn to see how my levels are. Heres hoping for a good result. Cant believe EPU is in 1 week. I feel SO good compared to last time!!

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    Hi Miss C, thanks for your message, i'm feeling a little better about everything, just had one of those 'down' moments, which i'm sure everyone knows what i'm meaning there !
    Having scan on thursday to check follie development, so this will tell us more about what may or may not be happening.

    Best wishes to all . tp

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    Salt, my biggest bruise ever was from a 10IU lucrin injection. The larger injections do hurt more - 300IU of puregon is ouchie, and the triggers HURT unless you are really careful with them.

    Bruising (for me at least) seems to come more from technique than the size of the injection. In Summer, it's easier to bruise because the warmer weather means your blood vessels are close to the surface and more open.

    Theresep, I hope your scan shows good things tomorrow.

    BW

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    Hi everyone

    Slyder - hope all went well with your & DW's appointment this morning. Sorry to hear that your FET didn't work out - BOL for next month!

    BW - thanks for the information. I guess all I really wanted was some peace of mind that this person, who is likely to be a critical part of our IVF journey, is someone who is both knowledgeable and compassionate at the same time. I am not concerned about him being tough on my phsyical health, I am exercising regularly and in good health overall and eat sensibly. And re the protocol, if anything, my local FS has recommended a much less aggressive protocol suggesting that the high levels of GonalF I was on before were 'poisoning' me, so she has suggested some different treatment and closer monitoring.

    We still don't know what effect the travel between Canberra and Sydney will do for us, particularly the potential extra stress it will add. DF has just suggested that maybe we wait until our local FS starts her own clinic in about 6 months. What a kick! It is bad enough that this cycle has been missed now and our last IVF cycle was August last year - it will be 6 months in between even if we start next cycle. It just seems there are so many barriers being put up against us at the moment, which of course is making me stressed and sad at the same time!

    Anyway, enough ranting from me. It sounds like there are lots of ladies starting cycles, doing scans and about to do EPUs. I know it sounds silly, but I can't wait to get back into it all with you. Prayers, hugs and babydust to you all and I hope your IVF journeys are short .

    xx
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    Sorry guys not feeling the best so no personals for now.

    Had OPU this morning and we are very happy that we got 13 eggs. Am very sore but have been drugged up to the nines so am hoping to sleep through the rest of today and tomorrow and recover.

    Now we have to wait and see what happens, overnight they should mature (Approx 60% maturation rate), then DH goes in for his side of things tomorrow, so will know fertilisation results on Thursday. All going to plan, we will have a blast to transfer on Monday.

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    New thread time, peeps.

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