Printable View
I'm back from my BT and US..they are still unsure wheather i've ovulated or not????? either way my hormones are no where near where they should be to support a transfer. Sooooooo they have suggested I now do a HRT cycle with oestrogen tablets and pessaries 3 times a day etc etc. Has anyone any information on this cycle or can anyone shed a little more light on it for me?
B2B: hope the new cycle works, don't know much about it. good luck
juniper: it's good your work supports you. not long til next cycle.
to all others: good luck whatever part of cycle your doing.
chat soon
Hi B2B
I am currently doing a HRT FET cycle.
Starts off from Day 1 taking the oestrogen tablets 3 x a day. Should have a BT and scan somewhere between day 10-14 to see levels and lining. My levels and lining were good so started pessaries x3 the next day and transfer will be 6 days after starting pessaries (I have 5 day blasts so depends on what you are transfering).
When they start introducing hormones into the body your body stops making its own so if BT comes back positive (fingers crossed) you continue the tablets and pessaries upto around week 13 of pregnancy. With HRT the clinic pretty much takes control of your cycle so don't have to go for blood tests all the time to pinpoint O like in a natural cycle.
Hope this helps and good luck
you are fabulous Jacki........thank you so much for this info. It's helped alot!!!
Hi Ladies,
Sorry but I'm going to rant - and hopefully get some answers too. I had my BT today and after 17 days on syneral my hormones are not suppressed enough for starting FSH and seem to be quite far off where they're meant to be LH=5.5 (I don't know much and as the results were over the phone and i rang from work I couldn't get much detail). All I know is they want me to double the syneral dose and continue for another week. The nurse said it's rare but it happens that syneral doesn't work for some people so I am a bit annoyed at her not allowing me return sooner to check if it's working or not as the clinic will only start stims on a Thursday to fit the doctors schedule for EPU (do not recommend this FS and would definitely have gone with another that I looked into had they been able to fit me in on the short window where I'm not travelling for work). Anyway it looks like I'll be another week on these drugs that make me feel great, not, and then find out if they are even working. Has anyone else had any experience of this?
Thanks, a bit of a rant I know sorry.
Mellissal, on another note; you may not be the only one in the same position. As I said above I travel a lot with work and when I started clomid cycles I had to have some reason to explain to my boss why my travel was so much less flexible so I ended up telling him what was happening and it turned out he and his wife are in the same position - though different reasons and treatments he was completely understanding. I ended up being really glad I told him because he has been completely flexible and supportive since (he was a good boss to begin with anyway). If you tell people you work with it may actually help. Though I can see why the hesitation; especially with where you are working. GL
Ladies,
I need to rant. I'm so upset.
I took an IVF receipt to Medicare this morning, for a rebate. The clerk was snooty, she was obviously having a bad day. But after she'd finished my transaction, she picked up my Medicare card and said "you should put DH on your card, so he can join you on the Safety Net." I said "yeah, I will get around to that." She then said, "And put The Baby on it too."
Now, she doesn't know I'm in the middle of the TWW, or that referring to The Baby is quite insensitive, but WTF? Is it not enough to have my Mum expecting babies from me, now Medicare expects it as well? Why do people assume that IVF has worked, or will work? I was in tears afterwards. Of course, I know she didn't mean anything by it, but hearing her refer to The Baby really threw me.
Okay, rant over. I'll go back to the TWW and be ultra-sensitive for another week.
Persephone, sorry to hear you had to deal with that. It would have upset me too. Especially during the 2ww! FYI, I have DH added to my Safety Net but we have separate cards with different numbers. I did it online before IVF#1. Not that DH racks up many medical expenses... :rolleyes:
Persephone - I'm sorry for your Medicare experience. As if it's not an insult enough to have to spend half your day queuing there. You'd think she would be more sensitive? What would she say to people with terminal illnesses? Rude and insensitive and you have every right to be upset.
I went with DH yesterday to look at new cars. More tyre-kicking than anything but we both drive small inner-city cars and hope that if all goes well with IVF we may soon need to upgrade. No harm in positive thinking, right? DH had been in the day before and mentioned to the salesman that we were "thinking of starting a family".
So we were being shown through the vehicle and another salesman jumps in (total smarmy, scarfed-ip, tosser!). The first guy had been great and the new guy starts going into overkill and really putting the hard word on us. He says "In your condition[, you really need a big vehicle"
What condition might that be? I was so irritated that even if he had have offered us the best deal out there, I would not have bought a car from him.
These people are presumptuous and can't possibly understand what we are going through (that's not to say there aren't wonderful, caring and understanding people out there).
Then in afternoon, DH and I went to accountant to do tax. When it came to the Medical Expenses part, he asked if we had any. I said "Yes" and he asked what they were for. I explained that I had knee surgery, lap & hyst and IVF costs. He went on to tell me how his 1st wife had IVF with no success and 2nd wife had ectopic and lost a tube and how he'd had a client in the day before, same age as me who had already spent $17K on IVF with no success. Such positive stories to be sharing!!!!!!:rolleyes::
Seriously, you are not being ultrasensitive and you are in the TWW which must be so stressful and thought consuming at times. :hug:
Good luck for the rest of your TWW. :goodluck:
Persephone1- your a lot stronger than me, I would have jumped over the counter and slapped her one! Stupid :angry:
I hope you put in a complaint, thats really rude. You would think you were taking the money from their pocket - the way some of those medicare people react!
When we went in with our first bill (5K) they were all in a fluster.. we realised we dont get the cash back, it goes into our account, it took them a while to process it - we were at the counter for a good 15 min.
AFM - nothing much, I queried why I cant do back to back cycles, my FS wont do them cause the result is never as good - the follies don't develop as much. I see a new FS on Tuesday, and then go back in about 20days for my 1st ultrasound before the new cycle. We have hit up the MIL & FIL to pay for this round of IVF - we have funds, but they offered to help out (thank god :pray:) for a while - takes a bit of pressure off!
Seph and Taureen - so sorry you've had to go through that stuff, some people are just so insensitive. Those people don't sound very nice. You poor things x.
Good luck with it all :crossfingers:
Hi to everyone else and I hope you are all doing well.
GL on the medications etc and for those in TWW. :bluedust::pink-babydust:
AFM - on Puregon injections and Synarel still and have BT and U/S next Thurs/Fri to determine when EPU will be. Im getting quite excited but a little nervous also. We have little furbabies at home too which is fun - our two dogs have had a litter of 5 pure-bred Kelpies.
Emerald Star - thanks for your wishes. Your eggs sound ok to me. GL on Monday, will be thinking of you x
B2B - sorry your cyle was cancelled :hug: I hope this new plan they have works out, i really do.
Jasminstar - sorry about your issues with Synarel - its not very nice stuff. I hope things are sorted ASAP and we can continue on the journey together. All the very best x
I know Ive missed people - sorry, its hard to write heaps of personals when you're at work.
Best wishes to all.
Jasminstar - I know how you feel about synarel. On my first IVF cycle and the down reg blood test, my levels were low enough to start FSH injections, and it was quite a low level (below 50 I think) so the nurse said the synarel must have been working really well. So I started the FSH injections and got to two days before my EPU date when they did another blood test to check hormone levels. They called me with the bad news that based on my hormone levels, I'd already started ovulating early. So my cycle was cancelled two days before EPU. The explanation was that obviously my body didn't respond to synarel and it didn't do what it was suppose to do (ie. suppress ovulation). I was shattered as you can imagine. Not long after that, I ended up getting a blood test on day 1 of my next cycle, and my E2 levels were really low again. So I think that for the cycle previously when they did my down reg blood test and I had a really low E2 level, that it was because of my body's own natural levels. And for all I know, synarel didn't work from the start, but I had to get the point I did (ie. cancelled cycle because of early ovulation) for them to realise this. They are such hard lessons that we have to learn going through IVF. I really wish it was easier for us all. I hope the next week goes well and you can get a start on your FSH injections soon.
Seph - OMG, I can't believe that Medicare woman. People are so insensitive sometimes. A couple of times when I've gone to the chemist to buy Elevit, ladies will come up and ask if I need assistance or need advice on taking Elevit. Then they ask when I'm due!!! It really bugs me that I then have to say that I'm not pregnant yet. It's so none of their business.
Krikkit - my FS is the same re back-to-back cycles. For stim cycles, they won't do them back-to-back and they say the same reason as yours does - that you won't get as good a response. As hard as it is, it's probably just best to wait out a natural cycle in between stim cycles (that's where I am now - natural cycle). I definitely plan on finding out about back-to-back cycles if they're FET's, or if it's a FET to a stim. Good luck with everything.
Wishes xoxo
Okay, I thought maybe I was over-reacting, but now that I've read your replies I realized that I'm not. So I decided to make an online complaint. I just said that the clerk made an assumption and that her comment upset me. I suggested she be more tactful in the future.
I'll let you know when they respond. Thanks girls, I feel a bit better.
good move Seph......I get annoyed with people who say the incorrect thing and are never actually told that they may be offensive! I had a little word with my grandmother the other day and told her that telling me that for her to fall preganant all that my grandfather had to do was hang his pants up behind the door, was just something that I didn't need to hear!!!!
Hi everyone,
Hope you are all doing well.
Seph- I think you have done the right thing, whatever comes out of this atleast I hope she will be careful not to hurt anybody's feelings in the future.
Mitf-Hope u r okay !
Loops12-Glad you have a whole(fur) family to cheer you up.GL with the injections
GL to all the rest of you whatever stage of TTC you are in.
AFM-AF arrived yesterday, today I have been booked to have US and the dreaded Dilapan insertion, normally this is done on the third or fourth day of the cycle to reduce discomfort but unfortunately there is nobody at the clinic to do this over the weekend and hence I have no option but to have it today.
Hi All
Seph - you would think that dealing with people who are obviously claiming for bills for PERSONAL medical expenses, part of the staff's training should be to be more tactful (ie butt out of peoples' personal business and make no comment at all) But I suppose, you can't always teach people tact. I am sorry that you had to deal with such a moron at such a nerve-wracking time in your cycle.
One thing that I have learned from this whole process is that it is either a really taboo subject and people, even close friends get really uncomfortable talking about it, or they go the polar opposite and want to tell you every negative story re TTC that they have ever heard (as in your case Taurean78)
Although I haven?t had any too bad encounters, I was upset that SIL asked how it was going last week and I told her I had EPU and ET coming up and the response was ?Oh that?s nice? ? like I was going for a bl#$dy pedicure or something. Have spoken to her several times since and she has not asked once how it all went, so I didn?t bring it up.
Krikkit ? glad to hear that you will have one less issue to worry about for your next cycle. Good luck on Tuesday
Loops12 ? Hope you are travelling well on your stims. I?m sure all your furbabies are going to help keep you a little pre-occupied until your tests next week
B2B ? Your Grandmother sounds like a character, but in regard to Grandparents, that would be way TMI at the best of times, let alone when you?re TTC and feeling a bit vulnerable
Vira ? Thinking of you today (tonight) for your appointment. I hope all goes well for you. Please excuse my ignorance, but what is the Dilapan?
Jasminstar ? How did you go today? Have they booked in your EPU?
Hi Mrs S ? :welcome:
Melissal ? Good luck for your cycle :goodluck: It is a hard call to make regarding your work and I hope that it does not stress you out too much. Have you spoken to your FS in regard to this? Perhaps they have an alternative place that they can test at.
Daisie ? how are you travelling?
Phew, sorry for the long post...If I have missed any personals, I apologise.
AFM ? on day 6 of the dreaded 2WW (18 days actually). Only 12 days to go till BT (hopefully). Have had a tiny amount of spotting and a fair bit of cramping, but just hoping for the best and trying to keep my mind occupied.
:grouphug: to you all
Not sure about all the ????s in the above post. For some reason, any punctuation symbolsmarks (is that the right term - my brain is blocked) I typed, all turned out as question marks......
Wishes, thanks for your response. How frustrating for you! I have to say I'd be much happier they have found the problem now than have my procedure cancelled with only 2 days to EPU. I hope that the syneral will kick in and I won't have to try a different drug. Is that what happened to you when it didn't work the first time or did they just increase the dose like they have with me? Sending wishes back for your next try (you know what they say about the third time being a charm :goodluck:
Persephone1, sorry to hear you were upset by the medicare lady. People can say some thoughtless things sometimes.
Emerald Star, thinking of you every day and sending all my :bluedust::pink-babydust: wishes your way.
Tantee, I've fallen a bit behind you now in schedule with my lack of reaction to the syneral - I'm on double dose now though so by next Thursday I'll be 24 days on it with a week of that doubled up so should be working by then.
AFM: I've calmed down a lot since yesterday. Rang my Mum for over an hour last night and got a lot out of my system - she said she suspected it was too good to be true when I had told her my side effects weren't too bad. Times like this I really wish my family were in Australia (other than DH of course) cos they're great at calming me down - and for hugs :lol: Anyway here's hoping things get back in line for next week. :crossfingers: