best of luck for tomorrow Cheryl - hoping for a great result for you hun!
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best of luck for tomorrow Cheryl - hoping for a great result for you hun!
Will be thinking of you tomorrow Chez...good luck hun xxx
Hi everyone
Thanks for your kind words and thoughts - am feeling a bit nervous and excited but so much more relaxed than last time... here's hoping we make it through to transfer!! :pray:
Will pop in when I can to let you all know how it went.
Take care everyone.
Cherylxxx
Hi Everyone!!!
I really need to go and have a shower & get organised, but just wanted to quickly pop in and wish Chez all the very best for today!!!
I have every confidence that this one will be amazingly better... I said that to Jo, and look what happened to her this cycle ;)
Can't wait to hear your results this afternoon, sweetie xxx
Quick hi to everyone else... I'll pop back in later on this morning!!!
Love Holly
xxx :D
Good luck today Cheryl! Fingers crossed for you.
Hi to everyone else, hope you are all happy and well today.
Well I leave for a few days (ok weeks) and now you're all up to thread no 3!!! Looks like there's been alot of highs and lows here lately, here's hoping there's more good than bad in the months ahead ...
Butterflywarrior - My heart just aches for you sweetness, life can be so cruel and unfair sometimes. I wish I had the magic words to take all the pain and sadness away, but I don't, so just know you are in our thoughts and prayers, and that you now have a very precious angel in heaven helping you all the way :hug:
Kotare - Looks like CONGRATUATIONS are in order!!! Well done, you clever chook, you must be chuffed!!! I hope you're getting spoilt like the goddess that you are, and I also pray that you have a very happy and problem free nine months!!!
Briggsy's girl - What would we do without you, our resident cheerleader and prodder of buttock!!! :hug: Y'know you're not allowed to get comfortable in here, we want to see you pregnant!!!!
BeiBei - Sorry you have to go through another stim cycle, but your words of wisdom are true, just take each day as it comes without looking too far ahead or behind, that way you can concentrate on doing your best today and leaving tomorrow for tomorrow ....
Ellie - YAY for finally finding the wench ... here's hoping this cycle's the one and you don't have to see that dastardly lass for another 9 months or so ...
Sonya1 - What wonderful news that the emby stuck, even for a short time. The days until the 10th of August will just fly by I'm sure, and you'll be baby gazing before you know it ...
Rols!!! Our main man. How's your dear lady wife going with the cycle??? All going well??? And thank you for your heads up, the IVF guy we saw is a dynamite guy, I would definately recommend him if you ever decide to switch. Mind you I'm praying like mad that you won't be needing IVF for another 9 months or so ....
Allicat - Ouch!!! Sorry about the unco-operative blood supply, I too have stubborn blood and gosh is hurts to blazes when they go hunting for it!!! Here's hoping it all went well the next time round
mumof5 - The things we do eh??? Here's hoping this AF will treat you kind and quick so you can move onto the next stage ... must be exciting!!!
Chez - Good luck for today!!! Here's hoping it's all goes well and you've got lots of little snowbubs awaiting a new home!!!
Phew!!! That looks like that's all, but to all those that I've missed, howdy and hugs to you all ...
Now as for us??? Well to tell you the honest truth I'm feeling mighty sheepish at the moment. We went to our IVF appointment as planned (paid the $700 airfares and the fee for our first IVF appointment), and Dan had his sperm analysis done just before so the results were as fresh as you can get. We sat there chatting with the IVF doc about the logistics of doing it on the island, and he agreed to a flare cycle (yay!) and we even worked out that we should definately be getting patient travel assistance and the government was just trying to get out of it 'cause it's sodding expensive (typical).
Then he wanted to do an internal u/s to see where my ovaries are at and if they're easily accessible for EPU. So whilst I'm lying there he's having a squizz on the screen and he flat out tells us that this cycle of IVF is already cancelled, and I'm just shocked and stunned and about to ball my eyes out when he tells me the reason it's cancelled is 'cause I'm approx 6w1d pregnant!!!
So I tell him (a highly respected IVF doc) not to be stupid 'cause my treating OB/GYN that did the lap said that there was no chance what-so-ever of me being preggers naturally 'cause of the tubal damage, and even without that I've never ovulated on my own in my life!!!!
With the biggest grin on his face the doc turns the screen towards me and shows us the bub via u/s. Well I just screamed the surgery down and kept telling the doc he was "*****t!ng me" (very elegant) but he said nope. I even quizzed him on it being a molar PG or a blighted ovum, but he said nope to that too.
So there you go, miracles DO happen, and we're one of them. We've never even had a whiff of a PG before, absolutely diddly squat, so we're pretty wrapped.
Pity we couldn't of done it the easy way and just POAS instead of a roundtrip planeflight and a visit with an IVF specialist :doh:
Oh Diva, what great news. Wow! Well done. (the POAS would have been cheaper though hunny!)
Chez - Holly's right, she promised me that my second cycle would go better...and she was right. Good luck :crossfingers:
Diva - that's awesome news hun!! congratulations babe!
Hi Girls,
I know I havent written since I first posted but I have been following all your journeys.
My girl has been on Lucrin now for two weeks and started Purgeon 2 days ago, she is so teary the poor thing, she crys over the smallest things, but i know to her they are big things so I just hold her and let her know everything will be ok. I have been the one doing the injections, i hate the fact that i am causing her pain but i know that it is a positive thng. Her tummy is all bruised and she bleeds when i give her the puregon, is this normal? When i was pregnant I took it all for granted what a miracle this all is, now I dont take any of it for granted and feel blessed that we can legally do IVF in WA as a lesbian couple. It is hard to believe in some countries it is illegal completely, anyway, I digress.
Vic has her bloods from next wednesday and then ultrasound should be around next weekend. We are hoping for 10 eggs, is this a good number? We are big believers in manifesting our thoughts so we want to focus on a good healthy number that will not endager Vic's health.
Anyway, gotto get back to work. Take care all of you, my heart goes out to you all and im sending lots of positve beautiful healing energy your way.
Wowhoo yippee Diva thats awesome news you must be over the moon. Congrats to you and Hubby :confetti:.
Took my last pill yesterday so just waiting for AF to come now.Spray is going well, feel pretty good just a bit tired thats all.
Good luck Chez :pray:
:hello: to everyone else hope all is well
mummy2 - i don't find i bruise from the injections at all (well, no more than twice in 4 cycles) - i find putting immediate pressure on the injection site after the needle and gently massaging helps to disburse the injection. sorry i can't give more advice than that! i've always done my own injections, so honestly not sure if it would make a difference if someone else did it.
as for folliw/egg count, i'd probably be hoping for quality over quantity - 10 is a good count, although, as Blayz can confirm, the number really doesn't matter - you want good eggs that have a high fertilisation rate - i think the norm is for a few to not fertilise - and not all will be high quality if the DO fertilise - so aim for 10+ high quality eggies. i guess unless you head toward OHSS (which you can get even with a low egg count), you're going to go through the same process no matter how many eggs, so it's better to get more in each stim cycle and end up with snow bubba's...
good luck to you both
BG
Thanks BG, i will try the pressure on the injection, site if that helps. Its horrible seeing her black and blue like that! We will focus on quality of eggs as well as number, this is our first try so fingers crossed. Your advice means more than you know.
Thanks again.
mummytwo - we all start out uncertain of what we're doing - and we all help each other - i'd have been lost without the lovely people on BB who've helped me through this far - and i want to be able to offer that same support to someone else
good luck with it all hun - hoping this round of IVF is the one that gets you your much longed for little bubba
Oh Wow Diva, awesome news about your BFP! Congratulations :)
Nic
Thank you so very much everyone, and excuse the tardiness, comp's acting up and I just wanna :throw_computer:
I also just want to let you lovely ladies know that you're in my thoughts and prayers and to never give up. I was told that I wouldn't have a hope in Hades of getting PG naturally, what with my chronic tubal damage and failure to ovulate without assistance, but we did it anyways, much to the shock and delight of the doctors and specialists.
So if it can happen to me it can certainly happen to you, miracles can and DO happen, and you're all far more deserving of this miracle than I am .... :grouphug:
Jesus Diva! Well done. I don't know what to say. Your reaction along with the Doc's would've been worth seeing!
OMG Diva, well done huni :)
Diva - I haven't stopped giggling since reading your post...to think you went all that way...made all those plans...then the u/s...and there's your bub! I wish I could have been there to see that play out...what a hoot! That's the best story I've heard in a long time! Well done...you have lifted my spirits!
it's definitely uplifting hun! made a lot of people's day i'm sure!
congrats again Diva
Definitely Diva! Thanks for sharing the story with us, best of luck for your miracle pregnancy!
oh what a wonderful story congratulations and all the best with your little miricale
Hi MummyTwo ( and one!),
I always jab myself (except the trigger). I got bruises in my second cycle, but not my first - weird, but true. But only about 4/5 bruises, not every time. Being emotional sux, but it's part of the territory - not only drugs, but the whole rollercoaster gets to you some times.
Please don't worry about egg numbers. I got 8 first time, and 13 second time. My first lot were worse quality than my second - so you never ever can tell. Ladies with PCOS tend to get more - i was always jealous of their great numbers, but i learnt not to compare. I never got OHSS (never even close) and both times managed fresh transfers 2 days after EPU as opposed to having to freeze them all due to being too unwell for a transfer. So, we all have our own little quirks - and it's hard to to compare yourself, but we all have such different results. First trys are always a bit of guess work - but plenty of ladies get it right first time - so :crossfingers:
Sorry this turned into a novel! Good luck with the treatment.
Rols - where are you at? DW ok?
Awww shucks, I dunno what to say!!! You guys have been such a huge help to me and if I've made hope burn a little brighter in you then you've made me the happiest gal on earth.
MummyTwo, I hope you have your own very special miracle soon too, and don't worry too much about quantity, as it only takes one sticky one to make it successful!!! :hug:
Hi Everyone :D
Just checking in here to see how Chez went today... She's making us wait!!! ;)
Diva - OMG How perfect!!! What a story to tell your new little person when they get old enough!!!
Your story truly is the miracle we all hope for - and if we can't experience it, its exactly what we all need to keep ourselves positive with a little inspiration!!
You must be so thrilled... biggest congratulations to you both xxx
Mummy2 - Glad to see you're back with us - Hoping your girl is handling everything ok - Its not wonderful, but it will be worth it when you get the result you're praying for!!!
Don't worry too much about numbers - But 10 is a good focus point... Its always the quantity you want more though!
Stay relaxed and keep her tummy warm until EPU, and you guys will be fine xxx
Mum Of 5 - Hope the witch turns up soon for you so you can move on to the next step... I'm on CD 22 now & don't want her visiting me this month, so I'll send her on over to your house ;)
Nic & Sarah - How is the sniffing / jabbing going???!!!
Ellie - You're sounding much better, sweetie - Can't wait to hear news of you starting again xxx
Rols - Whats happening with you guys??
BW & Bei Bei - Hope you guys are doing better, my thoughts are with you hoping things are getting easier xxx
Ali - OW! You sound like me when the nurses started taking blood - They could never find a good vein!! Hope everything is going well for you!
Hi to everyone else I've missed.... Lou, Where arrrreeee yooouuu???!!!
Me - Well CD22 today of my 2nd full cycle on Antonias treatment - Am feeling incredibly fat & bloated, sore BB's, a little nausea and very very tired!!!
Not reading too much into anything though - Had these symptoms last cycle, and AF still came on time... and when I fell with Luke I had no symptoms until after AF was late!!!
Am thinking positive thoughts though - and am still extremely confident that Antonias way is going to be the way for us - and so I'm putting faith into whatever she thinks is best!!!
Anything before the rough estimate she gave us of 4 cycles would be an unexpected little miracle!!!
Hope everyone is great xxx
Love Holly
xxx :D
OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just caught up on posts and am sitiing here bawling my eyes out!!(with happiness)
well done DIVA!!! congrats to you both.
that has to be THE BEST pregnancy story i have EVER, EVER heard!!! i was just sitting here imagining the scene as you so well described....
i bet you didnt need a plane to get you home, you must have floated with happiness the whole way. i believe that must be the best $700 flight and FS appointment you have ever made. and to get to 6weeks without any symptoms..woo hoo.....
cant wait to read your pregnancy journal...
all my hugs and best wishes for a H&H pregnancy... and good onya for avoiding IVF. what a miracle your little one is...
SO... when is the estimated due date of your bubs?????
Hi everyone
Sorry to have made you wait - went for EPU yesterday. Wow - it was all so rushed doing it on a Friday. Last time was on a Saturday and apparently they only do EPUs, no other day procedures, so it was a lot less busy busy! Anyway, glad it was my 2nd time around as there was no time to really sit around and think, just enough to get changed, do the normal pre-EPU question/answer time and then off into theatre! Even though pre-EPU scan had showed 3 follies, we still only got one egg just like last time. So I spent last night convincing myself that we wouldn't go to transfer and did the whole grieving thing and everything. Sat around this morning reading the paper, waiting for the phone call from the clinic to tell us the bad news but it didn't come. Finally, a few minutes before 1pm, DF rang... and WE TRANSFER TOMORROW!!!!!! :dance::D:dance: YAY YAY YAY!!! I am still getting my head around this.... I am so excited and nervous.... maybe this IS our time! Maybe Jo and Diva have started some good news in this thread....
Sorry for the long post, but I couldn't let the good news out straight away ;)
Hope all is still going well with you BG.
Diva - that is amazing news for you! And what a great story for you to share with your little one when they are old enough! It just proves that the doctors don't know everything! Here's hoping you have a happy and healthy pg.
Mummy2 - re the bruising. I have found I got maybe 2 or 3 bruises with the injections and I think it does depend on how tense I am feeling at the time. Lots of deep breaths before and after are good and help if there is any pain. You should also get some Lasonil ointment from the chemist - it is a bruise treatment gel and I use it as soon as I see a bruise start . It really helps to get rid of them quickly as well as relieve any pain if there is any. This stuff is amazing and when I got hit in the face with a hockey stick (accidentally!) a few years ago, it really helped a lot.
To everyone, thanks so much for your support. You are an amazing bunch of ladies and gent. Take care all.
Cherylxxx
yay chez - that's brilliant news hun!! good luck for tomorrow - this is a great thing
sounds like we're on a good run here!
Thanks BG - how are you feeling? Any symptoms?
YAY CHEZ!!! :dance: Here's hoping you defy the odds and the docs too and have a miracle of your very own!!! How so very exciting for you, I've got everything crossed that this time is your time, good luck!!!
Sonya1 - Awww sweetness, I really don't know what to say, thankyou just doesn't seem enough, you've all be champions, brave and honest ladies that put aside so much hurt and frustration to lift up others, you truly are my inspiration.
As for the due date, who knows??? We "think" it'll be aprox the 20th of March, give or take a few days. I'll be having my first "offical" u/s on the 20th of August, so we should have a better idea of dates then.
It's been such a whirlwind, and completely back to front! First the IVF specialist knew, then the OB/GYN (we thought we might as well tell him and get things organised considering we were there, and he always said he wanted to be our OB/GYN if we ever got pregnant), and last but not least, our local GP found out about it yesterday.
I just couldn't help myself, I took the memorystick into the docs and told him that our IVF was cancelled and the IVF dr couldn't do anything for us and he was soooo devastated, and kept saying how sorry he was. When he asked why it couldn't be done I told him that my u/s pics were on the memory stick and that would explain it all.
Well he watched the pics come up and he turns to me with his eyes wide with shock and he said "Is this really what I think I seeing???" and I just nod, and he breaks out into a grin like a cheshire cat, and starts bombarding me with questions of "How could this happen? and What a lovely miracle!!!"
He then told me that we must take extra care of this "very special, miracle baby" (his words but I totally agree!) so I'm on light housekeeping only (not allowed to lift anything heavier than a glass), gentle walks, and to lie down and put my feet up as much as possible ...
He's been a real gem ... just like all of you!!! And funnily enough he dispensed with the PG BT, I wonder why??? :cryinglaugh:
hiya chez
i'm doing pretty ok. haven't noticed anything outwardly "pg" since iui, but i'm only onto day 3 really, so can't be expecting too much. i have however noticed that either my blood sugars or my blood pressure is giving me grief past couple of days - i've been getting dizzy at the weirdest times.... DH keeps looking at my tum and doesn't get teh whole "it takes more than a few days for implantation" thing - i hope we don't have implantation yet - i think that would make the ectopic risk far too great. another day or two would be perfect for implantation! i'm thinking it's more the fact that the trigger shot gives similar hormone levels to a new pregnancy, so that's what i'm suffering with (yay, being pg is gonna be so much fun if this is any sign). i'm pretty calm about it all for the moment, so we'll just see how we go
Hi BG - yeh I guess I was being a bit optimistic about symptoms this early on... I had dizzy spells in my first cycle, when I was on the injections... a bit like vertigo must feel like when I stood up after having sat down for a while at my desk and when I got out of bed in the middle of the night as well. They all seemed to disappear so I just put it down as a side affect of the drugs. I didn't have any this cycle at all but it was fairly short!
Are you having pregnyl shots or using crinone gel? My FS wants me to use both - I think it was Holly telling me I would need LOTS of liners!! What are you on? I am a bit worried that it will mess with my head... I have a job interview on Thursday and possibly another that day or early the following week so I would like to be on top of things mentally. The first one is a phone interview, which I never enjoy - I always come away feeling like I didn't do very well :rolleyes:
Cherylxxx
i am just on the pregnyl shots - haven't been subjected to crinone yet
i don't find it messes with my mind too much - just the dizzyness the last day or so which may or may not be related (could be paint fumes finally getting to me too!)
i'm holding onto hope, but not putting myself under any stress this time around, and the change in mindset has been amazing. i think last time i ended up pretty worked up cos i was bruised from the iui process (ouchies - never realised a bruised urethra could hurt that much!) - and the physical manifested itself as massive turmoil emotionally. this time, it didn't hurt, so it's put me in a different place mentally, which is awesome
take care hun - and good luck with the job interviews! phone interviews suck - just remember, smile when you're talking (it comes through in your voice) - and for all questions, try to give situation, action/repsonse and outcome - that's what they always seem to look for!
Fantastic news, Chez!!!! :clap:
I told you this cycle would be better than the last one! ;)
Best of luck for your transfer tomorrow.... and afterwards you have to come home and do absolutely nothing for as long as possible!!!!
And, yes, it was me telling you about the liners... if you're having both the pregnyl and the crinone you WILL need them!!!!
Ah the joys.... but it will all be sooo worth it in the end!!!
BG - Hope you're feeling better soon if its the drugs, but if its not... Hope the sickness hangs around for approx another 12 weeks ;) xxx
Me - I'm with you today BG, feeling very very ew in the tummy!
Luke and I went for sushi for lunch today (i was only going to have cooked tuna JIC!!), but the smell of it bowled me over walking up to the counter.... Luke ate his lunch and mine today!!!!
Everything has made me feel extremely average since about this time yesterday! BBs are sore, and just feeling incredibly feral - My skin, hair, everything... here's hoping its all for the right reasons!!!
Hope everyone else is doing great!!!
Love Holly
xxx :D
Chez, :crossfingers: and loads of :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:
I had crinone with both my fresh transfers. I think as long as you are aware that it can give you all the side effects possible, then you will be OK. It may give you none at all, but go very easy on yourself (DH is to do all cooking, cleaning, decision making, and foot rubs!). I had a weird two weeks emotionally. I know others have had physical and emotional side effects.
Also...what goes up, must come down IYKWIM?! It resembles cottage cheese, and if you already feel a bit teary...seeing that stuff coming out can make you feel like a real lady!!!
But in the end it will all be worth it, and I am looking forward to more 2008 babies being born!!!
BG - pleased you are in a better place this time around. That's gotta be a good thing right? I can't remember - are we having triplets again this time...or were there lovely twin follies? Waiting is cruel!
ETA : Ohhh Holly. I hope this all means good things. Repeat what i said above...waiting is cruel! Bet Luke doesn't care though! More food is always good!!
only a singleton this time jo - but at this stage i'll be more than happy with one!
holly - as crummy as it is to feel yuk, i have my fingers crossed it's for a good reason and a reasonably long time!
Chez - Great result hun! Will be thinking of you tomorrow! Best of Luck xxx
BG - All sounding promising...have everything crossed for you!
Can't remember everything I read on the last few pages so sorry for the lack of personals! So much happening here I can't keep up!
Me - Had my 2nd injection this morning. Only on 25 of puregon daily next BT Wednesday...E2 has to be over 1000 before trigger then 3 boosts with transfer somewhere in the middle if our little blasties survive the thaw.
My added complication to all this is my brother's girlfriend is 38 weeks pregnant (it was an accident????)...she sent me an email yesterday to say she will be induced on the 9th if nothing happens before...which is about when things could get busy for us with FET...the thing is my parents are really pressuring me to stay with us when they come to town for 'the birth'...I told them straight up after m/c that I didn't think I could cope with more than visiting the hospital...having them stay would just be too much...they are so excited and I'm already finding it all so hard to deal with as they 'accidentally' got pregnant etc etc and no one gets the 8 years of hell we have been through...this is so not going to help for a stress free cycle....sorry for the vent...I just want to be left alone and give these blasties the best chance...and I didn't want to tell them we are doing a cycle as they drive me NUTS!!!!!! What to do????
Ellie...I won't post much, but i wanted to say that you need to put yourself first. You really do. Don't put any more pressure on yourself than you have to. Be strong...but firm. No one will ever 'get' the hell you have been through...but you need to protect yourself. :grouphug:
Ellie - Whilst I don't know the full story I'm 100% behind Kotare, you, your wonderful man and your gorgeous blasties are what matter most right now, so lock the door, batten down the hatches and flip the bird to the world!!!
Tell them you have gastro, or the house is being renovated, or you've been taken up by alien life forms, if they love you they won't ask why, and if they don't love you then it won't matter if you offend.
IVF is hard enough as it is darl, and it's not cheap either so make this time all about you and your man and those blasties, they'll be time enough to kiss and make up when your preggers ...
Huge :hug: to you.
Diva - that is fantastic news - what a great surprise for you & Dan. I hope you have a great pregnancy!
Chez - great news - good luck tomorrow!
BG - I really hope this is your time - I like Ellie have everything crossed for you :crossfingers:
Me - went & had my b/t & u/s & the doc rang to say that they weren't able to go ahead because there were too many large follicles. He did however give me the option of switching to an IVF cycle as I am at a stage where it is looking good for this. After many tears & stressing about what to do I decided to do this. I am so scared & worried...what if this isn't the right decision, should we have waited & given IUI another go?!?! So confused! I went & had an antagonist injection (which has left a nice lump) to halt ovulation & am going back to get b/t tomorrow. If all still looks ok will be going in on Wednesday for EPU.
OMG - I feel like I am in a whirlwind...I just hope we made the right decision...now comes working out how to pay for it! What would we do without VISA!!!
BW - how are you hun? I have been thinking of you - hope you're okay.
Hi to everyone else - hope you are all have a good weekend :D
Ali hun - i've had the same thought many times - if we had too many follies, would we be able to move rom iui to ivf - i know what a tough call this is, but i believe you've made a great decision - having been through cancelled IUI's more than once,it's heart breaking - and (finances aside) - you're still moving forward, which is awesome hun. i will agree though - the antagonist shot i had to have (cetrotide) was a bit ouchy!
best of luck with moving to EPU in the next few days
Ellie - like the others have so beautifully said, this is a time when you have to put yourself and your hubby first. you are emotionally drained enough as it is without the added stress of having your parents stay there gushing over the new family member. be kind to yourself, stand strong with your parents, and make sure you put yourself first