Shades I'm so sorry. I know how hard a BFN can be. And your med team being on hiatus over Xmas when your body is not makes it even worse.
:-(
OP.
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Shades I'm so sorry. I know how hard a BFN can be. And your med team being on hiatus over Xmas when your body is not makes it even worse.
:-(
OP.
OP - I just logged on to see your happy news - Im happy for you and glad you can take a breather .. and enjoy christmas, it is a wonderful sight seeing your bubba's heatbeat .. WOW an island that you need a helipcopter to get to, its not near Port Douglas is it ? We were shown that island in Oct, $11,000 a NIGHT !!! and you need a heli to get to it ..
Oh Shades : Hugs for you, what a high and low week to have on a holiday - have you made sure your right for implantation, had all the tests etc ?
WLAB - Not sure what tests I would need? I have a 'normal' LP of 14 days, ultrasounds haven't detected any abnormalities in uterine shape or lining... As far as I'm aware, it would have had to be able to implant for me to get a + test at all right? I sort of came to the conclusion that it must have been a genetic issue with the embryo. My FS is away until Feb anyway so no more trying for now.
Oh, reading through all the messages I was like "yay! fantastic!" then my heart broke for you Shades. OP - what fantastic news, seeing a heart beat must have just made you smile/cry/laugh/all that stuff! Told you your bloods were fine!
Shades, what a disappointment for you. Very sad. It could have been a lot of things but at any rate, very sad.
bella - what did you decide? to poas or not to poas? I will be poas tomorrow morning (AF due today and it's not here yet and no symptoms of it). No symptoms of pregnancy either, but live in hope, that's what I say!
WLAB - how are you finding the BBT?
Anyway, I'll let you know what the stick says at some stage tomorrow - I'm having my Christmas party so might not be online but if it's a BFP I'll be wanting to tell someone! I'm shocking at keeping my own secrets... If it's a BFN I might try to get in to see my doctor this week and do a BT if AF doesn't come.
Hi Everyone,
OP- Wow!!! :dance::dance: congrats i'm soooo excited for you. Take care and i hope this has taken a huge weight off your shoulders. xx
Shades - :kissing: oh hun i'm so sorry for you. Take care of yourself and remember it's ok to cry and feel free to pm me if you feel like a chat. xx
WBM- good luck tom i have my fingers and toes crossed :pray::pray:
WLAB- how are you.xxx
AFM - well i had the worst pain yest arvo it was like a wind pain or constipation pain (sorry tmi) i was doubled over took some panadol and went to sleep then it went away??????????? Anyway i don't feel very hopeful for tom but will wait and see. I just feel fat! I did HPT this am i know i'm an idiot but anyway it was BFN then i looked at it again about an hour latter and there was the faintest i mean faintest second line ever. Anyway i will know tom so pray for me girls!!!!!!!!
will update tom.
xxBella
Hi Guys,
OP - congrats on your results. That is fantastic news, you must have breathed a sigh of relief.
WLAB - thanks for thinking of me. Went to my FS appt on tues,and yes, starting an IVF cycle on Day 21, which is Dec 27th, so just trying to find the money for it. Went to my natropath appt also who found a zinc deficiency. I was quite surprised, I eat well, take a multi vitamin, simply didnt think I would be missing anything.
Shades - honey, I am so sorry. Sounds like a chemical pregnancy. I experienced this on my first IUI cycle. But there is some sort of comfort to be found in the fact that you know that fertilisation and implantation can happen. I hope you are doing ok.
Bella - good luck!! I hope this cycle will bring you success and a great xmas pressie.
I am off work now on going on holidays so will be offline. Also, i will be straight into an IVF cycle so not sure if i will be much help to you IUI girls. But I will still lurk on you all and follow your journeys. Good luck to each of you and merry christmas to you all and your families. Thank you for all your support.
Diamond and Bella, thank you.
Diamond - you're right about it being a small relief to know that conception and implantation can at least occur... I've been looking at some stats and I've seen in a few places they reckon 50 - 60 % of first pregnancies are chemical only (it's weird - like the body needs a 'practice run' before it gets it right)... and it doesn't increase the likelihood of having one again.
Bella - best of luck - hope that second line was a real one!
Good morning all!
Well got my BT results levels were 6.8? I'm not feeling very hopeful but the range stated: 2.9-25 is equivicol in early pregnancy suggest re-test in 2 days to see if doubled?
I'm feeling very worried but trying to stay positive from what i have found on the net and in BB the level should really be at min above 20 but did find that under 5 is a definate negative so fingers crossed and :pray: hard
xxBella
Hi Bella,
Sweet Im not sure what to say. I do believe it is correct that the result must be over 25-30 to be considered a pos. But that being said, nothing is set in stone yet and your levels could very well go up from here. Hence the second test in 2 days time.Did you get a prog result as well? I know it is easier said than done, but try to relax and busy yourself with something else to fill in the time.
Thinking and praying for you....
:crossfingers: and :goodluck: for you Bella
Bella :crossfingers: for you , I hope your levels rise x
Shades: You need to have a BT sweets
Diamond: I was going to leave you a message yesterday, and I thought you wouldn't be back on, so I am glad u r ... I will be looking out for you, I wanted to ask about your clinic and the day 21, start to IVF, my clinic starts meds on day 3 - it's so cosy in this thread, it will be hard to leave - let me know what thread you move to, I would love to chat about your new cycle
Hi 2 wannabmum and op
I just did another HPT - more sensitive than the last and there's only the tiniest faintest glimmer of a maybe-I'm-imagining-it line so I'm thinking it's time to let go of the false hope.
Shades : I cannot stress enough my love, you need a BT .. If it were me, I would be going to a local GP with a BT facility attached, and get it ticked "urgent", you will no either way by tommorow night..
Thank you for the advice WLAB, but I really think I do know for sure at this point. The nausea and tender bbs have subsided, the HPT was pretty much negative and I'm still bleeding/cramping. I don't drink/smoke/do drugs/do anything usually that would be considered a risk factor so even if I am still pregnant I'm not jeopardizing it. I'm still taking my daily folate and eating healthily. If I need painkillers I take only panadol, and I'm still having less than 50mg of caffeine a day, if that much. There's nothing I would do different whatever the BT showed, so is there any point?
Shades - I cannot stress enough do not poas - they are unreliable, they may be reading residual hcg from your injections. I notice your ticker says day 4 - have you have full flow bleeding yet????
Hi WLAB - yes this thread is very cosy. I feel like I dont have a home yet and unsure where to go. Are you on the IVF thread? Yes - I start day 21 of this cycle on the syranel nasel spray, then wait for period, the start fsh injections as per an IUI cycle. Im glad to throw myself straight into a new cycle - patience is not my virtue and I just wanna be a mum!!;);)
Diamond - my injections are only 5000 ... last cycle I had a trigger, did a 10iu/L HPT at 11 DPO and it was negative so I figured this cycle it would have well and truly cleared out by 17 DPO which was when I tested. And my AF is NEVER late, so when it ran 3 days over I knew something was up.
My ticker automatically resets from the first day of full bleeding, which was heavy on day one and two, then spotting/light bleeding on days 3 and 4.
Shades : Well one good thing is that you know it can happen, thats a start, I hope Feb 09 is good for you
Diamond: The original thread I was in was LTTTC Ass Conc Oct 08 - then on to the TWW Thread, then I found this thread as I was having IUI, not sure where I will lay my hat this time, Im just lurking atm, I am 41 so I have met sum lovely ladies in "older ladies ttc" and TTC after m/c, I have found reading IVF with PGD very informative, and all the girls in there are very supportive, as you know, I am flat out remembering to inject myself with puregon, so I find it hard keeping up with the bigger threads, I am currently dropping hints to DH that I am ready to start on a Flare Cycle on the 9th Jan, he wants me to wait till the 9th Feb ... so I will be ready to lay my little nest in a thread, (DH willing on the 9th JANUARY 2009 .... BRING ON THE BFP'S ...)
Hi all
How is everyone going? ... OP how r u ? Diamond, Shades & WBM
Bella, BT for you today my friend, let me know how you go
I'll probably just be lurking for a while, not wanting to continue obsessing too much when I can't try again til Feb.
Hi Everyone,
Well sadly AF arrived at 0600 this am - full force:doh:
I'm deverstated - tried to do half day at work but only managed a quarter. I will probably be lurking for a while need it all to sink in and get through christmas - i so thought this would be it but...........
Good luck to you all, take care over the christmas period.
BRING ON BFP FOR 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXBella
You and me both Bella. Except for me it was last night. Had a BFN on Saturday but was still hopeful when AF didn't arrive. Unfortunately no luck for us either. So at least one more natural cycle before IUI in late Jan (after current cycle). I'll be joining WLAB in the BBT charting. I've found fertility friend really good actually.
I agree - bring on the BFPs for 2009!!!!!:grouphug: for all of us. Even if it feels like :wall: most of the time. It'll be worth it in the long run.
Have a great Christmas! I'll try to actually get on here rather than lurking, but you never know.
Take care all, good luck for the IVF cycles girls, I'll be interested to hear how you make out with that!
Merry Christmas Girls - I hope Santa brings you everything you wish for
xx
Hi There
just wondering if anyone has used synarel for a down reg iui? if so, how many days late was AF? I'm on CD 39 with a little cramping (like O- but bt said i had O-ed between 13-17th of DEC). I have to test tomorrow (poas) as I am ment to start puregon on 31st. What happens if poas is neg? has this happened to anyone? this is my 1st down reg cycle.
Thanks, any comments would be good to hear
Toby - I cant help you- can you ring your clinic ?
Hi Everyone,
Hope everyone had a wonderful christmas.
Toby - i have just done a down reg cycle with syneral. I started on CD21- 1 week later they repeated my bloods p4 e2 and hcg to make sure my levels were basline and to ensure i wasn't pregnant. My levels p4 and e2 were still a bit high so i did another week of spray and was due for repeat bloods on CD28 - AF arrived CD28 they did my bloods anyway and they were basline so i started my injections on CD30 (which was really CD2 ).
What do you mean you are POAS - hpt? they need to make sure your p4 and e2 are basline (which is the purpose of the syneral) before they take over with the puregon. I was also told you may not definately get a period and thats why they just keep an eye on your levels because once they are basline you can start the puregon. Is there anyone you can ring? Hope you have great success with your cycle mine worked really well - well i didn't get a bfp BUT i had lots of nice follices etc!
WBAM - how are you going i hope you have your chin up and had a great christmas - same to you shades!
OP- how are you feeling hun? hope your well
Hi to everyone else.
I'm off to work.
xxBella
thanks for the relpy Bella. Well Af arrived this arvo, so will cont. with sniffing and be gin injecting on wed. My bt on cd 21 showed i hadnt ov. yet a week later they showed i had - was hoping a miracle happened during that week - naturally. I started sniffing on cd 28 - perhaps thats y im soooo late. I dont go for another bt until the 5th. The reason why i was so confused is that i was told i would get af and it would be heavy but everyone on here has said otherwise! oh well.
Bella are u in the 2 ww? I was also on 3 cycles of clomid and hav had 1 antag iui. Is this the 1st down reg for you?
Hi Folks!
Just read over everybody's updates. Bella, sorry about the bad news. I was really hopeful for you on this cycle. Just remember, when it seems the most hopeless a miracle can happen.
Diamond, good luck darlin' - my thoughts are with you for your first IVF cycle. Please feel free to chat your head off if you feel at all worried. This journey can seem lonely and frightening at times.
AFM - I am still pregnant. Boobs really heavy and sore. No other symptoms other than tiredness. I understand B6 helps fend off morning sickness. I take high doses of that, and I'm thankful. I cant stress enough to all of you how much I believe B6 got my across the line.
In other news, my darling dog died yesterday. I am absolutely devastated. Trying so hard not to cry too much for the baby's sake, but honestly, I am heartbroken.
:-(
OP.
OP - Congrats on your BFP!!! how exciting! So sorry to hear about your dog. As they are members of the family it makes that time very hard to cope with. - your dog will always be by your side. My thoughts are with you. Take Care!
Hi everyone,
I wandered upon this thread and wanted to say hi, and to join in. I'm about to begin my second IUI cycle (CD2 today), I had my Day 21 ultrasound last month and all was good, and my BT today was fine so I'm doing a natural cycle (with trigger and luteal support).
My partner and I are a same sex couple with an unknown donor, I'm 32 years old, live in Perth and I have PCOS but that doesn't seem to be too big an issue these days.
Hi Babysteps and Welcome. We'v we all found great support through this thread. There's a couple of PCOS girls on here, so you're in good company. And I don't think PCOS is a barrier. Mindset is everything!
Thanks for your kind words Toby. Each day I feel a little better. I think actually having to put your dog down is the worst thing on the planet when you love your dog like he was your child. I've struggled so hard with the guilt, even though I know I did the right thing. I just miss him so much.
OP.
Hi Everyone,
Welcome babysteps - best of luck to you and your partner. i hope you find this site and this forum as supportive na dinformative as i do!
Wow OP - 8weeks - have you told family yet?
Toby - how are the injections going hun? I did x1 antag IUI cycle which was cancelled and i just finished my first down reg but got BFN. GL xx
WBM - hOW ARE YOU - HOPE YOU GOT THROUGH cHRISTMAS AND nEW yEAR (damn caps lock!) When are you starting again?
Hi to shades, WLAB, diamond and anyone i have missed.
AFM - well i'm feeling good about moving forward in 2009. I have a naturopath appointment on the 8th and a follow up appointment with my FS on the 19th, plus i will be making an appointment with another recommended FS at MIVF for a second opinion. So this month is natural and probably next depending on the advice from all my appointments. DH and i are going to go to Tassie end of Feb and i'm going to take most of March off work - to relax and de-stress!
By the way everyone- a friend (actually from BB) recommended me a book "Getting Pregnant" by Prof Robert Jansen and i finally got it a few days back and it's absolutly fantastic resource and DH has loved it also - i would highly recommend it.
Have day off today so about to go out shopping.
xx to everyone
xxBella
WElcome Bsteps!
OP - hope you are feeling a little better. Yes I agree, it is terrible. Mine was 2 yrs ago and I still miss him very much and cry at times, even though I have 2 other dogs now.
How are you feeling with the preg? any morning sickness? hope not!
Bella - Enjoy your break! I bet you are looking forward to it! Must check that book out - ta!
AFM - 3rd day of injections and still sniffing. BT on Monday.
Welcome Toby and Babysteps! Good to have new people - I'm constantly amazed at all the different types of cycles we can all go through.
Babysteps, I also have PCOS, and never thought it gave me any problems until it came to conception. Oh well, it's a spectrum thing - hope yours continues to cause no problems!
Toby, good luck for BT tomorrow.
OP - I'm so sorry to hear about your dog. I have an 18-year old dog (got her when I was all of 12) and it really scares me that I'll lose her one day. Remember that they certainly are members of the gamily and you are definitely allowed to grieve.
Bella - sounds like a good, positive start to 2009. I'm jealous of your upcoming holidays - sounds like they'll be fun!
AFM: I'm back to work tomorrow after a great holiday. Am still with the naturopath and BBT charting away. I'll be starting my IUI cycle when AF arrives (hopefully around 20 Jan). Although I did ovulate naturally last cycle and the charting is looking positive for this cycle also. So my hopes are still there that we'll have a natural miracle. I'm off to the GP this week for something else, so I'm going to get a BT there (P4 and thyroid). I have a low BBT (35.9) that the naturopath thinks may be thyroid related (even though I've always need normal). She wants to have a look so what the hey, I'll get the bloods done!
That's me for now - more people in my life are getting married and getting pregnant. It's hard not to feel jealous some times (for the pregnancy thing anyway - already got the ring) but I try to just be happy for people.
So - happier things - anyone made a new years resolution? I know I shouldn't be drinking anyway, so I've decided to not drink until we have a baby. Unless we're not pregnant by my 30th, then that night will be the exception. Also putting my health first in 2009.
Howdy,
My news year's resolution is to always spend Christmas in my own home. Danged if I'm changing my plans to suit others ever again.
:-)
OP.
Hi everyone
Thanks for the welcome WBM! I know what you mean! most of my friends have children and cant stand it when they talk non stop about them. I usually get up and go to the loo or change the subject. I find it not only uncompfortable but rude as well as myself and 2 others dont have children. Even if i wasnt ttc i wouldnt be interested. Some people really do change when they have children. aaahhhhhh! do other people feel the same as me? I've been invited to a friends house next week, she lives near a beach so everyone is taking their kids, I wont be going, even though I love my friends I dont think I can handle it atm.
Only 5 or 6 ppl know what DH and I are going through, as I dont want the world to know and looks like we will have to tell my bigmouth SIL as she is expecting us to go to brissy next week and we are waiting to find out when insemination is so we can go after that. She is complaining that we dont want to see her and her kids. so told DH he might have to call her tonite and explain the reason for the delay.
how do other people deal with telling ppl or not telling people about whats going on?
Sorry for the vent. I do get stressed about this at times. Which I know is silly.
Hope everyone is well and being positive! And right on OP- sometimes you need to look after yourself ! hope you are ok!! no real resolutions - only not to eat as much!
cheers
Hi Girls
Back from hols, and happy to hear everyone is going well..
OP - a bitter/sweet few weeks for you, sorry to hear about your beloved dog :-( , but very happy to hear everything is going well with bubbs ..
Look forward to reading the posts and seeing how everyone is ..
AFM: AF arrived today, just as I returned home from hols, so I am about to ring the clinic and start day 1 tommorow, (Flare IVF) .. but I will still be popping in to see how you all are ..
OP - you know how much I love your guidence and advice .. so stay close for me, won't you ..
Hi Toby,
Dealing with family and friends as you travel on this journey is very challenging. I could hardly believe it when I colleague told me she'd lost friends during her 3 year TTC journey. Yet last year I had a feud with a very non-sympathetic aunt who turned destructive and I've refused to speak to her since. It breaks my heart, but she was so nasty that I had to cut her off to protect myself.
At the same time, I do think it's important to tell family, because it's surprising how much support they can offer. My mother-in-law came to visit right at a time when my husband needed her most. We just poured our hearts out to her and she was so understanding and supportive, especially since our challenge was male factor. She helped us decide not to tell DH's father we were doing DI, because he just wouldn't understand.
I feel it's best to decide on a case by case basis what social activities you attend. I always accepted baby shower and naming day invites, but was a no show on the day because I couldn't cope. Very rude, I know, but I honestly wouldn't have been a good guest. I was telling Diamond the story of the new baby I knew was in my neighbourhood - I could hear it crying every day. When I realised it was my immediate next door neighbour I was floored - she'd just had a 2nd baby 12 months ago. She took to playing with her THREE kids in her backyard every day when I got home from work. I had to shut the French doors and put the stereo on to block the sound because it was just too painful for me.
There is no formula to dealing with the social impacts of this journey. Always do what's best for you - don't ever put yourself in a setting that's going to be counter productive. When you do feel bad, here's my tip: put on an empowering song really loud and sing your guts out. Don't worry about feeling silly - no one will see you. "Fighter" by Christina Aguilera is a good one. Although for some reason "It's Raining Men" was equally as cheerful for me.
:-)
P.
Heya WLAB - good luck for the next round! Can you fill me in on what a flare IVF cycle is. Interested to know how it's different to the down reg cycle.
And of course I'll be here - as long as nobody is disturbed by having a preggers girl around. Hopefully I'm a symbol of hope, not disappointment.
:-)
OP.
Hi Bella, who are you seeing at MIVF for your second op ?
OP - Flare: it's a cycle without "the pill" - but with the Nasal Spray, then injections of gonal f, my last cycle was straight into "jabbing" at day 3, which is antagonist... How are you going with everything, are you going to move in to the preg thread? as well as keep everyone company here. You are so much help OP - the girls would be rapt to have your advice ...
Wow OP thanks so much for your advice. It's good to know I'm not the only one that feels that way! You MUST stick around, as wouldluvva said you really do have fantastic advice! You are also an inspiration, as many of the websites i ve looked at dont really give IUI a chance at getting UTD! It's good for me to see a success story like you. I'm getting emotional now! Ha! betta go! Thanks.
BTW DH is going to call SIL tonite and just brief her on whats going on. He said he's not going into detail. I said fair enough! you see, he hasn't told his mum, not sure if he will! I'm sure SIL will tell her - hmm!
Take care