LT TTC after Miscarriage and Loss #2

:hug:Hi Ladies

Oh thank goodness Dory is ok.

Yay Ferrals! That talking to must have done wonders lol. Good Luck!

Mum-to-be - :hug::hug:

Matthew's Mum - What a crappy thing to hear and knowing what a dead beat your ex is. My ex is a dead beat as well!

Saffy - It may end up being a fabulous night! But I know what your saying. I don't want to go any where or see anyone at the moment. I dread all the questions. Boo to AF!

Sunbeam - I'm glad your back is better. Good luck for your scan!

Alice - Yay for your chart! That's one item off of the list yeah? Next is....

happybaby - Hope the BDing pays off!

Kaybee - :hug: I have no idea what you are going through. I really hope it works out for you.

Craftymummy9 - Keep up that BDing! You never know what the furture has in store.

I hope I got every one but If I missed you Hi!

AFM - Still sniffing away only on BCP untill Sunday and then we can hopefully get AF and start injections on CD6. I wish this week would hurry the heck up. I'm over the waiting alrerady. Is anyone else on Metformin? Is a side effect nausea? I feel like utter crap. I'm nauseaous most of the day. The only thing I can put it down to is the metformin as that's really the only new thing I'm on. The synarel is fine. Not having many side effects from that as yet but this nausea is killing me.

alice-sorry to hear about your friend,glad she has you to help her through this...porshe-when are you taking the metformin,i take mine just before bed & don't find the nausea too bad,i find it worse if i eat something naughty(like chocolate mud cake),or anything fried(like fish & chips)straight to the loo.

Hey ladies,

It's so busy in here!

Alice - what an awful story about your friend. She's lucky to have someone like you around.

Porsche - I haven't had metformin before - what's it do? Have you asked your nurse (or google) if there's anything you can do to help with the nausea? (Thanks for the hug!!)

Matthew's mum - I love your nasty thoughts - totally understandable. You'll probably be the one making them jealous though. You're right about our future hopes too. I guess it's impossible to switch off our dreams

Saffy - sounds like Saturday night will be ok. I would have said 'no, don't go' - I can't deal with those type of nights during emotional times, but it sounds like you'll have an ally there - it could end up being a really good night.

Sunbeam - thanks for your support. I'm trying not to cling to those one in a million stories, but it's hard not too. Best best best of luck for Friday's scan

I've got to go - thanks again for all of your kind words - have a good night

Hi Ladies

Matthews Mum - That is a good idea. I might take my meds at night and see how we go. I usually take them all in the morning.

Kaybee - Metformin is primarily used for Diabetics. My Mum is on it for her diabetes. But in my case I have PCO and metformin has something to do with regulating my insulin levels. I'm not aware of having any problems there but I do beleive that most FS will make you take it anyway if you have PCO. I have 4 tablets of 500mg a day so that's 2000mg. I do beleive my FS will make me take it until birth when we get UTD.

Hello there

Matt's Mum I'll be taking a HT tablet that is normally prescribed to menopausal women. I was hoping the FET would be drug free but my FS says the tablets are needed to grow a thick lining. I have to take Crinone as well after the transfer.

Alice A big hello to you because I forgot you in my last post. You're like a pillar of strength with all the support you offer to everyone of us and your friends. I'm going to look up the recipe for Jamie O's Chicken soup. I used one of his recipes the other night to cook Fish pie and it was so delicious. I really hope you get your baby soon.

Kaybe Reading your signature - are all your FETS from your first stim cycle in 2007? If so that's amazing.

My DH came to bed late last night and he was supposed to wake me up for :bd: But of course he didn't. So annoyed because today is O day but I managed to BD this morning. FX this one works this month.
Best of luck for tomorrow, I know it's a big day for some of us.
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morning everyone-porshe-i've also heard of breaking the dose up through the day to help with side effects...happybaby-interresting about the ht tablets,my last transfer was a natural fet & bt indicated embryo didn't implant at all,same as fresh embryo after stim cycle.i have asked about my lining,told that bt indicated is was thick enough,but i've also been told i'm peri-menopausal,maybe there is a problem with my lining & it is just not getting picked up.I'm going to query it again

morning ladies,

Happybaby- that scenario sounds familiar to me, I always get paranoid and think dh is avoiding BDing, its such a pain having to force yourself on them. I hope you catch the egg, sounds like your timing was good, all it takes is one but its annoying when you miss an oppurtunity, they only come around once a month for god's sake!! good luck xx

:bluecheer: GOOD LUCK sunbeam and Ferals for tomorrow:cheer:

Hello to- Alice, Porsche,Matthewsmum, Kaybee, crafty and mumtobe, hope today is great for you all xx

CD1 for me, woke up in a mess cos AF came overnight with NO pain! Never happened before must be the acupuncture. Also in a happy mood, starting the bcp, rang nurse to make my appt, even have enough $$ in the bank to pay for ivf, and I feel like now it is someone else's problem to get me pregnant!! That sounds silly i know but I feel like a weight is lifted off my shoulders. :)

G'day!

Sorry Ive been missing in action! Im on holidays so busy fluttering around and spending time with my family! Were off to the Gold Coast tomorrow for 3 nights, we were suppose to leave yesterday but with everything happening with our parents health, we wanted to stay around a little longer! Anyway we still get 3 nights away so really looking forward to tomorrow!

Im a little behind but Good Luck to Ferrals and Sunbeam for tomorrow! Will be thinking of you both, Ill try and check in from DH iPhone to see how everything is!

Saffy - CD1 - May it be the freshest start to fabulous things! Glad your in good spirits! Im CD 5 and have shocked myself by how happy I have been this time round! Normally Im still rocking in the corner at this stage! Serious!!! :) Anyway good luck!

Welcome to the new girls - Im so sorry for the pain you are going thru, it is so devastating. No words can express the raw emotion and heartbreak that we have felt, I hope we can help you thru it. They are a great bunch of LTTTCAML 'ers!

Hi to all I have missed - Porsche, ALice, Crafty , Matthewsmum, Mildez.. eik I know IM missing a lot of you!! But G'day anyway!!!

And Sunbeam - Ive seen Eclipse 3 times so far!!! Love love love love it!! Cant get enough, DH promised we can see it again while we are away! Yipppeee!!! xx

AFM - AF has just about left the building, OMG - so heavy! I havent bled like that since I was 18! WOW! Dunno if its a good thing or not but no clots, great flow! Heavy to Med to light!!! How things should be i guess!! Ahh the things we get excited about huh??! Very sad! OOohh and my temps have been perfect too Alice!! Yahooooo! Makes me happy!!!

Anyway gotta fly, off to visit Dad in hospital and pack my bags for tomorrow!

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Morning Ladies

Big good luck to Sunbeam & Ferrals!

Anyone watching Today this morning?

AFM 2 more days of pill poping. Really ready to get this show on the road now!

Good luck Sunbeam and Ferrals Today.

Happybaby glad you got a BD hope it catches the egg and you get a BFP in just over a week or two.

porsche not watching Today what was on? Hope the pill popping is going good not long now.

T-hopes I hope you have a wonderful time away. Glad AF has left. Maybe there is something in the air with heavy AF. Mine is the same CD3 today yesterday OMG I wont go into details but it was like I was having a postpartum haemorrage but obviously without the baby. AF was supser early for me so definately wasn't a chemical pregnancy.

Saffy wish a miracle BFP came instead of AF but yeah for starting your cycle.

Well I had my appointment yesterday. He said at CD2 I could start BCP now for the month so I am ready to start the stim cycle with my next AF. But we were not expecting it and haven't arranged my roster wth work etc so we have decided if we were given that option not expecting to be we would wait until next cycle so thats what we are doing. He gave me the pill so we are all ready when next AF gets here in about 26-30days. Its going to be so weird on the pill again even if it is just for a month. I guess the 1month break will do us the wealth of good been able to BD only cause we want to and concentrating on my healthy living and not what my CM is doing. And I am going to try see a consellor and try accupuncture. I didn't think conselling (can't spell) would help but the Dr said I should at least try it due to my anxiety and I am having shocking dreams midwifery related about been pregnant and having all these obstetric emergencies happening to me and my baby. I don't know what it means and if its a sign but I wish they would go away. It never ends in me having a healthy baby.

Mildez they had a story on there about a woman who is chosing to have IVF done over in Thailand so she can chose the gender. She has 3 boys already conceived natrurally and now she wants a girl. Boiled my blood a bit. After all we go through. No wonder people frown on IVF it's people like that who make it a dirty word. I would kill to just get pregnant.

Morning everyone

Still a bit sleepy and bleary eyed writing this ... had a loooong day yesterday, feel wrecked this morning.

Just wanted to wish Ferrals and Sunbeam the best of days today - thinking of you and looking foward to hearing about your scan Sunbeam and your EPU Ferrals. Hope all goes wonderfully well for you both xx

T-hopes, I'm sorry to read about your Dad being in hospital - did you say you are heading off on holidays?? (I'm doing this from memory, sorry). If so, have a great time love and I hope the little break gives you a good rest and relax ready for your big BFP that's coming soon :)

Mildez - sounds like we'll be cycle buddies - AF is due for me in a week, then I'll wait one more month, then onto the OCP for me too! I think the counseling is a good thing - i've had it on and off over the years and I always get something out of it and considering all that you face as a midwife while ttc surely it must help.

Porsche - hiss! I agree. Glad I didn't see that program - makes me mad!!

Saffy - I get what you're saying - sorta nice to have a whole team on the case IYKWIM! Good luck hun, hope this is it for you.

HappyBaby - thanks for your lovely comment (mm I know that fish pie recipe too and it's yum!). Glad you got some bding in for good measure - fingers crossed.

Porsche, Kaybee, MatthewsMum, Crafty, Sevie and all our other lovely ladies - hello to you. Sorry for quick persies this morning - half asleep.

Saw my friend after she came out of her op yesterday - she was in so much pain, it just brought tears to my eyes. I remember coming out of my surgery and thinking I had never felt pain like that in my life and her op was so much bigger than mine. I hope she got through the night OK and is feeling better today. Poor love - it's a tough thing to go through. Her mum was there and she was in tears holding my friend's hand. Not what you'd ever want to see your daughter go through. Anyway, once she gets through this things will improve enormously for her and she'll be well and able to get on with her life and who knows, if she decides she does want children hopefully a girlfriend in the future might be able to use one of her eggs (they left an ovary in so maybe that is still possible) and carry the baby. Fingers cossed.

Have a good day everyone - I'm going to zone out with the chooks and a cup of tea xx

Mildez-I think we will be around the same time cos although I have already started the bcp I have to take it for nearly 2 months, where I live they cycle everyone together and my EPU won't be until 6th Sept, frustrating but oh well hope it goes quick. Alice maybe you'll be around this time too. Try counselling, I did it for 6 months, and I am not a counselling type of person, but it was good. I often have dreams about delivering babies in extreme situations, not my own though thank god, its annoying because its stressful enough at work without having it in dreams as well!! It must be an outlet for our brains, but I'm sure its not a sign for you or a premonition xxx
Alice hope your friend gets lots of drugs to take her pain away! xx

Hi Ladies,
The scan went well. Everything is in the right place. I could not see hb although FS assured me it was there though he could not get a fix on it to measure it which has me a bit worried given that I'm 6w6d. Not really feeling all that convinced that its all okay as I've had no ms for 2 days and my boobs are not as sore. Spend part of yesterday crying and could not get to sleep last nigh due to stressing about it all. Next scan is 2nd Aug if things stay good till then. Going to try and chill out today, I.m sure all this stress is not good for bub.

Well i am back and i didn't get the results i had hoped for the EPU itself went fantastic i feel really great other than i have put on 2kg since yesterday from fluid overload and feel bloody full and fat.
It turns out that big lead follicle was a cyst which prevented all the right side follicles from getting big enough so out of 13 follicles none of the eggs were mature on the left side of the 8 big follicles they got 6 eggs which means we cannot have a day 5 TF as it is to risky trying to get them to day 5 blasty so we find out tomorrow how many fertilise and if we have a good day 3 embryo they will TF one on monday but the scientist did say it is a lower pregnancy rate because day 5 hatching blasts are stronger and more likely to stick than a day 3.
So i am not to happy at the moment we really needed to try and get to day 5 for the strongest embryo.
So now the nervous wait to see how many fertilise and if they are any good DH swimmers were graded B quality for motility which is good but we won't know morphology results for a while.

I will pop back in later i am feeling pretty meeehhhh! right now

Sunbeam-glad everything is good with bub.

Sunbeam :hug: I hope all is well with the bub and your August scan shows you a lovely healthy hb. I hope you are resting - take care, it is very understandable why you would be feeling low and fearing the worst but try to stay positive for the little one xx

Ferrals, sorry to hear about the cyst - at least that explains things and hopefully it will go soon. I'm surprised to read that they won't let you go to day 5 with only 6 eggs. I only ever get that many, and we always go to Day 5. Anyway, I hope the fertilisation goes well and you get the option but if not, a good strong day 3 embie can do just as well (that's how my niece was born!) so fingers crossed. Don't blame you for feeling meeh- that's IVF for you - full of ups and downs and unexpected turns. We all understand - hang in there and stay hopeful xx

Hey ladies,

Nice one Sunbeam - I can understand you still not wanting to get too excited, but surely the fact that the doc could see a heartbeat warrants at least a little cheer. Yay!

Ferrals - here's hoping you get a great fertilisation number. Fx

AFM - here's that mc FS told me to expect

oh Kaybee, I'm so sorry :( :( are you OK? I hope you aren't in too much pain and your DH is looking after you xx

Things just goes from bad to worse we have 3 of 5 injected fertilised as one was not suitable to be injected with DH sperm so if 1 of the 3 is good for TF monday it will be at 2:45.
Its all down to 3 i am not real optimistic:shakehead: actually i am devastated this cycle is going to be a flop.

Ferrals, I'm so sorry things haven't gone as well as you would have hoped. It is devastating - we have so many hopes riding on IVF and somehow, having that intervention in a way makes us more confident that things might work, but there are always hurdles to overcome that are difficult to deal with. Just remember it only takes one good embie. I know you have the PGD to consider so the more you have the greater your chances but let's just hope that all three keep growing strong and that the one they transfer will be healthy. Don't give up yet, you're still in with a chance and we're here for you x

morning everyone ,kaybee-sorry bub didn't defy the odds...sunbeam-hope you managed some sleep last night..saffy-sorry af came,glad your feeling positive about ivf,off to a great start...t-hopes-hope your able to enjoy your holidays...porshe-getting closer each step...mildez-hope dreams are subsiding,they can be frightening,councellor helped me with some i was having...alice-how is your friends recovery going?have you got any dates to start your next ivf cycle?did fs get back to you with the results you were waiting for?..ferrals-i agree with alice ,only takes one.How are you feeling physically?

I am pretty sore and uncomfortable i put on over 2kg since wednesdays trigger and was getting worried but i lost 1kg over night so i know its just fluid retention and it will settle down.
Otherwise i am ok just trying not to be to upset and tell myself i can do another cycle in August and we will do things differently next time.

Hi Ladies,

Ferrals - I know how hard it is to stay positive on this journey and how hard it is to accept that we have no control at all over its outcome. The girls are right though it only takes on good one. It is so brave of you to be keep looking forward rather than dwelling on the stuff you want to be different. I will keep everything crossed that you little embies get good and strong over the weekend. :hug:

Kaybee - I'm so sorry your little bean did not pull through there are no words that will make it feel any better right now but we are all here for you. :grouphug:

AMF - I am trying really hard to put the negative thoughts out of my mind. I have been trying to escape into movies to keep my thoughts distracted. I am still concerned that I have had no hint if ms since wednesday, is that normal for it to come and go?

I should not have worried, ms returned tonight :p. The strange things we celebrate here!!

Hi Ladies

Haha Sunbeam. Yes it's perfectly normal for MS to come and go lol.

Kaybee - That's really upsetting for you. I'm really sorry your little one didn't pull through. I hope your recovery is really quick so you can move forward.

Ferrals - I'm really sorry things aren't looking all that crash hot right now. I really hope you get at least 1 emby to TF. I'm glad your looking at the next cycle positively. It's hard to stay positive and optimistic when it just seems the odds aren't stacked in our favour.

Matthews Mum - We'll we've had our last BCP today. I really hope AF is here by Wednesday. I was supposed to be due for AF on Saturday but I think BCP stopped that from happening. Am I being realistic in hoping for AF on Wednesday? It's starting to creep closer and closer now.

Porsche I think AF will probably be here by Wednesday for you. Usually unless you have funny cycles AF turns up 2-3days after you stop taking the pill. They didn't give you provera to make it come on a set day? I don't see why you would need it but if AF is normally on time.

Sunbeam thats good the MS is helping with the anxiety now its returned lol

Ferrals I am praying this cycle isn't a flop. You only need one right to get a BF sticky P.

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Porsche I think AF will probably be here by Wednesday for you. Usually unless you have funny cycles AF turns up 2-3days after you stop taking the pill. They didn't give you provera to make it come on a set day? I don't see why you would need it but if AF is normally on time.

Sunbeam thats good the MS is helping with the anxiety now its returned lol

Ferrals I am praying this cycle isn't a flop. You only need one right to get a BF sticky P.

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He started me on BCP because I hadn't O by that time. I was CD35 and that is normally when AF is due. So he said start BCP for 16 days so we can be in total control of this cycle. But according to my temps I did O but anyway we didn't DTD around O anyway so I knew we missed the boat.

Ferrals, good luck for tomorrow - will be thinking of you.

Porsche, all the best for your cycle starting soon

MatthewsMum, where are you up to with your next cycle? Have the bt results given you any idea of when it might start? I'm seeing my FS on Tuesday so will get the results then. We are hoping to start the BCP in another month so if all goes well the injections will start in August.

Did a really stupid thing tonight - lifted something very heavy (about 35 kilos) without waiting for some help and my back and neck are getting stiffer by the minute. Stupid stupid thing to do - will call the Osteo in the morning and hopefully get her to look at it. Why did I do that???!!

Porsche I hope AF turns up then when its suppose to. Do you do another cycle on the pill or where to from now?

Alice you lifted that heavy thing as you wanted to get it from A to B then and there lol I hope your neck is getting better. Sounds nasty.

Ferrals good luck with your transfer today. I am praying your 3 little embies are going strong and for a BFP in 2ish weeks.

LOL Mildez! Yes, I did want to move it from A to B and being the patient woman I am (not) I did it when I wanted to, not when someone might have been able to help! Don't feel too bad this morning, a bit of a stiff neck but hopefully OK. My brother has a bad back and I don't want to have to live like that so I should learn, but I never do!!

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Porsche I hope AF turns up then when its suppose to. Do you do another cycle on the pill or where to from now?

Alice you lifted that heavy thing as you wanted to get it from A to B then and there lol I hope your neck is getting better. Sounds nasty.

Ferrals good luck with your transfer today. I am praying your 3 little embies are going strong and for a BFP in 2ish weeks.

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Oh Ferrals FX for your transfer!

Mildez - Once AF comes I'm to ring FS and make an appointment for CD6 so we can start FSH injections.

Thanks ladies i just got a phone call from the scientist to say of our 3 embryos 1 is a clear winner and will be TF today at 2:45 and the other 2 are a little behind we can have one of those TF aswell because they wont be good enough to be frozen but with our risk of a sick baby we will only TF the one good one.
So it turns out i ended up with exactly the same number of embryos at the end of this cycle as i did last cycle so really the less eggs doesnt mean less embryos
I have to wait until i get there to find out what grade it is and how many cells but i hope this is our healthy baby.
Please be a top quality 3 day embie PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!
I am so terrified i feel sick how am i going to get through the next 2 weeks waiting to see if it worked.

Sorry for the me posts i am just freaking out.

Morning all

FX ferrals that this cycle still gives you at least 1 good emby thats all you need to be in with a chance of a BFP !

Alice I laughed at your post I am sooo like you when I want something doing I want it done now not when someone can help lighten the load lol ! hope your feeling better this morning !

Sunbeam yay for ms returning yep it sure does that to you just when you start to worry it comes back and it does come and go but gets really bad around week 10 for me anyway so get some ginger biscuits in and some pepsi and start nibling away its the only way I could keep anything down !!! and rest is good I found the more I was up and around the worse it got ! ( but with my lot resting was difficult to get for more than an hour at a time so take what you can get ! )

Porche sounds like you are just about to start your journey FX it goes smoothly for you !

Matthewsmum where are you in your cycle are you transfering soon ?

Murraycod if your stalking HI hope your ok miss you babe !

AFM well I am in the TWW so FX I get some good news only 1% chance but still a chance I keep telling myself, and DH well he is so positive one day soon we will get our BFP.

Looks like my house is nearly done will be doing the final inspection next week then get the keys ! ( new house new baby ) oh I hope so !

Hi girls, hope everyone had a good weekend, I had a busy day at work today.

Ferals- hope that embie is top notch for your TF today, try not to freak out cos there's nothing you can do but sticky vibes to you xxx

Sunbeam- glad you got your ms back, sorry the scan wasn't more ressuring for you but hopefully your symptoms will help you be positive,I'm sure if they saw a heartbear that is the main thing sticky vibes to you too babe xx

Alice-hope the back settles, I always do that at work then regret it, we aill both be stooped over when we are old ladies!

Porsche-hope AF arrives!

Crafty- hope AF doesn't arrive!
Hi Mildez, Matthewsmum, THopes and Kaybee xxx

Ferrals sending loads of sticky vibes your way.

I am back and i have some good news we had an A grade 8 cell perfect text book looking embryo TF the scientist said it was a beautiful embryo.
The TF was easy and quick we got to see our embie before it was TF and it looked awesome so i now am in the tww with my BT scheduled for the 2nd of August :o seems so far away when a HPT will show up in 2 weeks but i will just go with what they say.

Thanks for all the good luck wishes it has paid off i couldn't have asked for a better quality embryo.

:leap: Congrats Ferrals :leap: That's what we want to hear!!! Well I hope this TWW goes quickly for you with a wonderful result at the end. xx

:stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl: to everyone else in the TWW

I have my appointment tomorrow with the FS...feeling nervous. Hope we can start after our next cycle and that he thinks it is worth a try (latest thing I've convinced myself he won't think it is worth it after the last appointment in Jan when he congratulated us on a great result (falling pg) AFTER the mc...does that mean he thinks that is the best we can hope for???)

Hello MurrayCod if you are reading, and Kit Faerie, we miss you!! Hope all is well xx

Oh! i forgot to add DH swimmer test was normal this time a bit lower amount but better quality 52 million per mil and 97% motility and above the 15% normal forms required to pass the WHO critera that was what the scientist told us she didn't give us the exact morphology just said if it is below the 15% then they note it down if it's normal they don't make a note of it so i am very happy.
But it doesnt explain why we couldnt get pregnant.

Yay Ferrals that's great news!!!!

That is great news Ferrals. I an praying for you that it is followed by a BFP.

Anyone else going through IVF Australia?

Alice hope you have a great appointment tomorrow with your FS. I have decided to go visit SIL for a few days later this week and next week we have another appointment to fill out the consents etc. Haven't spoken to DH about what we will do if one of us dies/seperate etc guess we will need to know before then so no arguements in there lol.