LT TTC & Assissted Conception Mar-Apr 2010

Mum-2-be ~ Ive heard and read that it doesnt matter too much the first BT what the HCG is as long as it keep doubling I think every day or 2 days. It is still a reading so you're pregnant. As you probably know I was in the same boat. my first was only 38. If it has increased next one that is good, will have fingers crossed for you hun.
Did they do progesterone too and if so what was that. My P4 was only 2.6 extremely low.

Lairdoz ~ thanks hun, you are so right and I need to start being demanding as ive paid a lot of money. Thank you for reminding me, from now on its no more Mrs Nice.
Not long now for you, FX hun! Hope you're doing well in the TWW. xo

arrrrgggghhhhh the hospital has now changed mums surgery date from april 1st to april 15th 'due to unforseen circumstances". turns out its coz its easter weekend when she would be in hospital.just when i had organized DP to have the first off to drive me to coast.and now mum is nagging me that im not getting to visit her much. DP and i are back to sharing a car and he is being slack about organizing another one, so it makes it hard to get to mums over an hour away very often

Hi girls,

Loops - OMG i can't believe you still don't have an answer! I'm with Laridoz. I would be ringing everyday till i got answers or I would be going elsewhere (if that is an option). I'm not sure what sort of facilities your clinic has or whether it is a large or small clinic, but either way it is ridiculous. They should be doing BT's every day or 2 to see what is happening there at least. I would definately be putting away nice Loops and bring out frustrated and anrgy loops. I will bet you anything they will listen if you demand answers, being nice sometimes doesn't get you anywhere. Sorry bout the rant but i'm frustrated for you:doh:

m2b - I will have my fingers crossed for you, unfortunately my BETA result was 19 and it was a chemical, however that doesn't mean it will be the same for you. Like loops said so long as it doubles by thursday, you should be all good. I did look up all that when i got such a low beta and it is possible to have a viable preg with a low beta like that.

Sorry i have no more personals today but i hope everyone else is doing great :hello:
ATM - i have a BT tomorrow which will be day 12 to see how hormones are going and then hopefully we will have some idea about when our little frozen emby can go in.

loops ~ :wtf:!!! 3 weeks to wait for a scan is unacceptable!! I am getting angry for you too! Surely they can complete a scan or BT to confirm. I am just wondering if they were to request a scan would they be able to see and confirm anything at this point??? Not sure? Either way you deserve to know and this has been going on for too long now.

m-2-b ~ a faint line is promising...I wouldn't discount a BFP yet until Friday's BT. Goodluck!! I have everything :crossfingers: for you.

trubabe ~ bummer about your mum's hospital appointment....hope your able to get around that one.

lairdoz ~ I have done some research into AA embryo's and this means its very good. Well done! By that standard I reckon my embies were a DD..he he. I was wondering when was your EPU & ET? My clinic tends to schedule the BT more than 2 weeks after ET. I wonder if they do this to avoid having to call you about a BPN when by this stage AF would have arrived which is what happened last cycle.

Hello to everyone else ...hope you are travelling well in your cycles, lap recoveries etc.

Thanks ladies for the welcome.

I can't believe I was stressing out about the injections, I've done two so far and they were both a breeze. Thanks everyone for helping with this. Can't believe I was being such a big wus!!! (melttc - figure this is how you felt!) :doh:
Is the constant headache normal? Had zero side effects on Synarel and just wondering if the headaches are from the Gonal injections?

Loops - OMG you poor thing, I hope you make some headway with the clinic so you can stop wondering what's going on!

Juniper - how did you pull up? Make it back to work today?

Mum2Be - which branch of QFG are you with? Want to see if my experience gets any better ;-) even though I'm in the early stages....

Lairdoz - so you're in the TWW after blasty transfer? - FX for you that it sticks.

Best wishes everyone.
Chrissy

Ladies,

Renee ~ good luck with your FET. Can't wait to find out when your FET is too!! Just out of curiosity, did your AF come at its normal time or did it wait for your hcg level to go down to 0?

CK77 ~ I go the Brisbane arm and see Dr Molloy. The ladies in his office are so wonderful. I think on Friday when I have my BT I will take them in some flowers and chocolates - they have helped me through so much, like the OHSS and the result yesterday - they were completely honest, even when it wasn't what I wanted to hear.

trubabe ~ hope your mum understands how difficult it is for you, and how much you are trying. Also hope that her operation goes well.

Lairdoz ~ thanks, but I have come to the conclusion that the 16 is probably the residue from the hcg shot I took last Tuesday. Just hoping for AF to come so we can try again with a FET.

Meltc ~ Thanks. I hope your coping well on the TWW. I would say that from now on, I am definately not going to cave in on the HPT. In my circumstance, I think it was the worst thing... how are you coping with it? btw, I also thought that your BT was much later than everyone elses ...

juniper76 ~ hope your feeling better now.

AFM ~ After a few tears yesterday :crying: I have come to the realisation that I'm out this month - 16 is just too low and probably just the residual from the hcg injection last tuesday. Just sucks going through the whole thing, epecially with the OHSS.

Oh well, I'm just going to focus now on the next step - FET. We have 4 snowbubs - hopefully one of which would love to become my little bubby!! So it's now a waiting game for AF to come!! I think I want it to come more than I did last month - if that's at all possible!!

Hi ladies

Loops - I totally agree that 3 weeks in unacceptable and they cannot leave you hanging there for that long. You have to remember that you are paying for a service, I think that sometimes they play on the fact that we are all so desperate, and if you want a scan they should do a scan if it is going to make you feel better. The last thing you need is to be stressed for the next 3 weeks.

Sorry if I'm on a bit of a rave, they just make me cranky sometimes when they don't take into account emotions as well. Especially when they are the ones pumping us full of hormones.

M2B - the girls are right, as long as your beta keeps doubling every day that's all you need to keep focussed on especially since you brought your blood test forward a couple of days.

Hello and :grouphug: to everyone else today.

Hi everyone,

I was invited to join in the chat here. I am on my first cycle of IVF - on the synarel nasal spray at the moment (only had 3 doses so far). At this stage they are saying egg pick up will be around 12th April... assuming my body decides to do the right thing. I am using anonymous donor sperm (which feels weird in itself because I know so few details about the donor and I was doing AI with a known donor so I felt confident about the traits the baby might inherit but also about how the donor would treat the child if he/she ever went looking for their biological father. With an annon donor you really have no idea what you are getting - in terms of personality, or what your child might find when they are 18 and able to make contact with their donor).

Last year I started AI (donor insemination with known donor). Had 2 cycles where my body went a little weird and things had to be rescheduled but okay (both BFN). Third cycle my body went really weird. I ended up having 3 scans and the follicles just weren't developing. Let it go and it took 8 weeks before I got my period (ended up taking drugs to bring my period on). I was told most women have 1 or sometimes 2 non-ovulatory cycles a year and not to worry. The following cycle I decided to not take any drugs at all and let my body have a rest. It ended up being 10 weeks before I got my period. I let my body rest for the remainder of the year whilst I tried to find a local donor (I was using one from Interstate). My cycles finally settled down around Oct. In Jan this year I went back to Sydney for another attempt with my previous donor. I ended up having 4 follicle scans as my eggs weren't developing. Scan 1 I had a 12mm on the left, 3 days later it had shrunk and my biggest was an 11 on the right, next scan 4 days later that one had shrunk and I had a 12 again on the left which finally developed into 19 by the final scan before I drove to Sydney. I knew my body was responding to stress in my life at the time and therefore my chance of success wasn't great... but I still had my fingers crossed (had a huge fall out with long term friends of mine who caused alot of problems between me and my ex, as a result I was hardly sleeping or eating). On the positive side my parents had finally started acting interested in my TTC journey and were being supportive (previously they had known what I was doing but didn't want to know anything about it). If it had worked the baby would be due at a perfect time for me (after I had finished teaching for the year - I work for a university) so my maternity leave wouldn't be disruptive on any one. But alas... best laid plans and all that!

So my parents have agreed to lend me enough money for 2 attempts of IVF. If I'm not really lucky and fall pregnant in one of those attempts then I don't know what I will do. I've spent $3000 so far on my AI attempts and don't have any spare money now.

As far as we know I have no medical infertility problems (just stress affecting my cycles). My cycles have always varied from 4 weeks 2 days to 5 weeks 5 days, however 14 years ago I concieved my daughter naturally when her father and I were using contraception, only saw each other once a fortnight and were definately not wanting to be pregnant. Because of my periods varying in length it caused alot of confusion for medical staff related to due dates (at my first ultrasound they told me the baby was growth retarded but then at the 2nd one they corrected it and said she was just 17 days younger than they had expected from the date of my last period). I didn't have any early pregnancy signs and hadn't considered the possibility I could be pregnant - just thought I was having a long cycle until it got to around 8 weeks and I was feeling really tired and thought I should get my iron levels checked. Doctor asked if I could be pregnant and I said "well my boyfriend and I have sex but we always use contraception". We did a preg test and the doctor and I were both shocked when it came back positive. Although my daughter wasn't planned she was definately the best thing to ever happen to me. I was only 22 when I concieved her (so at our most fertile age) but the fact I got pregnant when all the odds were against it gives me hope that I will get pregnant again. I never wanted her to be an only child but her father and I split when I was 16 weeks pregnant (he's never seen her) and I didn't want to try to have another child on my own (was waiting to meet my soulmate first). Finally gave up on that idea in 2006 and started seriously looking into my options and then started my donor search in Dec 06. My daughter was not quite 10 when I started looking for a donor and now she is 13, and sometimes I think maybe she is too old now... maybe there will be too much of an age difference. I turn 37 in June and I wonder if I am getting too old mentally and emotionally to have a baby. I definately won't keep trying after this year. Just got to hope it works soon.

Lori

M2B - I had a really high progesterone reading when i had my BT and a low HCG so i had to wait till my progesterone dropped. My progesterone was at 260 first BT on a monday then dropped to 34 by wed. It has to get right back to 1 or 2 before AF arrives which for me was by the sat. So i guess it depends on how high your progesterone reading is. GL for friday there is still a chance!!

Hi Ladies
Just keeping it short today as Im at work. Dont worry about the ranting - I really appreciate your comments and suggestions. Ive decided that if there is no referral in the mail tonight for a BT Im going to ring my nurse tomorrow and get fiery. Ill get her to fax a referral to my pathology and get a BT ASAP. They might not tell me much, I probably really need a HB to know for sure but it might give me more of an indication.

Renee ~ all the best hun, FX

Mum-2-be ~ Dont give up hope just yet but its always good to think ahead in terms of what if. Im glad you have those little snowbubs anyway as backup. And if it is a chem preg you have gotten that 1 step closer. Still :pray: for you!

Lori ~ Hi and welcome. All the best, I think I would do exatly the same as you if I were in your situation so I say go for it! Good luck!

Hi to everyone and thanks once again for all your support xo

loops: gday chick your bt might give you an indication if your hcg levels double it should mean good news yes? I hope to hear a good message from you when you get your results.
AFM: just plodding along on the pill keeping myself busy finished the tv cabinet today and it's inside and looks great onto the next time consuming project. Can't wait till may
For those who went through iui what was the procedure you went through what drugs/injections were you on? and how was it all emotionally ohh and another question when they do the transfer are you awake? Cheers guys I have so many questions

Hi ladies

sorry been quite busy at work and for those I miss I'm really sorry

Loops12 glad your being so calm about everything definately ring for bloods tomorrow also why cant you see your FS any earlier?

trueblue IUI isn't that bad apart from the injections(they may want you to do after the transfer) it all depends on your treatment what they give you but you'll have a scan too see how your follices are growing you'll probably do some hormone testing at home to see when your ovualate pretty much like a preganancy test maybe a blood test is the hormone tests aren't working. DH will go in and do his business then they will insert it inot you a few hours later (its a bit like having a pap test)

AFM well went to see my immunologist so am one step closer he thinks he knows how to treat me which is great but had a do a few more blood tests today to rule out problems with kidneys etc. It also comforting to know that my embryos are trying to latch on but my body isn't letting them so I now have to wait about 3 weeks to see him again with the final test results coming in then its time to start again. I may make my next cycle in April depending on the treatment otherwise its May for me

Hi girls

hi to everyone who is new since I was in here and there are a few.

Hi Trueblue, sorry to see you in here.

I'm still trying to get myself up to speed with where everyone is at, so I will just :crossfingers: for everyone for wherever you are at.

AFM, have had a pretty good start to my first IVF cycle. No issues with the Synarel (except that awful taste at the back of your throat after about 5 mins) and the puregon injections have been ok, onto the third day of them now. Had a bit of an upset stomach at first, but not sure if its a side affect or just something I ate?? I am due for another BT tomorrow morning to see how things are going and I think another couple of days after that it will be BT and scan every second day to monitor levels and follie growth. What sort of monitoring do others have leading up to EPU? Due to my background (PCOS and resistance to clomid) they are taking it very slowly for me and I am only on a dose of 125IU atm. I am taking the approach that since they are starting slow and my body doesn't like to cooperate, my EPU will be on the CD16 end of the CD12-16 scale they told me is the usual time for EPU, which is right around Easter for the ET. Which means we won't be able to go down south to spend Easter with DH family. Oh well I know they will understand. :crossfingers: it will be a very good reason to not visit! :)

I hope you are all well.

Hi everyone

I'm new to BellyBelly and thought I'd introduce myself.

I'm currently in the TWW, having had two embryos transfered on 9 March, and my BT is this Saturday.

I am trying not to obsess about it, but boy it is difficult!

I really tried to optimise our chances this time, keeping stress levels down, doing acupuncture etc and am feeling positive, but at the same time not wanting to think too positive!

I have been reading back through some of the recent posts in this forum and just wanted to say that you are all incredibly strong women.

I look forward to getting to know you all a bit better.

Cheers
KrisGray

Hello Ladies!!!

I have been quite busy so haven't had a chance to get on lately...however i was thinking about Loops today and thought i'd check in...

Loops - I was hoping to read some good news, but looks like they are still stuffing you around...i agree with all the other ladies....GET HEAVY!!! I will be lurking to see what happens...my prayers are with you hon!

Ladies sorry, no other personals..but why aren't there more names on that list!!!!
Looks like i will have to pray a little harder for you all and sprinkle more :stickyvibesgirl:
and :bluedust:....i'm can already feel some positivity coming...:dance:

AFM - well, yesterday had a massive bleed, and thought everything was all over...clinic got me in straight away and after all that trauma, the little peanut was still there safely in its sac and its little heart beating away....i am still exhausted after the emotional rollercoaster yesterday and have been taking it easy all day...looks like this pregnancy is going to be full of hurdles right throughout! :rolleyes:

Hey MellyBelly - I think we're in sync - I'm on day 3 of the injections too for my 1st IVF cycle - although I notice that you've done chlomid cycles previously - pls excuse my ignorance, but is that when they think everything else is fine, they just don't see you ovulating?

So I started injections (gonal-f) Monday, and they don't want to see me until next Monday (22nd) - I'm wondering why I'm not having to go in this week to see how the dosage (150) is working for me? I don't want them to be complacent and then for me and DH to be in the same position a few months down the track because it turned out that the dosage was too low or too high.

And I KNOW I should be drinking 3ltrs+ per day but man I am struggling to make it past 2.5ltrs.... and I am peeing like a racehorse :rolleyes:

I'm tossing up on whether to go for accupuncture next week, as I'm assuming EPU will be towards the end of next week? Guess I'll find out when it is when they see me on Monday.

Is it corny that I went and bought 'What to Expect when You're Expecting'? I'm really trying to think positively that it'll happen 1st time, but I know that it rarely does.

MellyBelly - what things have they advised you to do other than water & protein?

Keep me up to date with how you're going!

Chrissy

CK77: not silly for being obtomisitic you have to be otherwise you can mad thinking of the what if's... clomid can be mostly for those who ovulate at odd times or not at all I was given it to give dh's swimmers more targets to hit to compensate for slightly low sperm count.
Melly: SO sorry to see you in here too ah but we are now taking the next step and hopefully this is what gets us our miracles..
Loops: How u going today have you rang up and demanded BT's or scans yet? hoping you get some answers soon. hugs chick

Sorry ladies just keeping it short again as Im at work.

Hi to the newbies and wishing you all the very best for your cycles

Trueblue~ thanks hun. Havent spoken to them because yet again there is a different nurse on. My original nurse is on leave still I think, her replacement is not in and I got another nurses messagebank :wall:
I think Im just gunna wait until I see Mac and here everythinh from his mouth. Hopefully there is a BT referral in the mail tonight. Wont hold my breath lol.

Em- star ~ Good to hear from you again not good that you had that bleed, must have been terrifying. The bleeding has been bad enough for me so I can only imagine how it affected you. Im so pleased to hear bub is hanging in there though and that gives me hope too. I can't wait until I hear a :heartbeat: hopefully soon.

Hi to all you other wonderful ladies and I wish you all the best for waiting, jabbing, sniffing, EPUs, ET's etc :bluedust::stickyvibesgirl:

AFM ~ Still wanting some advice and stuff from the nurses and FS and not really getting any assistance. Had accupuncture last night though and she is so fantastic. She reasures me and is completely understanding and obviously really good at what she does too. She said my bleed could have just been a cervical bleed esp since my cervix is still closed - such reassuring words. Thanks for all your support everyone xoxo

:welcome: ~ KrisGray (GL with BT on Sat) & dreamrise659.

loops ~ keep up the positive thoughts!! I am :pray: that this all sorts itself out very soon!!

CK77 ~ hope your are travelling well in your cycle..They will schedule your first scan usually 6 -7 days after your first injection. So don't worry this is normal. Highly recommend acupuncture during your IVF cycle and especially before and after EPU. I started acupuncture for the first time in the first week of my cycle and I wish I had started earlier. My acupuncturist says my chi (energy) levels are low and my fire element is too weak..so we worked on improving that.

Em-star ~ sorry to hear about your little scare yesterday but very relieved to hear that it's all ok!

terry ~ I am curious to ask what made you decide to see an immunologist and how did they confirm that your body is not allowing the embryo's to stick. Either way I hope this helps to solve your TTC problems.

Hello to anyone else I might have missed..

AFM - Not quite half way through the TWW....but I am so happy how time is going quickly for me at the moment and sorry to those where time is going slow. Trying not think about the whole TWW as I am just happy to sit back and see how things pan out.

Morning Ladies

Loops I so hope you get some answers today and don't have to go through another weekend of waiting. But I'm so glad your acupucturist has given you some hope.

Emstar thank god it was only a scare and that the little one is safe and sound.

Melttc I hope your wait continues to be easy and that this is your month :crossfingers: To briefly answer your question after all my cycles last year I noticed different things happening to my body when AF arrived and I was convinced that something must have been happening. I spoke to my FS and said that I wasn't satisfied with my unexplained and were there anymore tests that could be done. I had a whole heap of blood tests done to rule out certain things that can cause infertility and with one of them I have a really hign count of antibodies that help fight disease. Everyone has them but I'm in a 5% group where they are more than double the ratio they believe that becuase of this my body thinks the embryo is forgein so they attack it. It makes sense to me cause I hardly ever get sick. Women who get treated with this end up increasing their chances by over 50%.

Hi to everyone else and hope you are all travelling well

Hey ladies,

Emstar - I'm so glad everything is ok. It must have been so scary for you.

CK77 - that was the same time mine first scan was scheduled for, so don't worry. the FS will then probably do one every 2 days.

terry - that's amazing about the anti-bodies. Is there a remedy for that?

Loops - I can't believe its still going - you have a little fighter on your hands there!!

Melttc - I found the first week went pretty quickly, it was just towards the end of the second week that the people around me that knew said 'do a test, do a test'!! And I caved!! But next time, I'll be sure not to cave!! It has just caused further anxiety I think...

KrisGray - GL with BT on Saturday :crossfingers:

:hello: dreamrise659 GL with your cycle.

GL to everyone else, wherever you are in your cycle!!

AFM - just had some confusing news from the FS ... he said that I wasn't out yet, that 16 was not the residue, my progestorone levels were through the roof, and that technically I was 30 days pregnant. He said just to wait till 9:30am when my results will be through to see what my hcg level was doing. The thing is, I stopped taking the presseries on Tuesday and had a few glasses of wine in the meantime (thinking I was really out). Anyway, I guess I'll just have to be confused until 9:30 :o - only 47 minutes away (not that I'm counting)!!

hi guys, i am still alive just been flat out all week with work and work and trying to lose some weight, so going for walks and swimming.
anyway i havn't even read all your posts, sorry.

nothing much happening for me AF due on sun then next month we're on track for IVF/ ICSI round two.

M2B, I just sent you a PM and replied to you in the TWW. Wow, FX for you. Not long till you hear now - 15 minutes! I'll check in again soon.

Terry, can I ask what test you had done that discovered you were in the 5% group? Is it natural killer cells? I had a whole lot of tests done earlier this year and everything came back fine, but NK cells test has slipped through the cracks. I had a BT for it this week but haven't got the results back yet. It's all very interesting, though. What is the recommended treatment for you?

AFM, it didn't work - again - this cycle. I've been keeping to myself a fair bit. We've swapped doctors and the new FS is throwing everything at us. But my body isn't playing ball as what I thought was AF was heavy spotting. If it doesn't come soon, all my dates for scans etc will be out and my FS may be out of the country when the transfer happens! Damn!

Hello Girls, sorry I have been MIA for quite a long time XXXXX
Had a bit of a rough trot for the past month trying to cope with my MC from last year, and the girls from MC+Loss forum have been great.
I will try to catch up quickly on whats happening!!

Emstar, so glad to hear that everythink is ok after that scary bleed XX Am praying that the rest of you pregnancy can go nice and smooth from here on in XXX

Loops, honey, wow I have read a little of your story, I can't beleive you have had to take the long road on this, darling I am sure things will be fine, rest up and think happy thaughts, and congrats by the way XXXXX

JBM good luck for your next cycle, I look forward to sharing your crazy moments with you!!XX

Mum2b, I am eagerly awaiting your post, I hope you have good news for us XXX

Terry, am so glad you have mentioned this test, I suggested it to my FS last month and he said that unless I have 3 unsuccessfull attempts at IVF, he doesn't want to think of that yet..............ok for him, we can swap bank accounts if he wants!!

Melttc, you are a strong woman!! Good luck with the rest of the TWW XX

Mellybelly I hope that your cycle runs smooth and successfull!! Wish I could use your excuse to get out of familt easter!!!:shhh:

KGray, welcome honey, and good luck!X

CK77 it's not corny, whats corny, is that I went out and got the Twilight books and am obsessed with them!! Can't put the darn things down!! Im in love with Edward.....shame!:rolleyes:
I am sure that every positive thaught you have, can only be healthy for you, and we all have out own little ways of getting through the cycle, no matter how corny we think it is.
And anyway, stay positive!!XX

Trueblue, I had 3 iui's, each time I was on 50iu puregon, trigger of Pregnyl before transfer, then supporting pregnyl 4dp and 8dp transfer.
Yes you are awake for the transfer, just like having a papsmear honey, it's not painfull at all I promise XXXXX
Yes emotional time, not hormonal from the druggs, but just plain emotional, esp TWW, the TWW is always the hardest part for me!!

Sorry to miss anyone X I will catch up with you all soon X

Well my FET was cancelled 2 days ago.
I was taking 50mg Clomid from day 5 to 9, then bloods on day 11.
Bloods looked great, had a scan on day 13, which showed I had 5 follies all above 22mm, 3rd shadow on uterus, but my lining was only 4mm, so disapointing! Had never been on clomid before, talk about feeling like an explosion had gone of in my ovaries!
Had a Trigger of 5000iu Pregnyl 2 nights ago to release the eggs.

Was advised to obstain from sexual activities for a few days!! Woopy!:o

Will try again next month, this time on 50iu Puregon, to help thicken my lining.....oh the ride.....gotta love it and hate it!

And I thaught this would be smooth sailing!!:lol:

Take care all, sorry it has been so long since i have caught up with you all XXXXX

Murraycod, sorry to hear that your cycle was cancelled! You sound like you're in pretty good spirits, though, which is good to hear.

Emstar, I meant to say in my last post: thank god the `little peanut' is still happily ensconsced where s/he should be. That must have been a scary ordeal for you both.

I am out, going for my BT this morning but bleeding heavily and cramping which started yesterday at only 10dpo. My husband is completely and entirely unsupportive, telling me I am "overreacting" after the first thing he asked me when I told him I was bleeding was 'well how much money do we have left". I slept in another room last night and I hate him so much at the moment. He does nothing for the entire cycle, but doesn't like that I get upset when I'm not pregnant and says that I should just move on. I guess I could if I had so little invested as he does.
I am having at least a month off now but will speak to you ladies in April and hope you have better luck than me :)

Lairdoz - I'm so sorry. Just make sure you give DH a swift hit up along side the head when you are feeling better. It's already difficult to deal with without havening to put up with unsupportive behaviour from the one who is supposed to support you the most. I have my FX that its all ok, and may still prove to be positive... Maybe once everything quietens down have a talk with him about how he reacted and how it made you feel so he is more thoughful next time (although I seriously hope everything is still ok this time, so there won't have to be a next time!!).

Sorry no other personals ATM.

Just a quick one - my hcg came back at 27 (so still way too low, and it didn't double :shakehead: ) but my progestorone is 370 - so very high. I have to go back next Thursday for another test. It seems to be one of those cruel tricks of nature where my body thinks its preg, has a sack, but the sack is empty :cry: ... otherwise its just a very slow starter - just like its daddy ;) !! LOL!!

Anyway, the good thing is that I know there is nothing wrong with me. DH had vas - so it was always thought to be him that was the problem, but those little thoughts about my own fertility creep in given I've never fallen pregnant before. So at least that is a positive. FS said because it is a technical 'preg' on my first round, things are very positive for the next round :thumbsup:

Lairdoz so sorry to hear that your out and you feel you are going through this alone. I'm sure when you are feeling better you and DH will talk about it and sort through things maybe his comments were insensative but it may be his way of coping with the loss too. men do starnge things sometimes.

murraycod sorry that you had to cancel your cycle although it's never happened to me I know that's its probably right up there in the meotion stakes as the TWW. Take care of yourself and lets hope the next one is the one for you

Brunette a change can sometimes be a good thing as each FS I'm sure has their own way of doing things and sometimes just one little thing makes a differnce.

Quite a few of you have been interested in learning about my tests so I'll tyr to explain. Firstly I had 3 failed attempts of IVF and I grew frustrated by this as I ovualte regulary and with my first pick up they got 20 eggs of which 9 fertilised. I decided that I didn't wnat to waste anymore time an unexplained wasn't good enough for me anymore so I spoke to my FS about doing more tests. Late last year I had quite a few blood tests done for things such as thyroid, lupus and ANA. All my tests came back ok except for an elevated level of white blood cells which help our bodies fight colds, disease etc. They have a count level of what is normal and I'm well above the normal. and over the years they have found ladies going through IVF with this were no concieving so they believe that our bodies are also killing off the embryo. Once these last tests come in then the actaul course of treatment will be detrmined at this stage they will probably put me on hepraprin or something like that to reduce my cells and also thin my blood. If thats not successful then it will be full blown presidonal (to supress my immune system).

Sorry for the long post but if anyone wants more info then just PM me

My DH rang me and told me that perhaps I need to be tougher. I feel like I am living a parallel life! I mean is IVF known as some kind of holiday to everyone but me? My DH tried to be nice but I know he really thinks I am being a bit pathetic. I am known for being a very tough person so the fact he says I need to toughen it about this process amazes me. I do all the procedures on my own so I don't think he gets it at all! (end of rant)

I am feeling better now if only because I found out that I have 4 blasts of which 3 are very good quality. Am thinking I will ask my FS if I can put two back in next time as the costs of IVF are killing us.

Did any of your FS's give you advice as to when you are allowed to put 2 back?

Thanks ladies, I was an awful, awful mess this morning but am feeling a bit better now :)
xxx

Lairdoz - I know how you feel about doing the process yourself. They really get the easy end of the deal. My new FS told my DH he has to masturbate every day including the day before egg pick up and he acted like the end of the world. My FS had to remind him of everything I had been through this year and told him to suck it up.

My DH can be pretty insensitive as well, especially when I had my first m/c. But I have found it is mainly when I push him away and don't let him in. I found the counselling helped us pull together a lot. Without it I don't think we would have made it this year.

My previous FS said he would not transfer 2 embryos until I was over 35, my new FS said we can do 2 this time as she is just going to try everything including assisted hatching and embryo glue to try and get a result for us.

I really hope they transfer 2 for you this time.

Lairdoz - I'm only 27 and quite healthy (it is DH who had vas) so my FS STRONGLY advised us to only put in 1, but given the costs and the higher % of 1 taking if we put 2 in, we decided to put 2 in. As my other posts read, it appears as tho none took.

The only thing you need to consider is whether you would be ok with having twins .- and the additional complications that can arise with twins ... I figured I'd rather have twins than none at all (unfortunately this time I got none at all!!).

Hope that helps!

Thanks Ladies, I love BB. I have such a headache from all the crying these past two days, but reading your replies makes such a difference.

I just rang my clinic and I am not pregnant, but more concerning is that my progesterone is only 30 which considering I am on Crinone the nurse said explains why nothing happened (it's been about 140 at this time in my other cycles). She said I will have to have injections if and when I do this again as that number is way too long at 11dpo when you are on Crinone.

Sorry for no persies, I hope I am back up to saying hello and supporting you guys as you have supported me very soon. Please let there be lots of BFP's before I come back xxx

Laidoz, a holiday it is not! Want me to have my DH explain to him just how neurotic I am during an IVF cycle? And that's before the bfn... After one of my bfn's I was depressed for 2 weeks, so please don't let him tell you you're overreacting. Every time a cycle fails we need to grieve for the potential child we lost... I hope he is able to understand eventually. :hug: Oh, and we switched to transferring 2 embies for IVF#2 (after 2 failed SETs).

M2B, we started seeing Dr M earlier this year after 2 years seeing his colleague down the hall. Maybe we'll bump into each other one day? I can't believe how high your progesterone is! Especially if you had stopped the meds! FX you've just got a slow starter there. :crossfingers:

Trubabe, I hope you find a way to adjust to the change in your mum's schedule. If there's anything I can do to help, please PM me.

A belated welcome to our new folk.

Sorry, as usual I'm having trouble keeping up with everyone. I have to pick up dinner soon, so please forgive this rather generically worded (but sincerely intended) sentiment: I wish all the luck in the world to those of us cycling or in the 2ww. I wish only the best of health to our graduates and their miraculous bubs-2-be. And for those waiting (like me), our turn will come and we're another day closer to it...

Melttc ~ Thanks hun. Good on ya - sounds like you're in good spirits and have a good attitude, hope time conitnues to go quick and FX for you!

Terry ~ thank you. Unfortunately though it is another weekend of waiting. I guess I'll be waiting right up until my next scan which is another couple of weeks away yet.
I hope the dr's can treat your issue and that you can do a cycle very soon or even get pg naturally, FX!

Mum-2-be ~ thanks heaps. Yep he or she is a little fighter! Just hope he/she didnt leave us a little while ago and left the sac behind. Thats not neccessarily going to happen to you. Your HCG will go up I reckon. Your Progesterone is good. See I was the opposite my progesterone was only 2.6 first BT and HCG was 38 but it did double and increase. I'll be :pray: and FX your HCG goes up.

JBM ~ exciting - not long now!

Brunette ~ Sorry your body isnt quite behaving. FX your cycle goes ahead.

Murraycod ~ thanks honey, yep it sure has been a long road so far - not giving up hope just yet xoxo!
So sorry your cycle was cancelled but Im pleased you can try next month. All the best, FX

Lairdoz ~ So sorry hun about AF :comfort: I know how hard it is. I dont know your situation with your DH and I dont want to sound like Im not sticking up for you but I wonder whether that was just DH's way of grieving and dealing with it all. I know I am the one constantly asking my DH how much money do we have because I want enough for future tries. So perhaps that was his reasoning for asking too. Although if he's treating you badly thats not good at all. Ive been in a similar position with my DH so know how you feel. Hope to see you around soon for another try hun and I hope things get better with DH. Im sure it will over time - big hugs!
I reckon go for transferring 2, im going to do the same next time if this ends badly for us. xoxo

AFM ~Had BT yestie, should know results by Tuesday hopefully but I have FS appointment Wed, so I can hoepfully have a good long chat to him about everything then and at last should get his thoughts on what could be happeing or happened. Ive had bad headaches the last couple of days and if not pg AF would be due very soon so that's not a good sign :SAAF:

Ok here goes nothing: -

Loops - Why does your BT results take so long? Do they have to send them away? I really hope you get your answer soon. How are you holding up?

Laridoz - Sorry to hear about your BFN :hug:I found that talking to my DH and explaining how i felt helped a little, but i found that if my DH was being insensitive or rude to me it was just his reaction to loss and frustrationa t it all. Talking to the counsellor at our clinic really helped as well. Great news about having some snowbubs there to use. The process of FET is a lot less stressful. If your FS will agree to put 2 back and you don't mind the prospect of having twins i would go for it. We would have liked to put 2 back but my FS is really against it especially if they are blasts and becasue i am so young, he believes the risks to me and the babies would be too much. Hope you are feeling better and remember we are always here to listen :D

m2b - FX for your results i hope that your HCG continues to keep rising.

murraycod - sorry to hear your FET was cancelled. All the best for your next cycle.

Mellybelly - How is everything going with your first cycle of IVF? Hope the drugs aren't playing too much havoc with your body!

CK77- Hi, welcome (sorry it's belated). How is everything going with your first cycle? I was on pregnyl injections so i can' help you with the Gonal sorry, but ask anything else you like! I beleive the more information you have the better prepared you will be.

Juniper - How's things going hun? how are you feeling now?

melttc - How are you surviving the TWW? FX that you get a BFP, we all need some good news i think!!

dreamrise659 & KrisGray - Welcome and Hi, you ahve come to the right place!

Trueblue - Hi we tried 2 IUI cycles, I ovulate on day 19 or 20 of my cycle so i didn't need to be on clomid or any drugs. They just monitor your levels with BT's and when you are ovulating they will get DH to do his thing and then they will use a catheter to 'deliver the package'. It is just like having a pap smear done, there is no pain and you are wide awake! The TWW is the worst part of it!! FX your first cycle is all you will need.

Terry, JBM, Emerald Star, Brunette - :hello: hope you ladies are doing well.

I really hope i didn't miss anyone, if i did i'm sorry.

AFM - I'm on day 15 of cycle and had 2 BT's already, i'm still nowhere near ovulating, which i knew would be the case as it was a very long cycle last time i came off a stim cycle. I was asked if i would consider taking the cycle off but i have mentally prepared myself for it now and i don't mind the BT's. Will keep you posted but looking like FET will still be a couple of weeks away!

PS - How do i stop getting emails everytime someone posts something in the thread, i have looked everywhere! It is probablt staring me in the face:lol:

Thanks Renee. It maybe Monday I hear but they didnt have the usual urgent on this time I dont think because it was the Secretary of my FS who sent the referral not my nurse this time. Not sure but no they dont have to be sent anywhere special just to my FS. I have to wait the weekend so one more day wont hurt I guess.

Goodluck with your cycle, hope you ovulate ASAP. FX for you!

Hi all!
I've been busy in the real world and not much time for posting.

Lairdoz :hug: I think some blokes have a really, errm, unhelpful way of dealing with emotional issues. They seem to think if they just pretend it's not happening, or that it doesn't mean anything, then it'll be ok. I guess it's one method of self preservation - personally I don't think it's very effective, and it's certainly not much good for their partners!

mum2be, I'm sorry it's not out and out good news... still :pray: though

Loops - all i can say is geez....

Renee - go to User Profile. Scroll down the left-hand-side menu to Edit Options. Then scroll down to Default Thread Subscription Mode - there's a drop down menu next to it where you can select No Email Notification (amongst other selections). let me know if you stil have any issues

:rofl: petta!

My clinic will not consider putting two back unless you've had at least a few failed transfers and/or you're already approaching 40. I was looking at some statistics, and for women under the age of 35, the risk of a twin pregnancy if 2 embies are put back is about 53% or something!

Aaaand, boy there are a lot of people in here now. Sorry I'm doing doing all the persies :redface:.
:goodluck: to everyone cycling at the moment. Hope this is the one.

Thanks guys yeah the reason I ask if it will hurt is because when I had my dye test last year I was in excrutating pain and one of my tubes clamped down so I don't want that to happen with the transfer otherwise it will be a wasted effort.
Wow everyone seems to be going through a rough trot atm. I think i need to think myself lucky I have a dh who is super supportive and seems to understand. In saying that though he comes with me to every procedure and app so maybe that helps maybe it's the knowledge and seeing what you have to go through. It would suck not having the support you really need.
Loops: I am waiting with baited breath to see what your results are on monday/tuesday. MAybe ring them monday morning and see if they have the results in yet they should do being over a weekend even if it wasn't urgent.
My opinion on the two emby transfers is that if you sit down with your significant other and discuss and are ok with the idea of a possible twin then go ahead and do two gives you twice the chance of at least one taking and if you get two then bonus. But I think it is something that needs to be discussed with partner and FS.
Goodluck everyone who is cycling or in the tww would be nice to see some BFP's and say goodbye to some people in a good way lol. HUgs everyone.

Trueblue, sorry, I missed your question before. An IUI is very similar to a pap smear test in terms of the experience - usually the most uncomforable part is the insertion of the speculum. I only had one (out of six) that was a bit more unpleasant (he hit the cervix on the way through and I got some cramping). Trust me, if it were as bad as a HSG I'd never have done so many! It's usually a very quick and painless exercise, so I'm sure you'll be fine! I was usually at work less than half an hour after mine and then worked a full day same as usual.

Renee, I find I usually O a week late in the cycle after a stim cycle. FX you don't have too long to wait.

Loops, I'd imagine this wait must be agonising. I hope you've found things to distract you while you wait. :hug:

Afm, it looks like AF is here a week early. Go figure? Not sure what's going on, but I can only assume it's due to the surgery screwing up the cycle. It's just niggling at me a bit because it's weird... Other than that, everything seems to be healing nicely and we have our follow up appointment on Tuesday afternoon...

Hi Juniper, I just replied to you via PM :) Have you had a HSG? I am booked in for one next Friday and am freaking out because it sounds very painful. I was told by the radiologist's office to take the day off because there's no way I'd be going back to work after the procedure.