LT TTC & Assisted Conception May-June 2010

Hi everyone, wow - lots happening in here!
inshelligent - I'm sorry about your BFN. I'm glad though that you are reminding yourself of the benefits of not being pregnant, one of which is enjoying your red wine! I had to have a month off and I can say it was great to have a break from TTC after the hideous 2WW and hope you find this too!
Trueblue - hope you are hanging in there - 2WW is fairly hideous towards the end so I hope it is flying past quickly for you. You deserve a nife BFP and hope this month is your month xx
AFM - Not sure who mentioned it, but stress is the issue my DH and I argue over. He says I should stress less then IVF would work, but as has been mentioned, plenty of people get pregnant when they are stressed! I also don't know of any way to be less stressed during the 2WW so it's up to the gods or the stars (which ever one you believe in!!)
Minime - congrats on your embies
Mindhugs - I am mortified by some of the stories in here about their FS'. I appear to be very lucky to have a good one, but I am sure at times he has also made mistakes/oversights with other patients. IVF is such a cashed-up industry where if they fail, they can just blame luck so it often feels like the clinics can't lose, regardless of how much they charge us. I hope getting a 2nd opinion via the natropath helps give you want you need.
Kaybee - I am feeling like an IVF veteran even though I have only had two stims, I have had far too many medicated cycles. I allow three days to feel like crap, then move on. It's a VERY tough gig at times, but we are all SO lucky to live in Australia, I figure if this is the worst thing in my life ever then I am still incredibly lucky.
YogiBear - Hope AF arrives soon!

Sorry to anyone I have missed.
NO real AFM at the moment, just waiting for my BT on Weds to see when I ovulate and then when I am having yet another ET.

Hi Everyone,

Thought I'd pop in & say hi. I started the drugs for a fresh IVF cycle on Friday, so only a few days into things. I asked for the lucrin rather than synarel spray this time round as last time I never felt confident that I got enough up there!! So, what's another needle after the hundres i've probably done already!!

For me I'm begining to loose count of what cycle we're up to. We are currently trying for number two so I think this will be our fourth attempt since we went back a year ago. I'm hoping the stars align for cycle 4, as it was on our fourth cycle I got pregnant with my DD. Anyway here's hoping!!

hope everyone is doing well I haven't really caught up on the forum reading yet so sorry for no personals promise I will next time!!!

Kaybee, without doubt I'd think that we all empathise with you and nod at the things you write! Everyone but us have outrageously good fertility! I'm a midwife and daily I have to deal peolpe with 'suprise' pregnancies, and I even have to deal with incorrectly diverted phonecalls regarding woman seeking terminations! It's crap!...and hard to sound empathetic...when all I want to do is transfer their undesired embie into my womb!
Stay strong, every lovely lass out there.

Lairdoz - I so love your philosophy! Yes you probably are an IVF veteran after two stims, but us newbies can seek you for advice (if that's OK?). Also, as you so correctly pointed out, I could be living in a sheet-hole in the UK right now going through this and have nothing nice out my window to look at to distract my focused mind! :)

Sevie - Man you have it tough! How do you cope? I would go mental doing a job like that! I get so frustrated hearing about people wanting terminations. I mean I completely understand their reasons for doing so, but why oh why can't you transfer your blessed little parasite to me? I would love it and nurture it and call it Bob! :)

Sorry for the rant... I may be a little "emotionally charged" tonight! :)

Hi ladies

I've been obeserving from a far for the past few days haven't really had much to say.

Juniper you have made me feel so much better about the stress bit no matter how much I try I cant help but stress even just a little while going through a cycle. You really have proved what a lot of people say as wrong.

Kaybee we all freak out at times but through this process you will learn what an amazingly strong women you really are. We all have our ups and downs but we all want a little bundle of joy so much we just dust overselves off and get on with it again.

inshelligent so sorry that you didn't have success this cycle. Hope you enjoyed your drink I must say that I too enjoy a glass or red at times like that. Be kind to yourself enjoy your little break and come back stronger than ever.

To all the others I've missed hope you are all travelling ok.

AFM had my scan this morning have a follicle growing although not as quick as FS wants my last cycle was really slow so she thinks this may have been reason why it didn't work. Am now on estrogen tablets twice a day and have another scan booked for Friday if I haven't surged before then. Here's hoping that number 7 is lucky for me

LisaB: Thanks chick it's not all that hard and have decided that when we do get pregnant am going to make alot of the clothes so much cheaper. And am getting hubby to make some of the toys as I love the old fashioned wooden toys but seeing as they are classed as vinatge now come with a bit of a price.
Inshelligent: aw hun hugs that sucks big time. Lol on the wine... dh and I have decided if this round doesn't work were dissapering for a weekend and getting away
Kaybee: Yes it's hard to not think of stuff I want to make for the baby or the nursery but it keeps popping in my mind and I have to remind myself not to get too hopeful yesterday I found myself putting a watch on pregnancy books on ebay that all go off the day after we find out. I had to stop myself.
Lairdoz: Thanks chick yes I wake up in the morning and realise how far away the 10th is then I get to the end of the day and go wow today went quick the day will be here before we know it
Terry: Good luck and hope that fridays scan brings good news.

Hi Guys

Went for a BT yesterday and found out the HCG levels have dropped too low, so it looks like a Chemical Pregnancy.... I won't be trying again until October. My hubby is away for a bit, and I have a couple of trips coming up, so want to enjoy those, and start afresh after a big break. I don't think I could even think of trying again next cycle. It would be too hard....

Good luck to everyone in here, and I hope when I come back, a lot of you have left this thread!

thanks for the warm wishes ladies....
sorry for those of you having a hard time...hoping for lots of BFPs coming up.
I am trying to stay a bit low key about TTC for now, so won't be posting too much...but will be lurking

babytruj, I'm so sorry to hear that. :comfort: I hope you can enjoy your break and that your golden egg will be waiting for you when you're ready to TTC again.

Possums, good luck with your next cycle. I remember you were here quite a lot when I first joined. I'm glad that you've been able to get your health back on track.

Babytruj - I'm so sorry to hear your news. I hope you are doing OK :)
Possums - Sorry you are hear, I remember your name as well! I completely understand lurking as it's nice to leave the stressing until the 2WW if you can.

Littlemissmoo, Terry, Sevie, Trueblue, inshelligent, mindhugs, Lisa B, Kaybee, minime, yogibear and anyone else I have missed - hope you are having a nice day.

AFM - I just went to the sales for some retail infertility therapy. Made me feel better so maybe they should let us rebate our shopping through medicare!!

On another note: re Stress and IVF I can say categorically that for me stress makes NO difference at all to the outcome when you are on a medicated cycle (be in IVF or FET), The drugs are powerful enough to overcome the hormones created/causing stress on the body. When I got my BFP I was working a very stressful job and had spent three years TTC and had numerous assisted fertility attempts - the nurses at my clinic certainly knew me by name!
Anyway, just thought I would mention this as I know it's been used by family and friends as the reason those of us going through IVF aren't falling pregnant, but it's absolute crap. As my FS said, "Show me a woman who ISN'T stressed doing IVF - if that was the problem, we would never get anyone pregnant" I am now far less stressed trying for #2 and have had far more IVF attempts this time and still not fallen pregnant.

Aw Babytruj huge hugs I think enjoying your holidays sounds like a good thing then you'll be all fresh but hugs for now chick
Lairdoz: well said... too many people out there think that when your not stressed it will happen but what about women who have been raped, had family members die or just been flat out stressed with life in general and gotten pregnant without help...

Hi everyone,

I can never keep up with where everyone is at by the time I get to writing my reply (after reading all yours).

Anyway on the weekend I met 2 women who had IVF stories to share. One told me her sister in law had 3 cycles of IVF (full stim cycles each time) and the last one ended with a chemical pregnancy. I asked if she had a baby now and was told she is now pursuing the adoption route (not what I wanted to hear). But then the other woman got pregnant on her 1st IVF cycle (her husband had low sperm count so they used ICSI and since she had no medical fertility issues it worked first go). She has a 3 year old daughter now.

I also spoke to a friend of mine who was an egg donor for her cousin. She was 29 when she did it and she told me she was quite shattered when they only got 4 eggs and only one made it to an embryo for transfer (and then it didn't work). She said she had found it very upsetting as she was young and had always assumed she would be very fertile (she hasn't had her own kids yet but her sisters have been very fertile) and only getting so few eggs and embryos after all the injections made her wonder if she will have trouble concieving herself. I told her this atleast made me feel a bit better about my 12 eggs and only ending up with one embryo, and we were able to have a bit of a laugh about it as she often teases me about being old (I'm 4 years older than her) and I tease her about being a baby! LOL I asked about her cousin and she said they tried with another egg donor after that but still had no luck and she thinks they gave up after that. :-(

On a sad and happy note a friend of mine who had been trying to get pregnant naturally for about 6 years before looking into possibly using a sperm donor and finally going the IVF route (ICSI due to her partner's low sperm count) just gave birth. She got pregnant on her first IVF attempt (she only got one embryo from that cycle so this had given me hope when I had ended up with only one embryo). Well her son was born last week - 26 weeks gestation. He will be in hospital for 100 days apparently (if he survives). I hadn't spoken to her last week because of my BFN and just needing to not chat to people who were pregnant and now I feel really bad. It seems like they have been through so much with it being touch and go - he needed insulin & oxygen and at one stage he went down hill and they weren't allowed to touch him at all but now he is a bit better. It seems like he is a real fighter so I'm hoping for my friend that he can survive against the odds. I couldn't imagine going through all of this to try for a baby and then have it born so far prem and just praying so hard it survives. I feel guilty for having been upset about my disappointment with not getting pregnant as what she is going through is so much worse.

I have my appointment with my specialist on Thursday to discuss what my options are if I do decide to try again.

Lori
Started donor search Dec 06, Started donor insemination Jan 09, Started IVF Feb 10 - 1st cycle BFN and no frosties

Dreamrise - don't make yourself feel bad about not wanting to call your friend earlier. Dealing with your own pain and problems doesn't mean you think your problems are worse than everyone else's - they're just yours and no-one else is going to deal with them for you. Why is it that someone who has already been through so much has to now go through even more?

On the stress issue - I love people giving the advice - 'maybe you need to stop thinking about it for a while', it's right up there with 'maybe you should go out and get drunk then have sex - that's how I got pregnant'.

Good luck to those who are nearly the end of their TWW :crossfingers:

Evening ladies,

Inshell - sorry to hear that it was BFN, sucks big time. Enjoy your wine as it won't be long before you'll be off it for 9 months.

Yogi - hurry up AF!!! Probably one of the only times to want to bring on AF.

Kaybee - hope your doing well there.

Lairdoz - GL with the BTs hope you are on track. Infertility therapy...I'm a big fan of it. I told myself on the last cycle I did that if I wasn't UTD I would buy myself a new pair of shoes as a constellation prize.

Littlemissmoo - Did you ever have problems with getting the right dose of syneral or is it just the uncertain feeling? I sometimes wonder about this myself but I'm being scanned on Thursday so the truth will be known then. :crossfingers: for number 4.

Sevie - your a strong person to be in the job you are in whilst going through fertility treatment. I'm in social work and see referrals for children born to drug dependant parents and here I am trying to eat right, think right, act right etc. Life's not fair sometimes.

Terry - I'm not up yet with the ins and outs of FETs but I'm hoping yours will be on track.

Trueblue - all the home made stuff sounds absolutely fabulous. A child will be lucky to have you both as parents.

Babytruj - :hug: really sorry to hear about the chemical...that' really crap. Enjoy your break.

Possums - wishing you luck hunnie

Dreamrise - GL for Thursday. It is interesting when you start asking around how many people had problems concieving and did IVF. I've found a few myself when I mentioned my problems. It must be really tough for your friend. I'm sure she understands that you needed some time.

LisaB: aw you made me cry with that comment lol not hard to do atm... thank you
I have had an emotional day am putting it down to having a very very crap nights sleep and having a pregnyl booster yesterday... then I found out that my ex best friend is 3 months preg and she had a misscarraige a few years ago just miffs me a bit.. the worst though for today was saying goodbye to our last puppy who was three months old was so attatched to him I balwed my eyes out. Got to spent alot of quality time with my goddaughter today though which although tired me out i loved every minute of it

Hi everyone

There certainly has been a lot happening in here over the past few weeks. Hugs and kisses to everyone.

AFM - I did my first FET on Friday 21 May (which ended up being day 25) as I ovulated really late this cycle. Normally I'm a 28 day cycle however the stim cycle the month before messed with me a bit :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm off to get bloods done tomorrow and I'm pretty sure it will be a BFN. Warning - TMI....I started getting a light brown discharge on Sunday (day 34) and its been like that ever since. Although it did change colour to a more red today. So if AF has arrived, its very very light.

I'm thinking if it is a BFN we might start considering alternative options this month to help support the IVF. Thinking of making a booking to see Zam Martin in Spring Hill. Anyone used her?

Just wondering, I've been tested for all of the major fertility issues (so has DH) and apparently we are fine - can anyone else suggest other tests that I should be asking for?

I'm really worried that FS has overlooked something small and that no matter how many FETs we do, it won't work :(

Guess I'm just feeling pretty down about the whole thing at the moment.


xxoo
J

Inshelligent- you made me lol. I can't agree with you more!! I've talked several times to friends about people's TOP's and the idea of transplants!

Lisa- We get a lot of drug-dependant mother's/babies at my hosp, and women from the classic lower socio-economic multiple fathers story, and it still suprises me that I can be 'just fine' with them...they'd never know I had an issue. Except for when they ask me about having my own children. I general tell them honestly where I'm at, or at least that I do IVF, and hope they can appreciate there fortune even just a little bit.

Dreamrise- thanks for telling your friend's IVF stories, it so very much shows that anything can happen- good and bad! Why couldn't Mother Nature have shared out 'good fertility' fairly??!

Kaybee- didn't you know that you just had to have loads of stress-free holiday rolly-polly to get up the duff?! honestly!

Hi to all the other buds out there, hopeful today was a good one for you.

wow, this thread has been busy. I've been popping in and out and read so much I don't know where to start!

Justina - Good luck with your bloods. The FN stressed to me that even if I got bleeding that didn't mean a negative, especially if it's irregular. Stay positive!! FX'd for you!!

Trueblue - I feel for you, I really do. With so many other things going on right now you have a right to be emotional. Stay strong!

Dreamrise - thanks for sharing those stories. It really puts our own struggles into perspective. :pray: that you friend's baby overcomes this hurdle to live a long and healthy life.

Lairdoz - I like the idea of the medicare rebate... I could do with some retail therapy. Thanks for your words on stress. Going into my TWW, It makes me a bit less stressed to hear that it doesn't matter if i'm stressed!!! ;)

Babytruj - I'm sorry to hear that. Enjoy your time away. Make sure you get up to lots of mischief... you never know!

Inshelligent - Sorry about your results. Hope you enjoyed that wine! Good luck for your FETs!

I know i've missed a thousand people, and I hope all of you are well. Good luck with everything you are doing.

AFM - ET DAY!! 6 embies made it to this stage. So I guess 6 is my new lucky number?? To tell you the truth, I was a bit upset when they said only 6. I guess it's the hormones?? I'm really feeling the progesterone, but I was wondering, does OHSS go away straight after the egg collection? I have been sore and I can feel my ovaries aching... strange! I've got 3 days of bed rest planned and DH has agreed to wait on me hand and foot... so sweet. I'm gonna give this little embie a very comfortable home to burrow into!!