Hi Ladies
Tammara - Good luck for your appointment i'm sure it's all going to be fine.
Chez - Yes I do do opk's and chart my BBT.
Not really in a chatting mood had a meldown this morning.
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Hi Ladies
Tammara - Good luck for your appointment i'm sure it's all going to be fine.
Chez - Yes I do do opk's and chart my BBT.
Not really in a chatting mood had a meldown this morning.
Hi Ladies, just popping in to give you an update on the Femara.
My last post I was worried that I wasn't going to ovulate even though on the scan there was definately a follicle. Well i did ovulate but unfornately not preggas.
So anyway started on my next round of Femara the other day, and I have to tell you ladies, i think the issues I had with the first round might have been all in my head. I have had no probs so far, no hot flushes or headaches and not irritable.
hopefully this is a good sign for us, this will be our month and be a happy and heathy pregnancy without any drama.
Good luck to all of you.
Porsche - I hope you are ok - huge hugs.
AFM - I haven't been sleeping well due to having millions of thoughts going through my head about ttc & going back to work (I am on long service leave atm). I wish that this journey was easier or at least give me something, some sort of hope :S I don't know if I can do this anymore, it takes up too much of my energy and my emotional stress levels are not coping....
Hi everyone
I've just came back from a 4 night stay with 31 11 year olds and have been sleeping since getting home!
Trying to gage the mood on this site at the moment - think we are all feeling the same - bit emotional and a bit fed up!
I go to the hosp next week to discuss what happens next for us. I've had 4 rounds of clomid since October with a M/C after the 1st round. I am going to be way more demanding this time round. I will ask about the possibility of IVF - we get one round free on the NHS - but there is a long waiting list, and I would like to be on it while we are using clomid etc.
I have never felt so emotional before, always nauseous, and even having crazy dreams during the night. It would be great to abandon this journey, but I could never forgive myself for just giving up.
I think the fs wil increase my dose of clomid - although my last progesterone level was 48 - and hopefully they will track the developing follicles which might help me to identify when I am ovulating!
Anyway, hope you ladies are well and keeping everything crossed!
Claudette
Thanks everyone, I'm feeling much better now, but I think DH isn't too happy I have given it to him hehehe.
Rhi - hope you are feeling better, sending you big hugs.
nellym - fingers crossed for you this cycle, at least you know that it worked, just gotta get them spermies to swim the right way.
chez - I'm glad you got to talk to your fs about everything, it is even more stressful when you don't know why they are doing things. I ended up ringing up my fs up on my first cycle as I was unsure bout things and was so relieved after talking to him.
hannahfroodoo - goodluck with this cycle. Everyone O's at a different time so maybe you just O early in your cycle.
hope - wow 4 follies, fingers crossed. when talking with my fs about fsh injections and then the last injection to release the egg (forget what it is called), he said that there is no need to stop DTD before the injection and start DTD within 24 hrs of the injection.
AFM - I am now due for doing a pg test so will be doing one in the morning :pray:. I would have done one this mornig, but DH had other ideas this morning ;) (sorry for TMI).
:bluedust::pink-babydust: for everyone
Hi girls,
Porsche- you ok hon? hugs to you, and chat when you feel like it.
Rhi- GL going back to work. It is such a taxing journey TTC and people just don't get how much energy it takes. Try to ease back into work if you can, and hopefully it won't be too overwhelming. As for being fed up, I totally get that! I'm thinking it's almost time for a break, a few months off to just not have to think about it. hugs again!
Tammara- 17 weeks!!! oh my gosh. So glad all is well.
Claudette- Glad you're back. School camp hey? So glad I teach Prep (Infants? not sure what you call it there) and no camps in sight! Glad you are going back to FS. It mighht be worth getting onto that waiting list. You can always cancel later if you don;t need it.
Hope- i was told that I should DTD for 3 days from the trigger shot. I'm guessing it's all over and done for you now though!
Nelly- My first round was an aweful round for side effects too! I think our bodies just have to get used to it. Glad you o'd. GL for this month.
Chez-Glad you got it all sorted out. I am a huge control freak and I like to know the reasons why I have to do things. I'm glad you got your answers and hopefully are on the right track now. BTW I have been on 100mg clomid for all except the first cycle of clomid and it worked for me!
epayne- GL with your test! I am due to POAS tomorrow too, but I haven't even bought one becasue I'm very sure I'm not UTD this month! FX we have a BFP posting tomorrow!!!!!
hannahfroodoo- hopefully you caught the egg even if you didn't mean too! Hope the TWW goes fast for you!
Keli- hope all is well!
Hi to anyone else out there in cyberland.
AFM: pretty sure Af is due tomorrow, but not really sure becasue O was a bit all over the place this cycle! I have been a bit crampy, but only on one side so not sure what that means. I have no sore bb's, been tired but very busy, and thats it. Will probably just wait and see if AF arrives in the next few days. I think next round I'm gonna be naughty and go back to clomid instead of the injections. I was so much more relax on that casue I knew what to expect. Maybe with the metformin, I might have some luck and get a sticky one.
have a great week girls,
Bec
Hi Ladies
Hope you all had a great week end.
Liz & Bec I'm hoping you get your BFP this time. That would be fantastic.
Clamgee - Wow school camp. How brave you are hehe.
AFM not much happening just waiting to O. I'll start my OPK's tonight. Hopefully I O early this cycle. I have a meeting with work today and I'm going to be discussing the possibility of someone else being trained in certain parts of my job because I'll have to have time off starting the end of the month so we can start IVF and I can't be called in the middle of EPU to sort some drama out for them.
Bec goodluck with getting a BFP, fingers are crossed for you.
porsche hope all goes well with your meeting and that they understand what you are going through.
AFM I so feel like crying at the moment. Last night DH and I had a bit of a fight over what to do next if this cycle didn't work (which now I know it didn't I got a BFN :cry: ) He wants to try doing clomid 100mg for another cycle as this cycle wasn't the best for DTD as both of us have had the flu. I keep asking him to read the booklets the fs gave us but he's not that interested which anoys me, just cause I'm the one with the problems and not him. AAHHHHH. But I just don't know I really only had that one day where I thought I o'd and bedding was good at that time. (sorry for TMI) Our next appointment with the fs is on thurs and our fs said last time that if this cycle didn't work he would like us to try FSH injections as well as clomid.. And to top it off I don't know if my boss is going to like me not coming into work till late due to having all the BT and US in the mornings if I do the injections. I'm just a little confused and don't know what to do and DH isn't helping at the moment.
Liz
SOrry for the rant, just needed to get it off my chest
Morning Ladies,
Wow Tammara, 17weeks already I can’t believe it, so exciting. Are you going to find out the sex? Will you tell us? GL with your first midwife appointment.
HannahFroodoo, sorry hun, I’m not sure how early you can O on Clomid, I would defiantly think it is possible to O whilst still on them though, maybe it was just you on your own working and not the drugs, GL for that BFP!
Hope, fantastic news about the follicles, GL catching them.
Chez69, GL with this second round of Clomid, I hope it does the trick for you. I too went from 50mg to 100mg and experienced a lot less symptoms on the higher dose, strange hey?
Oh Porsche, I hope you’re ok Honey, meltdowns are totally normal, hope you had a lovely weekend and are feeling a little better. GL in your meeting today, yes you’re right you totally cannot be interrupted by work, hopefully they will understand and train someone else for you.
Nellym, fantastic news about O’ing, so sorry your not UTD though Glad to hear the second round it treating you nicer. Oh yey positive conception thoughts, it’s been a while since they’ve been on this site (for obvious reasons) GL hun, I have everything crossed for you.
Jules, oh hun, hope you too are feeling a little better after the weekend, I totally get what you are going through but I promise you it is worth the pain. When do you get your results from your lap? Hopefully they will have some good new in store for you.
Claudette, WOW 31 x 11yo’s that’s enough to drive anyone insane. Totally agree with being more assertive with your fs, I think because they are the professionals sometimes we just agree with what they say, but at the end of the day it is our bodies going through the roller coaster and you should be able to do whatever you want. GL hun, and Bec’s right you can always cancel later if you don’t need IVF.
Liz, Oh hun, my DH was totally the same, not willing to discuss anything, really didn’t want to do IVF but couldn’t explain why and yes I too felt that it was my fault that we could not conceive cos DH had no issues. Remember that this is a team effort though, this is not all your problem to sort out. Unfortunately I don’t really have any advice on what to do with DH. I ended up packing up all our TTC things, thermometer, Elevit tablets, paperwork etc and putting it all in a box and not talking about TTC again until finally DH said to me one day “Is everything ok? You haven’t mentioned babies in the past 2 weeks”, he finally came around and we were able to discuss it. I think I was just bombarding him with so much information and unfortunately it takes them a little longer to process things. And don’t apologise for TMI, it’s great to be DTD when you’re not TTC, good on you, gave me a giggle too, thanks! Hope you are able to get things sorted before your app on Thursday.
Bec, FX we have a BFP postings from you, I can’t believe you haven’t bought a test yet. I have everything crossed for you love. If you are more comfortable on the Clomid then defiantly go back on it (if you need to that is), you know it works and hopefully Met will help bubba hold on. GL! Yes all is well with me thanks hun.
AFM: Not too much too report, ms is still hanging around (I’m not complaining though) and we have our 12 week scan this Friday, will let you all know how it goes.
GL to everyone this month, I really really really hope we see some BFP’s on here soon, it has been way too long.
Xxoo
Hi Ladies :hello:
So i may have been stalking this thread for a while! ;)
Hubby and I have an appointment at the end of this month with the FS.
He is going to start me on chlomid, and i have a little idea what it is / does ... but i was wondering if i could get a few pointers or help with some questions on what to ask the FS about this drug and when/how to take it and when scans/blood tests should be booked etc ... cos you get scans dont you? :redface:
TIA :)
Hello everyone,
Claudette - I agree with Bec, get on that waiting list but in the meantime you can continue with other methods for ttc in the meantime. I hope you get your BFP prior to heading down the IVF path though. But we do what we have to I guess? - That is what my gf said to me on the weekend, I was a little shocked she was not more sympathetic towards how I am feeling atm but I guess she is right at the end of it.
Liz - Sorry about your BFP.... do you think it was too early to test though?
I understand how you are feeling towards your DH not being more interested in the booklets your FS gave you. I remember my gf telling me about their meeting with the nurse at the fertility clinic prior to them starting IUI & her DH HAD to know what was going on b/c he needed to help with the injections! Maybe if you get to that stage your DH will take more notice. The other thing is & sorry if this sounds condesending (it is not my intention) I think we are so much more emotional anyway and think ahead, probably too far ahead when we don't need to & maybe your DH is trying not to get ahead of where you are in your journey? I know that I am always thinking what if we have to do IUI/IVF etc.... but I don't bother discussing it with my DH b/c I know what he will say, we'll deal with it when we get to that point...... Anyway sorry for that long winded text. Thinking of you. x
Bec - Sorry if AF is on her way :S Is it really an issue going back on Clomid after doing the injections? Perhaps some intuition is kicking in? I have heard heaps of + reports about staying on Met whilst ttc & falling pg then weaning yourself off. FX for you, KUP
Porsche - I hope you are ok and that your chat with work is a positive one.
Keli - I get my results on the 8th June. A few friends thought it was a long wait & I should have know straight away. But I was very sleepy and took a long time to feel ok in recovery that I don't think I would have taken much in anyway. I'd rather chat in the OBGYN office about the results and the where to.... I just hope next week hurrys up cos I am a little impatient to get the results. I am actually terrified they won't find anything wrong..... I know if that is the case I will feel like a total failure :S GL with your scan on Friday, KUP
Kris - Welcome to our thread. I hope you can get some answers & your BFP soon. I take Clomid from days 3-7 and have a progesterone test on CD 21 to confirm I have O & what the levels are. I know some have more monitoring, like scans & stuff. Hopefully the other ladies will come in & give you some info on their experience on Clomid.
Hi to everyone else, I know I have missed a few persies with people & I do apologise.... I promise to be more attentive. x
Hi Ladies
Miss Kris - I never had scan while taking clomid. All I had was the 21 day B/T. So it's going to depend on what your FS decides to do. Your FS will tell you when to take clomid. it's normally CD2-6 or CD5 - 9. Again it depends on your FS.
Liz - Perhaps your DH is afraid of the costs involved? I know my DH wanted me to do this last clomid cycle to delay the IVF because of the costs. Not that we are worried about money but YKWIM. I could just be he is afraid?
Hi again,
Welcome Tia, to this wonderful, supportive thread. I hope your stay is only a short one.
I have always taken Clomid days 5-9 and at night time, most people will tell you this is the best time to take it as you will sleep through most of the side effects. However hot flushes and severe mood swings seem to be something none of us were ever able to avoid, be make DH aware of them early, he he! I always had a blood test b/w day 21-24 of my cycle to see if I had O’d on Clomid. I never had scans to check on my follicles but plenty of women have.
Hope this small piece of info is helpful to you, and GL with your TTC journey!
Jules, Yeah that sounds about right to wait a few weeks for your results, the only reason I knew mine early was cos I’m impatient and I asked as soon as I woke up, lol. I totally know what you mean about wanting something to be wrong, but just remember that if they cannot seem to find anything wrong sometimes all your body need is a bit of a flush out, they say they a women is extremely fertile for the 6 months following a lap, and we know from past history on this site that it clearly works, I have everything crossed for you though hun, KUP.
Welcome Kris! I have always taken clomid CD5-9, and had scans from about CD12 until I o. It will depend on FS as Porsche said. Definately take it at night, and be prepared for some side effects for the first round. For some reason they often lessen with the next cycle (unless you are UTD and only need to take it once! FX hey?!) The hot flushes are probably the most annoying SE and the mood swings, but they only last for the 5 days you take them usually. Also, invest in some 'preseed' becasue taking clomid can have an odd effect on CM and this might help. A few other girls might be able to shed more light on that?
Liz- maybe you could do what Keli did and just don't mention it for a while. Can DH come with you to the appointment? I found DH was more supportive once he was more intune with this being OUR journey NOT JUST MINE! Although it's my medical problem, the TTC thing takes 2. I did the FHS injections this months and it wasn't as much monitoring as I thought. Although my FS is a bit slack I think.
Jules- hope your feeling better, and the wait doesn't feel like forever. Hopefully just the lap itself will help, even if they don't find anything. Hugs
Porsche- how did the meeting go?
AFM: no AF and I still haven't tested. I just can't. Maybe in a day or too. This is very unlike me I know (usually by now I've done at least 3 early pregnancy tests!!!). I still don't feel much one way or another. Actually (sorry TMI) I've had in increase in CM the last few days. Maybe I didn't o at all...
Send huga amounts of POSITIVE VIBES TO ALL and sprinkling you all liberally with :bluedust::pink-babydust:
Bec
Hi Bec
The meeting went well. I knew it would though. It's not up to me to find someone now it's up to them and if they haven't sorted it out b the end of June well that's not my problem.
Has anyone heard of the sperm meets egg plan? I thought I'd give it a go on this last cycle. Dh said that he was just here to "top up my tank" lol Had to laugh at the big dag. God you should hear him waffling on in my ear about being a hunk a hunk of burning love lol God he's gonna make me sick!
Thanks everyone for the messages.
Keli I will try not to talk bout it to much with him, it's just I want to know where his mind is at before we go to the fs appointment on thurs.
Bec, we are doing this whole thing together, DH has been to all appointments from the gp appointment to get a referral and all of our fs appointments. We both want to know whats going on and it's easier for both of us if we have questions to ask. My fingers are crossed for you to having a BFP when you do take the test.
Porsche I don't think it's the cost as the fs said how much it would cost to do the injections and we are ontop of everything at the moment.
Tia welcome to this thread it is a great one to be on and all the ladies are so supportive. Just a little on my clomid journey to see if it helps you. My fs doesn't get me to have the blood tests as he said that if a don't get AF or aren't PG then obviously the clomid didn't work, Oh I'm also on provera as I don't get AF regulary. I took the clomid day 2-6 and had it in the morning. I only had side effects on the first cycle and none on this one. Hope this helps you out GL with your ttc journey.
The thing I'm a bit anoyed about is he just won't talk to me openly bout how he is feeling (prob just a male thing :wall:) and have a discussion bout it he just says keep trying clomid but won't elaberate. I don't want to seem selfish but it's my body and just have this feeling with whats going on.
Rhi I was thinking about doing another test either on wed or thurs morning before going to the FS just incase, I haven't had any real signs of being Pg other than every so often having sore BB's, but I get that when I'm due for AF to arrive.
Chez - thank you! you put my mind at ease as I was so confused about Oing whilst still taking the pills. I was so happy to see you had asked your doctor about the same thing! Have you Od now? How did you go getting your assignment in?
Rhi - good luck with your results next week. It is so hard to wait for them but I think it is better. After my lap/hyst the doctor came in and spoke to me and I had no recollection of what he said - even had to ask the nurses if he was really there since I thought I'd imagined it! So I was a bit annoyed that he came to speak to me whilst I was still so sleepy. At least when you go next week, you will be able to take everything in.
Kris - welcome! I am new to clomid as well. some people have scans but my doctor just has me come in for blood tests. I am taking the clomid days 5-9 and this cycle I had a blood test day 13. As it turned out, this was already too late as I had Od early so next time I will go in sooner. good luck. I hope your appt goes well.
Bec - did AF arrive yet? I am crossing everything for you!
Porsche - I hope you get your egg soon. Does work know your plans to start IVF? I imagine that would be an uncomfortable conversation. What is the sperm meets egg plan?? LOL at your DH.
nelly - fingres crossed for a BFP following a cycle with NO side effects. that's great that you are feeling better on the femara this cycle. And good news that you Od too. good luck!
Claudette - ooooh. I don't envy you your school camp experience! totally understand why you've been sleeping!
Keli - thanks. did you do clomid? how long did you take it for before you got your BFP?
Liz - ((hugs)) sorry your DH is not being so supportive. I think it is a male thing. Not that it makes it any easier, but my DH is not interested in reading any info either. His SA came back normal so he is not really interested in hearing about WHY I am taking the clomid. I think it is a very different experience for them. My DH is usually very understanding and supportive but when it comes to TTC, he doesn't get it. DO you think you will do the injections? I know my fertility clinic opens at 6:30am for blood tests etc (and when I got there at that time, there were heaps of women ahead of me and they looked like they'd been in full swing for a while). So maybe you will be able to fit the BT in before work? good luck. it is really tough when you don't have the support you need from DH!
ASM - just TWWing. 8 dpo and it's killing me - but it always does!! bring on the weekend when I can test!
Have a good day everyone!
Hey Hannahfroodoo,
So we were TTC for just over 3 years before getting our BFP. DH & I both went to a naturopath for over 12 months, this helped me to get a regular AF (as I only got it twice a year prior) but didn’t help me to O. I then went on Clomid for 6 months with still no BFP. Then in January this year I had a lap and then went back on Clomid and it was my 3rd cycle post lap that we conceived. Sorry for the long explanation but I wanted to give you the full story rather than just saying I conceived after 9 rounds of Clomid cos that’s not quite correct.
GL to you all, I can’t wait to see some more BFP’s on here very very soon.
Bec, when are you going to test? The suspense is killing me!!!!!!
Hi Again! :)
So i am following up on this preseed but ... dum dum duuuuuum no where in my town sells it (small country town)
Where do you ladies get yours and did any of you order off the net?
Epayne - just a thought ... my hubby tells me he is "ok" and there is "nothing wrong" but i find that he likes to sort through his head all the thoughts regarding TTC etc and then when he feels he has grasped it better he opens up ... but of course they are not all the same? Maybe you could ask him if he didn't want to vocalise how he is feeling, if he wanted to write a list of his emotions? Then you work through them one by one and talk about each and see if you can figure out why he is feeling that way? I also find when my hubby doesn't want to talk about it, he doesn't understand ... maybe he wants some more questions answered?
Sorry if that doesn't make sense ... i hope you two work it out soon! TTC is stressful on the both of you! But it should only make you stronger when it all gets sorted out! :)
Hey Miss Kris,
Google pre-seed at lullay conceptions. This is where I have bought mine from before. Or you could check out the preseed website.
Hope this helps
Hi Ladies
This is the sperm meets egg plan -
Sperm Meets Egg Plan
Little did I know when I developed this plan in 1999 that it would end up being my most Googled page! But here is my pregnancy plan, designed to maximize the effectiveness of your attempts to get pregnant, and to minimize how long it takes for that elusive big fat positive.
Deanna’s Plan
Whether you are trying again after a miscarriage, or frustrated that you can’t seem to get pregnant again after a successful pregnancy, the sperm meets egg plan is for women who have gotten pregnant in the past, and therefore do not have significant infertility problems that need to be tested and treated. It is also a good plan to try for a first pregnancy if you want to do something serious to increase your chances before finally going in for a doctor visit about fertility.
Even if you have had an easy time getting pregnant in the past, pregnancy tends to change your hormonal makeup, so sometimes timing is not the same as it was before. This plan will ensure that sperm gets to your egg. Whether or not a viable pregnancy results (the odds are about 1 in 4 even if you time it right), is up to nature.
Be prepared for a month of serious loving!
The Plan
Short Version:
“Try” every other night starting Day 8
Buy 10 ovulation predictor kit sticks
Begin ovulation testing on Day 10
When test is positive, “try” that night, plus two additional nights in a row
Skip one night, then do one last “try”
Take a home pregnancy test 15 days after your ovulation test was positive, if your period has not begun
If your ovulation test never goes positive, continue “trying” every other night until Day 35, then do a pregnancy test if your period has not begun.
Statistics coming in from women who write me show that about 40% of post-miscarriage women will get pregnant on the first try if they are faithful to the plan, about double the number of the normal population who are not on the plan. This assumes, of course, that you waited for a normal cycle to begin after your loss, and did not begin trying before having a period after a miscarriage. Many women do not ovulate in that first cycle.
Detailed Version:
On day 8 of your cycle, counting from the first day you bled, begin “trying” every other night. Begin taking Ovulation Predictor Kits (or continue with your Ovulation computer) on Day 10. Buy two five-packs so as not to scrimp on taking them and stop too early. To make sure your OPK is working well, take your test in the afternoon or after work and do not drink any liquids or go to the bathroom for at least four hours prior to testing. (Morning is not a good time for OPKs, which look for the LH surge, which usually happens during the day.) Read your OPK instructions carefully, as usually a faint line does not indicate a positive, you need a line that is darker than the test line. LH is produced throughout your cycle and will only predict ovulation when it has a big surge. When your OPK turns positive, begin trying every night for three consecutive nights, skip the fourth night, and then once more. Then you can stop! (It is fine to continue just for fun, though!) The waiting begins.
Take a home pregnancy test 15 or 16 days after your OPK was positive if your period has not begun. Do not buy internet pregnancy tests or tests that claim to work before your period is expected. They are not well manufactured and are not reliable. They will only cause you more anxiety than you already feel in wanting to know. Please resist the urge to do a blood test at your doctor’s office just to find out sooner unless you have a medical reason to know early. Fertilized eggs that do not grow are actually a terrible but normal occurrence as much as 75% of the time, and seeing a very low put positive blood test in the first 14 days can place you on a terrible emotional roller coaster. By the time a home pregnancy test is positive, your baby has safely implanted and your odds of miscarriage are down to a normal 10%.
Should your OPK never become positive, keep the every other day trying going until day 35. I recommend at that point taking a home pregnancy test, but even if it is negative, you might want to take a quantitative hCG blood test at your doctor’s office. Remember that not every women will ovulate every month. I personally did not ovulate for two months following my first miscarriage.
As you are trying, make sure to “release” the sperm in your partner at least once during the gap between ovulation and new cycle Day 8 so that no more than 10 days elapse without new sperm production. Sperm is also a cause of genetic damage, not just eggs, so keep it fresh! If you are not successful the first month, it is not because your sperm did not get to your egg. 75% of eggs are lost within the first 14 days due to normal genetic damage or failure to fertilize. Just keep trying!
Here are a few facts that may surprise you:
Many books tell you that sperm can last for 5 days and the egg for 24 hours. While this is technically true on the very long end (and something to follow if you trying to NOT get pregnant), most sperm will only last about two hours if you do not have fertile-quality cervical mucus for it to swim in. The sperm will struggle to swim up to your uterus, use all its reserves, and not make it. The egg typically lives only about 12 hours, so it cannot wait for long. You can now see how important that cervical mucus is! You will never get pregnant with sperm living two hours and an egg only twelve. This information is really just to make you feel better if you’ve been trying a long time and all your infertility testing came back normal. If the Deanna-plan does not work and you are faithful to it for three months, take a dose of plain Robitussin cough syrup (or any cough medicine that says “expectorant” and NOT “antihistamine”) each day (preferably a few hours prior to “trying”) starting around Day 10 until the day after your ovulation predictor goes off. It should help make all the mucus in your body runnier, including that produced by your cervix. (Oh the gruesome details required in baby-making!) The sperm in the runnier mucus will live about two days, and will be up there and ready for the 12-hour life of the egg. A NOTE ABOUT CLOMID: Clomid causes cervical mucus to dry up in 25% of the women who take it. If you notice your mucus is not plentiful as it was before taking this drug, take the Robitussin and call your doctor to make sure your really need the Clomid. If you are ovulating on your own and do not have a documented luteal phase defect, you most likely do not need it.
“Trying” too often can actually do more harm than good. Do not try every night! You will get exhausted and sore, and your mucus–both for fertility and for lubrication–will dry up, and you will stop trying too early in the month or miss an important day. Every other day is absolutely sufficient, with three nights in a row during peak time sealing the deal.
Don’t worry about stress! Regular old worries about getting pregnant, and if you will ever have children, are perfectly normal and do NOT affect your fertility. Ignore those people who tell you just to relax and stop thinking about it. This is not their problem! The only thing that could actually affect you is serious stress, like moving to a new house, losing your job, family deaths, and other things that make you physically ill or depressed. This can delay your ovulation, or make you not ovulate in a cycle, since you will produce an excess amount of the stress byproduct called prolactin. It will not affect you for long, and the next month you should come back and be normal again.
An early period is not an indication of an early miscarriage, even if you know you timed your trying perfectly. Usually it means that the egg was not fertilizable, and so progesterone was not adequately produced. This shortens your cycle. Sometimes eggs simply don’t develop properly during the ovulation process. It is usually a one-month problem. If you are regularly seeing that fewer than 10 days are passing between ovulation and your period, however, it’s time to be tested for a luteal phase defect. You can read more about that under hormone causes of miscarriage.
Good luck to everyone. Baby dust, baby dust, baby dust!
It can't hurt to try anyway.
Awesome article Porsche, you're right it can’t hurt. In fact this is just about to the tee what DH and I did the month we conceived. Clearly it works. Also how great that you can try it without giving up other things you're also trying, eg Clomid, met, etc. GL to anyone willing to give it a go.
Lets hope it does the trick! :)
Hannahfroodoo - Thanks, DH and I had a big D&M last night when we went to bed and talked about everything. From what he was talking about he just didn't understand what was going on with my body and when he actually listed to what I was saying he seemed to get it. I must say that I slept much better last night. GL with your TWW hopefully it doesn't drag on for you like it seemed to do for my last cycle.
Bec - how are you going, any testing done yet??? fingers crossed
AFM - as said above DH and I finally discussed everything and have decided that that next cycle we are going to try the FSH injections and see how we go. So now it's just the waiting game till thursday when we see the FS.
Tested and BFN, not sure what to do. Af still not here and CM is increasing. I'm thinking I best get back to the Dr for a BT!
Hi Ladies
Oh Bec I'm so sorry. I don't know what to say. I know how you feel. When is AF due?
Liz - I'm glad you and your DH had a big chat. Hopefuly your both on the same page now and can move forward.
Oh Bec, I'm so sorry. You poor love, hugs! BT sounds like a good idea, what day are you up to? And yeah what Porsche said, when's AF due?
Liz, glad you were able to discuss with DH, sometimes they just take a little longer than us to process things. Sounds like you're both on the same page now though which is wonderful. GL on Thursday hun!
Bec - :hug: sporry about the bfn. you're a couple of days overdue for AF. is that right? I hope a blood test can give you some answers about what's going on.
Liz - yay! sounds like you and DH have agreed on a plan anyway. that's good news. good luck tomorrow. I hope the appt goes well for you.
Porsche - good luck with your sperm meets egg plan! definitely sounds like a good one! Have you tried the robitussin before?
Keli - 3 years! thanks for sharing your story. It is interesting that the naturopathic stuff helped you to cycle but not to O. Do you think the lap is what helped you finally get your BFP?
Thanks guys.
I thought AF was due Monday going by when I thought I o'd but it might have been anywhere up to Thursday. Just waiting for Af and I'll start the clomid this month. At least I know for sure when I o on that cause it hurts!
Jules- I'm actually wodering if I did o. Hade the usual signs but less pain than usual, but I put that down to not having clomid
Hope you're all ok!
Bec
Hi ladies
Bec did you do any OPK's this cycle? It's a bit of a pain not knowing if you O'd. I hope AF shows up soon for you. I hate getting a BFN and then having to wait for her to show up. I think out of all the waiting we do that one is the absolute worst.
Hi all
Well, we went to the FS today after our 4 rounds of Clomid! Going back on the Clomid wagon again for another 3 cycles - still 50mg - says because i'm ovulating there is no need to up the dosage.
He will also recommend us for IUI then IVF - IVF has an 18month waiting list here on the NHS. I'm hoping it doesn't go that far but who knows. Not really sure how I'm feeling at the moment about it all. Emotional...... as usual!
Claudette
Morning all,
Clamgee, just wanted to send you big hugs! Hope you're feeling ok. A few questions, have you had a lap (sorry I can’t remember) did he mention maybe having one? That's great news that he will recommend you for IUI and IVF, nothing worse than having to fight for that. What's the waiting list like for IUI? Can you maybe pay for some cycles or either IUI of IVF whilst waiting for your free one? Sorry about all the questions I'm just very interested. Hopefully a few more rounds of Clomid will do the trick for you and you won't have to worry about any of that anyway. GL hun and fx.
Xxoo
Hello all! Hope you are all doing ok....
Bec - I understand your frustration of not knowing what is going on.... I acutually thought I O quite a few days ago but today I have sticky CM, almost like EWCM but I have no O pain, so I don't know what is going on. Maybe we should just DTD in case?! Gosh I wish it were easier!!!! What day are you going off that you O? Don't you have a 35 day cycle? (or am I getting confused?), so how many DPO do you think you are??? Sorry for all the q's....
Claudette - OMG 18 month waiting list - that is madness, can you go on the list now whilst ttc on Clomid, so it cuts down the wait time? I hope you get your BFP on Clomid, I was on 50mg & although I never fell pg I did O and felt O pains, which is much more that I usually got. I will have more info next week after seeing OBS/GYNO & will KUP.
Bec big :hug: coming your way, hopefully a blood test will give you the anwers. The one thing about me is that I don't get my periods due to my PCOS so even if I don't get my periods doesn't mean that I am PG, which makes it hard.
Claudette hopefully you won't need to do IUI or IVF, but at leats now your FS is listening and he will be putting you on the wait list for it. And don't worry about being emotional, with what our bodies are going through both physically and metally we should be aloud to be emotional sometimes.
AFM we went to our FS app this morning and I know that I'm not PG as he did an internal ultrasound and had a look at my uterus. I think my DH still has to get used to be in the room while he does them. Our FS lets DH see the screen which is good cause he knows what is going on (when he wants to though). Anyway our FS was going to get us to try the FSH injections but as he is going on holidays for 3 weeks in July he isn't as it was going to be then that he has to monitor me with ultrasounds every couple of days. SO we are still just on the provera and clomid for this cycle but I am now going to have 150mg of clomid.
Well I better go and pick up DH from work. GL everyone.
Liz
Hi girls,
The good news is that I am feeling decidedly periody today, so hoping AF arrives tonight. Never thought I'd be so happy AF was on it's way, but it's better than not ovulating!
Porsche- I didn't OPK this month becasue FS said it might not work becasue of the FSH injections (apparently they give a false positive?) Since I'll be back on clomid next month I will OPK this month, although I kind of know what to expect at least!
Jules- I normally have a 35 day cycle but I thought I ovulated at about CD17 which was a good 5 days earlier than normal. Turns out it was still CD2, just had CM for longer! Hopefully you are ovulating. Get to it girl! Are you feeling ok for all that though?
Claudette- Glad you were to FS and at least touched base. 18 month wait for IVF! At least your on the list now so if it does come to that you're a little closer to the top of the list. Hopefully the next 3 round eventuate in a BFP and you won't need to worry. FX for you
Liz- I know exactly what you mean about no AF!!! Without clomid I can go about 16 months without AF. It's heartbreaking when you think AF is due and it doesn't come so you get excited and then find out that not only are you not pregnant you're not even ovulating!!! I fully get your frustration. With clomid, I have a had the first regular cycle I've had since I was 18 when things went haywire. So sorry you're out for this month. Were you ovulating on 100mg? (I can't get back to the other page to check, sorry) The FSH injections is much more full on, so hopefully the clomid works and you don't need to go there! (It's not that bad, but more monitoring).
AFM: AS I said hopefully AF will be here tonight so a new cycle! I went to a psychic who said I'd conceive a baby during the cancerian starsign so maybe this will be the time! (I'm not holding my breath but you never know!)
Bec
Well Bec, FX for you! Plus Cancerian starsigns are awesome ;)
I want to try to dtd even though my belly button is still sore, just not for baby making but for intimacy - it's been a while and if we are going to go mad next month and beyond then I feel we should just for the fun - IYKWIM? I really just want to be pg I guess and I am looking for any signs without OPK's & temping (both I didn't really like doing). I am feeling a little left out of my mums group as all the girls have either had their second or are having their second - one of my closer gf in the group is 14 weeks without actually really trying for it that month - she didn't want a December baby & they were in the process of starting IUI..... I just want to be part of the happy stuff too :)
I am going to a psychic & crystal healer on Tuesday (not that DH knows as he 'doesn't beleive in that stuff') just to see what she thinks about all this ttc bizo (prior to OBSGYNO appt). I have heard excellent reports about this lady (I haven't been to her before) so I am hoping this sheds some not so medical advice on things....
Anyway, off to bed and speak soon
Take care all, thinking of you always my lovelies :)
Hi Ladies
All this talk of psychics. I was going to get my mum to organise going to one next week end. I've been bugging her for the last 6 months to go so I think I'll make her make the appointment. The particular one we will go to is one I have been to before and she was very accurate.
I made my appointment with QFG to start IVF. I go back on the 22nd of June to start. I'll know by then if we are UTD as AF is due on the 20th.
Keli - Good luck for your scan today. I'm sure it's all fine! Thinking of you!
Porsche - good luck this month. how does it feel having the IVF appointment made? a bit daunting? I am going through QFG for my monitoring and IUI. would be very funny if I had actually seen you in the blood test line up in the morning without knowing it!
Rhi - I know exactly what you mean - I always make sure we DTD when it is NOT egg time so DH knows I still care about him, not just his sperm. lol.
Bec - it is relieving when you work out where you are at in your cycle. I hate that feeling of being confused and kind of out of control when you don't know what your body is up to.
Liz - good luck with this orund of clomid. Hopefully it is enough and you don't have to do the FSH. I hope the 150mg doesn't give you any trouble. My DH doesn't come in the room for internal u/s. I think he is happy to sit those out! Although he was interested to see pics of poly cystic ovaries and normal ovaries that I googled for him.
Claudette - what a waiting list! I guess it is good that NHS covers it but it is a long time to wait.
Keli - I hope your scan went well.
AFM - studying hard to try and keep my mind of TWW. I'm 11DPO and slight temp drop today so AF is probably arriving on the weekend - perfect timing! I did a test today (can't help myself) which was BFN and I'll test tomorrow if my temp looks good but really expecting it to drop and AF to arrive. Oh well. at least the other half of my box of clomid won't go to waste!