LTTTC & Assisted Conception ~ February 2006 #2

Thanks everyone for welcoming me, the TWW is chugging along.... s-l-o-w-l-y! [-o<

Shez, I am so sorry to hear about your cousins, depression is such a sad, sad illness and takes a lot of out family members especially when it ends so tragically. Make sure you look after yourself.

Cherie, I agree with you re the multiplies too, we got bombarded with advice as to whether to put one or two embryos back but in the end we went with two. The only thing that worries me is that I am quite small, only 5'2" but I figure if it does happen this time [-o< round and I dont manage to carry twins to term then we will only put one back next time. But yes, two seems like a bonus when you have tried so long to have just one.

Meredith, glad you got your op in on the day you wanted. I HATE all the waiting around you have to do before a lap. The second lap I had was to remove endo from the wall of my bowell (very charming, to be sure) and I had to drink this horrendous concoction the day before to clean my bowell out, it was absolutely hideous to say the least. Anyway, I couldn't eat or drink for 24 hours befor the op and was so weak and thirsty when they took me in I was ready to kiss the feet of my anethitist - just knock me OUT! I don't think he's ever had someone that keen!

I am off to Melbourne for a few days, I was a bit nervous about flying during my TWW but my doctor assured me that a 1.5 hr flight wouldn't be a problem and I have a little radiation absorber to take that my natropath gave me. It's a girls weekend with some friends, so a nice diversion during my TWW.

Hope everyone is going okay, it's so nice to have you guys to talk to. Take care.

Hi ladies,
nice to know that a site like this exists and makes the whole experience much easier. We have been trying to conceive now for 2.5 years but at least now we know why.

We have done all the preliminary tests and the doctors recommended ICSI as hubby has a low sperm count etc. We have a scheduled appointment in March to see the nurses and sort out all the paperwork and then will hopefully start in April.

In the meantime I have gone to have my breasts checked (as the doctors recommended this) and the GP found that my left breast is quite lumpy!...she thinks its due to my hormones (i'm expecting a period tomorrow) and thinks its nothing to worry about but has given me a paper to go off and do an ultrasound.......very scary....I can't help but think that they are going to find something nasty and that my IVF and dream of being a mum is once again going to be put on hold.... :fuming:

Whilst a part of me know that I need to get the ultrasound done and get clarification the other part of me says to not go and just do the IVF and risk it....... :(

has anyone else had a similar thing happen or experience???? ](*,)

Good evening all,

Wow what a wonderful day I have had, Firstly i won a cd by being the 8th caller thru on the radio and then this avo I went to check the mail and low and behold i entered a competition 2 weeks ago in the local news paper and one, 2 tickets to John Farnham Concert next Thursday night.

I am just so excited. DH said that it comes in threes so may be just may be this could be our month.

half your luck nola!!

sprinkle some of your luck this way :D

Thanks Danni, Here is your sprinkle....*****.....

fantastic! you're so generous

let it be this month for us :)

Nola - Of course you're welcome back here hunny. Congrats on your wins as well. I hope some of your luck rubs off :luck:

Danni - Best of luck at the specialists tomorrow. I've forgotten (sorry :oops: ) - do you have PCOS, or are you suspecting that you don't ovulate for a different reason?

Shan - I replied to you in TTC buddies, but wanted to say congrats on your GTT results. It's always great to know that there's one less complication to worry about (and one less medication to have to purchase LOL)

Rose - I hope you have a great weekend in Melbourne. A girly weekend sounds like fun! I am having a 'ladies lunch' on saturday with a girlfriend ... I'm going to cook Nigella style food, and actually put a tablecloth on the table :shock:

Destiny - lumpy breasts are definitely not unusual (my GP describes mine as being like a bag of rocks LOL), and I really think you'll probably worry less if you do get the ultrasound done. Otherwise, you'll always have the 'what if' hanging over your head.

I start a course of progesterone tomorrow, to bring on AF. Since my CD21 blood test showed that I didn't ovulate, the OB has increased my clomid dose to 100mg, and gave me the prescription for provera, since my anovulatory cycles last anything up to 90 days (and I wasn't prepared to wait that long).

hey cherie, after my first initial blood tests they told me i had elevated insulin so classed me as having "pcos"

but i have no other criteria...

i never get a true positive opk and my temp never rises.

hope it all goes well tomorrow! i want clomid dammit!!

Thanks Inspiration 8-[
glad to know that I'm not the only one with a lumpy breast and of course I will always wonder 'what if'

Good Luck to all the other ladies.........

:grouphug:

Hi ladies, Still have another couple of days off work recovering so more time to chat he..he.!
Nola -welcome to this thread. I have followed many of your posts in the TTCAML loss forum. I will probably join in there soon so don't worry, you won't be alone. Congrats on the wins -hope that your luck is changing and you soon get the biggest prize of all!
Shan - Great news re your GTT -they are a real pain eh? I hope the next one I have to do is when I am heavily pg!
Destiny - Its not for me to tell you what to do but I would go and get the scan. You would not want to find out that anthing was wrong during a pregnancy and have it affect the outcome. Plus, the odds are that the results will be ok and then you will not need to worry. Good luck!
Rose - I am very glad I got my surgey over and done with -otherwise would have had to go through the whole thing again today or next week. Good luck for your TWW -hopefull good news in here soon!

As for me, still very tired and a bit sore but not too bad -just want the next few weeks to get over with so I can get back into another treatment cycle. I will be doing OI with Monash IVF again -anyone else from melbourne with them?

Inspiration and Meridith, thank you so much for you warming welcomes (again).

Hope to chat a little later today. Have a great morning everyone.

Hi Ladies,

I am so tired today. I was wide awake half the night for no reason, I have never experienced insomnia before. Ohhhh maybe it's a pg symptom LOL. Shops going along well, lot's of nice cute little bits'n'pieces in here now. I just LOVE coming to work everyday, finally I have achieved the happiness I have searched for with working. Now I have set myself up so I can work and have a baby with me at the same time, it's time for it to be my month!!!


Shez - I am so sorry about your cousin, what a terrible time for your family. My thoughts are with you.

Mrs Mac - With you on seeing a Kinesioligist. The one I went to did wonders for me, really 'corrected' my body as they put it. Since seeing her I have never felt more healty. So glad something lovely has happened for you, been thinking of you hun.

Patient - Rose - Welcome!!! Hope you have a lovely girls weekend away.

Destiny - Welcome also!!! How did the ultrasound go?

Special Child - Well done on the wins!!! :crossfingers: this is your month because things do come in 3's.

Danni - I don't think I have said Hello & Welcome to you, so Hello & Welcome!!! How did the specialist go?

Hello to everyone else :smt039

xox

Hey girls,
I have booked myself in for the breast ultrasound next Tuesday 14th .........

will let you know the outcome (keeping positive:rolleyes: )

lil, Thank you, and Yes I am hoping that #3 will be pg related also.

Wishing you bol in your ttc journey.

will chat more soon.

Good avo to everyone.

Best of luck with you (.)(.) scan next week, Destiny. Will be thinking of you.

hello everyone, i am very new at all this. my friend may have mentioned that i might have a look at this site and that you may be able to help with some questions along my journey.

I am currently trying to concieve baby number 1. my husband and i have not had much luck in the past couple of years trying.

we have attempted ivf on one occation and found this to be a failure.

we have been asked if we would like to give it another go now that we have a little more money behind us but this time using the microinjection technique. I am not to sure as to exactly what the difference will make apart from them directly injecting my husbands sperm into my eggs and hopefully have a few more fertilize. I really am not to sure if this will make any difference in the success rate of being able to hold a pregancy,

has anyone under gone this process and what has there out come been.

I am also a little worried that if we do go down this avenue that our child will have some chance of abnormality, but i guess that is a very small price to pay, when all you want is to have a child of your own right.

I am sorry for the long winded story.

again thank you.


Tina

Hey there Tina,

I am so glad that you found the site ok.

I am sure that the girls in here will be able to help you in anyway they possibly can. And I am sure they will make you feel as welcome as I am.

Hope all goes well in anyway you turn.

love heaps.

Hi Tina,

Welcome to BB. I know the girls in here will be a great support to you!

ICSI (or microinjection) is quite safe. There seems to be some medical evidence that suggests that there is a very slightly higher rate of abnormalities in IVF children, but not necessarily ICSI children.

In part, some scientists have explained this slightly higher rate of abnormalisties by noting that many women using IVF have pre-existing genetic, fertility or egg quality problems to begin with. With this in mind, IVF women, as a cross-section, probably would have more children with abnormalities. I think, in context, the number of abnormalities in IVF children would be in the right ratio for the kinds of ferility issues IVF women have.

ICSI is an excellent tool to increase the rate of fertilisation, but doesn't increase the chances of falling pg unfortunately. However as it usually increases the amount of embryos you have at your disposal, it's probably easier on you, your body and your budget in the long run if you are having difficulties wiht natural fertilisation.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that for some women, ICSI is a godsend. And I wouldn't worry about abnormalities, to be honest, it's not that different from natural pgs! Plus, recently it was reported in the news that ICSI children have a higher average IQ than the general population!

Good luck with it all Tina and I hope you find success with your future cycles.

love
sushee

Hi Tina & welcome to BB \:D/

We used ICSI just last month & it worked wonders for us first go. I had 5 eggs collected at EPU, 3 were mature enough to fertilise & all fertilised beautifully. We fell pg with the first transfer :cheer:

I am so glad we went with ICSI, it increased our chances of getting fertilised eggs & technically we had a 100% fertilisation rate. We have 2 snowbubs in the freezer waiting for us in the future.

All the best with your up & coming cycle!

Hi Tina,
Welcome!
My daughter is a ICSI FET baby as she is perfect in every way (you can click on my www to see her :lol:) . We used ICSI due to husbands lowish motility, science is a wonderful tool and ICSI has been used for many years with great results. I find now talking to alot of woment that do IVF they under go ICSI. We felt that we were having so much done we would be better to do the icsi and hopefully have a better rate of fertilization.
Good luck
Bec

Bec - I was just admiring your gorgeous photos. If ever there was "poster baby" for ICSI she is it, you must be sooooo proud

Tina - Welcome to BB my DH and I have been recommended ICSI because he has low count, high abnormalities and low motility. I have also been worried about abnormailites etc but my gynea has been very reassuring about this not being the case. (I am a natural born worrier)

lil-chookie - glad to hear the business is going well and hope that your insomnia is the sign of something exciting to come. I know the suburb you are in and am planning on getting out that way when all my friends have their bubs, I am a terror when cashed up so will be your ideal customer!

It's fantastic to hear of everyone's success with ICSI, I am starting to get quite anxious to get on with it now that my appointment is so close and almost excited about it all, although I am sure once I have to go through the hormonal side of things the shine will wear off.

I hope everyone is well, stupid AF has arrived after a week of post lap bleeding, argh! And I have now calculated that I will be ovulating the weekend of my sisters wedding when we are staying at my parents on the fold out couch, it could be interesting 8-[ it's our last hoorah before we see the RS so we might have to book a romantic motel

Was trying to have a relaxed, recovery day today but poor puss cat is quite ill! For those of you that don't know, I am a vet. I have 4 furry babies of my own - 2 dogs and 2 cats. All have medical "issues" (typical vet's pets) except our newest addition -"Jordan"(a six mth old, healthy pup).
Our beloved Burmese "Wilbur" -whom I adopted after he was hit by a car 6-7 yrs ago, is diabetic and on twice daily insulin. Has had many other illnesses as well (cost us a small fortune even with me being a vet!) but he has been great recently. I stupidly dropped and smashed his insulin vial yesterday (blaming it on the anaesthetic) so had to beg the local chemist to sell me another so I didn't have to drive out to work (45mins away).
Well. must be the batch or the old vial was losing potency, because he collapsed this afternoon -low blood sugar. Had to take him up to my old work which is closer and get someone else to treat him -I'm not great with my own babies and didn't trust my skills after the surgery,. Luckily my old boss was there. He was aware of some of my recent dramas so was great to just take care of dear Wilbur. Will call and see how he is in a few hours. Geez, I'm going to be hopeless once we have a human baby!!

Welcome to all the new comers in the thread. I hope the people here are able to offer you some support and advice when you need it.

Jane I know what you mean about being excited. I'm really excited this time. You might feel nervous at first, but you soon get used to your daily injections and they just become a part of the routine. It's the TWW that is the hard part believe me!!

I'm still working on my own health in terms of diet and reflexology and I think it is really working. I feel really positive and hopefully it will work this time...NO It WILL work this time!!

ozziemum I too have had IVF with ICSi ( microinjection). All I can do is reiterate what the other girls have said. As you can see from the responses to your question, it is really common now, and a God send to those couples who have male factor infertility. It raises the chances of fertilization which is obviously the first hurdle. Personally I had 16 eggs that were used and 13 of those fertilized, so you see, you are in with a very goos chance of fertilization using ICSI. I wouldn't worry about it, but embrace it as something that is going to help you have a baby that will most probably be perfectly normal ie: cute, snotty nose, dirty nappies, back chat when old enough, healthy, a pain in the neck at times, but just what you wanted.

good luck with your journey

Hi all and welcome to all the newbies out there.....

I have been hiding under a rock, well no not quiet... family dramas to add to the rest of my life issues, my poor dad has just been diagnosed with myeloma, incurable cancer.... he is remaining strong and so our the family for his sake!!!

Hi Jane, I replied to your post in endo/pcos.... but just an add on.. I hope you are recovering well my sweet.... and I have 12 days off after the op, and I have heaps of annual leave if i need to take more....

I haven't really been doing much gals, in the TTC way as my op is on the 23rd Feb, no point in TTC as I really want that endo out. Jane how much endo did they find in there and what level was it?????

Best of luck for everyone out there in the 2ww or just starting IVF/AI etc.... will check in soon....

Must start studying, I am falling behind .....

love leis xx

Jane - Hope you are starting to feel better after the op. I had the same as you a few months ago, a week of post op bleeding and then AF straight away. It's not fair is it!!!

Meredith - I hope Wilbur is doing okay. My little fur baby cat Middy is unwell as the moment. She just keeps throwing up all the time, I think it is the extreme weather changes here. Cold to hot to cold. I am keeping a close eye on her as the moment being the overprotective mother I am!!!!!

Tina - Welcome, you will find lot's of lovely supportive ladies in here.

sararms - Love the positive attitude!!!

Hello to everyone else.

xox

Leis - I forgot to ask what level endo it was, there were three spots under my right ovary that were causing it to stick down, I also had it near my left ovary near/on? on the bowel and also behind my cervix. I know I used to have level IV years ago but I dont think it is as severe now. My gynea is one of the better surgeons in Melb and seems to get most of it out every time he operates so it takes longer to come back. I have been looking up your guy and he sounds brilliant, I used to go through ecca in Melb. Having the break from ttc while waiting for a lap is a real bummer isn't it.

Lil-chookie - I am feeling much better but over this bleeding, I am keeping Libra in business at the moment LOL


Meredith - how is Wilbur this morning, I hope he is on the mend, DH loved his name BTW.

DH had his second SA this morning so we get the results on Friday, they were lovely at the clinic. The girl looked up DH's previous results and told me things weren't too bad for us and we should have a good chance with IVF which I thought was nice of her.

I hope everyone else is going well.

Thanks Jane and lil-chookie for asking after Wilbur.
He is apparently much better this mornng -probably annoying everyone (he is a very social man and demands constant attention!). Will go and pick him up shortly - his girlfriend "Cleo"(our 3 legged puss) is missing him!
Am feeling better myself today too. Thankfully the chest/shoulder pain has finally passed. Just quite a bruised tender belly -bit unattractive!!
Hope everyone else is well. Jane and firemansgirl - I agree -this waiting thing really does suck. Particularly when you need AC -just can't do anything until the doc's say so. [-o< that HCG levels are down next week and we can get going soon.

Leis, I tried replying in the endo forum but it didn't like me. I forgot to mention in my post earlier, thank you for thinking of me, I am so sorry to hear about your Dad not being well. It is very hard when our parents get ill. I hope you are staying calm and strong waiting for your lap.

Sararms - I have been wondering how you have been going. Glad to hear that your health kick is going well. I am still on my eat less weigh less plan and I honestly think it is helping. I have had a normal cycle again this month (even after the lap) only 29 days again and there was evidence that I had ovulated when they did the lap, he showed me a picture which was kind of cool!! The aim is to get the weight down and help the PCOS along, I only have it quite mildly so diet has helped regulate things for me in the past. If only I could give up coffee I would be right.

Meredith - I love hearing about your cats, CLEO what another great name. I had to give my cat to my mum when we moved to Melbourne back in 2000 as we were in a tiny flat when we first moved here. I have a real soft spot for animals.

Sorry about the multiple posts, my computer is not being cooperative, could one of the mods please delete the last two, the same thing happened over in the endo forum, thanks heaps

Jane Glad to hear things are going well with you. Endo sounds like aright pain in the a**

Leis I'm very sorry to hear about your father, I hope you all manage to pull through it.

As for me AF is here alright!! Feeling rubbish, but good because it's not long now before the first jab. Ouch it hurts :fuming:

Bit quiet in here today! Everyone must be out enjoying the nice weather (well its nice in melbourne today).
Went to the Lion King this afternoon with my family. My dad and stepmum purchased tickets for all of us months ago which was lovely of them. Was a fabulous show -even DH enjoyed it and he is not big into theatre! Was it you Nola who went about a week ago too? Really, really amazing set/puppetry etc isn't it?
Only difficult part for me was the "family" thing. Don't get me wrong, I love my siblings and my (many) nephews/nieces but I had expected to be 13weeks pg at this event. Instead I felt a bit empty and lonely- staring at the loads of excited children. None of my family even really aknowledge our recent loss -guess they just don't know what to say.
Back to work again tomorrow - is time to start pushing my boss about wanting to go part time. Particularly if we will be TTC again in the coming weeks.
Leis -hope AF leaves soon and you can get a bit closer to that transfer

Thank you for all your support and kind words. I know it is so difficult trying to comfort someone going through what is a terrible time for them. Especially us all who are in the same boat even though we all deal with it in different ways. My way was hybernation in bed, reading, not going to work and taking time out for me.
One thing that keeps coming to me when I calm down and think about it is we cannot change things. There is no such things as accidents. Everything happens for a reason. My first attempt at IVF I cont. going to the gym, kept myself busy with work, tried to control my temper and outbursts due to the hormone injections and nervousness of what was to come. I tried to stay as sane as I could (which is a big big thing..lol). And I got hyperstimulation.
This time round I thought I'm going to stop the gym, slow down with work, do yoga, I gained weight, was happy and content. I felt fabulous! And then I got a negative. My point is... I tried to change things within my life and within myself and NOTHING change within my situation. I am still not pregnant.
So what gives? At the end of the day it is out of our control. I have no answers as to why. So I should stop beating myself over why me? Why can't I get pregnant? Why is this happening? Is it because of this or that? Is it because I was angry with my SIL for getting pregnant? (sorry, I am Ms Analyser) I analysis everything!
Sorry to have gone and on... you are all thinking cut it out starbright your stretching the friendship..lol..

I have one question though.... has anyone gone through another transfer the very next month after a neg? Thanks for reading! And welcome to all the new girls! xxx

Hi Starbright

It sounds like you are behaving perfectly normally to me. I was the same, first time round, i carried on as normal and the second took it really easy and as you can see, both times negative. My consultant said it basically comes down to luck. You can produce 5 embryos all looking exactly the same under the microscope and you get nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, baby!! He says 90% of IVF is chance. So you're right, there is nothing you can do at this stage except look after your self and get your body in the best possible shape ready for the next go, if you decide to go again. All the best

To answer you question I have had substantial gaps between my cycles. longer after the fresh cycle apparently to let the hormnes totally subside and the ovaries recover from the stimulation.

Sorry I don't have time for personals but Starbright to answer your question yup I did all the time.
My first Stim was a failure but had one embie put back in -
Then did another Stim and +.
After that I had 7 frozens and did all those and got a + on the last one of that batch.
With Eliza's Stim I had 4 consect months (inc Stim) she was my 3 FET all back to back months but only transfering 1 embie at a time. My doctor had always done it that way for me...unless I said finances were tight for Stims
Bec

Hi Everyone......

Sorry i haven't been on for a few days...have been busy busy busy. I didn't even get a chance to turn the computer on yesterday, which is a first in probably 12 months. Usually i sit here and post whilst having my breaky (which i'm doing now) and it stays on all day and i sneak on everytime i walk past, but the last few days i haven't even had a chance. Not to mention after we close the shop and i want to get on, DH decides he wants to play his cricket game and end up here for the next few hours......

I won't do any personals today, i've just be reading back the last few pages and so much is happening I just can't keep up. I must get back into my routine of breaky and BB, so that i can get on top of it all.....

I'm off to have a massage this arvo. My kineseologist suggested i have one to remove the toxins from my body. I'm a bit nervous coz i've never had one before as pressure on my back really hurts, but the kinesiologist says that it hurts so much because of the toxins and that I HAVE to have one. So i'm taking the plunge. I know you will all be saying...is this girl crazy. Massage is fantastic and so relaxing.....well I'll find out this arvo.

It is DH and my 3yr anniversary tomorrow (yes, we married on Valentines Day....this way he can't forget LOL) so we are hoping to go out for a nice dinner. A knew restaurant opened in town 2 weeks ago and one of my friends husband is the head chef (excellent cook), so we went to book in there, but they are closing (stupid thing to do in a small town), so not sure where we are going to go. I left that up to DH. No doubt he may even put me in the car and drive me over to Albury and take me to Maccas or KFC. Soooo something that he would do. But i love him, so that makes it okay.....

Wednesday i'm off to have the BETA. Don't think it will be positive, but will have to wait and see. Bleeding still happening (48 days now), so if it is neg, then hopefully they will put me in for a D&C to clear me out so we can start again.

Nothing else from me at this stage. Love to you all and fingers crossed for some BFP in here soon.

Hi everyone

Good to hear from you Shan, your Valentines day sounds like it will be romantic. I must confess, I am the one who forgot our anniversary last year, I booked a business trip that day and remembered it when I got to the airport, DH was quite amused.

Satrbright I hope you are feeling better, you weren't stretching the friendship, in fact the more you all write the more I find it easier to deal with the millions of emotions that I seem to have each day as I always know I am not alone, strange isn't it?

I had my first day at work post lap and it was awful. I have been bleeding really heavily with AF and had cramps. Then I found out my uni had wiped out all my advanced standing units from my previous attempt at a degree and the poor young guy I sit next to asked me if me uni course wasn't going well and I burst into tears and started sobbing LOL he will never ask me how I am again.

I think I need a lie down tonight. I am getting all stressed waiting for DH's second SA to come back, not that it will get worse, but it confirms it all and makes it final doesn't it. I guess uni getting mucked up will give me more time to concentrate on making a baby, but it was also my escape plan that I had going in the background if I dont ever get pg.

This is hard isn't it :cry:

thank you so much for you wonderullly warm welcome. I will try and get in here a little more over the next couple of days

Thank you to all who responded to my questions

Oh Jane!!

Yes I've had days like that, when everything just seems absolutely overwhelming. you just cry for ages without really knowing why you're crying. This Assisted Conception is massive. It's a massive massive thing that takes over everything, so of course you will have days when you just want to stop, cry, feel sorry for yourself, get your head around things. ONe way I used to pull myself up at times like that was to say, yes, this test (or whatever) just confirms the miserable situation I am in, but the sooner we get the good/bad result, the sooner these people can get me pregnant.

About the heavy bleeding, I have very heavy periods and used to get really miserable and low with it. I know you are bleeding for different reasons, but have you tried iron supplements. I take iron regularly and i find i don't suffer so bad when I bleed anymore.

I hope you are feeling better soon. go have a massage and a big peice of cake!! :hug:

As for me still cramping, still waiting for day 21 to start injecting!!! Boring I know

Hi guys just poppig in to say hello. Jane sorry you've been having a rough time :hug:
Starbright :hug: I know it sucks to feel kicked when your down, just remember we are all here for you.
Love to all

Hi Everyone,

I am back from my girls weekend. Lots of shopping, eating and we even had a win at the casino! Lots of fun except for a big drama on the last night when one of my friends who is 7 months pregnant with a very wanted child (4 years TTC and 1 miscarriage) and she woke up in the middle of the night with agonising pains in the her stomach. She thought she was going into labour and panicked big time. We took her to the hospital and thank God the baby is okay and she is not in premature labour, we were all so scared for her. Instead the doctor says she has a kidney infection. I rang her this afternoon and she is feeling much better, they have put her on antibiotics and she can go home tomorrow.

As for me, I've had a heavy, bloated, sore stomach all weekend. It kind of feels like I've done too many sit ups or something, and I seriously look pregnant, thank goodness preggas looking tops are trendy! Sometimes though it is really painful to take a deep breath and I often feel a little nauseas and just all round yukky. I think I may have been a little overstimulated, do these sound like the results of that to anyone else? I should probabaly ring my clinic but I have been eating and sleeping well so I didn't want to appear to melodramatic, but I am worried this isn't a good environment for my embies. Four days to go 'til all is revealed.

Rose - being a little 'overstimulated' is a sign of pregnancy - not that I want to get your hopes up falsely -so is bloating - Sushee can tell you all about it. It seems OHSS gets worse if you are pregnant.

As long as you don't have too much pain - the breathing difficulty you need to watch but if you are peeing and eating /drinking it should be okay but I would still give clinic a call.Goodness we pay them enough for a little reassurance and advice.

Don't worry about it not being a good environment - embies are usually okay safe and snug - its mum you need to take of.

Shez- thinking of you and your family's 2nd loss - hope you have some very good news for them in a few days.

Jane & Starbright - so sorry to hear you are going through too a difficult time too.

Nola - wonderful news from you =D>

Meredith - thinking of you - BB is a great place to be telling all our stories and sharing our worries. Hope the op sorts it all out

Leis- thinking of you and [-o< for your op in 10 days - positive vibes

Goodluck to all in tww


:heartbeat: Trish
"~♥~ DD Charlotte Rose 1/9/04 26wks ~♥~"