-
Hi Ladies
Hope everyone is well. I am still suffering from PMS...grrr... just want the silly witch to arrive and then I can start on clomid. I feel revolting and have had pms for nearly a week now, I have puffed up like a beach ball it's quite depressing.
Mrs Mac... how did the weekend go? hope you caught the egg
Meredith - fingers crossed that all your hard work will pay off this month, must be stressful travelling to and from work on top of everything else
Leis - how are you healing? Hope you are feeling better without the bag
Hope everyone is well
-
Hi Lovely Ladies,
It seems to have been very quiet in here, I think it might be time for me to come back. I was going to stay away for while but I changed my mind!! I am feeling really good & positive. Dh & I are taking a very relaxed approach to things. The last 2 weeks have been wonderful, we have really reconnected our relationship (not that we were that disconnected in the first place) and I have to say I have never loved that man more!! The no schedule for bding has been wonderful also ;)
Mrs Mac - How are things lovely? I see you were off to do some egg catching over the weekend, hope that went well ;)
Leis - Hope you have been healing nicely and all things are well.
Meredith - You have been a busy girl :crossfingers: for you. You are amazing for giving yourself injections. I just couldn't do it!!
Jane - Sorry your out for this month. I hope you enjoyed that big glass of wine, af has arrived and you have started your clomid. :hug:
Everyone else hope your well and I hope to see everyone else back in here soon. Well actually what I really hope is that your all not in here because you all have BFP's and you don't need to be here anymore!!!
xox
-
Hi everyone
Good to see you back lil-chookie, you're right it is really quiet in here
Well I am still waiting for AF and feel revolting. I am getting sick of waiting, I am cramping and have bb's the size of watermelons so I am not sure what is going on. I am definately not pg, had the blood test last week and did a HPT tonight, nothing brings on an overdue period like doing a HPT I always find. Hopefully it will arrive soon so I can start clomid.
I might post some more when I am not feeling so blah
Hope everyone is well
Cheers
-
Jano
I hope you are feeling better soon... I hope the old witch is kind to you and that your period is not painful...
Take care..
love leis xx
-
Hi ladies
It's good to see you arouns Jane and Lil Chookie. Jane I find that the old HPT brings on AF like nothing on Earth!!! I hope it isn't too bad for you. I too am in the throws of AF ahead of the stimulating stage of this cycle. But I'm not down about it because the stimmulating bit is where it gets exciting.
I hope the clomid works for you love. [-o<
-
Hey everyone. yes it is very quiet in here! I can finally get online as its my day off. Very long day yesterday with the furry patients so glad for a rest day.
Shan - Hope you caught that eggie over the weekend. How's the TWW going for you? I'm desperatey trying to think of thigs to do every day for the next 10 just so I dont; think about it too much IYKWIM! Hoping Clomid is all you need to fufill your dream. My last pg was a clomid/pregnyl cycle so yes it does work!
Jane -You poor thing, as if getting AF rather than being pg isn't bad enough, for her to keep you waiting, waiting is just horrid. Hope she arrives soon and you can get onto the clomid for a fresh try.
Lil_chookie - Glad to hear you sounding so positive and that you have such a great man in your life. As hard as it is, the TTC urge seems to be irrisistable so we just keep going back and back. I hope for you, that the "relaxed" approach does it for you and you carry that little one till its good and ready to meet the world.
Leis -how are you healing up? Hope the magic surgeon's work is paying off already. When is your bowel surgery again? -sorry have forgotten
Sarams -When do you start your FSH injections? Crossing everything that you get lots of follies and a positive result at the ened of all this ahrd work
Me -no much exciting happening. just waiting out the 2 weeks in anticipation. Had a prog test on Tues (2dpo) to see if I would need booster HCG injection (this is what is used to trigger ovulation but booster shots are sometimes used to improve CL function) My level was 43 which is great so no booster needed. Just one more test on Saturday. Still injecting, however, with the Clexane (aimed to help with implantation and poss reduce risk of another m/c). These are a bit painful and leaving little bruises so my belly is a bit spotty atm !! But, if it works, every stab will all be worth it
-
Thanks for all you kind thoughts, you gals always cheer me up when I am feeling down.
Sararms - The HPT did the trick.
Tested last night BFN so went to bed feeling grumpy, got up this morning still no AF so tested at 6.45am BFN no sign of AF, get to work at 8.15 and guess who else arrived? LOL seems to work every time for me. I tell you though I was just about beside myself with PMS, it just makes me so sick. My MIL once laughed about me having it and I almost lost the plot.
I am actually feeling much better and my period pain is under control for a change. I start the clomid on saturday and have checked my dates, if we conceive this month it will be a Christmas bub, what a present that would be.
I guess I should go and do some work, I am not feeling at all inspired today, although I have a heap of work to get through
Glad to see everyone back on chatting :grouphug:
-
Jane - A Christmas bub would be just lovely. I've just spoken to Santa and put an order in for all of us!! I hear you about the PMS - nasty nasty nasty.
Meredith - Hope the 2ww flys by for you and produces a BFP at the end. I may or may not be in the 2ww with you. No idea if I have O'd or not!! Feeling good I don't know too. I wish my life away too much when I do.
Sarams - Hi lovely, hope all is well.
Well it is a little wet & cold today. Last week my little shop was really starting to take off a little bit but now with it being school holidays & a little rainy it's gone all quiet again. It's okay, it gives me some computer time :)
-
Hi everyone!
Its been quite a while since I last posted here!
After our Second IVF failed I really needed a break from everything and there have been quite a few changes for me in that time!
I will be heading into our third cycle in the next week or two and wanted to ask your forgiveness and come back for the wondeful support I received the first two times!
Quick History for those who dont know me!
TTC # 1 for 9 years 4 months now!
8 rounds of injectables(1 pregnancy 1 miscarriage at 5 weeks)
4 natural pregnancies (4 miscarriages at 5 weeks)
1st cycle of IVF 3 eggs. 1 embryo..(pregnant and miscarriage at 5 weeks)
2nd cycle of IVF 8 eggs 2 embryos no success
It has been an okay break for me between the last IVF and I have also gotten myself a new job so this time I will be working full time while doing my cycle! I will also be doing a flare cycle and not a down regulation cycle like the first two!
Have to try and catch up with all the new things happening on here!!!
Cazz
-
welcome back Cazz :hug: and goodluck with flare cycle
:heartbeat: Trish
"~♥~ DD Charlotte Rose 1/9/04 26wks ~♥~"
Expecting IVF twins July 06
-
-
-
Welcome back Cazz.
You're sounding positive now - good luck.
My last cycle was a flare - I went off like a rocket after only 6 days of Puregon and ended up with a mad dash OPU, so be prepared!
Sue
-
Welcome back Cazz, a break does the world of good sometimes.
Wishing you the best.
-
Hey Cazz, honey! Glad to see you back - I just decided to show my face again around here too and like you are going for another cycle (FET) to start in about a week or so....
Fingers crossed we both get out of here and drag a whole stack more with us ;)
-
Hi Ladies
Cazz - welcome back
lil_chookie - hope Santa wrote that down
Meredith - how is the tww coming along??
Me, I started clomid this morning and have been waiting all day for some exciting side effects but nothing has happened, so it's been a bit of an anti-climax really LOL. I am ready for the bd fest to come, my pre-seed arrived so now it's like I am in a mini tww waiting for ovulation. I really must stop pinning so many hopes on clomid, I have completely put aside everything that the specialist said about giving it a go and hoping for a miracle, on the flip side I am nothing if not the eternal optimist. Also counting down the days for DH to see the andrologist this week.
Hope everyone is well and enjoying the weekend, good to see so many back on board and especially all the bellies on the avitors (is that how you spell it) it really perks me up!!
-
thanks for the welcome guys! Its great to be back! I hope though that its my last IVF cycle because its successful! and I am getting a christmas/new years baby/ies!!
Cazz
-
OKay a question!
What is the difference with a flare cycle compared to a down regulation cycle!
I know you dont do the pill part! is there any other differences?
What about the cost of it(Im at MIVF if anyone has any idea) does it change?
I havent responded very well on the down reg cycles. will a flare cycle be any different?
Cazz
-
Cazz
With a flare, you start your Lucrin/Synarel on CD1 and your FSH on CD2 or 3. It makes your cycle closer to the 'normal' 28 days - it happens a lot quicker than a 7 week down-reg!
For me I had Gonal-F on my down-reg cycle in August. Had 17 days of it before EPU. For my flare, I had Puregon and was ready for pick-up in no time. Mind you, I still only ended up with 3 eggs each time but I was 43 8-[
I'm not sure whether it was the cycle type or the FSH type or a combination of both but I much preferred Flare as it didn't drag out so long. I have heard of a few ladies who don't respond to GF. My doctor swore it made no difference but even admitted after I went off so quickly with the Flare he felt it was the Puregon.
The cost was no different at IVFA North.
I'm not sure what criteria clinics use to determine cycle protocol - I had a Flare because I asked - Sushee's last cycle was a flare.
I'm sure others out there know a lot more than I do - Sushee, get your backside front and centre please.
Good luck Cazz, can't hurt to try something different!
Sue
Edited 3 times to fix all the typos :oops:
-
Hi ladies
Well I have been taking Puregon since Thursday after 2 weeks of down regging, so so far am running according to the book, which is good. I've got a blood test tomorrow morning and they'll tell me to up my dose or not accordingly.
Suzi I was interested to see you have tried both Gonal F and Puregon. I was on Gonal F first of all and got a good response 18 eggs 16 fertilised but no positive, and this time the dochas put me on a slightly smaller dose of Puregon. What are your thoughts on the difference between the two. The nurses tell me that there is no difference but it seems that women have noted a definite difference.
Jane I really hope the clomid works for you.
Hello to Meredith, Lil chookie, Cazzoom and anyone else I've missed xx
-
Hi Sararms
Yes, my doctors and the nurses at the clinics all say that Puregon and GF are exactly the same, but I think different suppliers. I'm not sure whether it was the drugs or the protocol but I certainly responded a lot quicker with Puregon.
With GF I had 7 follies but only 3 eggs and ended up with only one 2 cell emby at ET which was 2 days after epu.
With Puregon I got 3 eggs from 3 follies - all at around 20mm (I was happy with that at my age). All fertilized but the third didn't make it past day 3 after epu.
So :smt102
I know there are a couple of ladies in here who said they didn't respond to GF but maybe the same goes for Puregon? I guess they're the same drug but they must react differently with our own body chemistry.
Stick with whatever works for you I say!
-
Yeah it's interesting! I had heard that Gonal F is a natural product made from hamsters and that Puregon is synthetic and therefore more stable which might account for the fact that a lot of women say they do better on it. Like you I don't know yet. Since this is the first time I have been on Puregon, I will only be able to compare after this cycle. Obviously if its a positive I'll think Puregon is the best thing in the world!!
thanks for your response anyway. I hope you are well as well, I've followed your story on BB xx
-
Hi Lovely Ladies,
We have gone all quiet in here again!!
Hope everyone is well :)
xox
-
It has gone quiet again, and I get stage fright when it gets like this 8-[
Well I had my last dose of clomid this morning for this month. Still haven't had many side effects. Been a bit teary at times, but then I am the sort of person who cries when life insurance advertisements come on the TV,so not sure if I can blame clomid or not. I also got my "discreet" package of pre-seed in the post so we are ready to go...again. DH is off to the andologist in the morning so at least we might get an idea of what can be done in terms of the swimmers.
Sararms - how did all of your blood tests go?
Meredith - are you stil tww-ing? hope you aren't slowly going around the twist
I hope everyone else is well.
BTW - I upgraded to platinum and I am very chuffed about my avatar, especially the hair, even DH thinks it looks like me.
-
Jane - OK, I can't stand it any longer, I've tried and tried to figure it out since I first saw you refer to it and I just have to ask....
What on earth is pre-seed?
8-[ :-k :oops:
-
LOL Suzi - pre-seed is "fertility friendly intimate moisturizer", and really expensive. I think it was $18 for a box of three applicators and basically they say one per BD :shock: . So hopefully things will be a tad more "comfortable" IYKWIM. Apparently the regular "intimate moisturisers" have a spermicidal effect, I asked my poor chemist all about it the other night and he looked as though he wanted to dart out of the shop on me.
-
:lol: :smt043 :chairfall:
My wicked mind kept conjuring up visions of wheatgrass and I was wondering how you would be using it...
#-o PRE Seed, now I get it...
-
Well I started my meds to bring on AF!
Should be here next wednesday ish! then the synarel on CD2 and the injections on CD3!!
wow its all happening so fast!!
Cazz
-
:cryinglaugh:
Suzi, the mind boogles, I am picturing DH's face if I pulled out one of those wheatgrass trays and a pair of scissors in the bedroom LOL not that anything would surprise him anymore
Cazz - goodluck, you must be just wanting get get started now
-
Sorry, can only manage a quickie right now as busy this week.
Jane -just wanted to wish you best of luck with the magic preseed and hopefully you will not need the IVF appt or anything to be "done" about DH's swimmers. I didn't have any ill effects from Clomid either although I know a few people who hated it.
Cazz -best of luck to you too. You have had a horrible TTC journey from the sounds of things and I hope this time around is much, much better.
Yes, I am stil in the TWW. 11dpo today and i am going crazy. very, very anxious that AF is going to rear her ugly head this weekend and that we will be back into treatment. Can't believe just how slowly this week is going but then part of me just doesn't want the time to pass in case of bad news. At last i still have a little bit of hope at present -IYKWIM!!
Why does it all have to be this hard!!
-
We had the appointment this morning for DH and he is thinking about having the procedure done for correcting varicoceles. I am a bit sh*t off about the whole thing as now we will have to wait to have that done, then wait four months to see if it works and there isn't much evidence to say how effective it actually is. The specialist then said if it doesn't help we would be looking at IVF in October. I honestly think I will go insane by October. Better go, I am tearing up and sitting in the middle of my office at work.
Bit of an edit now I have calmed down, DH is really positive about the whole thing and this way he feels as though he is doing something to help as he sees it as his fault so I am leaning towards supporting him on this one, although this whole process is starting to get to me a bit. :(
-
Meredith - Positive thinking, AF is NOT going to come and you are going to get the BFP you deserve!! Hope the days do not pass to slowly for you, I know exactly what you mean.
Jane - Positive thinking for you too lovely :hug: You are not going to have to wait until October for IVF because you will have your BFP long before then.
As for me, still don't know where I am at in cycle??!! So I can't drive myself to crazy this month. I have just changed my shop around and I am really tired (would kind of like to sneak out the back for a nap on the couch - but I can't!!). I put some photos on my photosite, check it out ladies and tell me what you think (you can get to it by clicking on the www under my profile).
xox
-
Hi girlies
Jano, stay strong honey, tell me about the waiting game mate, that is all i seem to do, operation operation operation operation... after the next one on the 17th of may that will have been 4 ops.... and by God am i over it... I often think how easy it would be to give up tomorrow on the whole TTC thingy, BUT i don't... I hope DH goes ok with the op if he plans to have it. The thing i have learnt from this stupid TTC rollercoaster is, go with your gut feeling.....Also i love your Av, you cheeky little thing with all your shopping bags!
Not much happening here ladies, but i have been working my a*se off. Off to see the colorectal surgeon on the 12th April in Bondi, and i am hoping he doesn't want me to have a colonoscopy before the op, as i couldn't stand another anaesthetic, they are starting to pee me off....
Well take care all and baby dust to all...
love and hugs
leis xx
-
Jane - I totally understand your frustration. Every day of waiting to do this or that is a trauma, let alone 6mths or so. People around me are telling us to have a few mths off or try next yr etc etc but they just don't get that feeling of urgency/desperation. I think it is good, however that your DH is so keen to try whatever it takes. Maybe the surgery will make a big difference and then you will be glad doing it sooner rather than later!
Best wishes to you both.
BTW - is there no chance of doing IVF round prior to surgery or sooner afterwards ? I know they can surgically "extract" sperm from the testicles.
Lil-chookie - thanks for the positive vibes - I need all I can get atm.
Leis - You are one strong woman to go through all you've have. I hope that when your child is born, they appreciate the massive effort!!
-
Pleased to announce I am feeling a tad better. I hate going to work after appointments, it is so hard to concentrate. I came home and had a beer of all things (there was no wine in the place). The deal with the surgery is that he will have it done but because sperm take 2-3 months to form it will take that long to see any improvement. He will get retested in about 3 months and then we will see if things have improved, if they haven't I will have my "That's it!!" moment and straight over to IVF.
Leis, I know all about being sick of ops, they suck. I will be a happy woman if I never have another laparoscopy, gosh if I have another it will be 10, I could just about do it myself if I wasn't out to it LOL
Meredith - you hit the nail on the head about that feeling of desperation, I had that all day. I am to the point where I can only talk to you guys because you are the only ones that get it. If I told my sister or Mum they would think nothing of waiting a few more months...and as for my pg friends I dont like to make them feel bad and they dont understand, it just gets awkward.
lil_chookie - thanks for the kind thoughts, I am going to go with positive vibes, and try to remain calm
I hope everyone else is going well
-
aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrhhhhhh Jano ... no doubt about it love you make me laugh... you are so funny. Do the lap by yourself... i love it. I am a theatre nurse and can't stand assisting in laps and watching the surgeons dig around with the trocars... ok won't say to much, don't want to freak you all out...
love leis xx
-
Hi ladies
HAve been stimming for 8 days now and had a scan nd blood test yesterday. 12 follicles!!! Was really pleased with that. I was a bit worried because I am on a lower dose than last time and thought I might not respond as well, but nothing to worry about so far.
Off to reflexology tonight to get the blood flowing to the uterus. I'm looking at egg collection around the middle of next week. All very exciting!
i know what you ladies mean when you speak of desperation. I feel that very much and even worse, envy and jealousy. An aquaintance rang me last night to tell me she is pregnant. 4 weeks. Of course you make all the right noises. But deep down I wanted to say, "yeah, you and everyone else totally unsuitable to be a mother, but I have been trying for years and nothing. So congratulations!!!". Obviously this would have been riddled in sarcasm which you can't convey here. She smokes and everything...so unfair. But I have a good feeling this time. I reckon I'm going to get lucky.
Jane I hope your DH surgery goes well for both of you. Have you got him on follic acid as well. If not, get him some it has been know to improve the quality of sperm between 25-75% All the best
-
Hi Girls......I know, I know, I know......you haven't seen me on for a while. I've been filling in for my mum and SIL in our Real Estate Office whilst they were at a conference on the Gold Coast, so havent been around to do any posting.
The TWW is nearly over for me. Thats the other reason i didn't jump on much. I was putting all my positive vibes into this cycle and was trying not to think about it too much. However, it got the better of me today and I had to jump in to say hello. I've missed you girls!!!
Well i had a BT on Monday to check my progesterone levels (i think that's what it was) and they came back 19.5. An improvement on my last one, so i took it as good news. They told me not to get too excited as they would have liked to have seen it higher, but i'll take it i think.
Wednesday was 10DPO and I started spotting really lightly and had a few really mild cramp like pains. Panicked and raced out and bought a HPT. Of course it came back neg and there i was waiting for AF to arrive.
Well so far she hasn't reared her ugly head and the spotting didn't last too long. Most of Wednesday, yesterday first thing in the morning and last thing at night, and a little bit this morning. It's sort of brownish/light light pink mixed in with a HEAP of CM (Sorry if TMI). This isn't normal for me when AF is coming, so not sure what it going on. If AF still hasn't arrived after Saturday night, then i'm going to do another test. The clinic also told me that if AF didn't come by monday morning, then they would also send me for a test. So now i'm resisting the urge IYKWIM.
I'll let you all know how i go. Lot's of love to you all and i'll get to some personals very soon. I promise.
-
good luck sara and mrs mac...
thinking of you both
leis xx
-
Mrs Mac - I am so glad to see you are back & okay. I have been worried about you. Hope all goes well & you get that BFP. I have everything crossed for you sweet.
sarams - hope they flow is going nicely to the uterus!! How exciting for your egg collection, I am glad you have got a feeling about this one. Go the power of positive thinking!!
Jane - Glad you are feeling better lovely.
As for me I have had some awful stomach pain today cramping across my middle & on my left side over my ovary. It is too early for af pain & way to late for ovulation pain (CD 26 I think) so now I am all panicky my problems are coming back. I haven't had mid cycle pain since before my last lap in Sept last year. But this isn't even like the pain I used to get at all??!! Errrrrrrrr this is just to frustrating, I will just try and put it out of my mind because I am not supposed to be thinking about ttc this month (as per DH orders) and I have been doing really well until the last couple of days!!!
