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Mrs Mac, i am doing really well thanks. Looks like i havent O'd just yet as my OPK is not indicating as such. So looks like i will continue DTD for a few more days yet. just in case.
How you doing?
Good morning to everyone, I trust that you will all have a great week end.
Skye - YAY for your 5 eggs (and surviving the process LOL). Keeping my toes crossed that they all fertilise.
Jane - I am so sorry to hear that your AF is so painful. What a dreadful thing to go through each month :hug:
Sarams - bummer that AF turned up :cry: Best of luck for your HSG on the 26th. They're not too bad ..
Mrs Mac - I hope your TWW goes quickly. Have you seen the TWW Activity List? It's pretty funny ;)
I'm on day 3 of Clomid today (my second round). It's a bit weird really ... AF only lasted for 1 1/2 days (I normally have short cycles, but usually 2-3 days), and my temps are all still really high. I'm wondering if this is a side effect of the Clomid, although it didn't seem to happen last cycle :-k
Shan, TWW is hard!! It's like wishing your life away. Earliest testing for me would be the 21st, that would make it a 30 cycle for me (last one was 31, 44 I think the one before & 26 the one before that). The last couple of days my boobs are huge, veiny & so sore. I have had strange twinges across my stomach, different to my usual pain and I have been really tired. So I am thinking we are in with a chance this month (as long as all these symptoms are not my imagination getting the better of me!!!). Been thinking about you too and have everything crossed for you :crossfingers:
Sarah xox
Good morning everyone!
I will have to go back & reread this thread so I can do personals but just thought I'd let you know that the scientist just rung & said 2 eggs weren't mature enough, but the other 3 have fertilised.
Hopefully they will begin to divide & I can have my transfer on Monday.
Thank you for your positive support. Hopefully our little guys do well overnight!
Skye xo
That's great to hear that some fertilised Skye - hope your 3 little guys stay strong and healthy.
Firstly Jen...welcome to the forum.. I hope your stay is short and sweet and you are over to the preggie forums soon.
Skye this is good news.. in reality you had a 100% fertilisation rate. If the other two weren't mature, then the 3 good ones came to the party... keep us updated on things ok and good luck for ET on monday..
I am well mrs mac and thanks for your thoughts..
love and hugs
leis xxx
skye - thats great news. =D> My fingers and toes are crossed for you. Good luck on Monday.
Inspiration - I had hot flushes on clomid (very yuckbo) but my temps were all over the place, although not high, which i though was wierd coz i thought that i was starting to melt from the inside. Wierd about AF being so short. Mine usually last for a few days only, but I had probably one day of normal bleeding, and have been spotting ever since (19 days now). The clinic said it was nothing to worry about, but i don't know. I'll guess we can only see what happens hey...
special child - I'm doing okay..thanks for asking! With your OPK, hang in there. I had an appt at the clinic on Monday and had a 25mm follicle, which they said would release any time, so they sent me packing with some OPK's and said to ring on Wednesday if all were neg, which they were. Anyway, they got me back in for another scan Wed arvo, and said the follie was now approx 29mm, but distorted, so looked like it was collapsing. So we missed the release on the OPK, but we know that we did. We had DTD throught these days anyway, so all should be fine. Hang in there.
Bye all
Hi Skye,
I hope you receive some excellent news with your fert report - remember, as everyone keeps saying, it's the quality. I only had 4 retreived and felt a bit down afterwards, worked out ok though.
I understand it's a difficult time having to wait for the news, I hope everything goes really well for you both!
Hi Shannon,
Thank you for your thoughts. How's everything going with you? I have my first u/s this Thursday morning, can't wait to see how everything's progressing. So far so good!
Hope everyone's doing ok. I'll have to post some more messages soon! Been a bit lazy 8-[
Cheers!
Didge
Still no AF. Im going to ring my OBGYN on Monday if its still a no show and ask what I should do.
Thanks for the welcomes - made me feel very special :D
In answer to your query Mrs Mac I am currently on day five of my cycle. This morning I gave myself my first Puregon injection in preparation for our first IUI attempt. I worked myself up so much I was shaking but I was pleasantly surprised - the injction was virtually painless - very happy :D
As I am pretty clueless when it comes to the forthcoming IUI I was just interested in finding out from anyone who has already been down this road whether or not your trigger shot/s were generally on day 14 or if it is possible for it to take longer to get to that stage,... sorry I probably didn't word that correctly but I hope someone gets what I mean
Thanks firemansgirl - I too hope my stay is short (and I hope that for each of you all too) but some days it seems so far away. I'm sure I'm not telling anyone anything new but I can swing from total positivity to extreme dejection in a matter of seconds - I think thats the bit I'm finding hardest to deal with - that's why I am glad I found here - I think being able to talk about these issues with people who are currently experiencing them will be so helpful - I only hope I can return the favour also.
I hope everyone is having a lovely and relaxing weekend
Jen
Hi Girls
I'm a nebie in this forum but I was a bit of a regular with Bin 123 in the clomid forum.
Well let me introduce myself, I'm Ronniem and my DH and I have had several unsuccessful IUI's and monitored clomid cycles. I am 25 and DH is 30 so we should be at peak time but that's the way the cookie crumbles I guess.
We went to see our spcialist last week and he suggested that we go with IVF.
My DH is quite eager to go with this choice but it's me that needs a little more convincing, so I hope you all don't mind if I come in and ask a few questions.
I look forward to chatting with you girls and hope that you all have wonderful luck with this new year.
Love Ronniem
Waves madly @ Ronniem :smt039 :smt039
How are you matey? I haven't been in the Clomid forum for a while now. Sorry to see you head over here, but glad you are all the same (hope that makes sense) :lol:
I am in the middle of my first IVF cycle at the moment!
I wish you all the best & look forward to catching up ;)
Skye
Hi everyone,
I'm very peeved at the moment as I'm two days out from egg collection, and have a nasty tooth abcess. I spent three hours in the dentists chair yesterday and am now on two different sorts of antibiotics and heaps of painkillers. Its a real nasty pain, and my face is now swollen.
After all that trying to keep a healthy lifestyle, good food, no alcohol etc, I now have to fill my body up with antibiotics. :rolleyes:
I'm off to do the trigger. Ec set for 11 on Monday.
Suzy
Hey Suzy...what a bummer :( ouch teeth problems hurt & are so $$$.
Hope you are feeling better soon!
Good luck with your EC, I should be going in to have my transfer done around then as well ;) will be thinking of you! Are you going to blast?
hi ladies.
Mrs Mac thanks for your concern, I really appreciate it. I'm sorry to hear that ovulation wasn't all that successfull for you this month. what is the next step for you?
Suzy and skyelar Good luck with your egg transfers. Ske i know this is your first time. I was so nervous the first time. At my clinic you have to have a full bladder. I was so desperate to pee after the transfer and the 20 minute wait, but I was terrified to go incase they fell out!!!!
As for me, this is the lowest I have ever felt to be truthful. Even after the two failed attempts at IVF, I was able to pick myself up and look forward, but for some reason I am stuck after this natural attempt. I'm in so much pain. I do usually get achey periods but this is something else! I think it confirms to me that at some point this month I was pregnant. That makes it even worse for me. Maybe there is something wrong with my endometrium. that just makes me worry even more. What if it is something awful that takes ages to put right!?
this all makes me think: all along we thought it was my husband that was preventing us getting pregnant, but if I was pregnant this month (and I'm sure I was), then ultimately, it's my fault I'm not pregnant now.
I've started taking Agnus Castus (vitex) in a hope to help organise my hormones ahead of our next attempt at IVF. I suffer from high prolactin when I'm stressed, so I'm sure it's through the roof right now. Taking vit B6 to combat that. I'm no longer drinking tea or coffee and am having royal jelly once a day. Chinese medicine says it helps boost fertility! Anyone with any more tips for me?? I need all the help I can get!!
Good luck to everyone else.
Daisy your details are all added to the front page.
Sararms - I am so sorry that you are feeling so low. I know it's hard not to, but blaming yourself when you lose a pregnancy is only going to make you feel awful and you don't know that it something your body did that made the pregnancy fail. Pregnancies fail for all sorts of reasons but it is easy for us as women to blame our selves in the absence of any other explanation. I hope that you and your DH take it easy and have some time to grive over this, it's a terrible blow. When I miscarried in '04 I had some time out from work and really took it easy and it did help. Good luck with your appointment at the end of the month and try not to be too hard on yourself :hug:
Good luck with your transfers Skye and Suzy
Mrs Mac - not long until Australia Day, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you
Leis - I am sorry about your news, I had a big lap a few years ago but not quite as big as yours is going to be and dont worry they give lots of morphine afterwards.
I hope everyone else is well.
Jen
Firstly Welcome!! In answer to your question,the trigger happens when everything looks ready. For some that is CD14 for some like me it is later. On average I had to stim for 16 days and I started CD 5 so it was CD21ish for me.
Good luck with the journey.
HTH
Thanks Jane..
I realise there is nothing I can do now, I just have to look forward, but it's hard to do when you're in so much pain isn't it. AF has never been this painful before. DH daren't even look at me!!! :fuming:
I really hope you get lucky this month. Thanks for the support :hug:
Well AF is still MIA but Im beyond caring now. If she isnt here by wednesday I am calling my OBGYN for something to bring her on. Ive decided to go on a holiday. I had organised a two week trip home to sydney to see family and friends end of nov/start of dec but with all the trouble with the baby my Dr banned me from flying so I had to get a credit. I feel I need to do it now rather than wait as I have a good friend who is due a little after I was, and I dont think I could handle seeing her heavily pregnant :cry: So if I disappear next week you know where I am :) 24th Jan-3rd Feb. Which means we will miss this next cycle which I guess is not a bad thing............
A big welcome to Jen & Ronniem. :cheer:
Suzy - that's a bummer about the abcess - here's hoping it's gone in no time. Lots of luck for Monday. :flower:
Sara - so sorry to hear things aren't going well. Take good care of yourself and sending lots of positive vibes your way. :hug:
Anna - hope you have a lovely relaxing time on your holiday. Lots of luck for your next cycle. :luck:
Skye - fingers crossed for you today. :crossfingers:
Didge - have fun on Thursday - hope the u/s is wonderful. :heartbeat:
Shan - here's hoping for a huge BFP for you soon. I know what you mean about this website and forum - I would be lost without it! :)
Jane - hope AF is being a bit nicer for you - thinking of you. :flower:
Nola - sending lots of positive wishes your way too. :wave:
Cherie - good luck with your cycle. Take care. :luck:
Sarah - have everything crossed for you for some good news. :crossfingers:
And good luck to everyone ttc this month. :pdust:
I'm just getting impatient waiting for my first appointment at Ballarat IVF which isn't until mid-Feb. (I had two failed IVF attempts with Albury in 2005). I know the Naturopath has said it will do me good to have a break for a couple of months while I'm trying to get healthy but I can't wait to have another go. I wonder how slow the next four weeks will go! LOL!
Take care,
Marg
HI guys
Well I had my appt this morning and all is go for FET. I am starting prognova today. The Dr has also started me on Metformin. I go back for a scan on tuesday 24th. I finally got to ask about the frosties and they are all 7-10 cells!! I am getting excited now!!
Love and luck to all!!
great news Sheza [-o< - your snowbubs sound top shelf
Marg - hope it goes quickly for you and that new clinic is just the ticket to ride baby express
Hi all!!
Shez those frosties sound great!!
Thinking of you today Suzy, hope you are resting up!
I am back from my egg transfer. The 3 eggs had divided into a 4, a 6 and an 8 cell. We aren't holding out much hope for the 4 cell one but we will pop 6 cell in the freezer! So I have an emby on board & making a list of things to keep my mind busy for this TWW :lol:
Skye congratulations with your embie on board - :bluestick: :pinkstick: to you - ask the moderators to update you with sticky vibes next to your name.
Thanks Trish, will do!
The clinic just called & that last egg got a wriggle on & is at 6 cells now as well, so yippee 2 in the freezer :cheer:
Congrats skye.. see honey I told you.. it is not quantity but quality!!!!
love and hugs
leis xx
HI everyone,
Skye - firemans girl is right, its quality that counts. Well done on your transfer. Glad you have some frosties.
Firemansgirl - you make me laugh with your extended family
Shezabelle - congrats on your frosties.
I had EC this morning and got 11. My abcess is a lot lot better, but now I'm paranoid that dh's sperm won't like my eggs as they "smell funny" - of the antibiotic or something. I know I"m mad and my dr said that an untreated tooth abcess is more likely to cause me not to get pg than the antibiotics.
Suzy
suzy,
I was routinely administered antibiotics prior to EC and always got good fertilisation rates, so don't worry, your eggs won't smell funny! Lol!
love
sushee
Congrats Skye - sending you lots of sticky vibes for your litte embie. I'm glad to hear you've got 2 waiting in the freezer too.
Shez - yay for your frosties \:D/
Suzy - I'm sure your eggs won't smell funny! Fingers and toes crossed you get good fertilisation rates with them.
Nothing new here ... just gearing myself up for a BD fest in a week or so's time (DH is already rubbing his hands together in glee LOL).
Evening all,
Thanks for the welcome MargOz :smt039
I’ve been happily (?) injecting myself for three days now and I have to say to all of you who are regulars to this routine – I admire your inner strength and resolve. Although I’m not experiencing any pain or sting from the Puregon injections, I can already see how emotionally draining this process is going to be – my heart tells me ‘how can this not work – for goodness sake you are giving yourself a needle everyday (something I would never have contemplated in my earlier years) of course it will work!’ However, my head says ‘steady on – this is early days yet’. I’d love to know how other people deal with the constant tunnel visioned thought process…It’s hard to think of much else other than the upcoming IUI.
shezabelle – thank you for answering my query – the information from our clinic seemed to suggest that everything would happen on certain days but I had a sneaking suspicion from my research that would not be the case – your input has helped me to understand the whole process a little more Good luck for your scan on the 24th :D
This website has already helped me so much so far so just wanted to say thanks everyone for sharing your experiences
Jen
Thanks Leis ;) you were right hon, quality over quantity! I am thrilled with my 100% fertilisation rate. Thanks for your faith in me (well my eggs but ykwim)
Suzy~good job on your pick up! I hope you get lots of nice embys to go back! What day transfer are you doing? One or two eggs? Geez I seem nosy don't I :oops:
Jen~well done on your injections. I still couldn't do them on my own :o I had to get DH or my friend to do them for me! What clinic are you going to?
Marg~ I will join you on the wait, you for your appt, me to POAS. This is going to be a long couple of weeks for us! I hope your new clinic brings you much success!
I am so paranoid but after he did the transfer I didn't even want to stand up. My Dr looked at me & said 'Go on, it won't fall out you know' :oops:
Hi all!!
Jen On the subject of tunnel vision, it's hard hard hard! As you can see, I have only had two goes at this. One being a frozen so I don't really count that one, and I can safely say that at time, I have come close to losing my mind. I know deep down that I am not one of these women who will battle on into the tens of attempts, I probably won't even make it 5 goes myself. I have to admire the resolve and inner strength of those who keep going and going. wqho knows when the right time to stop is. When is it the time to say, " I have to make a life for myself and my husband/partner for better or worse now". I so wich you good luck on your journey. Eventually I found that I didn't even think about the injections, I just did them until I was given an instruction to do something else. After ET, that's when I go mad. The TWW. Wondering if getting up to make a cup of tea will dislodge them and stop you getting pregnant. All of that is madness of course. I forget which lady it is worying about the antibiotics, that is a perfect example of what I mean. WE worry about simple things impeding our fertility and pregnancy success, but women get pregnant when they are addicted to heroine for Gods sake and they don't give a damn. We woryy about sex positions, when girls get pregnant standing up!! :soapbox:
(calm down) I believe you have to accept that as soon as you embark on this, there's going to be challenge after challenge, whether it is injections or TWW or whatever. Thankfully you can know that you aren't alone. Lots of couples go through this and make to the other side and god willing you will to with a baby in your arms [-o<
Skye I laughed when I read your post. I did the same thing, I refused to move off the table after transfer because I was so worried about my embryos falling out!!! Daft isn't it, but understandable. I can't give you any advice about the 2WW, because I'm do awful at it myself. However, I know that women who have relaxing reflexology and acupuncture do really well. Good luck
As for me still bleeding from hell and waiting to have HSG and to start on my journey again :cry:
Shez: great news about the frosties! Keeping my fingers crossed for you. :crossfingers:
Skye: that's wonderful that you've got 3 quality embies. Here's to the first one doing it's thing. :bluestick: Actually I remember not wanting to go to the loo for ages after my ET! Eventually I was busting so badly I had no choice! LOL! And I think one of the worst parts of AC is any kind of waiting!
Suzy: congrats on the 11 eggs and try not to worry about the antibiotics. Good luck. :flower:
Marg
Skye - Know what you mean about standing. You feel very strange, as if what the doctors saying can't possibly be true. My dr told me that the embryo is like a spec of sand in a jam sandwich (the sandwich is the uterus) on its side. That made me feel a lot better.
Sushee - thanks for that. What a comfort to know that.
Mrs Maloo - much of my time is spent trying not to get obsessed by treatment. I always thought I didn't want to be one of those women who's life was taken over by treatment, but its hard not to be. One of the good things for us is that hardly anyone knows, so with our friends, life goes on as normal
Thats all for me. Still find it difficult to keep up with people on this board.
Am waiting for that dreaded phone call.
Suzy
Sararms,
as someone who went through 8 cycles to finally fall pg, what I can say about it is when you start, you honestly don't think you'll be able to go that long. But with every cycle that fails, you look back at how much you've already invested, how much having a baby means to you, and how much more you can cope with, and you make your decision then whether to keep going. Trust me, it's as hard, if not harder, to give up your dreams of a baby as it is to keep going. Both take strength, and I honestly believe that anyone who TTC for years on end without success develops that strength whether they believe it of themselves or not.
I have heaps of admiration for the LTACers, the ones who've been on Assisted Conception for over 12 months. It's true that AC makes you focus so much on conceiving, The needles and the TWW and the ops all take over your life. I remember once I fell, it seemed like suddenly my life was so empty without all the IVF rituals! But rather than fight it (you can't anyway) accept it when you're in it, and enjoy any breaks you get in between. It's okay to obsess! We all do it!
love
sushee
Hey Sushee so true! When is enough, enough who knows? When the time for you is right I guess. I had someone ask me the other day if DH & I have set a limit on how long we will do IVF for. Really got me thinking ykwim.
Suzy~ I have been hanging out to see how your eggs are going. There is waiting everywhere you turn with AC isn't there :rolleyes:
Marg~ I am so glad you posted that because I was scared to go to the toilet after as well! I thought for sure it would just all come out :oops: I keep having to tell myself just to act normal, even if that means lugging a tantruming 2 yr old out after the Wiggles concert has ended :rolleyes:
Good luck with your IUI Jen! I [-o< you get that BFP first time around!
Skye,
out of our 11, one was imature and discarded, two fertilized abnormaly, four fertilized normally and the other four failed to fertilized. The % fertilized is considerably less than last time, but about the same as our first succesful IVF ( but then we had 24 eggs, and ten embies).
The clinic want to try and grow to blast stage. I'm quite a bit worried about that and having none left, but also feel that they are only in the business of making me pregnant and have no other ulterior motive. Each time we have done ivf before we have done blast culture. #1, we had three blasts and #2 we had one immature one.
I am terrified of having nothing to transfer. They told me this morning that they like to know which the "lead" embryo is, so that I have the best chance. We are still undecided whether to transfer two or one. I really don't want to have twins (mainly because of a history of quite severe PND with my ds), but equally I don't want to keep having IVF. Both dh and I would rather have twins than nothing.
Suzy
suzy,
if you're worried about not making it to transfer, it is well worth you calling your clinic and asking that you are kept in the loop re the progress of your embryos. If by Day 3, you don't have as many as you'd be comfortable with going to blast, see if you will be able to opt to have the best embryos transferred at that stage, perhaps with assisted hatching.
This way you get to transfer at least, and if they're going to make it, they'll just as likely make it inside your tum than in a petri dish. Plus the stress of worrying about whethr you're going to lose them all will be taken away.
Just a thought.
love
sushee
Oh Suzy I am so sorry you feel worried about your eggs. I guess by going to blast they are trying to give you the best of the bunch iykwim? I agree totally with Sushee though, if you are feeling uncomfortable about this call them. Maybe see what stage they are at by Day 3. If you have a good number dividing well you may feel better about it all.
The 1 vs 2 emby is a hard one huh! I desperately wanted to have 2 put back but my Dr was quite firm on only putting one back.
I am thinking of you hon. Please keep me up to date on how you are travelling :flower: