LTTTC Two Week Wait # 7

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Oh Tei :( :( :(

I am on my phone at the moment so cant type much but I am really, really sorry :(

Next time will be yours x

Please take care xxx

girls sorry to hear about the bfns, unfortunately theres no words to make it better big love to you girls xx

I am so so sorry to hear Happybaby and Teirae.

Thinking of you both :grouphug:

There are no words - :comfort:

xx

*sneaks in closing the door quietly*
Hi
Sorry HB and Tei. There are no words to make it better but I share your ache :cry: Such sad times

I'm coming in after my first transfer, after 6 years of trying (and trying... and trying) naturally. Apparently everything was beautiful- embryo, placement etc OHSS looks like being more mild than they thought...so fingers crossed. Transfer was yesterday and already it feels like it's taking forever. Sigh.
Welcome to the longest 2 wks of being excited and trying-hard-not-to-be-cause-I-don't-want-the-disappointment in my life.
Does anyone have ideas that actually work for helping this time slip by more quickly?

I'm so sorry girls :hug:

Josiejo - Lots and lots of sticky vibes!

AFM - Still vomiting, thought it had stopped but then it started again on Friday, started maxolon Saturday and AF started the same day. Dr still think's I might be UTD even though HPT's have been negative. Had some blood drawn today know for sure Wednesday but my money is on BPN.

TMS - fingers crossed for you - what a long wait for you until Wednesday - why does it take so long!! Sorry you're vomiting - that's awful - but really hope it's a good sign.

JosieJo - all the very best to you - sounds like everything went as well as you could hope so here's hoping there's good news in store for you. Don't think there's any magic bullet when it comes to surviving the 2WW - no matter your situation - it's hard. The best advice I can give is to try and keep busy. I always tend to put everything off and not do anything because I just feel like I can't think about/don't want to think about anything else but I think that's the worst thing you can do because the days drag on forever! Good luck with whatever works for you.

Best of luck 2WWers. I really hope there is some BFPs in here soon!!

xx HB

happybaby & Tei - I'm really sorry to read about your BFN's girls :hugs:. It is such a horrible feeling and I am thinking of you both.. Praying it will be both of your turns next xoxo

toomanyshoes - Gee hun, u poor thing... vomiting is so horrible! I hope you are feeling better soon and that your BT comes back with a nice big BFP! I have everything :crossfingers: for you. I can't believe you have to wait til tomorrow :shakehead:.

JosieJo - Yay for everything going so well for your transfer!!! Oh, the 2ww is torture when you know you have a fertilised emby on board :shakehead:! I hope you are not going too crazy!! Unfortunately, I think it is a little too late for me :wall:.

KMond - How are you going? I hope you are getting some positive signs :pray:! Thinking of you...

Anyway lots and lots of :pink-babydust: to all.


AFM - I totally caved and did a HPT (FRER) yesterday morning (approx. 8:00am) and it was a big fat BFN - arrrhhhh!!!! Couldn't have been more negative...... Was upset but told myself I would have to have been really, really, really lucky to get it 1st go. Anyway, I tried to not get too upset and moved on from the disappointment and got through the rest of the day ok.

Then of course later that night... I made the fatal error of scouring the www for any stories of + results after a BFN at 7dp5dt (I had a positive with DS on this day) and of course found a hundred cases in my favour while totally blatantly ignoring everything else that said the opposite to what I wanted to hear!! After all of this positive reinforcement (thank you www) I decided that I would take another FRER HPT and within 3 min the most faintest of faint pink lines appeared.... so faint that you had to look at it in a certain light to see it. Hubby confirmed it was there but agreed with me that it was just too faint to be anything :wall:. I'm really, really hoping and praying that it is just a really early + ....

If I can get the courage up I will test again tonight... was going to do it this morning but chickened out... why, oh, why did I POAS???? :doh:

Coral! I can't believe you didn't test this morning! You must have iron willpower. I'm chewing my nails for you!

Toomanyshoes- why did you have to wait till Wednesday?? Thats just cruel! So much good luck for you for tomorrow

Kmond- you're just hanging in there quietly. How's your sanity?

:pray: Oh Coral - I really really hope and pray for you that it is an early + Is your BT Wednesday? Do you have any pg symptoms?

AFM I am feeling absolutely no pg symptoms. I am hanging on for dear life trying to resist the urge to POAS because I know no matter the result I won't believe it and I'll be in complete turmoil (am anyway so may as well go ahead and do it I guess!).

But what is FRER? First Response........? Are they the most sensitive/best ones to get? I am going to try and hold off until Thursday - the day before my BT.

Everything crossed for you Coral and everyone else.

:stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesboy: to all

KMond & JosieJo - Thanks Ladies :hug:...

JosieJo - I just couldn't do it this morning... even though I really wanted to! I just don't want the bubble to burst :crossfingers: as I have the 'just maybe' going on in my head... I should know better than to POAS before BT as I did it with DS and I completely did my head in for 4 days thinking it was the Hcg from the trigger shot causing the BFP. How are you going? How many dpt are you? Hopefully time is going past quicker than you thought it would :).

KMond - I am the same... I couldn't feel any pregnancy symptoms at all which convinced me to just POAS and get it over with.... Ha, you are just like me and don't believe the result either! Ohhh, if you do test on Thursday, I'll be :pray:'ing that you get a nice 'SOLID' pink line!!!

Yep. FRER is a First Response Early Result test. They are supposed to be the most sensitive/best ones to get (I think anyway!). I'm due to test on Thursday so 2 more sleeps. I even rang the clinic yesterday morning and told them I got a - HPT and asked if I could come in earlier for my BT to confirm and stop having to use the pessaries. The receptionist said 'no' and explained that I could have a 'false negative' and that I need to wait until Thursday. I am so, so :pray:'ing she is right!!! When she said it to me I was thinking 'yeah, right as if.' Now, after the test last night I have a very, very small glimmer of hope but am so scared I will be shattered if I test again and it is not what I want to see :(.

Hi Lovely Ladies
Sorry to hear of the BFN's - :hug:

JosieJo ~ all the best for your 1st attempt - I hope you are one of the lucky ones and it works 1st go :crossfingers:

Coral ~ ohh hun, :pray: hope that line gets darker - certainly possible.

KMond, and TMS ~ :pray: for you ladies too! Hope to see some BFP's very soon :)

AFM ~ Im just in an everyday normal, natural TWW, hoping like crazy that we get a BFP again like last month, only that it will be stickier. Really dont know when AF would be due because of the chem pg last month and it appears I O'd very late - only a few days ago. So this cycle will be very interesting.

TMS - thinking of you and really hoping for a BFP for you tomorrow - hope you're doing okay

Loops12 - best wishes for you this month - wouldn't a natural BFP be a dream come true. The very best of luck!

Coral73 - are you testing again tonight???? I'm biting my fingernails for you.

JosieJo - another day down another day closer to that BT. Hope you're hanging in there.

xxxx

Hi everyone!

Its wednesday! I've transfered my waiting freaking out to you girls- I'll be thinking of you today TMS. Good luck and many cuddles.

Coral- I understand now why the no testing...I still couldn't wait. I'd be just like Kmond said- doubting and second guessing and doing my head in either way! The information that even if you get a (+)ve in your HPT there's the possibility of a chemical preg thing and then the blood test may be thrown off by hormones so might give false positives ...it does my head in! I need a definitive answer now dammit! Why can't a positive just be a positive?? It's killing me just thinking about having to wait for a scan to be sure (to be sure) -arrrgghhh!

Kmond- How you going with the holding off testing? Thanks for asking about the FRER. I had no idea either. I got a huge pack of 10mcg(?) ones off ebay so I can test pretty much every 15 minutes for the next 2 wks ;) How are you feeling?

Loops12- I agree a natural cycle BFP would be amazing. The best of good luck for you!

AFM...I'm not very good at finding other things to do...I've done a lot of looking online at little bubbles of embryos and various stages and going "nawww!". I've calculated when I'll be due if this works (something I'm pretty sure I shouldn't have done but couldn't resist) and I've been a crazy emotional psycho yelling at my dogs unnecessarily and crying over things like that cute video of the kid learning about gay relationships...Today I think I'll clean stuff! Obviously I'm having every symptom in the world and even though I know it's the crinone gel I still remain hopeful.

I transfered last Friday and it's only Wednesday so I have a whole week and a half to go! Sigh.

JossieJo – I know what you mean…. I am totally doing my head in – arrgghhh! Ha, ha, you sound just like me… I worked out when I would be due just after my ET! When is you BT date? Time is a killer during the 2ww… cleaning will help distract you for a few hours :). Is there a good movie you can settle down and watch this arvo? I love watching movies so I can just switch off for a couple of hours.

Ah, I hate analysing every symptom… so not fair that LP support and AF are so similar to pregnancy symptoms!! At least you 100% know for sure that you have a fertilised emby in there…. I am :pray:’ing for you that it is a really sticky one!

TMS – Good Luck today, hun! Thinking of you and will be stalking to hopefully hear some good news :hugs:

Kmond – Only 2 more sleeps till your BT – yay . Are you still going to POAS tomorrow? So scary to do…. I usually mull over it for hours and then get cranky and sick of thinking about it and just do it! Any symptoms yet? I still have none really… not really any cramping either.

Loops – Thanks Loops… I sure hope so! :hugs:.
Oh, I will have everything :crossfingers: for you to get another natural BFP! Do you usually have a long LP? I guess like you said, it will be hard to tell for you this month anyway… Praying you get a nice sticky little emby this month xx


AFM - Ok, I managed to build up the courage last night to do another POAS (I just got sick of thinking about it!) using a FRER and got a very faint 2nd line again :). It was still too faint for my liking but it was a little stronger than the line from yesterday's test :dance:.

I'm trying not to get too excited as I know there is still along way to go yet..... on a not so good note, I had some brown discharge last night and this morning (seemed to come out with the excess progesterone pessarie - sorry for the TMI). Bit scared as I thought I saw a tiny bit of red in it last night :(. Hopefully it is nothing but it is making me anxious :shakehead:.

I have my Beta tomorrow so I guess I will find out what is going on then... oh, please, please, please be a sticky little one and settle in for the next 9months :pray:!

Hi ladies

KMond ~ thanks hun, sure would be fantastic! Hope you're going well today - bring on the BFP for you!!

JosieJo ~ thank you. Remaining positive is the way to be. Hope time goes fast for you, :crossfingers:

Coral ~ thanks hun, hugs to you! Yes I do usually have long LP's my cycles are usually anywhere between 30-36days but with my m/c's it has tended to get up to 40+days so really hard to know what will happen this month. I hope the bit of blood is just implantation! :crossfingers: very tight still!

AFM ~ I too had some pink streaks yesterday arvo - hoping its implantation- then my temp this morning was 37.2 very high for the morning but that also could be due to still being a bit fluey, certainly not getting hopes up too much just yet. Although considering I believe I O'd only a few days ago it would be way to early for AF to be here. So yeh I'm quietly hopeful - perhaps its just our time at the moment. Just need one to eventually stick, :pray:

BFN for me, Dr confirmed it this morning.

Hope someone else has better luck soon :hug:

Ohh bugger TMS, very sorry ~ :hug: Hope you can have another try soon!

:comfort: Big hugs TMS - so sorry. Hoping that it won't be too long before you are able to try again.

DAMMMIT! If I hit "reply to thread" instead of "post quick reply" ONE more time!

*Deep breaths*

TMS I am so sad for you. I'm very sorry :(

Coral- I am also trying not to get too excited about your faint second line- that is very encouraging news. I'm hoping that the brown discharge is nothing to worry about. It could be too many innocuous things to worry about too much just yet.

My BT is next friday the 22nd- which as you know, is a small millennia away!

Loops- That does sound like interesting things are happening

TMS hugs again for you

Coral - buckets and buckets and buckets of luck for tomorrow - really hope that emby is burrowing in and you get what you are hoping for with your beta tomorrow.:crossfingers::goodluck:

JosieJo - it totally feels like a milennia doesn't it - hope you're not slowly going mad. Hang in there!

Loops12 - sounds like you've got some good vibes happening there - hope it continues and that it's implantation you're seeing.

AFM - I'm going to POAS tomorrow night. Can't bear to wait for the nurses to tell me I need to have a fair idea before they ring or I'll be a complete basket case. Is it okay to test at night rather than in the am? I just don't want to do one in the am as I don't want to test and then have my DH disappear off to work and leave me on my pat malone feeling either miserable or elated - hence why I want to test tomorrow evening. Can't wait to put myself out of the 2WW misery though - bring on tomorrow pm.

:stickyvibesgirl: 2ww'ers!!

Good Morning Ladies :hello:

Thank you all so much for you well wishes :hugs:... I don't know what I would do without your support.

Unfortunately, looks like things maybe over for me :(. I did a repeat FRER test last night and the line was so faint that I could hardly see it... so of course, I couldn't accept that and drove straight to Coles and bought a ClearBlue digital test. I waited the 3 minutes whilst the timer flashed and then of course 'NOT PREGNANT' appeard :shakehead:. Was pretty shattered to see it and I do not recommend buying these tests as to see those words in capitals was pretty horrible. I would much rather see no 2nd line! Bit annoyed with myself for getting mine and DH's hopes up :wall:.

Anyway, enough about me....

KMond - I am wishing you all the luck in the world and lots and lots :pink-babydust:! I tested at night with my DS and it was still clear as day so you can really do either.... most people believe that there is a higher concentration of Hcg in the morning because you haven't been to the loo overnight. If you are + it will appear at anytime of the day.... :fingerscrossed: for you! I wanna see one of us with a BFP!

JosieJo - Only 8 more sleeps to go... I feel for ya... time just drags in the 2ww! How long does your clinic make you wait for a BT after transfer? Do you plan on POAS'ing? :stickyvibesgirl: to you!

TMS - I am really sorry to hear you got a BFN hun :hugs:. Praying that you get it next time round and I hope you are feeling a bit better healthwise.

Loops12 - Oh Loops... that is a little bit exciting!! Pink cm is definitely a good sign and it seems to be at the right time for implantation - yay! Your temp is also looking good :)! I'll be saying little :pray:'s for you. Make sure you keep us posted (I think you maybe on a roll here!).

Hey Ladies,

Just thought I would update you.... I just heard from the clinic and unfortunately it is a chemical pregnancy. Hcg is only 8 at 15dpo... :shakehead:.

Have to retest on Saturday but it will only confirm what we already know and that it is not viable :cry:.

Feel very flat :( but am trying to be encouraged that 'something' at least happened.

Thanks for you support ladies and here are some extra :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:: stickyvibesgirl: for you all!

Oh no Coral! That's terrible news! Yes indeed it's good that 'something' happened. But still...sigh...hugs for you. I hope your snuggled up somewhere with something terribly unhealthy to console yourself with

Kmond good luck for tonight, I will be waiting to see how you go. I understand the need to want no surprises. Better to have a second to deal with it either way first- before you need to be chatty and nice and listen to further instructions

Thanks wonderful ladies

Coral ~ very sorry - these chem pregs are so frustrating - so close but just not close enough :hug: You have one miracle though so I reckon it wont be long until you have your second. All the best hun! xo

KMond ~ how did your test go, :pray:

JosieJO ~ hope you're hanging in there, continue to have everything crossed for you!

AFM ~ did POAS before and what would you know BFN :( of course it still could be too early. Also just had my hair permed - needed a pick up. Probably not the best when trying to get PG smelling all these chemicals but at the same time we can't let TTC stop everything else in our lives.

:grouphug: Coral - so sorry - and yes I also hope you're consoling yourself with something terribly unhealthy. Will you do another FET straight away? Big hugs. I totally agree with Loops - hang in there hun.

Loops12 - I think you're right it could be too early so don't give up yet. You're so right about TTC not stopping everything else in your life. I so need to get with that program for my next cycle. Sure you are looking gorgeous with your new perm - good for you.

JosieJo - really need to see some BFP's in here so fingers crossed the luck will be yours this month.

AFM sooo I POAS tonight and it's a BFN for me. No scintilla of a sign of a second line - nada! So feeling pretty flat and disappointed as despite not feeling any symptoms at all for the last 10 days I was convinced today that I was starting to feel a few things but just wishful thinking I think. Glad I did the POAS tonight at home with DH as I'm feeling pretty shizen. Hate the fact I've still got to go for that blood test in the morning.

Nooo! Kmond! That's very sad! I'm glad you checked first too. is that it? Is a negative on a HPT going to be a negative in the bloods or is there a tiny glimmer of hope?Goodness what a hard couple of days its been! Yes, getting up tomorrow for the test will be challenging. Perhaps you should go straight from the path lab to the supermarket just in case you need stuff on standby for the evening. Poor chicken!

Loops I'm thinking if implantation happened when we're hoping it happened, it would still be too soon for a HPT to test positive wouldn't it? I am the ever hopeful!
I bet your perm looks pretty too- and fully concur about not letting TTC stop everything- it's pretty much taken me the last 6 or 8 years to learn that...

Thanks JosieJo. Had my BT results today and it turns out I've had a chemical preganancy too - like Coral 73 - HCG is 9 at 15dpo.

So I have to keep taking the pessaries they tell me and go back for another BT on Monday - uuuggh.

So like Coral73 I am also encouraged by the fact that something happened. Close enough just not good enough though hey.

Anyway hope everyone is coping okay with their 2WW. Lots of babydust JosieJo and Loops12 - fingers crossed for you guys.

Hi all :)

Technically I am back in the 2WW. I am CD 17. Pretty sure I ovulated sometime over the past couple of days. BDing every night so if there is an egg to catch we have a shot. Highly, highly unlikely I would get UTD naturally but you have to be in it to win it I guess!! :lol:

Will probably start IVF again at the end of this cycle, although tossing up on whether to wait another cycle and lose a couple more kilos first?? Not sure if a couple of kilos will make much difference????

Anyway, as it is a natural cycle, it doesn't seem like I am TTC at all. Less angst that way so not all bad!

Fingers crossed we get some more BFPs in here really soon!

take care all x

Thanks very much ladies, I did read up afterwards and yes I think it was definitely to early to test.
My temp hasnt been high at all but I have had the odd cramp and chirn of nauseousness - so I am still remaining a little hopeful. Also been *cough* a little constipated and boos are getting sore now, although that could be AF coming. Have had extra CM too. Hard to know!!

KMond ~ sorry for your BFN hun, did the BT confirm? :hug: Hope you can have another go soon.

JosieJo and N2L ~ hope you're both well and surviving the TWW, :pray: for both of you and N2L - hope its a wonderful natural miracle, it can happen!!

:stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

JosieJo, KMond & Loops - Thanks Ladies :hug:

I am feeling ok bout it now... have been a little up and down but BT on Saturday confirmed chem preg and I stopped using the progesterone. Can feel AF coming so will ring clinic on Day 1 to start another FET cycle.

KMond - I am so sorry hun, for your BFN :hug:. I know how rotten it feels... I hope you are pampering yourself. Praying that we will both be successful next time round.

Loops - Way too early to POAS! I reckon so anyways.... I'll be lurking :hide: and keeping an eye on how things progress :). I'm thinking the pink CM is a GOOD sign. Sending you lots of :pink-babydust:.

N2L - Miracles do happen... sending you lots and lots of :stickyvibesboy: for you natural 2ww!

JosieJo - You can't be far from BT now?? I have everything :crossfingers: for you and I hope you start the long line of BFP's in here!

:goodluck: GOOD LUCK Ladies

Welcome back N2L! Fingers crossed for natural miracles for both you and Loops- wouldn't that rock??

Coral I'm glad you're feeling up to another round already. Who decides if you need to wait or not? Is it a mutual thing btwn you and your care providers?

AFM- Still going on. Symptoms are less now than last week. Trying not to feel sad about not being nauseous all the time ;) Still got sensitive smell, emotional and getting up all night to wee lol so best to think of the positives!

Good luck everyone

Hey JosieJo,

Not too long now until your BT - yay :)! I hope :pray: those symptoms are still hanging around for you and that it means good things to come!

My clinic asked me if I wanted to go straight into another cycle and I was more than happy to as with a natural FET it is so non-invasive:). I remember they made me wait a month after a failed stim though to give my body a break even though I would have liked to have tried again straight away!

Sending you lots and lots of :pink-babydust:!

Hi girls, i have just read all of the posts in this thread- i didnt know this thread was here! Just posted something similar in another forum but will transfer it here as i think its more relevant here. I too am amidst the ol tww at the mo- i had my ET 5 days ago and im having lots of cramping and the 'normal' cramping in the uterus that i get between ovulation and AF. Therefore there are no 'special' or 'abnormal' signs for me. Im naturally inclined to think that my lil 4-cell embryo has not stuck. Surely if it had, i would have different signs to what i normally get? Since having my lap 2 years ago i started getting pains and cramping between ovulation and AF, never had that before. And this same cramping is happening now just as it normally would every other month.....

So i have nothing to do but sit and wait another 10 days until the BT because i have absolutely no idea, my body is not telling me anything new. I havent been pregnant before, so ive got no idea what my body should be telling me. All i know is, at the moment, my body feels like it usually does before i get another disappointing AF.However i do feel that there is a bit more going on down there, but i have no idea what it is. Im trying to stay positive though and take it in my stride.......so im getting a mixture of mild to semi-severe cramping- what i normally get each cycle. Confusing!

I think Josie Jo your not too different from me timeline-wise- both waiting for the BT- mine is on the 28th. I have booked myself a holiday for 2 weeks, 2 weeks after the BT- so either way i have something else to look forward to......x

Hi bianeczka

Just popping in to say cramping throughout the two week wait is entirely normal following an egg transfer.
The post transfer medications all cause cramping.

Hoping that helps put your mind at ease.

Hi Nothing2lose,

Oh ok i didnt really know that, i am on Crinone at the mo so im assuming this may cause cramping too, but my cramping 'patterns' are the same as usual, i.e. cramping immediately after ovulation, slight cramping then nothing, then about a week or so before AF severe cramping during the night that wakes me up. I got this last night which made me think its all over red rover. I slightly slackened off with my normal activities today as i felt a bit disappointed- couldnt go to yoga even and i never miss yoga. However i should stand tall and strong and dont think about it really....thanking you

Hi B! Well done finding the thread- they can hide around here can't they? Spoiled for choice! I've had no cramping at all...now I feel like I'm missing out! ;) I've had heaps of other things to tide me over- most notably breasts so sore i can't lay on my tummy comfortably to get a massage- which is just plain cruel! And no yoga for you? How's a girl to relax?? Hopefully things will settle down (in a good way!) and you'll be able to go back to it.

We are at similar stages. My BT is this friday and I'm both dreading it and extremely anxious for it's arrival- just so I know if it worked or not. I'm trying to decide when to do a HPT cause I want to have an idea of what's going to happen on friday, but again, I don't want to know if it's no- I'd rather live in a world of make-believe. It's made it a loooong two weeks. I was talking to a friend and started crying and couldn't stop for ages the other night...sigh. I was doing such a good job of coping up until then too! I wonder if it's the crinone? Stupid emotional and teary side effects!

Coral I'm glad you're still around. I am excited to see how you go.

N2L, Loops- How're things?

Good luck lovies!

Hi Ladies
Bianeczka ~ welcome. Advise I can give is try not to worry about symptoms too much they'll only make you crazy and the stress is probably not good. It could go either way - the cramps could be just the pre-tranfer and Crinone or FX'd could also be implantation cramps. AF and PG sysmptoms are too similar and so thats why its better to try and ignore them. hope tha helps :goodluck:

AFM ladies ~ BFN this month. AF starting and neg test. thanks for all your support and wishing you all BFP's!!

Hi everyone,

Thought i would pop in and join this thread as i am on my 2ww from my very first ivf. I am 5dp2dt and have to wait until the 30th july for my beta. I thought this might be a good way to pass the time by chatting to you lovely girls. Heres hoping we all get our BFP very soon...