LTTTC Two Week Wait - November 08

Hello all,
Just droped in quickly to catch up on all the news and wish everyone well.

TLO - I know how you fell, but really wishing :noaf:, progesterone is horrible stuff so I hope that while it is messing with your mind and body, it is keeping your embie nice and happy.

Wishingbaby - hope that those are all positive pg signs for you and that your BFP is not far away!

MissMagpie - good luck with the natural attempt, and sorry that this cycle was a bummer for you.


Wouldloveabubba & mollygirl - good luck and wishing you a wonderful BFP for xmas.

WTH - :hug: I'm sorry at your BFN, I really hope that you can move ahead and try something a little different to get your BFP!

To anyone that I've missed, sorry, but hope that your TWW is not sending you too far up the wall and sending lots of :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

AFM - well not much to report. Not sure what is progesterone pessiaries and what is AF. Was in a book store yesterday and was very tempted to buy a beautiful pregnancy diary and a grandparents diary on the off chance we were going to get our BFP - but realisim took over and I put them both back on the shelf...not sure if I should have to be optomistic! Really think that AF is coming, but really hope that it is not...but find myself ready to go to tears if anything goes wrong and that is always a good PMS sign.

Oh well, BT is 6 days away so I'll just have to keep waiting.

Good luck to everyone here.
FG

Hi all,

Just thought I pop in to wish you all luck.

Special thoughts to you KellyD. Have been wondering how the BT went yesterday.... hopefully it is what you want.

farmgirl...hang in there...fingers crossed...I have walked into many shops and picked up baby related items then put them back down!

Kellyd- how are you?? BT OK...been wondering also

good luck everyone else...hoping for those xmas BFPs

Hi Ladies

Sorry no personals from me. My head is not in a good space at the moment.

I was rushed to hospital on Monday with a suspected ectopic pregnancy as been having severe cramping with light spotting. A BT was done on Monday and the HCG was 222 (so good increase from Saturday's 46). FS did a lap and found the tubes to be fine and that my uterus was swollen, like a pregnant belly should be so was looking good except for the pain from surgery.

Started heavier bleeding when I got home from hospital yesterday and had a follow up BT today to see if everything was still o.k, but got the bad news that the level was now done to 44, so we have lost this/these one/s as well. I'm feeling really shattered now as the FS seems to think that my uterus doesn't response well to pregnancy hormones and forces the miscarriages to happen. I have a post operative appt with him next week to hopefully get a better idea of where to next, but due to the surgery nothing will happen for at least a couple of months at best.

I think I need to take some time out now and try not to think about all this baby stuff. I hope all the other TWW'ers get the results they are hoping for as Xmas presents. Hopefully I'll be back stronger than ever in the new year.

Kelly D - that is terrible hun. I am so sorry to hear this news :hug:. I hope your FS can help you with the answers you need... Take all the time you need, sometimes a break can be good.

Rach xx

KellyD - Im so sorry to hear your news. Time out away from it all sounds like a good idea. The whole experience is very traumatic.

Take care of yourself and am thinking you.

Tania

KellyD - I'm so sorry - I hope you get some answers and take all the time you need to recover mentally & physically. 2008 has been such a hard year for so many of us.

Fingers crossed for all the other TWW-ers - I hope you get a BFP!

Does anyone know if its possible to feel the dull ache feeling that i usually associate with AF during the TWW, and still get a BFP

Hey Mollygirl - I think Farmgirl and myself are going through the same thing. I really feel like my AF is coming with this feeling in my stomach but nothing has shown up yet. If anyone has an answer - I'd like to know too?

Farmgirl - you're a day after me. Let's hope next week is a good one and the progesterone is doing its thing.

KellyD - I can certainly undestand if you don't visit this page for awhile but I'm certainly thinking of you and wishing you well. You must be exhausted - so please look after yourself and let the people around you help as much as possible.

Must go - I woke up at 4am this morning with what I thought was AF pain and ended up taking our puppy for a walk! Still no AF - hopefully it's something implanting, but I can't shake the feeling that it's not our turn this cycle. I'm tired - so it's off to bed for me.

Look after yourself ladies! This is a tough, tough gig!

Hi Mollygirl, TLO and FG...

When I fell PG in Feb I was quite certain AF was on her way. I also had cramps, for me they were quite sharp at times, but felt similar to AF for sure. This occured in the second week of the TWW and especially leading up to normal AF time. As it happened I did get a BFP. So YES, it is definately possible... Wishing you all the best!

Rach xx

Hello all,

KellyD :hug: - what a rough journey you have been on, and for it all to end like this is devestating. I hope that you are able to grieve and then recharge for a succesful year in 2009. I really hope that you are able to get some answers from your FS - dont be afraid to push them for info so you can work out what is going wrong and fix it. Wishing you all the best.

Mollygirl and TLO - my body is doing my head in a the moment, so I totally understand where you are both at :wall:. 3 days after this transfer i got a sharp indigestion type pain just under my left rib - the same pain I had two days before our last BT which we had a chem preg. Since then I've been getting indigestion type pains, some sharp, some not, but as well I've had signs of my normal PMS (poor DH - he still cops it!). My BB are not really sore or tender but my lower back is sore (could also just be the 1000km I've done in a car these past few days)...so who knows what is going on, and what is side effects and what is AF or pg!

Hope everyone is doing ok.
FG

FG - Reading your post - is exactly what I'm going through! We both had our FET on the 24/11 too. I'm doing bloods on the 8/12 and I've just learned my DH is going to be away for the whole week. He wants me to POAS before he goes but that just messes with me too much. Last time it was positive and bt was negative.

Thanks Rach for your comments - who knows, we might get lucky! :crossfingers:

To everyone else, I hope you are all taking care.

It has finally happened - the TWW has turned me into a crazy women!!!!!!!!!

:wall::wall::wall:

Hope everyone is fairing a little better than me!

Rach xx

KellyD, I feel so sad for you... cried when I read your post.. it seems god has decided to put an extra hurdle on your path. So unfair! Take care of yourself.

:hello: all your lovely ladies....just want to say 'hi' and I truely hope there will be a lots of BFPs in the coming weeks....

Big :hug: to Kelly D, I am so sorry you have to go through this, a break can be good for you and can also form the strategy for the next step. All the best hun...

Rach, you are still beautiful even you turn into a TWW crazy woman, hehe....

I can't wait to join you all next week, bring on the craziness....with all your lovely ladies, this craziness can be fun too! :D

Hey everyone

KellyD I am so sorry for your loss sending lots of :hug::hug:

TLO Hope AF has stayed away for you

FG Goodluck with upcoming BT

Rach81 Hang in there it will be over before you know it

Mollygirl Hope you are handling TWW ok

Cuddlepie Hope to see you in here next week

AFM Well AF is due tomorrow so I have locked all my doors and windows and put a sign up that she is so not welcomed. If she takes any notice and stays away then I will POAS, I have been so temped to do that already but I don't want to do it too early and be dissapointed by the results, DP and I are going to Canberra to do christmas shopping tomorrow so that should keep my mind off it I hope, I have been cleaning my house from top to bottom today in an attempt to keep from thinking about it. Sending out lots of positive thoughts to all the ladies going crazy in here with me.

rach: glad i am not the only crazy one when it comes to the tww. and i am not in there at the moment but it sure does my head in. good luck to you

tania: hugfs to you, so sorry BFN. xxoo

wishingbaby: hope you not insane too ? like me (joking about us). it's a good idea to keep busy. stay away AF, we don't like you. good luck

tlo: vent away. good luck to you too

fg: count down to testing, it's so hard the TWW, try to be good to yourself. hoping for a BFP.
what a lovely xmas pressie.

kelly: so sorry for you. senfing you some special hugs and kisses. xxoo

mollygirl: hope you get some good news soon.

cuddlepie: i'll be joining you in here next week too. good luck tfer

afm: had 2nd scan today all is well, 17 follie. and prob ov over weekend and FET early next week. i am feeling really good, maybe have something to do with drugs i had at dentist when they took out wisdom tooth today (OUCH). or maybe not
anyway i had a great time with my sis and am all set now for another FET.
also i will get the bt on my birthday, thats a sign. my little baaby girl. i hope will be here to meet me in 9 months time.

fingers crossed

Just a quick "hi" to all you TWW-ers...I'm sending sticky vibes to you all...hope to see some BFPs before year end...and to those of you who got the awful BFN news, I'm so sorry and hope to be joining you in mid-Jan for yet another TWW.

You guys are great. At least we can share in the crazyness!

CP - you even have the same mood as me???? can't wait for you to PUPO!!!

JBM - keep up the great attitude hun - it is catching!;)

wishingbaby - glad to hear you have taken necessary precautions to keep the witch at bay!!! :noaf:!!! Goodluck hun!

FG - thanks for your note in my blog - it kept ringing in my head 'let your body and embies do what that have to do'! You are gorgeous!

TLO - I started to get some cramps today too! Here is hoping they are the good kind! :pray:

Mollygirl - goodluck too hun.

Sorry if I missed you :grouphug: to everyone... Bring on those BFP's Girls!!!!

Rach xx

Hi guys,

I did something I never do - and I stayed at home and semi-worked from home today. I just needed some more me time and I couldn't deal with my team's issues today. I'm being very selfish - but I just don't feel like being nice and patient with them all.:wall:

So Rach - I completely understand your crazy stage. I can't believe some of the things going through my head at the moment. I believe that the cramps are a good thing. I can feel it particularly in one spot.

Cuddlepie - Good luck with your cycle and you joining us next week.

Wishingbaby - So far, so good - no AF to report. I laughed when I read your post about cleaning your house cos I just spent 3 hours cleaning out my walk in pantry. Now who does that? I've put everything into large containers, sectioned them and even written an inventory for each section.
See Rach - told you I was crazy!!!:dunno:

JBM - 17 Follies!!! Excellent! And what a good sign for it to happen on your birthday. I'm the youngest girl with 4 older brothers so I know what having a girl meant to my Mum. Growing up was so much fun around all those boys (although sometimes it drove me insane - but I loved it!) - Fingers crossed for you!

Burleij - Thanks for your positive thoughts.

BFP - HERE WE COME!!!!!:bfp::cheer:

Rach - I know what you mean about going 'crazy' and there's just nothing you can do about it but ride it out

Cuddlepie - Hope all goes well and good luck for when you join the TWW

Wishing baby - I have my:crossfingers: that AF does as she is told and stays far far away

JBM - Good luck with your FET next week!

AFM - well i have had the day from hell. Woke up with the most overwhelming dizziness and lightheadness that lasted all morning (lovely Crinone side effect) then i turned into a crazy psycho b**** from hell snapping at everyone at work, then came home and DH copped it and all because i have had a dull aching AF like pain for the last 2 days and am struggling to stay positive. AAAAHHHHH !!!!!!!!!! Sincerely hope i can get out of bed on the right side tomorrow

Popping in to say hi and spread some cheer :bluecheer::cheer:


I could do with some cheering on - so I thought you girls would love some too

Well, guess its time for me to move on in here for the next 1.5 weeks.
I have just had my first IVF/PGD cycle ( have had many, many OI/IUI's previously). 14embies with 9 testing "normal" with PGD. Of those 9, 5 grew on after biopsy and 3 looking "great".
Had a day4 ET yesterday so hoping bubbas are getting settled for the long haul. Will find out tomorrow if we have any frosties.
BT due on 15/12
May take me few days to get up to speed for personals so forgive me for being slack tonight

just a quick update. i don't have 17 follies, i have one. this is a frozen transfer. sorry for the confusion.

i can't get preg naturally as dh swimmers are trapped forever after a vasectamy.

anyway i've got 2 frostie bubs left in the freezer. please please be my baby frosties.

still got my fingers crossed. this is it.

Apologies now for the longest reply ever...

Kasam and WTH- if you are still lurking, just wanted to send you some love. Hope you are both doing okay after a disappointing cycle. Drop in and let us know how you are,,, if you are up to it. oxox

Wishingbaby- hello and good luck... hope AF does NOT arrive either today or for the next 8 months. ox

KellyD- I'm so sorry for what you've gone through. What a traumatic time, take care of yourself. You are in my thoughts. :hug:

TLO - Relaxing is a good idea. Good luck for your BT. thank you for your wishes.

MissMagpie - Thank you for your thoughts, good luck with your natural attempt! at least its heaps more fun that jabbign yourself with needles! lol.

Rach 81 - hang in there lovely. It's so hard to not "symptom spot'' yet sssoooo confusing with the drugs etc. I did some deep breathing and put some quiet music on and this helped settle my mind. good luck. thank you for sending love my way with my bfn.

JBM - I'm so happy you are well and good luck next week. also thank you for the thoughts.

wouldloveabubba - thank you for your wishes/condolences. I have my fingers crossed for you. good luck.

MollyGirl - I didn't get my AF to get a bfn but i also didn't really feel AF coming on. I hope you are feeling much better today. Selfishness is allowed. ox

FG - hang in there lady. but i must admit it did the same thing in the book store, nealy bought 'what to expect...' but am SO glad i didn't. I am praying this is your time.

MeredithD - good luck with the frosties...

Megsmum = hope you are well and taking care of yourself. thank you for the love.

Possusm, Buliej, BecD, Wishing Baby = thank you all so much for sending me your thougths and wishes.

afm: sorry i've been off line all week. just coping with stuff IKYKWIM.
well AF arrived last night with a vengence. unfortunately i used crinone gel so it is quite a horrifying thing. Suppose to go to my work xmas dinner tonight but really, really , really would rather be at home bleeding quietly.
Other than that trauama, DH and I are fairing up well. We feel frustration and disappointment more than anything else. We only have the one frostie so are not hopeful, not counting on, that one to be our answer.
So I'm expecting to start another cycle in January, fingers crossed they'll up my dosage and we'll get a few more frosties this time.
Just want to wish all you ladies a great Christmas, whether or not your dreams come true, and let's have 2009 as a better year for us all? I'll be lurking and contributing where I can. Thank you all so much for your support, it's meant so much to me.
oxoxo

Morning all,

Hayley - :hug: I'm so sorry that this was not your time, especially at this time of year, it just makes it doubly hard. Maybe the remaining frostie will be the one...:crossfingers:

JBM - wishing you all the best for your transfer and TWW...here's hopeing its the one. best of luck!

MeredithD - welcome once again to the wonderful TWW...that sounds like a great result for your embies, and hope that those on board are snuggling in well, also hope you get some frosties.

mollygirl - :hug: sounds like you had a crap day and just need a big hug! with crinone who knows what is AF and what is pg and what is just stupid drugs...stay positive, it's not over yet, not by a long shot!

TLO - what a great idea staying home, sounds like you needed some time out, and that is not being selfish at all! hang in there - not long to go now...

rach - hope that you are regaining a little sanity...lets hope that embies and body are meeting to become one for the next 9 months!

wouldloveababba - :grouphug: for thinking of all of us when you have having such a hard time...thanks

AFM - I had acupuncture last night which i love but was dredding as the needles always hurt a bit more in the lead up to AF - but last night was inconclusive as a couple hurt a bit more than usual, but then others did not...so who knows. I'm quietly optimistic, but dont want to get too excited as I dont know what the side effects could be from the asprin/heparin. But although I've got pains, they are not really AF, more digging/stabbing pains under my ribs - but then again they seem too high to be anything related to my embies snuggling in and making them selves at home. BB get tingaly and then it goes, no soreness so that is no help either, but on the up side not really getting my PMS 'anger at DH' feelings.... who knows what it all means - prob nothing! :wall:

AF is due Sun, so migh POAS then. For me the progesteron pessiaries keep AF away so that is no indicator. BT is tuesday, which I"m going to take off for the first time as I know I will fall to pieces if it is a BFN.

Wishing everyone here :bluedust: and :stickyvibesgirl:
Good luck!
FG

Farmgirl - I'm not sure if it was due to the same thing, but a work colleague of mine had had 4 m/c's when the testing finally worked out that she would need to take asprin post conception. The first time she conceived again after that treatment plan was put in place she carried the baby to full term. They are both happy and healthy and she has gone on to have 2 more. This was a couple of years ago now, but sometimes it can be the smallest thing that can fix all our woes.

I just wanted to pass on a story of hope and happiness and wishing you all the best for Sunday.

just popping in to wish all the luk in the world with getting your bfp;)

Hi Girls

A bit of a rant about me .. sorry

Im not feeling the love in regard to my uterus, it's cramping and I have that distinct feeling AF is on her way, due Monday !!! I have he worst PMS - so I rang my clinic and my FS is back early Jan, I am starting a Stim Cycle this time, as opposed to my antagonist in Oct/Nov - so if AF behaves and stays on day 28's - I should be back sniffing and injecting in the new year - oh am I going to have a champagne or 2 on NYE !!

Sorry for the winge, just needed to vent ....

Hey wouldloveabubba - I hope you are wrong and they are the good cramps. :hug: TWW sucks and it is so hard to interpret what your body is doing! Goodluck hun!

FG - YAY on the AP. I hope your feeling is right - even though I know it is scarey to actually contemplate a BFP. I think having the day off is a good idea for some you time regardless of the outcome! Which by the way I hope hope hope hope hope hope is positive!

grub11 - sounds like 2009 is going to be a great year for you hun. I am so over 2008!!! Ready for a fresh start - like so many other girls I think! :hug:

MeredithD - goodluck with the TWW!

TLO - good on you for staying home..... you have been through a lot ... give yourself a break! I am sure you'll be better at work when you return! ;)

Go JBM!!!! :stickyvibesgirl:

AFM - getting there..... ever so slowly! I have been having weird cramping/sensations in my uterus. Hard to tell if its AF - due next Wednesday?????? or something a little more miraculous! Here is hoping for the latter! Still have massive/sore BBs.

Rach xx

I know that I'm bad, evil, jumping the gun...but after feeling not so good today at work, I just POAS and got a :bfp:!

Told DH who automatically went into emotion control...will not belive it till we get the BT, and besides there is a good chance it could be another chem or we lose it early...but two lines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG i might be having a baby (or two ;))

I have to keep looking at it to make sure this is real...I just hope it is not a false positive...

FG - that is the best news! you are pregnant!

Hi Ladies

Still lurking around seeing how everyone was going.

FG: Congrats on a BFP so early before your scheduled BT. You must be so excited. Hopefully you have 2 snuggling nicely. It all looks good with the new protocol, are you able to pm me what they diagnosed for you and the treatment options as I really think I need some help turning my embies into sticky ones like you and don't want to use all of my frosties up without having other options...

Everyone else: Hope you are all surviving the TWW.

AFM: Still feeling really yucky. I would have thought that AF would be really heavy and long, but I have been getting horrible cramps about 4am in the morning with bright red flow, but by the afternoon the flow decreases and is a horrible brown. This has happened everyday since I came home on Tuesday. My tummy is very bloated, tender and I have a rash where they put the plaster over the stiches.... I'm back to work on Monday (my last week of my 4 weeks notice) and then become a lady of leisure... Seeing the Dr next Wednesday for my follow up, I'm a bit concerned as if AF has not gone away, I think I will then need to have a D & C and I still probably won't be recovered properly from surgery. This transfer has been the cycle from hell and :pray: that I never have to go through this much again.

Thanks to everyone for the hugs, kisses and best wishes. You girls just don't know how much it means to me to have people who understand all the emotions and dissappointments. DH and family only feel so much, but now I've been home a few days it is almost like I should be back to normal physically & mentally.

Hi everyone. I just posted on the LTAC forum but I just found this thread and noticed so many of you going through the same thing as me at the moment!

My DH and I have been on the IVF journey for almost two years now, and for the first time one of our frozen embryo thawed successfully and we were so happy to have our first FET last Thursday (at Blastocyst).

I have been trying to think positive thoughts all week (I figure if it survived the thaw, this one must be a winner!) and even started getting some standard pregnancy symptoms (metallic taste in my mouth, sore boobs). Then, on Wednesday I started spotting dark brown blood which lasted a couple of days so the clinic organised for me to have a blood test today. I got a call this afternoon and the nurse told me that I registered a very small amount of HCG (about 8) so they are doing another test on Monday to see if my levels rise. I figure I am about 13 DPO and my HCG level seems very low to me. Has anyone had levels this low and gone on to have a successful pregnancy? I am hoping for a miracle.

Good luck to everyone!

HI ladies, need to vent tonight as feeling bit flat. Found out today that none of our embies made it to freeze. Couldn't get much more detail other than that they had started to degenerate by today. Not sure if they grew on past day4 but I guess maybe they did given they kept them going until today (day 6). I had told myself I souldn't expect any frosties but did really think we would at least get the 1 that looked good on day 4. NOw I am really worried about the ones that were transferred as they were about the same quality as that 1. Maybe they are already gone?
Trying to stay positive in the hope they they were the only good ones but its hard when so many supposedly "good" ones have just failed to develop
There is SOOOOO much more to this baby making than just "normal" embies!!
My one consolation at this point is our decision to transfer at day4. Maybe they will fair better in me... Hoping so! Sorry about the whinge. I know I should be very grateful we even got any to put back but having a frostie or two was my saftey blanket

JBM - hoping this is YOUR time. When is FET?

Hayley - so sorry for your BFN and such a horrible AF. Praying she leaves very rapidly. 2009 HAS to be a better year!

FG - you are pg girl!! A BFP is a BFP. stick little bubba, stick!!

Wouldlovabubba - so hoping AF stays away. We need some more BFPs in here

Rach - oooh, all sounds very hopeful for you

Kelld 0 I am so sorry for all that you have been through these last few weeks. I have been through 4 m/c's myself, always with complcations and I really think that it would have been easier to not have fallen pg in the first place. I hope you recover quickly and that 2009 brings happier times

Mon - An HCG of 8 is very low but I am sure there are women out there who could give ou a positive story

Kelly - so sorry you have to go through such an awful cycle - I hope you don't need the D&C - not because the procedure is that bad but because you've been through enough

Mon - I don't know much about HCG levels so I can't help you there but I do know that they don't consider 8 to be a negative...I think it needs to be below a 2 or 3 to be considered negative

Hi to everyone else...and sticky vibes

First thing - Oh my god FG that is such good news!!! I know you still have your beta to come but just seeing that positive on the stick - you must be so thrilled :)

Mon - 8 does seem quite low, there is a beta database somewhere on the net that I read about - (Found it, not sure if Im allowed to post the link, mods please remove if not) BETABASE - this might be able to help you, looks like 8 is okay for 13dpo.


AFM, I tested today (7dp5dt) and got a BFN. DH is distraught and I just don't know what else I can do. I know that there is a slight chance it could still be + but since when have I fallen on that side of the percentage - things dont go right for me. I dont know how much more I can put myself through.

hey guys hows everyone going?

FG: hoping this is a sticky one. yeah !!!!!


kelly: just relax, don't put so much pressure on yourself. you know us women just don't seem to talk about this enough. but after a mc everyone expects you to go back to normal but it takes time. have some me time and don't push yourself too hard .:comfort:. i hope all goes ok and no d & c for you is needed. sending you some cyber hugs xxoo


mon: welcome and hoping for a miracle for you. hope the levels keep rising. good luck

meredith: praying your embies are doing well and snuggling in.

bec: probably too early for testing. remember the saying, pregnant until proven otherwise. :noaf:

afm: well it looks like lh surge will be sunday as got a faint line today. so that means that FET should be on wed 10th of dec. which makes testing day boxing day.
but i am sure i can convince them to let me do my test on 24th ( my birthday) as they'll be closed on 26th and then theres the weekend after that.

:noaf: no more af for a long time for me. about 9 months time.

:pregnant: this will be me in about 8 months time.

i am still feeling good. this is it .

keeping up the positive vibes for me.

hi girls - just popping my head in here (I triggered last night and am having a FET on Tuesday so will be officially back in the TWW forum by then :D)

meredith - I'm so sorry about your freezing results. but on the positive side, the clinic always says to me that the best place for the embies is in the womb. they can only do so much in the lab - embies that might not survive in the lab, may do in the womb, so don't give up hope on the embie transferred. i hope you're ok.

farm girl - congrats!

bec d - hang in there - hope you're ok.

mon - 8 is low, but the important thing is that it doubles every few days. hang in there.

hi to everyone else :hello: I will catch up on personals and be back here on Tuesday - yippee!

mels x

FG - OMG that is fantastic news and just what i needed to pull me out of my slump - CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

KellyD - You are so strong to survive what you have been through - hopefully 2009 will be your year!!!

Mon - :crossfingers: for your BT on monday

BecD - I am pretty sure that a HPT 7 days after a day 5 transfer is too early to tell so hopefully you will still receive some good news

Meredith - I am sure the one little sticky winner is already inside you!!!

AFM - well i recovered from my mini meltdown the other day and decided that AF like pain does NOT have to mean that I am not pregnant so I am back to my positive thoughts again. Only 6 days to go till my BT :crossfingers: I am going to try very hard not to POAS