TTC & Taking Clomid &/0r Metformin ~ Nov/Dec 2007

Hi ladies,

Theresp - Good luck with your 4th cycle, hope this is a good one for the both of us. I've been taking Clomid days 5-9, but not ovulating till day 17 and the last cycle I got my period after 9-10 days after O. Should I be concerned by that and if I take the clomid earlier will I O earlier. Is there any harm in taking it a day or two earlier?? I'm booked in to see specialist in a few days but need to start clomid before that. I hope to to be monitired fully this time, and I don't know much about the trigger injections but I might mention it? Why do they usually suggest them? Also can I ask what "pre seed" is? May be a silly question but I'm looking for anything that will help. I really want this cycle to go well as the mext few months are so busy for us and my partner will be away a bit as well which won't help.

Kelld - I hate waiting too!!!! Good luck though and hopefully the time starts going quicker :)

Emma - Don't feel like a fool this is so new to all of us and there are so many things to get your head around. I would have thought the same thing. All the best.

ickimum- Sorry I'm not sure about the vitamins? I take blackmores "Pregnancy..... GOLD" But I think a parmacist will be able to help.

Thanks ladies, any advice on on the above mentioned would be greatly appreciated.

Hi ickimum,

I have been taking Elevit which was recommended by my FS. They cost about $65 for 100 (so a bit expensive) but are supposed to have the extra Iron, Folate and all the extras needed for Pregnancy & Breastfeed (when the time comes).

When I first started taking them I had a bit of constipation (due to the additional iron0 but that subsided after a while. They really helped me as I was iron deficient and they helped bring the levels up to normal.

theresep: haven't managed the retail therapy as yet. Too tired, although I did have to buy some new bigger bras last week to cope with the increase to my bust size. I am pretty large in that area to start with and now feel a bit Pamela Anderson ish... DH doesn't mind of course, but they are getting in the way hehehe.

Hi all,

I am a brand newie about to embark on my first cycle of clomid. Is there any advice or warnings you can give me about what I may experience or feel? My Gyno/Obs is starting me off on v low dose of 25mg days 5 -9. Then having blood test on day 21 and seeing him on day 24-27. Just waiting for AF any day now so I can get started.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated......
Many thanks in advance,
Aleenta

Hi Aleenta, welcome, I am on my second cycle, the last was chanced due to my hormones being crazy and all over the place. This cycle I am doing okay, I am on 50mg days 2-5, scan at 10 days and then decided what to do from there.......likely egg release and then insemination since our OB feels that is the most sucessful with someone my age :O) I'm old at 38 LOL.
My scan is next tuesday............. I am lucky I don't have any real side affects, a bit of flushing after taking the tablets but it passes, I get a bit grumpy later in the month. Others might have better advice for you,
Hugs Nicki

THanks ladies I have tired Elevit too, I ask at the baby expo last year at the Elevit stand and their only suggestion was I was sensitive to Iron.........my Chemist felt the same, but on the flip side I am often low in Iron too.........My girlfriend is getting me a appointment with her friend that is a busy natural therapist to see if she can test me for Iron sensitivity, Dr just fobbed it off, but this isn't just mild stomach aches, its not nice and really affects me, as soon as I stop taking the tablet it goes away.
I will let you know what I find out, thanks again...........

Hi all :hello:

Kristen - i've been taking clomid cd 5 - 9, but for this cycle, my FS suggested days 3 - 7. I didn't really question him as to why the change, so i guess if you were concerned, then maybe you could ring your FS? This cycle i will be taking my temps again, so i can have a good idea of O. In the past clomid cycles, (cd5-9), i've ovulated on cd 14 and 15, then AF arrived 14 dpo - but this has always been my situation, even when not on clomid - so it will be interesting to see if i O earlier, because i'm taking the clomid earlier. The trigger shot is an injection of Pregnyl, which helps release the mature egg. It is given after a scan, once your FS has confirmed that there is a good sized follicle, and is injected under your skin, either in your thigh, or tummy. I'm having scans done on cd 10, and also cd13. If on cd13 there is a good size follie, then the FS will give me the trigger on that day. Pre-seed is a 'vaginal lubricant' :rolleyes: that is pH balanced to match fertile cervical mucus. This makes it friendly to sperm, and helps them swim upstream! In the past, a naturopath has told me that i'm quite acidic, and this may have been harming the sperm, so i figure if i have plenty of sperm friendly lube, then it just may help them survive :lol:. It is available from lullabyconceptions.com and once ordered, it arrives very promptly. HTH, and goodluck for your cycle :D

Welcome Aleenta ... best of luck on your cycle - the main thing that i can think of that seems to work for me, is that i take the clomid at night, before i go to bed, then if i was to have any side effects (nausea or headaches etc) then atleast i would be in bed for the following 7 or 8 hrs, so my body would be quiet, and resting, and not having to deal with work or chores or whatever. :goodluck:

KellyD - wish i was buying bigger bras, i look forward to an increase, as i have little 'uns :p

:confetti: Have a great friday! tp x

Hi Ladies

Welcome Aleenta, I am in my 3rd clomid cycle and taking 25mg day 2 - 6. I am now in the dreaded TWW. The side affects that I suffer are increase body temp and bloating. I started my first cycle to see of that worked and had no luck with any follicles. So the dosage was increased to 50mg for the second cycle to kit start my ovaries and I had 5 follicles, so the cycle was cancelled as there were too many and I suffered from Hyperstimulation. So this cycle went back to 25mg as we think that the 50mg gave them too much of a shock and I had 1 good follicle. I get scanned generally around days 10-12 and then have trigger around day 14-16 (if only 1 or 2 good follicles present) as I don't seem to O on my own and then a prog BT 1 week after trigger to check level to make sure O happened. And finally P test 17 days after trigger.

It is really confusing at the start trying to work out what you need to do with your meds and appt's as well as trying to read you body signals, but we are all going throught ths with you as well. :crossfingers: 25mg works for you first time :goodluck:.

theresep: I hope get to experience they Big BB's as well. I am only dreaded how big they may actually get if I do get a BFP. I think they may enter rooms with me following a few steps behind :cryinglaugh:

Hi all,

Thanks for responding to my message, you have made me feel very welcome:D

Nicki - I don't think you are old, I am the same age as you and I don't think I am old, although some may say I am in denial LOL!!
theresp - thanks for the advice on taking clomid at night sounds like a good idea
Kelly - thanks for the words of encouragement, I have my fingers crossed for you in the TWW.

Was planning a girls weekend away with 3 friends for mid Feb but looking at the dates I may have to stay home and engage in BD!!
Thanks again!
Aleenta

Hi Ladies

I had to post this today as I have had the most confusing weekend possible. Tomorrow is test time but this weekend I have been getting more cramps and I was sure AF was going to start last night.

I noticed a small amount of very light pink when going to toilet and thought this is the start, but this morning I have woken up and all that remains is a small amount of brown discharge. Also today I am sooo hot it is unbearable. I am
really confused as I have a gut feeling that this cycle has been unsuccessful :(

Has anyone else had the same thing happen to them and then had a BFN afterwards. I think I am going crazy.....

Hi KellyD - i can't really add anything that will make things clearer for you - do you usually have a 'stop - start' beginning to AF, or do you normally just get a full flow? I'll have my fingers crossed for you! With my last cycle, scans showed no mature follies, but in the week leading up to AF, i had the most sensitive nipples ever - and this hadn't happened before, so of course i kept thinking .... maybe the scans missed something, and maybe i did have a mature follie, just hiding away .... but that was wishful thinking :rolleyes: we play such mind games at these times! Best of luck to you ... have you poas yet? Or is it a BT that you're having today? :goodluck: tp

Thanks Therese

I did a poas this morning which was as expected a BFN, but at least could ring the clinic today to discuss.

I had to go in for a BT (was in Melb at work so had to come back to Ballarat) so am waiting on the results. From the results might have to see the FS as I have had the cramping for a week now, so they want to make sure there is no chance of an ectopic. Although have started spotting again so maybe AF is going to start and put my mind at rest. I have to fly to Syd for work tomorrow and am back on Wed night so we are making sure there is nothing wrong before leaving.

When AF normally starts I generally get severe pain and then it is full on from there. Although last cycle it was a full on flood so I am hoping it won't happen this same this cycle.

So I think I will be on Cycle 4 shortly.

Hi Ladies

BT results also a BFN, I had an emergency appointment with my FS as AF not started and cramping for past week. He didn't seem concerned so just have to wait and then onto next Clomid cycle. He did however give me the option of trying 2 more cycles of clomid/natural or can go straight to IUI for next 5 cycles.

He seems to think that I should get a BFN in a six month timeframe, so could be a good thing (something positive to look forward to) or a bad thing (hoping that each month is the one and if doesn't happen by cycle 6 then feeling I have failed). Will have to discuss with DH tonight which way to go, but he seemed disappointed when I told heim about BFN. He was really supportive and promised it will happen this month (for my birthday).

So I am now waiting for AF so can start 25mg days 2-6 again.

Hi, I am a bit confused. I took clomid for a year about two years ago. Never a late period. I just took a cyle of clomid from day 5 to 9 (2 tablets a day) i am 6 days late, thought I might be pregnant and have just started first sign of a peiod. My gyno told me if you are late with clomid you are pregnant. This does't seem to be correct from what you girls are saying. I know the side effects from clomid. Really sore breasts before your period is due ( like you are pregnant which does go away I also can feel my egg being close to release at day 14) I really don't like this drug as it tricks you with false hope each cycle. this cycle and weekend has been a roller coaster.
Alison

Kelly D sorry to hear of your bfn ... if some positives can be found, lucky it didn't turn out to be an ectopic. I know some months, my DH can get really disappointed, but we always dig deep and find plenty of hope and optimism to look ahead to the next cycle. Your FS sounds confident of a BFP soon, so :crossfingers:! Although i know you will be thinking ....ok, it has to be this month... I know i'm putting alot of faith in the cycle i'm on now, so hope it isn't a hard landing if it's not a BFP :pray:.

Alison - how are things going for you? Has AF showed yet ... i think if i was 6 days late, i would do a hpt ... were you taking clomid again for this cycle? My FS has not mentioned that being late on clomid means you are preg, but so far, i've never been 'late' ... my AF has always arrived day 28-30, even when not on clomid. I pray for the day when i get past day 30 with no sign of AF! It's interesting - i would normally have sore BB's when not on clomid, but my cycles with clomid, i haven't had sore BB's ... just really sensitive nipples on my 3rd clomid cycle :rolleyes: . I don't know, all this analysis .... some days i just want to throw my hands in the air and just not think about anything!!!

Best wishes. :D tp

Kristen160, ickimum and Aleenta :hello:hello! How are you all doing?

:dance:
Doing the happy dance here, we have 2 beautiful healthy little eggs ready to hatch already, there was 4 other tiny ones that the OB feels will amount to nothing so she didn't cancel the cycle like I was fearing she would at first.
I took the trigger at the Clinic today because the 2 little beauties are already 20mm and the OB wanted them to release today.
We aren't doing Insem as DH had no time to get organise as we triggered today instead of day 14(which would of given us time to do the Insem)
I was happy as far as we know there is no issue that would cause this not to work, Lap& DC was clear once I got the precancerous treatments, Dh was okay last time he was tested.
SO we have to do our "thing";) for the next 4 days she tells us.............
I should ovulate late tomorrow or into the next day............
We will see what the next few weeks bring, Keeping everything crossed........OB feels if this doesn't work within 3 cycles she will talk to us about IVF.
SOOOOOO praying this works :O) SO don't want to do IVF but I guess I will to make this happen.........I want a beautiful baby so bad :O)
Hugs to everyone, hope everything is going well.
Hugs Nicki

Alison my OB/GYN told me today that if you trigger OVulation on CLomid that its 14-16 days to AF from then, if it doesn't come then test.............
She says when Ovulation is known to have happened you should get your AF then.....otherwise its good news :O)
Hugs Nicki

HI girls.....................................ITS A BFP.......................................

I POAS this morning it was negative then tonight on 3 digital POSITIVE>>

I AM IN SHOCK... this means i am pregnant right???? I just cant belive it...

PLEASE STICK!!!!

with my MC i didnt get a positve POAS at all.. jsut betas up and down!!!!


BABYDUST TO ALL!!!!!!

I CANT BELIVE ITS REAL!!!!!!!!!!