Pram for 2 kids help and suggestions please

I got a P & T e3 off ebay for $450. It came with doubles kit and cocoon. I went and bought the sadle bags which are ok to store stuff in/groceries. I have a back pack as my nappy bag so never had an issue with it hitting bubs in the head. I love it because it fits into shops, sticky beaks cant really see newborns to touch! I have the one with the clips to do the seat up, and while initially I thought it was a PITA, its easy now. I have a foot brake and its tricky to do with thongs on. Its easy to fold, folds flat in the car, isnt too heavy. The only thing I wish it had was rubber tyres. My dd1 is now 3 and still rides up top. Problem with that is it is getting tricky to pop dd2 down the bottom without smacking her head. We have bub 3 on the way, so it will be good then and am going to get dh to design a seat for dd1 over the front wheel (she often sits there but her weight makes the pram hit the tyre...hard to push and has ruined the fabric underneath).

All in all...best pram I have had....I have had 3 others!

My friend who is pg with her second has just bought a Peg Perego duette, she has a 13 month old. They are pricey new but you might be able to get your hands on a second hand one. It's one of those one seat in front of the other ones so getting through doorways shouldn't be an issue and you can turn the seats to face each other. Can't go wrong with a Peg really.

Wow - thank you again for all your info and advice. I really appreciate the feedback as i get nervous about spending so much money on something and i want it to be perfect :)

I'll have alook at the valco too and i absolutely love the look of the baby jogger (thanks krikkit). Unfortunaelty i cant find anywhere just yet that stocks the baby jogger in my area and i dont think i would buy a pram un road tested by me. Are they wide too like the mountain buggy and strider? i think they are but not 100% sure.

I'm still at a loss, its either a 2nd hand P&T sport or E3 or a new strider delux (which i love but didnt want the wideness issue). what to do, what to do, what to do???

I have also seen some valcos going cheap 2nd hand so i'll def have a look at those and i think a friend has one but i do like the option of both kids being able to sleep confortably in the pram - not just perched up on top. This is not a deal breaker though lol.

Keep the suggestions coming, i still have a few months up my sleeve. If anyone has a strider delux and wants to give me some feedback id apprecite that too.

Thanks my lovely BB ladies xxxx

Baby Jogger Australia

this may have the stockists locally for the babyjogger

thanks, now why didnt i see tha the first time i looked?? pregnant brain :) xx

on youtube for the city series

YouTube - Baby Jogger - City Series

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thanks, now why didnt i see tha the first time i looked?? pregnant brain :) xx

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I think the first website I posted was the US one, they have a bit more detail than the AU one.

Not sure if you have looked at the Adventure Buggy Company prams (made in NZ by Phil & Ted under a different name) but the single pram with fully reclining toddler seat looks amazing and I will be getting one when this bub arrives.

I've seen a few on Ebay as well in the Eastern States.

Good luck deciding! After names, pram is definitely the hardest one for me!

I have the same age gap with my two boys.
I have a Phil and Teds Vibe. Now, before you fall off you chair, yes they can be expensive, but we bought ours online cheaper than a P&T Dash retails for. It is the less popular 'graffitti' colour, that's why. (It just made your budget). We have no accessoried though - yes, they are pricey.
The brake is a tiny red button on the handle which can be turned on so quickly and easily. Also, it actually folds with the two seats still attached, which means that you don't have as much trouble folding it up etc.

We have the same age gap as you, and I also started out with the Beema Q which I loved.

I was never keen on the P&T's, mainly as DD still will sleep in the pram when we were out, and I didn't like the fact that the seat for the older child couldn't recline, so when the Strider Plus was released I bought that and I love it. Yep, its a bit wider than the beema but still fits through most places that you'll take a pram - def not as wide as a side by side, and the valco single is about the same width I think.

I like the fact that I can have the new baby in the top seat facing me, and DD in the bottom (I don't think they endorse this, but it works!) it means that she can hop in and out when she wants - she'll quite often want to walk when we 1st get to the shops but after a while, still wants to pram ride. Other times, I'll put the baby in the 2nd seat at the bottom and DD in the mainseat, and its not tippy at all - its really stable even if DD gets out - unlike the P&T in toddler mode - if the toddler on top gets out, it gets tippy.

The change bag - i use nappy bag clips and attach it to the front of the pram, at the bottom of the main seat itms. I also have a mummy hook and things attach fine to that without hitting the baby in the head.

It also came with the rain cover, boot cover and sunshade, and the 2nd seat has its own hood.

Good luck!

I have a strider 4 wheeler (not the deluxe but I think they handle the same). On the positive side for its size it is very manouverable and easy to push. the seat does not go flat for a newborn but that didn't bother my DD. The basket is quite roomy and easy to get to which ever way the seat is facing, but not so easy if you have the bassinet in palce. On the negative side, it is very heavy, I found it very difficult to fold it up with the seat in so always had to remove the seat to put it in the car but I got used to that. It took up a lot of room in the boot of my medium sized sedan (most of it really). I also found that with the seat fully upright DD slid down it a lot and ended up slumped. It is wide because the back wheels stick out quite a bit and I do have trouble going through some checkouts and aisles with it.

Saying all that I actually really liked it and would still use it quite happily if it wasn't for number two coming along in the next few months. I have just bought a P&T sport second hand off ebay for $510 including toddler seat, rain and shade covers and so far (having only just recieved it today) it looks really good. I can PM you the web address of a company in Queensland that sells prams at a really good price if you want (not sure I can put it here).

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I have a P&T Vibe and I absolutely love it. I don't know why it would be said that you need to hands to put the brake on as it is a single button right at your hand, very easy to put on. It is however a little more difficult to release, which I personally think it s good thing. You can do it one handed but it does need some practice... I have it down pat now ;)

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Although I must say we did have a major issue with the Vibe early on. After a few weeks of use, suddenly the front wheel wouldn't swivel properly, and if we put the wheel on lock (forward) it yawed to the right. Apparently this isn't uncommon in the Vibe. At the time it was virtually unuseable but was fixed within 10 days and the place of purchase loaned us a Dash to tide us over. It's been fine ever since.

I started sitting DS2 upright in the Vibe at about 3 1/2 months - he's a big boy and at about 7kg and 65cm was too big/long to lay flat in the newborn part.

A good pram though - would recommend it, even despite the small glitch we had.