Mildez I am so sorry for what doc and hospital have said hug hug
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Mildez I am so sorry for what doc and hospital have said hug hug
Surely, that's negligence. This is your life on the line! I'd be asking to talk to a consultant and insisting on treatment now. Any chance of going private?
As for the insensitive comment, he needs a smack upside the head. I so sorry you're going through this.
OMG! I can't believe he said that!
I'm so sorry they're refusing the shot. Do you have any other avenues you can pursue. Seems crazy that they should put you at risk like this. :(
This was private through a private clinic. I got an urgent appointment yesterday for today that my GP got for me. He (Visiting consultant from RPA as my Gynea is away for 2months) originally said given my history he would be happy to give it now but when he called the hospital (the only place you can have methotrexate administered) the hospital on call Gynea said to refer me to the EPAS clinic and I will have 2nd weekly tests until my levels are several hundred which is the very earliest they will administer methotrexate. That's the hospital policy and they can not do anything about it basically. I heard the phone call to the hospital O&G and heard the other Dr say that there not doing me any favours giving it to me now anyway as clearly my tube has a problem and its not going to give me a successful pregnancy in the future anyway. Personally I think that's my choice to make and honestly with no tubes there is no chance. Atleast with a tube even damaged successful pregnancies have resulted but maybe Im not going to be given that chance. He also said as I have 3 children to basically have my tube removed and forget about it. Even IVF he said he wouldn't recommend as I have 3 children.:
I am sorry you have had to endure such insensitive comments hun. It's so not fair. thinking of you. Wishing it was more positive news for you instead of this. (hugs)
I can see his point when he is comparing me to many others who haven't been fortune like me to have a larger then average family and despite many pregnancies I still have 3 very healthy happy children but on the other hand if my DH and I want more children and are paying for a service (IVF) provided we fit their criteria which we would who is it to decide we shouldn't try for another through IVF because we already have 3. If we didn't have any together but I had 3 for example I am sure he would see that as a reasonable request but not because we have children together. I don't have to worry about that now anyway and am so fortunate age is currently on my side so I have a few years left before making that decision anyway.
*hugs*
would rocking up to A& E with constant pain in the overay and demanding an u/s to see as you fear an eptopic do anything? surely they'd be able to see *something* and then act?
:hugs: im sorry you're going though this Mildez x
Dansta I would happily do that if I thought it would help but the hospital would probably seize the opportunity to remove more then just my tube and then by the time it grew big enough to see on ultrasound it would probably turn up somewhere else. I don't want to wait until my HCG is high enough to detect where the pregnancy is. He said it could be in the remaining stump of my old tube or else floating anywhere in my abdomen basically as the tube is pinned down and may not have even swept the embie into the tube to start with. They said a pregnancy can only be detected with a HCG around or above 1500 so with a level of 44 yesterday I don't think they will be finding anything anytime soon.
Unfortunately with hcg that low, they wouldn't see anything :-(:
They didn't see my ectopic until my hcg reached 2530... And they couldn't confirm it was in my right tube until the hcg rose to 3260 (48hrs later)
Hun, I really hope they do something soon to help. I hate it how they blame policies and hospital formalities into play. It's like they got to cover their butts. :-( they seem to want to do that without caring about the patient. :-(
I have no idea if this option is feasible with a possible ectopic, but given your certainty that this is not a viable pregnancy, is RU486 a possibility? It's something I'd ask a doctor as I dont know what happens with it when a pregnancy is not in the uterus or whether any further damage to the tube could result.
i do know that general advice for an ectopic in a damaged tube is to remove the tube, in case necrosis sets in and causes other damage to the body. With my ectopic at 5 weeks, there was already necrosis.
wow I am so sorry you are having to go through this and put up with such insensitivity. I have everything crossed for you
Omg mildez, I don't know what else to say except I'm so sorry :( I wish things were so different for u right now... Thinking of u xxx
Mildez what a creep of a doctor, even if he thought you were more fortunate than some doesn't mean he should make an opinionated call on it like that. I'd be making an official complaint.
Aside from that, I hope you're doing ok. What an ordeal. :(
I would assume RU486 wouldn't be an option. Ive certainly never seen it used in an ectopic pregnancy. I can only hope the pregnancy isn't in my tube. The consultant said it could very well be in the abdomen as when I had it checked years ago it was very much opened it was its ability to move which would cause a problem. So he thought there was a good chance it didn't even make it into the tube to start with. Or maybe in the other side which is also quiet possible. Either way I don't see the sense in waiting to find out.:
I would assume RU486 wouldn't be an option. Ive certainly never seen it used in an ectopic pregnancy. I can only hope the pregnancy isn't in my tube. The consultant said it could very well be in the abdomen as when I had it checked years ago it was very much opened it was its ability to move which would cause a problem. So he thought there was a good chance it didn't even make it into the tube to start with. Or maybe in the other side which is also quiet possible. Either way I don't see the sense in waiting to find out.:
I'm suppose to have another BT today not sure when I will get the results however. Its been done at the hospital so I might get them today even. My pregnancy test was ever so slightly lighter this morning and I think it took a fraction longer to come up so I am praying to God that the HCG drops of on its own over the next few days and I wont need surgery or the injection. Either way I know ectopics can go up and down so I'm not getting excited yet but hopefully my body can do it on its own.
I really hope it can resolve itself too.
I've been doing more googling. Apparently expectant management is normal for low HCG. Also, the mifepristone (RU486) is used in conjunction with methotrexate in some cases, but not on it's own for an ectopic.
Thinking of you.
That's good to know thankyou L&B. On Wednesday my hcg was only 44 but Thursday and Friday the line was darker then Wednesdays but todays I am sure it is lighter then the last 2days so FX expectant management is all I'll need.
I hope it does resolve on its own.
only just saw this thread. :hug: Thinking of you xo
HCG is 32 now so FX it keeps going down. It was done at a different lab so they said there will be variations between them and they said if ectopic it could very well go up anyway. I hope it keeps going down.
I hope it resolves naturally for you sweet.
I've just waited 48hrs before doing another HPT and I have been loosing lots of clots and I honestly expected it to be a BFN or very close to it but nope the darkest BFP yet. So devastated. After the HCG going down I wasn't expecting this. I really thought this would be the end for this but apparently it couldn't be that easy.
:( sorry to hear mildez
Big hugs honey, sending you lots of strength
Crap! So sorry, hun. :(
Oh Mildez. You must be desperate for more closure / conclusion now. :hug:
:( here for you lovely lady....
Thanks all. My bleeding has settled to almost non existent which worries me as my normal AF goes for a lot longer then this has. I couldn't help myself and did another POAS and the line is a lot fainter now which is good. Still there but definitely a lot lighter then yesterday. I have an appointment on Friday for more BT so FX I get good results then.
I wish I had the right words. But I've been thinking of you, hoping everything resolves itself and you can have some peace. :(
just wanted to send some love
Sorry, I missed your last update. Good to hear the line was fainter. Hoping you get good news from today's test. Will you find out on Monday?
Oh that's good news Mildez. Slow but steady. X
I had my final BT yesterday and the results come back as 2 so not pregnant. Wish this time bub had been sticky but obviously relieved the pregnancy wasn't an ectopic. I'm nervous about trying again but as my tubal damage is progressive I don't feel I have time to wait. I have a follow up appointment with my Gynea next month but I'm not sure if I should cancel it or go and ask for a lap and dye as maybe that would help my tube get an embie to the uterus. I don't know what to do. Maybe my tube was quiet good and got the embie to the uterus but it was a dud or maybe the tube poisoned it and that's why it didn't progress (A sick tube can kill off embryo's which is why they recommend removing damaged tubes before IVF to increase the chances of success)
I'm sorry bub wasn't a sticky one but relieved for you that it wasn't an ectopic.
Good luck with your TTC journey hun. I'm hoping it goes smoothly and you get your bubba soon xx
Thanks PP. I've got to get a strong course of AB's as my tubal damage is caused by a recurrent bacterial vaginosis so hopefully the AB's will help make my tube as good as possible. I'm sad I got so close to having another baby but hope it means everything is ok just one of those things. FX Ill be celebrating another little person coming in a few months. Although we were not preventing a lot of the time after DD was born it was only 3 cycles after I weaned her which is super quick for me so hopefully I wont be waiting too long for another BFP.
Glad to hear the b/t results were down and the risk of it being ectopic is over. But, of course, it's bittersweet with the disappointment of the loss. FX that you'll soon have a healthy pg.
Glad you are out of the woods and know its not ectopic. I am so sorry your bubba didn't stick and stay around. Thinking of you xo