Pregnancy After Stillbirth/Recurrent Miscarriage/Late Loss September 2009

Katie.. its pretty much just in my head that an anterior placenta will be a cause for problems.. so please dont worry anyone else who has one!!

For me- its just that with zahra- my abruption was pretty much unexplained... (long story coming) often an abruption is caused by clots forming behind the placenta and pushing the placenta away from the uterine wall. With me- i had a bleed at the edge of the placenta.. some time between 18 and 35 weeks.. the bleed clotted (refer now aswell to my stress re aspirin.... :wall:) which was actually a good thing.. so come our scan with Zahra at 35weeks they noticed the clot and said it was holding and should be right. Add extra mental stress and anguish and 24 hours later the clot broke free and i bled internally and the placenta abrupted...

NOW.. the drs say the most common cause of placenta bleeding is a trauma such as a car accident where the belly hits the steering wheel or some kind of bump to the belly. My placenta then was to the side, not exactly anterior or posterior (i think) and there was nothing i could think of that had caused trauma to my belly...

SO... when the crazy lady grabs hold she tells me that with the placenta out in front its right in the firing line for trauma. And if it could happen once without me knowing it can happen again, especially when a little someone loves to kick my belly (not the little someone IN my belly ... DS)

AND,.... add to this worry- that technically i once tested a very low positive to Aca (a blood clotting disorder) and i had an abruption (though one NOT related to the disorder... ARE YOU STILL WITH ME???? MY CRAZY LADY GETS COMPLICATED!!!) My new specialist (as i have moved cross country) hears the "tested positive" and "abruption" and tells me to take aspirin....

NOW crazy lady lady says "no way" if my very vulnerable placenta gets injured and i bleed i DO NOT want to be on aspirin, i want it to clot. The Dr who knew my history (a specialist) who knew my results RE the Aca, told me NOT to take it with Shane- so in hindsite i am trusting his advice from two years ago- and my reasoning.. Shane is here, my placenta was fine- not a single clot. Every scan so far it has been fine. So i am going against my drs advice and not taking aspirin.. so of course my other crazy lady (coz lets be honest i have a few in there who often disagree) tell me what if i SHOULD TAKE IT???!!!!

So thats pretty much where the emergence of crazy lady entered.... i feel like i am f''d if i do and f'd if i dont, and my body isnt giving me any reassuring MOVEMENTS!!!! But i will be ok... my instinct is to not take the aspirin.. i am fairly set with that one. I felt wrong taking it, so i stopped. As for my placenta (oh and for later there is a tad more stress involved there.. its low too and is so far clear of my c section scar.. but we might need to check on that closer to delivery incase they go to cut me open and cut through the placenta instead... yay) i just need to make friends with it.. :p and trust it will all be ok!!!

Wow- that actually felt good to write out.. sorry for the all about me post.. but feeling a bit less cray after getting it all out there!!! Thanks for reading!!!

STALKER ALERT......
Update on jlk...
ALL IS GREAT!!!! BABY IS PERFECT IN EVERYWAY.. EVERYTHING IS LOOKING FANTASTIC!!!! SHE HAS A BIG DRIVE HOME AND WILL POST SOME MORE DETAILS PROBABLY TOMORROW!

:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

jlk, :dance: I know that this will not be the end of your worry but what a milestone!

Starbright, I think that you should definitely go with your instinct with the aspirin. If you don't feel comfortable taking it, it is not worth the stress. My doctors tell me that "we don't know if aspirin therapy works in practice but it sounds good in theory". I think that most doctors would prescribe you aspirin. It is standard practice here in the US for someone with a past abrution and possible clotting disorder to take it. Just know that a low dose of aspirin does no harm. It will not keep you from clotting.
Oh, and my crazy lady is already starting to find her way home to me. As soon as we started putting effort into TTC, I started to check on Grayson at night. Every night I have to make sure that he is still breathing.:rolleyes:

Katiegirl, I always hated that one week that appts. got mixed up or skipped. That change in routine caused me lots of stress. I think the fact that you are getting close is also causing you to worry a bit. (I just looked at your ticker!)

angelicdragon, I craved water with Grayson. I drank like a fish! My DH told my doctor about it because he was so concerned. I don't know why water drinking would scare someone, I guess it was really out of the norm for me.

klee, have you picked any names yet?



BBL to read jlk's post.
Grayson is 9 months old today! Where does the time go?

Hey all,

well as SB said everything went perfectly at yesterdays scan, bub is most definatly a fidget, wriggled the whole time :) Plus we were able to find out the sex.... .......ITS A GIRL. (for those of you who have me on facebook, keep it a secret! lol)

be back later for some personals.

Starbright - you let the crazy lady out here anytime sweetie!

jlk, yay for a wiggly little girl! :dance:

JLK - good news on a wiggley little girl. Bet you are over the moon.

Hi all,

jlk, congrats. That's fabulous news, the best!

Klee, *waves* thanks for the welcome back. I still can't keep up with the thread! I went and saw the psychiatric liaison nurse today, as a midwife referred me. She just said listen to calming music. Hope you're having a quieter week this week.

AFM waiting waiting. 34 weeks now. I asked my ob on wednesday if I can be induced at 37 weeks and he said as long as the baby's engaged and my cervix is favourable. So fingers crossed. I really don't know how I'm going to make it that long with my sanity intact but I tell myself I've made it 34 weeks - I can do another 3 or 4. Monitoring went ok this week. Fluid was 6.8, about the same as last week. I'm having a growth scan next wednesday. That might help me get through week 35.

Bec.

Jo, great news on the scan hun :)

I've been a bit quiet coz we got some good news and not good news.
On Feb 24th at 6w3d baby had a h/b but only measured 5w2d (4.5mm)and the sac was GSD 5w2d - 5w6d .. longest GSD (gestation sac diameter) being 11.2mm so this week at 7w5d baby had grown to 1.7mm (equal to 7w2d) so had increased by 2 weeks and had a recordable heartbeat of 147 .. so that is the good news.
bad news is the sac hasn't grown in proportion and only just fits in as borderline normal. longest GSD being 19.7mm or 6w6d. It is a funny shape not nice and round, looks like it is quashed. the other sac has also grown but still looks empty and the subchorionic bleed has shrunk.
So we still don't know if this baby is going to make it or not. She did say my OB should be able to tell us more when he does his own scan on the 15th.
I picked up a very clear heartbeat on the doppler at 7w3d and haven't heard it since so I was glad the scan showed it was still there!
Usually by now I am almost bedridden with m/s but this time I get a faint sense of nausea if i get tired and the only time I have dry retched at all was the morning I cleaned out the puppies kennel... mind you that would set anyone off!!!
So... I dunno... the old wait and see ... but I can't help feeling baby won't make it. As the sonographer described it, we have a perfect baby in an imperfect house.

Oh Jude.. fingers crossed that things improve - i know its hard to know how to feel right now- its a very hard limbo time for you :hug: I hope the sac improves its shape
(if thats possible??!!) and that this miracle bubba keeps growing nice and strong for you and that your dr has some good news for you on the 15th.

On a side note- its seems oddly (and suckily) ironic that bubs sac is mis shapen and there is a weird good sac sittin there doing not much beside it. That would **** me. :hug::hug::hug:

mummabec - Hold on! You are right you made it this far....

angelicdragon - sweetie, what a tough time you're having. This journey isn't easy. Try not to put too much store in the comparisions between the pregs - each is different, but I know it's hard not to make the comparisons. holding you close yo my heart.

angelicdragon, I know that there is nothing that we can say to stop your worry. I will be keeping my fingers crossed for a great scan on the 15th. Try to think of the positive, bub has grown nicely and has a HB. Did they do the internal ultrasound this time?

Bec, 6.8 isn't a horrible fluid number. I think that it is on the low side of normal. I know that the extra worry is the last thing that you need right now. One day at a time hun. You will get there. If you are having trouble getting through next week be sure to tell your doctor. Maybe they can give you some extra appt. along with the ultrasound. That really helped me through the tough days.

dory, How are you holding up? Has your bleeding stopped?

Ellie, I hope everything is going well for you. Let us know how you are.

I also have some news, I think. I had a very very faint second line today. It is still 3 days before AF. I am not going to get excited. This has happened to me twice in the past and AF shows up and my faint second line goes away. I will test again tomorrow and see if it is any darker. Keep those fingers crossed for me.

Laney - ohhh. Fingers crossed. And yes, the very small amount stopped after 2 days. Sorry forgot to say! If it had kept up I would have said. Sorry, and thanks for asking :)

Hi to everyone else, look forward to hearing how you are going.

Laney - fingers all crossed!

AD - hope your scan on the goes well, xoxoxo

Laney - holding my breath for you hun...everything crossed for you :) Thanks for thinking of me!
JLK - Congrats on your pink bubba...very exciting!
AD - Thinking of you hun...like Laney said...try and focus on the positive...hard I know but we're all here praying and hoping for you xxx
mummabec - Hang in there...the last few weeks are the worst hey...like time is standing still...hope your OB will get bub here safe and sound...SOON!
Big HI to everyone I've missed...
AFM - Have had three weeks basically stuck at home with colds and a virus...Miss A still has a runny nose but much happier and sleeping through again...thank goodness! My morning sickness...well all day sickness has returned out of the blue and my back is stuffed from bub and Miss A now weighing over 11 kg...had her weighed at the health nurse for her 12 month check up and she is off the chart for weight and height...no wonder my back hurts!!! Just counting down now...9 weeks tomorrow...seems like a lifetime away...have a great week everyone...one week closer!

Wow Laney- i know its too early to be excited.. but fingers crossed for you matie that that line gets darker!!! xoxoxox

Ellie.. i hope things get better soon!! Thats great that DD is thriving!! Although i am sure your back disagrees!! 9 weeks.. single digit countdown!!

Hi to everyone! I hope your all doing well!!

AFM.. the crazy lady has been locked up again for now.. i am feeling alot better after voicing my worries.. its amazing what just letting those nasty thoughts out does!! Thanks everyone for being here to listen!! I am feeling more and more movements everyday which is really nice!

DS is being great! He is kissing my tummy now when i saw "a kiss for your sister?" and then he pulls his shirt up and looks at his belly lol so i am not sure he quite gets it- but we are getting there!! :lol:

Take care everyone!

Ellie - sounds like you have been under the pump. Are you able to rest? 9 weeks to go is so awesome......

Starbright - good to hear, but the crazy lady is welcome back anytime. Shane sounds so cute with his lil sis in the making.

One of my friends sisters first baby is due in 2-3 weeks. I am actually really excited for her.

THE LINE IS MUCH DARKER TODAY!!!!! :crossfingers: Now, No bleeding tomorrow!