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ahhhhhh I gave in last week and had a soft serve! Couldnt resist it. Especially when my whole family was sitting around eating one infront of me!
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ahhhhhh I gave in last week and had a soft serve! Couldnt resist it. Especially when my whole family was sitting around eating one infront of me!
Don Strass all the way!!!
Yep like Rouge said, that's the only way I've eaten ham, hence it only being once or twice, as you've got to have pretty much the first slices of it lol. I doubt DF would be happy with me buying legs of ham to only eat the first few bits :lol:
As for the sushi, I was led to believe that the risk there is with the rice having sat there for a bit so unless they're boiling that rice fresh for you it's not good? I've been craving inari and vego rolls like mad, so we've been making our own at home. SO good!
I also think there's a lot of personal choice here. Some people are okay with a bit of cola every now and then and a bit of maccas lettuce every now and then (me) and others are okay with a little bit of wine and beer, which I'm personally not (but I'm so not bothered by that choice, kwim?) what in trying to say is that my soft cheese and cola may be unacceptable to some people to whom some of their choices may differ from my own. I think as long as we can weigh up the risks and make sure we are informed in what we are doing, make the choices on a case to case basis even, we should be fine :)
I havent read all the responses but i like to fry my ham before eating it sometimes. I think that should get rid of some listeria? if you are craving for ham.
My midwife last year told me that she used to give women a post-birth Guiness (sp), as it's very good for them and for breastfeeding. So there you go...another vote for dark beers!
When I was pregnant (3 times) I also ate foods on the forbidden list: Camembert, sushi to name a few. But I don't eat red meat (mammals) so didn't eat ham or most deli meats... I also didn't eat pre-sliced chicken.
I think every pregnant women just needs to read up about Food poisoning and Listeria and then trust her mumma instincts. But do the reading first ;) Google it... read... takes only a few minutes. Everyone should understand the basics of food hygiene but it is especially important for pregnant women. I also think that just giving women a "Forbidden Foods" list is over simplifying the issue and creating a false belief that if a pregnant woman simply avoids all the foods on the list she will be ok. Wrong. I think she needs to understand why and how food... almost any food... can become contaminated. THEN the woman can apply her knowledge to the many and varied scenarios she is presented with: "She is at a wedding and hasn't any idea how the food has been stored and prepared... should she risk it? What can she eat instead?" or "a friend is holding a BBQ and offers her a platter of cheese... how long has the platter been sitting on the buffet table? Is it worth the risk?"
Arm women with real knowledge and not just over simplified lists... that's my soap box argument for the day!
ETA: my last bout of really bad food poisoning came from eating a piece of Flinders bread. No it wasn't the filling: avocado. DH had peanut butter on his and was also very sick. It was the bread... bread! Who would have thunk it!!!??? Lucky I wasn't pregnant!
I should add that I've worked in catering and done food hygiene courses and believe that most people are terribly oblivious to some pretty basic practises that could lead to serious health risks. If you didn't listen during your cooking classes at school then don't put it off any longer... you do need to know this stuff and not just rely on a list.
I accidently gave myself food poisioning when I was 38 weeks preg....not from meat, or cheese or etc...but from soy milk! I was so busy making my banana smoothie in my pregnant foggy brain that I didn't notice that the soy milk had pretty much solidified in the carton!
God I puked so much I thought I was going to die! :-P
Good on you for satisfying your wicked craving!!!! :dance:
I have been off ham so no ham for me!
I am absolutely CRAVING sushi and have been for weeks but just too scared to buy any :lol: need to be braver like you I think!!
I eat ham....but I usually have it on a toasted sandwich. I think in Australia, we are pretty safe from listeria. Our meat is very fresh and the supermarkets store it really well. Just make sure you eat it fresh and not slices that have been in the fridge for a week :)
I am absolutely craving it too!!! I gave into my craving at 14 weeks and had a couple of rolls (not raw fish ones tho) and ended up at the emerg dep that night with a bleed. Im positive eating sushi had nothing to do with it.. i think it was just the universe telling me to watch it!! :) Made me super paranoid tho!!:
Actually that's not really true about us being safe here in Australia. A big wellknown Australian made smallgoods company had a bad contamination scare a few years ago.
Yep and also with regards to the cheeses it's not necessarily how it's made but how it's stored after it leaves the factory. So whilst they may test fine in the factory during travel may not be as stringent or the recipient of the goods may not store correctly etc.
Some great advice in this thread. Loving your work girls.
PZ yep it is mostly the rice, I know a girl who used to go to her local and request her sushi was made with fresh rice, so the owner/chef would let her know when he was making a new batch of rice and do it that way.
I remember being told by my GP if you're unsure don't do it. If you can't trust an establishment because you don't know them or they don't look clean then don't eat there. Don't eat out of bain-marie's, buffets or at someone's house if the food has been left out.
TBH I think a lot of what is recommended is a lot like Bath says common sense, and if you've done any kind of food handling course you'll know that this is how we should all act around food, pregnant or not.
I dont do the cold meats (only ham in a toasty) or soft cheeses BUT I have had a tub of Taziki (sp?) dip with carrott sticks and I have also eaten my fair share of Maccas lettuce! I also have a glass of Iced Coffee Ice break milk evey morning - I feel off all day if I dont (had to have the same with DD too) and I will have a glass of coke with tea most nights!
Did someone say no cola? Ooops. THAT's my craving! Sitting here with some right now!
I also read somewhere raw mushrooms were a no-go... oops had them last night and the night before for dinner!
We have a bain marie at work, and it basically comes from the kitchen to our kitchenette, where we serve it. I've eaten from it....
Huh? I have never heard of no cola!
I know it is generally considered to be 'unhealthy' but I have been drinking diet cola about once a week, as is usual for me.
We need to chill out and enjoy our pregnancies, and if that includes eating what we want, then so be it!
I wonder if that's what they said in the 60's when huffing on a cigarette and sipping on a martini.
Like I said commonsense is at play. If you drink 2 litters of coke a day it's not going to be good for you pregnant or not but when you have a life growing inside it's probably best to ask yourself "am I being healthy". A glass of coke is not going to harm the baby, nor is a glass of wine. But if you are doing anything that is unhealthy in excess it's common sense that it's not good for either of you.
And stressing over every little thing probably isn't good either ;)
oh i wouldnt worry, i had soft serve ice fream both times and it was gooood
IRT cola, it's just the caffiene. As Rouge said, chugging bottles and bottles of the stuff is not good regardless of being utd or not :) Moderation is the key, pregnant or otherwise, too much of one thing is never good. And yep, commonsense has to play a huge part too when consuming food.
yeh why is it we cannot have soft serve ice cream when we are preggers? is it because its made from pigs lard? (or is that a fib?)
Ja, it's not made with pig's lard.
It's the fact that the machine doesn't get cleaned every day, and he bacteria that could possibly breed in there.
I used to work with a soft serve machine and we drained and scrubbed it weekly....but that was still a LOT more often than most busniesses do.
hehe... pig's lard.
Cola drinks: I'd say it's a bit more than the caffeine though. Coke etc are a pretty worrying ****tail of chemicals... the anti-vomit additive to counteract the 10 teaspoons of sugar springs to mind. But don't mind me and my personal war against the black stuff.
I eat ham occasionally, i've also had sushi, soft cheese and some other things i should probably avoid. I knew i was taking a risk, but i guess at the time i decided it was worth it. I am also craving cola drinks?!
BUT i do think saying 'i had X,Y and Z and my babies are just fine' is a bit of a red herring statement. Sure you and i might have run the risk and not got listeria. But the fact is that contracting listeria is a very real risk, and if you do your risk of a spontaneous miscarriage is high, something like 50%. Yes, Listeria is very uncommon in Australia, but it does still exist.
I absolutely do not judge anyone for what they eat, drink or choose to do, but felt the need to point it out, just so people don't get the wrong idea and are taking informed risks.
ETA_ Bath is that true?? Does Coke have an antiemetic in it????
Junglemum: according to an article I posted in the "What Effect Drinking A Can Of Coke Does To Your Body". But I haven't researched that exact chemical or the truth behind it. The leeching of valuable minerals like calcium and zinc etc from a pregnant woman's body when she drinks cola though is probably of greater concern.
I cut down on my coke intake when i was pregnant and the first thing i wanted after giving birth was (after of course DD) a can of coke!!!
I love that stuff, it makes me high, but yes i did avoid it during pregnancy though.
I have MAJORLY cut down on my diet coke intake over the years....I used to drink a couple every day but now have less than 1 a week...the caffiene hypes me up too much since I stopped drinking coffee!
I tend to go for it when it is hot/pub weather though becuase I don't drink booze anymore (before I was preg).
In all 3 pregnancies I live by the rule of moderation. I only eat/ ate fast food where I worked or knew someone that worked there that would answer all my questions honestly (eg when was that last cleaned? Can I have the salads from the back fridge? When is the use by date? etc). You would not believe how many fast food chains (and even small cafes) neglect the simplest of health and safety regulations (including using product well beyond its use by date.
Soft serve comes down to how often the machine is cleaned, if its a reliable machine (not constantly crashing?going into heat treat mode) and if it is being put back together by someone who is capable. I have worked after some nitwit has put the machine together and part of a glove has come out in the machine due to someone leaving it in the barrel.
I usually drink coke zero but since being pregnant I have avoided it because of the asapartame that's in it. (I shouldn't drink it even when not pg but I do!!)
When pg I just stick to coke BUT in saying that, I don't feel like it much when pg anyway which is a good thing!! I might have 2 glasses a week approx..... mainly feel like water or tea/coffee.
Well I just had another ham sammich and ate it without guilt. I think the guilty one tasted better though :-P (only becuase I had to take a break in this one to poo for the first time in 4 weeks, and couldnt scarf the sammy down all at one LOL)
Shanti - I am the same with my drinks...have just wanted LOTS of ICEY water.