Parenting after LT TTC #4

No time at all atm, but i wanted to say to Green not to feel guilty about your decision. As long as you feel that it was your choice and you and bubs are ok, then don't feel guilty. Heck, everything we do as mums can make you feel guilty :wall: and we shouldn't. It's hard sometimes when things don't work out how we thought, especially when you TTC for so long too. That's why we have this thread :lol:

We have a house full of colds and I'm sleeping at night with DS2 holding him upright so he can breathe. DS1 sneezed so hard this morning and so much came out that he gave himself a fright...and it's SUMMER. Imagine what winter is going to be like.

:hello: to all

green - i second lenny's comments. what a good mum you are! being a mum means making decisions that are best for baby... and by the sounds of it you've made the right choice. Don't feel guilty at all. Okay, ideally he would be loving the boobie but that is not the case and it's your job to find an alternative that works for you both... and good on MIL for the big hug, I"m sending you one now too love. You should be so proud on what you've achieved and how hard you've worked to get him this far. But neither of you should be full of tears at dinner time oxox

just a quick one here today too. Ash seems happier now i'm not forcing the feeding so much. once he's off and if he's upset i offer again once and when that's refused but the boobies away. But his lunch feed today was only 5 mins... the last min of which he spent looking up at me smiling, sucking, smiling, farting. lol. They are the moments i live for.

BG - i looked up soem wonder week stuff... i really think that may be what's up. he did another huge crying fit last night and promptly passed out once i calmed him. he is also noticing a lot more around him.

Oh Green I so feel for you, Campbell is lactose intolerant. We had the same thing but he was almost 2 when we found out. When you described your night I almost cried as I am going through the same thing at the moment. Xavier has terrible wind from both ends and was up half the night. We will see the pead next week who also happens to be Campbells pead so knows our family history and hopefully he can offer some ideas. Bad I know but I have him sleeping on his tummy with his legs curled up under him this helps a bit. Anyway his lordship is calling so must go.

Hey Green, don't feel bad you gave your little man a good old try with the booby and you have now made a decision which you feel is the best for him. That's being a great mummy in my eyes.

Just a thought with the formula option for you, Tara is on Karicare De Lact formula so it is lactose free but everything else is the same, I'm not 100% convinced on Soy Formula myself as you hear so much stuff about the hormones etc. You can only get the De Lact from Chemists but I've found it is actually cheaper than normal formula. Just another option for you, but if you think soy is the way to go then you go girl.

Hi everyone else, we are just back from Mothers Group evening where all the dads came along to have a meet up as well. Of couse Tara decided she would show off again by not just rolling onto her tummy but also trying to get onto her back again and when that didn't work she decided to do a face plant and then tuck her legs under her bum and lift off. Geez, this girl is so going to be on the move before I know it, either rolling everywhere or crawling.... Oh, I'm also seeing a baby modelling agency tomorrow to get some stuff to see if it is something Tara might be able to do. May as well get her out earning her keep :lol: the way she is growing it is costing me a fortune to clothe her and there is so much more to come :rolleyes:.

thanks for all your kind words, HE SLEPT and so did I last night. :leap: feed at 10 sleep at 12 up at 2 sleep at 3 up at 5.30! OMG I slept!

Linc still has wind but the doc said it'll take a week to get all my milk out of him. :( oh well it's obviously better for him and me OMG I SLEPT! :leap:

KellyD I looked at that formula but pead said soy. not sure why. Might have to ask him when I go back, cos I agrea I'd rather give him the lactose free formula. S26 does one too why did you choose KariCare?

my work got refunded without even doing a tender :leap: so Now I feel better extending my leave (haven't informed my boss yet) oh well no reason why not now. Also got some more tafe hours (when DH is home) so all the cards are lining up. Love it love it.

OMG my boobs are huge and sore and leaking! MIL is comforting DS when he's crying cos it's so sore to have him bouncing on my chest. Sling is still ok though.

Have a great day. I'm off for a coffee and a catch up with my assistant (time to think about work again).
:D

Hey Green, the paed in hossy told the midwifes to get Lactose Free formula for us and they got the Karicare one, so have just keep her on the same all along as it is what she had from the start and I didn't want to change as she didn't have any trouble with the Karicare one.

And a big YAY for you and sleep :clap: hopefully now you will feel a bit sane although you now have to wait for your milk to dry up. Are you expressing to help ease the discomfort and to make sure you don't get any blocked ducts or mastitis. I pumped everyday when my milk was going and gradually after about a week it got less and less until it was all gone away..

:dance::dance: yay for sleep miss green, way to go little linc..
as for the boobies hun i have always been told DO NOT EXPRESS your milk as your trying to get them to dry up ,i was told wear a very tight bra try not to let hot water run on them in the shower and to drink coffee aparently coffee halps dry up milk ? worked for me anyway lol.. but if you keep expressing the milk will keep building up again :rolleyes:

any way thats my tips hun ,and again yay for you and linc.

If you express and empty the breast, then it will take ages for your milk to dry up. If you only express enough to be comfortable, then all will be ok. It's recommended that you do it that way to avoid mastitis.

Unfortunately, for me... I never had to express at all to be comfortable, there was nothing there!

BW

Hmmm I rang the medi help line they said don't touch, no hot water and tight bra. But how do I know if I'm getting mastitis? no blocked ducts, I checked, had one of those OUCHY.......

KellyD I rang the Pead to ask and cos he got way worse when I ate milk products he may have a cows milk protein alergy which is still in the lactose free formula but not in Soy. Glad I know now. I trust doctors but I still like to know what's happening and why.

Funny vision of the day ladies. I got out of the shower tried off lent over and felt a drip drip on my arm. I though "were is that comming from I dried off" it was my boobs. :lol: bra on stat. DH thinks he's going to massage them tomorrow night I THINK NOT!

Have a great day.

Hi Green,

I used cabbage to take off the heat and swelling off the boobs.

Hi girls,

Working from home today. Boss so good to let me work from home... but kind of make me want to do more work to make up for his kindness.

Kelly, Tara will surely be crawling very soon.

Murph, wow big move.

Hi everyone else.

AFU we are doing well though I wish Lyla would be a bit more interested in food but no matter as long as she is happy and healthy. I think I've got a climber on our hands. Lyla has started climbing onto things now. She climbed onto our bed the other morning using the pile of pillows I left at the foot of the bed. Got DH to quickly tape it. I was so scared that she would fall but the girl used ever mean to get up onto the bed.

Take care everyone. Must make effort to reply because it appears that when I find the time to reply others have beat me to it.. I do enjoy reading your posts though.:p

:) glad you got some rite ansewrs green hunny, i always thought why would you keep exspressing if your trying to dry up milk ?? as this would just keep the milk building up lol..any way after 5 kids this is what i was always told .so im glad you rang someone hun,and yes cabbage leaves are also a really good thing to take away the heat ,they really do work to :) your boobies will be very sore for a few days hun trust me even under your arms it will feel very sore but they will start to feel better each day
luv to you hun

hun ive just thought of another trick that makes boobies feel better might sound silly but DOES work hun
if you have a couple of face washers seriously put them in the freezer layed out stright till they freeze then put them inside your bra to make boobies feel better thats what they told me to do at hossy
and if i remember you can actually go to the dr to get drying up tablets too
if the pain gets to bad take a couple of panadole too hunny

Green, keep an eye out for lumps if you're not going to express at all, because mastitis is a killer. If you get a hot, red lump and/or flu symptoms, then get yourself to a doctor.
If you're concerned about soy formula, the other option is the neocate-type prescription formulas which are completely broken down to base enzymes (or...er..something like that) and are suitable for babies with allergies (without dodgy hormones in soy)

marcellus I'll talk to my pead about it cos he doesn't seam to think soy is an issue but it's my choice isn't it.

No red lumps and boobs are less hard and hot. But Dolly parton alert.

Last night Linc was so good 7.20pm till midnight. I slept 8.30 till midnight. :leap: then 1-4pm then 5-6 then 7-8. What is this feeling ENERGY :D

But he's blocked up and I don't know what to do. Smithy what worked for Charlie?

I've done the sugar water since 6pm feed yesterday and deap bath and massage, but no shift, loads of pushing and I know it's getting to him.

DH is on his way home. Can't wait for cuddles.

Oh linc is now not enjoying sleep during the day. He wakes up after a cat nap has a play another cat nap etc from 8-4pm feed last two days. But I guess this is the right time for fussy sleep isn't it.

Hey Green

Always the way, you get one thing sorted and then something else. Hopefully Smithy can help you out on the poo issue, seems his little body is trying to adjust to the formula.

As for the cat naps during the day, they always seem to go through cycles but you need to now remember he is sleeping longer at night for you... meaning he doesn't want to sleep as much during the day and at certain times he will sleep less as well.. 5-6 weeks of age is the first "Wonder Week" when he is starting to get his sight in so he is probably going to be awake more during the day as this is when his senses are stimulated most.

Good news on the Booby "front" ;), but keep a look out for any signs of not good things.

Kahlan: Good to see you drop in.. eekkk a climbing baby already...move everything to the top shelf, go do it now. And thanks for the heads up about Tara crawling, just my luck a baby who wants to be on the move too soon. Isn't it funny we always can't wait for the next thing to happen and when it does we are not prepared for it, but seriously these babies who want to do things before they are supposed to (Lyla & Tara) haven't they read the books :D

Hi to everyone else...

Could Tara being growing again??? What with all this sleeping at night (about 13 hours) she is now pretty much only awake during the day to eat and then is back to sleep. So far today she has been awake for about 2 1/2 hours total since waking at 10am. Or maybe she is sleepy from having a full tummy as I give her solids at both her breakfast & lunch meal along with a bottle. Or maybe she is just an afternoon awake baby as she seems to be awake from about 4pm in the afternoon until her bedtime now around 8-8.30pm. Not that I'm complaining at all, I suppose I should take my own advise "it is a cycle she is going through".

Green just wanted to let you know what we are doing and have done in the past.

Raise the end of the bed and change table.
Sleep on tummy with legs tucked under. (I know totally bad, I try and do it only during the day when I am awake but sometimes it is the only way he will sleep. We also have a motion monitor, so no movement all the bells and whistles start.)
Infants friend, you get it from the chemist and boy is it working. Was at the shop yesterday and his farts we so loud people were looking sideways at me. But before this all that wind was trapped in his bowels.
Chiropractor, when are paying off our chiros morgage this is how highly I recomend it. Xavier was all jammed up in his intestine area and his bowels hopefully the adjustment will help releive some of the pain.
As for the soy if this is a permanant thing, like Campbell. He will have to encounter soy as he gets older. We have sourced soy alternative for lots of things, like icecream and yogurt. It becomes a life style thing. I do get some funny looks when I order a soy babychino.
Oh when Campbell was on formula I always added an extra 10 mls of water then recomended to help stop him from getting blocked up.
Hope this helps, but what I always say to new mums and I did this with Campbell was listern to the advice and then do what works for you.

Hope everyone is doing well, I am a bit tired today got one boy back to be at 6 only to have the other one wake up at 6.30.

Hi Green,

Great to hear you are getting more sleep. About Linc having problems with his bowel movements. How long has last done it? Formula can really change a baby's habits. Formula fed babies could go for days without passing anything. Lyla is formula fed and don't normally pass anything for 3-4 days without being constipated at all. However, if Linc is having problems, first thing you must try is water and lots of it. Give him 10-20 mls every hour or. Good luck. You are doing a wonderful job by the way.

BW - how is Sam? How are you holding up? I was very heart broken when I first returned to work but it gets easier each day and I always look forward to seeing my LO at the end of work.

Kelly, yes, I wasn't prepared to buy walking shoes for Lyla until she is over 12 months but had to order proper shoes the other day. She found it strange with the shoes and prefers to sit, pull her feet to her face and mouth the shoes instead :doh::doh: but is loving every chance she gets to practice walking and climbing though. I believe Tara would probably be the same because she is doing what Lyla was at the age. so be prepared my dear friend. I see in your sig that you are planning for #2 in Jan 2011. We are planning that for late 2010 or early 2011 so never no we might be having our second one at the same time and be belly buddies.

BG - how is Miss E, any new words or should I ask whether she is giving you sentences? Lyla clapped her hands today... I think. I picked her up from Family Day Care and she suddenly clapped her hands. She doesn't do it on command though so can't say that she understood "clap your hands".

Murph - I know Queensland is under flood at present, are you affected by it in anyway. Thinking of you anyway.

Grub - how are you doing? Ash's is so cool

Saph - take care of yourself hun.

To everyone else, hope you have a peaceful and relaxing weekend.

Kahlan, I'm really touched that you remembered us and asked how we are going! I've been slammed by work and life this week... A man I used to work with (didn't know him well but he was only 25) died suddenly and his funeral was on Wednesday. Had another man in our church pass away on Tuesday morning (cancer, but still quite sudden and unexpected, he was struck down by an infection) and his funeral was on Thursday. I wasn't able to go to either, so have been feeling fairly sad about that. Throw a nasty situation with a problem student on top, needing to set four tests in the next week (and the horror of marking soon to come!) and I'm just ready to crawl under a rock and hide from the world for a while. But we keep plodding onwards... I just don't get much time to read BB, let alone reply at the moment. Makes me feel a bit lonely and isolated, so it really was nice to be remembered and asked about! :)

Anyway... Sam is going fantastically. I was starting to get quite worried about his apparent lack of speech (especially when I hear about the super-advance miss E so often! :)) But all of a sudden in the last week he has suddenly started repeating sounds to us when we speak to him. It's coming along! He just loves having DH at home and gets to spend a lot of time "helping" daddy maintain the back lawn... He's got a real thing for carrying around random objects and yesterday he chose a broom. A full-size broom, not a toy broom. Unfortunately it caused him to trip and he's got a nasty bruise on his beautiful face, lots of tears last night (from me, too!) but doesn't seem bothered by it today. He's also getting more into the swing of daycare, too. I dropped him off this morning and for the first time I managed to leave without the sound of him crying his little heart out following me to the car. One of the carers took him to the other room to show him some baby chicks. Apparently that was pretty cool, but when he looked up and saw me the tears started again. But I'd already said goodbye so I just stepped out of view and watched him turn straight back to the chicks and stop crying. He seems to love daycare days now - apart from the drop off!

Green - when it comes to FF babies and poo... Sam was an every 4 days like clockwork baby. We stressed a lot about him being constipated and we tried all the tricks, but nothing worked. Then we stopped and thought about it - when he did poo it was still soft, so it wasn't constipation. He just had a 4 day poo cycle. You could just about predict to the hour when he would poo, though! I know they say that FF babies should poo every day, but Sam pretty thoroughly proved that one wrong! When we changed to step 2 formula and introduced solids he slowly moved to once per day. As long as his poo is soft, then don't panic if he doesn't go every day. Is that enough poo talk yet?

Ugh! We have some seriously inconsiderate jerks living over our back fence now. They like to play their music way too loud and we are frequently assaulted by doof doof doof constantly. They've just started up and it just gets way too stressful to stay in the study with that going, so I think I might go turn on a fan (helps make the doof doof less obvious if you drown it in a gentle hum) in the bedroom and try to get some sleep. And I've just remembered that it's Friday and I need to take my methotrexate and that will knock me out pretty thoroughly anyway... but if I don't take it soon I'm likely to spend most of the weekend feeling dreadful.

Good night all, and sweet dreams!

BW

Hi everyone, I have finally gotten the guts up to post in here, it still feels really surreal for me and I just can't quite believe my luck that I finally made it here.

I also wanted to celebrate my lovely new Avy!!:dance:

Will take some time to get up to date on where you are all at so will be reading between feeds and will be back once I know what is going on.

Love to all xx