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Oh poor little man Lenny! :hooray: for your mothers' group friend.
Hope things are better with the poos Green.
:hug: Janie. It's really hard. I'm sure she'll settle in just fine, but when they get sick all the time it's bloody awful!
A pox on teething!
Hi everyone else
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Amen to that! Feral teething toddler here - hunger striking and complete with toxic teething poo... ugh!
BW
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Green I had a VB with a cut because of the scar tissue from Campbells birth. I was cut with his and had a third degree tear. I have had 2 lots of antibiotics and burst my stitchers. The oestrgoen cream seems to be making it more irritated. What to do, will leave it a bit longer and then call OB.
I have to have a little complain. We went privately for both our boys births. Campbell ended up in intensive care so was therefore admitted to the hospital, his medical bills were ciovered by our health insurance. Xavier even though he was prem did extremely well and was not addmitted to hospital. I have just recieved $600 worth of paediatricians bill for the 10 mins that he spent with us and also recieved $700 worth of pathology bills for the 2 of us. So not impressed.
Sleep what is that, well we had a good night last night. I got 10 til 1.30 and then 2.30 til 5 and then 5.30 til 8. I am just so lucky that when DH is not here to get up to him, Campbell will play quietly on his bed until I get him up. Must be off to cook dinner.
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Ouch! Those bills are nasty! We went private for Sam and didn't pay a cent for the ten days that Sam was in SCN, nor a cent for the ten days that I spent in the same hospital as a patient as I told them I wasn't going home for Christmas without my boy (I fully expected to go home after Christmas, but they then didn't talk about sending me home until Sam was ready to go too). How premature was Xavier, Saph? Sam was a 36-weeker.
Sorry, I lie - I did receive one bill - a pharmacy bill for the haemarrhoid cream I needed. Pathology for us both was covered.
BW
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BW he was a 36 weeker as well, Well almost 37 weeks but they all kept telling me he is doing amazingly well for being prem. This was my dream birth, an hour labour and straight up onto my chest for a feed, ( not a great feed but one all the same.) We got to cuddle whilst the ob did the cord blood storage and then I had a hemorage ?sp so they started working on me for a while but I still got to cuddle him. Campbells shoulders got stuck and he had a terrible delivery and didnt breathe. He was intubated and taken to ICU before I even got to see him. They almost sent him to the childrens hospital here but luckily we only ended up on different floors not different hospitals. But I now have my 2 beautiful boys and the huge bills, terrible blood loss and sore bits are all worth it.
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:hello:beautiful friends.thinking of you all
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Hope you get some more sleep Smithy :D actually I hope we all do
Saph :hug: ouch that sounds awful, here I am cursing my little ouchy. I hope it works soon. Also your baby and my baby are almost in sinc. I got 10.30 to 1 DH got up but I fed, 2-4.15 (resettle up at 5) then 6-8. :D good night. Also since DH is home Linc is not so screamy at wake time little bugga must like his dad changing his nappy more than me.
Hmmm last night was awful and wonderful I craked it a bit during the day after linc wet the bed 4 times (boys ahhhh) so I rang DH for some support he was awful and said "you wanted him you can't give hime back" OMG I almost changed the lockes when we got home we had a huge fight but it did clear the air. and we're on track again. Funny how now linc is better I feel worse I guess it's all about survivol.
I got out heaps today and DH looked after Linc although he slept most of the time.
Any tips on sleeping when we go out? He slept on me (not always ok)
He's better in the car :dance: but I need to put the dummy on a bungie cord so I can find it while driving.
Hate the capsual and will be buying a car seet soon. Thank god I borrowed one.
Work rang and I need to drive 1500kms by the end of the month :doh: what the with a new born, so off to Victor Harbor and the Baby Expo this weekend Oh and Voting (fun) NOT.
Off to the Hosp tomorrow to see if little man has kidney reflus but I don't think so.
Oh we're back to pellets :doh: so back on all the sugar water and stuff, I'm going to speak to the pead on a lighter note though he didn't scream at all even though it was mega solid.
But we had a windy day. Bring on 12 weeks..............
Oh I forgot to add I found out why (I think) Linc was hysterical after his 5am feed, he wants to be up. We DH DS and I had a cuppa (bottle) in bed for an hour and right back to sleep :) happy mummy and not over the top screaming DS. So it seams for now 5am and 5pm are our awake times (an hour or more) but the rest of the time he gets cranky or falls asleep at 30mins (I wonder how long for)
Have a great day all :D
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Hmmm... All this loading up babies with sugar worries me. Will he take cooled, boiled water from a bottle? It's something we did with Sam very early on (it was a nasty hot Summer when he was born) - cooled, boiled water in a bottle and if it was hot and he wasn't settling he got offered water over more milk. If he woke up too early (which was usually because it was hot) we offered a bottle of water and he would take a few sips and settle back to sleep.
Now we have a toddler who is happy to guzzle down water and we have no issues keeping his fluids up. Just a thought - pellety poos are often (and I'm judging from my own digestive system here, not Sam's!) from not getting enough water and I've heard of it happening often with formula-fed babies that they just simply need extra water (offered as water, not added to their formula bottles).
Last time I ran into a friend of mine she was giving her 9 month old boy water with cordial added as he wouldn't drink water without the cordial and he was born with only one functioning kidney so it was really important that they keep his fluids up. I would hate to have to do that, and I somehow feel that giving babies sugar-water now could lead to that further down the track.
I know it's hard to think beyond an immediate solution when you're in the midst of trying to help a constipated baby - have been there so many times before!
I hope that doesn't all come across as a lecture - just a concerned parent trying to help out others from my own experiences.
I was also never really fully comfortable giving Sam prune juice until he was older. We stuck with coloxyl drops in his bottles until he was about 7-8 months and now the preferred constipation remedy is watered-down prune juice. I told him once that it was black drink like mummy's and he's never tried to snaffle my coke since!
Meanwhile, we have the opposite problem here. Sam's cutting a molar or two and is off his food and producing some fantastic nappies for DH. Yesterday he was into his 3rd nappy for the morning before we even left at 7:45 to drop me off at work. The look on DH's face when he opened a nappy to find liquid poo barely held in by the leak guards was just priceless! Panadol, brauers teething relief and brauers stomach calm seem to be getting us through and while his poos are still more frequent and runny than normal, he's doing much better and is actually eating food again. After two days of virtually hunger-striking and only finishing about half of his bottles if that, it's a huge relief!
Work is hell - I won't go into the details, but there's been several floods of tears over the last few days and I'm seriously OVER some students and some of our executive staff! I never expected to be treated so much like a new teacher when I was returning to the same school after a year off.
BW
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BW I totally agrea Linc will take water and I offer it especially today when it was so warm He woke up so hot, on with the AC. I stopped the coloxyl dropps and have started them again. I don't like any medication but I guess they are designed for babies :( just wish she wouldn't be constipated really.
The only issue with the water is he wont take it after a feed so I'm offering it before and wondering if that's filling his little tummy and not letting him eat as much ??????? so many questions.
All the parenting lines recomend the sugar water and when I phoned yesterday they said stop the drops before stopping the water??????????? but I'm sure if I rang again I'd get a different answer. There really is no RIGHT answers is there.
I've been googling different formulas and am wondering if the prescribed formula is less likely to cause constopation? Sounds like a good reason to get my pead to write a script and gett my little man off soy. Seeing Pead in a week will go with my LIST.. I'm sure they're used to it.
No Prune juce either didn't work so why keep going. but will use at 3+ month if needed. Let's hope not.
Also I read somewhere that your baby has your bowl movements? in that case he's probably always going to have issues. Poor bugga I need mega fiber in my diet.
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i will second the cooled boiled water - took DD a while to take to water, but now she is fantastic. if we go anywhere she has her sippy cup and will drink when she's thirsty - when it's hot, she will drink more to make sure she doesn't dehydrate - she will even take herself out to the kitchen and let us know she wants it - at nine months. she will happily take water over prune or pear juice (we tried when she was going 10 days between movements - she wasn't a fan!) - personally, i would think it's better to get your bubbas to have plain water...
not a lot else to say at the moment - i'm really struggling emotionally as i've made the decision to return to work next month and it's starting to hit me that i won't be with my girl all the time. it's not a nice feeling!
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I can certainly see some merit to your baby having your kind of digestive system. Mine's slow and sluggish and Sam's tends to be as well. Poor bugger is going to have a lot of heartburn issues when he's older, I guess!
I try not to use coloxyl or prune juice too often. I guess I look at it as a case of there are some things that you use to get things moving... and you don't necessarily want to be doing those things all the time to keep things moving.
I guess my gut feeling on the sugar water is that it's the sugar making it more palatable to the baby so that they increase their water intake and it's the water that does the job... I just can't see how sugar can have a laxative effect on babies when it doesn't do that to adults.
Is it possible to offer water between feeds? If he's only taking a few sips of water at a time I can't see how it's filling him up and stopping him drinking enough milk... I can also understand not wanting to drink water after a big drink of milk. Do you go feed play sleep? How about water after play time and before going back to sleep? I think that's how we did it - but I mainly remember the first 8 weeks where the heat was such an issue for us (we moved to a cooler house when Sam was 8 weeks old), if Sam was awake and not due for a feed, he got water - and he'd never take a huge amount, but it seemed to do the trick. We offer water if he wakes during the night now, too. Didn't start doing that until he was about 6 months old - before then it was milk, but after that point it was water and it seems to have kept him happy.
Anyway, I must dash. I do hope that I haven't come across as lecturing and I certainly don't want to make anyone feel guilty - I guess with an older bub, it's a bit easier to think about the long-term consequences and not just be so focussed on getting my poor baby's bowels moving again!
(and the teacher in me never really stops!)
Must go get some work done - urgently!
BW
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ooh, on another note - when your kidlets are 6 months, try giving them prunes as a snack. they make my tummy turn, but E loves them - and when she eats them every day or two, we have no dramas with her getting backed up!
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:hug: Green. They probably recommend getting off the coloxyl first as it can cause dependence in the bowel, creating even more problems down the track. Trying another formula might help - definately get some advice from your pead anyway.
It is really hard to know what to do because, yes, you do want to be wary of him filling up on water, but on the other hand hard poos are not good... I am surprised the parenting lines recommend sugar water. Anyway, really hope you can find a solution that works soon. Take care and get plenty of rest while your DH is around
I've always had issues and need lots of fibre too, but DS is fine, so don't know about that theory.
Ugh, I hate teething poo. DS has been doing it on and off for months now. Those 2nd molars are causing trouble but not about to actually break through...
Hey Saph, we had lots of bills too for pathology and other stuff - guess we didn't have high enough cover. I'm going public next time (hopefully through the publically funded midwifery program here). I figure it's free and so long as all low risk will be looked after by the same set of midwives throughout, rather than seeing a OB who only pops in at the very end of the labour.
Sorry you're having work dramas BW
Hi everyone else
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Thanks for all your thooughts. I guess the first two months are the hardest esp going from My milk to Soy. I know it's going to take time and it's only just two weeks. But passing hard stools isn't good either.
So much guilt. and I second the work worries too Brigsy. I'm going back in June (was going to be april) and I'm already crying :cry: But life goes on and I'm sure Linc will love child care and Nanna time. DH will do a day too, so a good social mix.
Ok enough of me talk. :D
Oh not only did the parenting line say sugar water so did my GP. that's why I did it, I never would have before.
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Green, go with your instinct. My paed insisted that I start Sam on solids at 4 months. I refused... He demanded that I get Sam eating meat at 6 months - but he refused. I didn't stress about it, I just followed what seemed to be the right thing by me and Sam. Sam eats meat now, but he wouldn't really have a bar of it in any way shape or form until he was about 9 months old. Just wanted to throw that in there to show that doctors aren't always the experts - you know your bub better than they do!
As for bills - I think it depends on the agreements between the hospital and the health fund. We have minimal cover and had every cent of 10 days each in hospital paid. I'm starting to think we really got lucky!
Anyway, got my work done - time to crash. Wish I had time to talk about the complete mummy rejection stunt that Sam pulled this morning... Going back to work is hard, and in some ways it doesn't get easier as you keep going either - but then my opinion is probably a little biased at the moment due to horrid work experiences at the moment. Nutty kids, end of term, and a deputy principal I could happily toss into the lake and never see again. :wall:
BW
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:lol: just wanted to share my girls first real smiles.
YouTube - DSCF4544.avi first smiles
way too cute lol..im so proud :lol:
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Just wanted to give you all big hugs... especially BW, BG and Green. I feel your pain with the work situation as am in the midst of it myself at the moment. I'm lucky that work itself has been great and really busy to keep my mind a bit distracted from missing my girl. But it is all new to both me and Jasmine. She is doing much better this week as she is finally over that cold - and now I have it! Nevermind, I would rather be sick than watch Jasmine in pain any day.
Re the sugar water - I know that when my sister's baby (born at 24 weeks) was in NICU they used to use sugar water on a dummy as pain relief when they were taking bloods etc... not sure about the laxative effect at all, but they used it a lot as a pain reliever.
Better run as just on my lunch break. One good thing about being at work ladies is looking forward to those big beautiful, heartfelt cuddles that your little one gives you when you see them at the end of your day.
Janie and Jasmine xxx
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hi all,
can't add anything to the sugar water discussion but i go by the motto - trust your instincts and whatever you are doing, it's probably right :) And each baby is different so what works for one won't work for another.
as for work. i also wanna hug you girls struggling. I know how fortunate i am to stay at home until ash is 11 months old and even then due to a probable posting across the other side of the country, I won't be going back to the workforce for sometime :) But there is that yearning to have that interaction and get back into it. it's so tough being a woman sometimes isn't it!
smithy don't you just live for those smiles :)
afm - had a good bday yesterdya. DH got me a new camera for my nappy bag so i've been stalking my child lol my mum's group had a st pat's morn tea and it was heaps of fun. we all get along so well it's lovely.
Ash didn't feed well. seems he's easily distracted... typical male! lol. but he again slept 9pm to 6am :)
ox