Pregnancy after Miscarriage or Loss November 2009

Just wanted to quickly pop in say Hi!
Been a bit busy with my own stuff, IYKWIM.

Bonham: Im so glad that ur news is reassuring and optimistic, im staying positive for your upcoming tests and results. :)

Cherished: You're nearly finished your first trimester, crikey time flies. :D

Smallfry: Not long now.............do you think you'll go early, on time or later than your due date?

Thanks to Possums for dropping by too, very thoughful. :)

Well, AFM. I had my antenatal appt on Monday (every 2 weeks) and the nurse told me quite bluntly that I was too small and hadn't grown since last fortnights visit which was a little worrying. She then told me I was breech and said she couldt find a heartbeat! Can you imagine how I felt lying there alone, being told by some ignorant cow that there's no heartbeat?!? Devastated was an understatement! Anyway, she sends me home.....NOT TO HOSPITAL!! I immediately take myself into my Doctor who is 5 mins away (I actually work for her too!) who did an immediate ultrasound in her room.......baby was head down, with a lowish heartbeat and of average size. My doctor was not worried but ordered a repeat anatomy scan for the next day (she has had a stillborn daughter herself and is very understanding to say the least).
I should also mention I had not had as many FM, mainly I thought due to the heat here and being slightly ill from it, but after the midwife scared me to death I started to wonder.
At the scan Harper was kicking around, sucking her thumb/fist and playing with the sonographer as they moved across my tummy. There was certainly no lack of FM from there on in! She was still head down, with her bottom near my left ribs, and her legs extended over to the right. She is not small either!! She is measuring in all aspects a week and a half ahead. YAY!! Her heart........perfect!! It wasn't low anymore, and I was right to think it was low and she wasn't moving about as much because I was unwell. She was likely resting during that time. She is 2kg as well.
All in all, its been a harrowing start to the week, followed by a slow grateful descent to reality. I also cut the tip of my finger off last night, almost bleeding to death! I carried on like a child..........birth is going to finish me I think!

Thanks for listening :)

sunny - oh my goodness!!! Someone should sack that woman!!! I'm glad you went direct to your doc and had everything confirmed as being A-OK! Were you cutting onions when you sliced your finger? That's how I always do it.
I'm going to be asking my ob to induce me either the day before my due date or on my due date (went over with both previous). Long story but it involves shared custody and fears that my DD1 has about what will happen when I have another baby. She seems to think she'll be seeing less of me and I have to make sure that having this little one does not interfere at all with my time with my two daughters. Much as IV induced labour hurts like mad and is very unpleasant (had to have that with DD2), it will set my mind at ease... soooo, not sure how the ob will react to this request on Monday morning but I'm hoping she understands and is happy to go ahead with it two weeks later. I guess Monday 22nd will be an internal to see if anything has started yet and perhaps try the gel and Tuesday (due date) break waters if possible and use a drip if nothing else has started up. Getting very very close now and I'm starting to wonder if I'm at all ready for it all to happen again yet.

wow - its been busy in here and there seem to be a few approaching the due date!

Smallfry - good luck with the request, hopefully they will be understanding. I can't see why they couldnt do it on that date for you. I'll be buying my belly cast soon and doing it at about 35wks

Sunny - WTF? You poor thing, how horrid to go through that! I freak when zen hasn't moved yet in the mornings and give a big prod lol. I'd be writing in a complaint about her.

Cherished - yippee to not throwing up and nearly being in trimester two!! how exciting!

Bonham - despite having a regular cycle etc I was still out by a week with my dates so that sounds like good news! Keeping fingers and toes crossed for you that you see your hcg rising like i know you want.

Sparkles - thats what this forum is for! to vent all the 'silly' feelings that are not silly at all and are completely understandable...your talking to someone who has had six scans so far lol

Twin sister - i hear you on the no energy...I dont have a tot to run after but just going to work everyday does me in!

Dory - you should put your ticker on - its great when you post in here and watch it move. In the TTCAML thread you just need to scroll down slightly into additional options and untick show my signature

Hi also to Elise and anyone else I have missed...I can't see any more names :doh:

AFM: my braxton hicks are still uncomfortable and DH says it means Zen is gonna come early! Hope not since bub was still breech position last week. I'm officially in the third trimester and counting down :o
I'm just loving all the movement although it makes it hard at work as it takes my focus away from my job cause it is WAY more interesting lol
in my belly buddies group there has been talk about the 'fear' of labour...I've decided to go with denial and just cope with it when I absolutely have to :)
:bellyrubs: to all the yummy mummies!

Tina, there is nothing to fear in labour, I know it is normal to be scared, but truly it is a wonderful experience :) Have you heard of the book "birthing from Within"? Awesome book to help prepare you for birth :)

Sunny... OMG that sound like a hell of a time you had! So glad you went to somone compitent to help put your mind at ease.

Bonham, it's quite normal to O late after m/c... can take a couple of cycles for your body to get back into it.

Not much happening here... 12 weeks tomorrow and still feeling queezy.. but that's good :) Not long now til I feel definate movements (I sometime think I can feel something already but very occassionally).

xx

Hello Lovelies,

I've been a bit quite last few days but i've been lurking.

Sunny - you should definitely put a complaint in about that b#$%h how dare she be so uncaring and WRONG!! So glad you had someone to go to who could put your mind at ease.

Bonham- I was wondering if bub's can show up as smaller because they implanted later than we thought. Obviously with IUI they know exactly when we O but the dates can still get shifted so I wonder if implanting makes a difference, just a though.

Smallfry- How exciting bub could be her in a very short while.

AFM-:leap: I have the hugest smile this afternoon. My HCG is up to 282 (from 40 on monday) which means it has doubled every 34hours :dance:

Hey gals.

Sunbeam - that is FANTASTIC - you go good thing. Big sticky vibes.

Bonham - that's reassurring. Stick in there.

Cherished - good to hear no puking! You must be going for a record here. What a relief it must be. I am not a puker it seems, but incessant and intense nausea instead. Although today is a good day.....

Twinsis - the antihistamine used to surprise me too, but I had a friend who went on a cruise ( he's a dr) and he said he was given antihistamine for sea sickness. It's funy on the days I feel really sick, I also feel like I am going to sneeze. It's a very weird feeling. I am just glad that you can get some relief.

Sparkles, Pssum god to hear from you.

TinaR - You know labour? It's not all that bad really, well it wasn't for me. There are some challenging bits, and the contractions and crowning can be painful, and teh after pains, but usually on second and subsequent deliveries. For me second time around the afterpains were more challenging than the labour. But there are ways you can get through this, both natural and pharmacological. I imagine when it is roughly at the time it should be, your body and mind work together? I hope I get to find out this time. But remember, the little miracle that you get to hold at the end of it all, is simply just the best. Even when it all happens too early and there is no hope, like has happened to me twice, having to labour in heartbreaking circumstances. In my book, you just can't beat the feeling of birthing and then nursing your precious little one. Just pure magic. And the weird thing is for me? because it all happened so early, no birthing education or classes. The midwives were amazing, and my ob. I am so glad I got to have my ob for my first delivery. Really helped me with the second when I didn't have him. It's kind of amazing too, just how intuitive you can be about the process. First time around I had an epidural and the second de nada. The epidural made some time for DH and I to come to grips with what was happening to us and there was this amazingly beautiful and peaceful time where we were just together, with no pain. Second time around, the pain was a bigger feature in my psyche, and also in the aftermath. I was pretty wrecked so it took a while to be able to have the energy to nuture my little one. But the good part about that? As out of it as I was, DH nursed our little girl for the entire time, when I think about that I am just so proud. Because first time around, we were both so scared, and he was almost too scared too nurse her, and second time around it was so good to see him there, nursing our girl, like an dab old hand and as a very proud, but sad Dad. e also bathed her, which I couldn't do. I am so proud of DH. So I guess what I am trying to say, is you'll do what you think is right for you. There are things to help and the end result is just simply amazing. You will be fine, I know this in my heart. You are a strong woman and you have eons of knowledge behind you of the women who have gone before you.

Smallfry - the potatoes were great. Thanks for the tip. I even did one in its jacket when the oven was on and had it today reheated with some melted cheese. Oh my, it was so delicious.

Chuckie - hope that scan went well and you are enjoying your holiday......

AFM - well no more bleeding! YIPEEE. I have been enjoying the rest, but I have to start thinking about what I am going to do about work. That is so hard to think about at week 7 but my ob is pretty convinced I need to take it easy and this week has certainly scared me into a very real consensus with the ob. It's hard to know what to do, because there are psychological benefits to working ( takes my mind off things is the biggest, and maybe some sense of self worth) but I suppose I have to decide how important this pregnancy is to me, and whether I want to do everything I can to make it stick. If I think about it like that, of course the pg comes first. It's just so confusing. The reality of another 7 months "resting" is pretty daunting. oh well I will get there. I need to make a decision soon.

Take care girls.....

Evening ladies sorry i dont get in very often to post ive just been so busy and havent had any time. Ive been lurking but generally by the time i catch up on everyones posts i dont have time to reply.
Sorry i dont have time for persies again today, i started writing replies to everyone and my internet restarted so ive given up.
AFM i had my scan today, measuring 11w4d and everything is looking great. Was so funny to watch, when the guy first put the thing on my belly bub done a huge big jump. Then s/he was very well behaved and layed extremely still for measurements and photos. He took it off and put it back on my tummy to do one final measurement and bub went crazy, jumping around like a jackrabbit hehe was so cute :)
I am now feeling far more positive and have to say too that the ms has settled down a lot, which is great.
Will try and get in more often to do some more personals but i hope you are all doing well
Talk soon :)

I wrote a huge post last night and when I logged on this morn I discovered it wasn't there - grrrr! I will try to remember some of what it said.


Dory - what a daunting prospect - giving up work at 7 weeks :o !!! It sounds great in theory but gosh you would be bored by the end of it! - You are right though you have to do what ever it takes to make sure you have a healthy bub and if that is what it takes so be it!

Sunbeam GREAT NEWS - you must be really relieved - here's hoping those positive signs keep rolling in :dance:

Sunny - what a stupid, ignorant woman :shakehead: - like you need that sort of stress now! You should try to do something so she doesn't do that to some other poor woman!

Tanya - it must be really reassuring when you start feeling movements - no need for scans and panics all the time!

Bonham - Sooo releived that the news is sounding more positive, will keep thinking of you and :pray: for you.


Smallfryplus - the belly cast sounds great - good idea to get an artist that knows what they are doing to paint it to - then you can have it in a prominent spot.

Cherished - I know what you mean about being able to tell everyone - soo annoying!!!

The scan went GREAT!! At first it felt all too familiar when she was struggling to find anything :o and I had to get an internal (although she did say she was feeling optimistic) Also she said I have an inverted uterus - anyone else have experience of this and the implications for scans as I was planning on having one every couple of weeks until the 12w one (the dr has a little machine in his office) but I don't want to panic myself unecessarily if we can not see the heartbeat due to my uterus.

Anyway - back to the scan - with the internal we saw it straight away and there was a little heart beating at 118 :loveshower: and the bub was measuring 6w 1d which was pretty close to right so we were thrilled! As soon as she said she saw the heart beat I burst into tears - the poor woman - I was just soooooo releived that we were not going through another blighted ovam or similar AGAIN!

Chuckie I hear you on the bursting into tears thing. I had a male techinician and he looked a bit taken aback when I started to cry when he said there was a heartbeat! When the probe went in and I didn't see anything I thought that it was a blighted ovum again and then when he moved it around and my little blob appeared I was thrilled! HR was 111 BPM and blob was measuring almost spot on. I didn't quite believe there was actually a baby in there til I saw it myself!

Chuckie, ive had 4 scans so far for this pregnancy, and for each ive always cried before going in (for fear of bad news), whilst in (nerves), and then on leaving with my good news (because ive had good news). I do stop getting teary during the scan, but once that heartbeat shows and my girl sucks her thumb and kicks the doppler i'm a smiling crying mess!! My sonographer is used to me now, she's the same one who diagnosed my miscarriage last year, so knows me well!
Im so happy you can cry with good news darl! :dance:

Hello everyone!!

Sunbeam - lovely to see your HCG numbers bumping up so well! :clap:

Bonham - I have my fingers crossed that sticky vibes keep coming your way - there is such a strength in the way you deal with what is happening

Cherished - huge congrats on reaching the (apparently a dream LOL) second tri - it is a lovely relief when you can look an omelette in the face again - your scan brought a smile to my face - I remember Tiger Two (DD's name for our second one) running rampant from the sonographer - he loathed scans

Twinsis - glad to hear things are warming up for you - layers must be awkward at times!

Sparkles, Kirsten74 and Possum - it is lovely to see people jump in with support from the ether - it makes it all the more special :D

Dory - it is good to hear your scare has settled - I've had a few friends who have had - god help me on the spelling - haematomas (?) caused by illness (excessive coughing) or ms that rips muscles - the bleeding is external to the baby and placenta - but it all causes a hell of a scare - sorry you had to go through it - I hear you on the work front - I know I was stressed to the max and run down when I had my mc in 2008 - and I had to face the reality that it was necessary for me to scale back if I was going to give myself and the bub a good chance at a good pg and birth - I went part-time (not an option for everyone though) and it helped immensely on my sanity and health fronts - is it possible to engage in a different, calmer job part-time to stave off boredom???? I understand financial situations don't always support us when we need them to. I'm probably a lot more disorganised than a lot of people - I found there was a huge amount of house stuff that really, really did need doing - esp. 2nd time round when I KNEW how little time there would be to get stuff done - lots of little creative projects that kept getting relocated to decorative boxes - I still haven't finished sorting out my office from when Joss was born last year!!! :wall:...

Chuckie - wonderful news on your scan - hope the hols are bringing sweet relief! Eliselouise85 - kudos on the great scan too!!! I cried with the heartbeats too - esp. the first time I heard it in the pg - had the same sonographer for my mc and the next pg with DS too - how weird is that??? It must be really challenging for u/s staff faced with the tragedy of lost bubs and the shock it often comes as - I knew my bub was gone before the 9 wk scan but it was still hard

TinaR - I will always give thanks to my pg yoga instructor who said two invaluable things to me - one, this is the only pain you'll feel for a good reason and each contraction needs you to surrender and open to it, to breathe through it with good long breaths (and lots of deep breaths in between for good oxygen to stave off tiredness and for bub) and two, in your mind keep seeing the baby as a beautiful flower of light with each contraction an unfolding petal that you need to allow to unfold, to let the contraction happen to do this - sounds a little flaky but every time I wanted to tighten up or hold my breath - I kept remembering what she said. Second thanks always goes to my first midwife who said "Open upstairs, open downstairs" - that you don't have to make noise if it's not you but that a tight mouth kept things tight - again with the good breathing :lol: She was also the one who kept me moving and off my back - I haven't given birth to a bub yet that didn't do a tour of the house first to get here! I won't tell you about my second wonderful midwife who had me whinny like a horse to shift a lip of cervix!!!

Sunny09 - OMG - there is no emoticon for the absolute fury I feel at the negligence and callousness of that excuse for a caregiver who apparently is meant to be providing you with antenatal care - how dare she deliver any of that diagnosis based on just her own observations - without getting a second check (it is often challenging to find heartbeats with some bubs in different positions, even for experienced caregivers) and the manner in which she delivered it is appalling - sweetheart - I pray you never have to get that woman again - it is up to you whether you feel it is OK for you at this point to consider a complaint or not but know that she richly deserves one...:shakehead: I'm pleased you had other more compassionate and considerate people to rectify the damage.

Tanya - it is great to hear you so full of confidence and going well - it is one of the great joys of this site and our forums :D

Smallfryplus - I wanted to do a belly cast but wussed out and a talented girlfriend of mine instead did some beautiful pg photos au naturel in the canefields and waterfalls up in the mountains for me - they are such fantastic reminders of this incredible journey - it will be fantastic to see your cast - I'm hoping we might see it in a BB gallery one day??? Hmmm?? I did full plaster casts of both DD and DS hand and foot when they were a 100 days old instead (not the imprint ones, the stressful 'wait till they're asleep (we think) and jam their appendages into cold moulding gel, hoping they don't move (much) and then pour in plaster' casts - the finished product is so worth it though!!!)


AFM - in the time it has taken me to type this - had to rescue DP who had been poked in the eye with the corner of a storybook which drew blood and a few words we don't need to repeat; DD has been totally distressed by her accidental wounding of dad and flown to room after injuring DP; DD then managed to glue very resilient bandaid into hair which had to be cut out; Joss has been BFing in lap - but now have actually finished something today - probably first thing :redface: - so ladies thank you for this wonderful capacity you have and the inspiration and support you give each other and all the other wonderful women looking to embark on this journey :clap:

Enjoy the rest of your weekend!!

And yes, with lovely long posts I have the insurance policy of emergency saving it into a word doc. first before I post and then I post!!! Just for those who, like me, have experienced post-posting failure... (Is there a pill for that yet??)

Much love
Karen van

Hello everyone!!

Sunbeam - lovely to see your HCG numbers bumping up so well! :clap:

Bonham - I have my fingers crossed that sticky vibes keep coming your way - there is such a strength in the way you deal with what is happening

Cherished - huge congrats on reaching the (apparently a dream LOL) second tri - it is a lovely relief when you can look an omelette in the face again - your scan brought a smile to my face - I remember Tiger Two (DD's name for our second one) running rampant from the sonographer - he loathed scans

Twinsis - glad to hear things are warming up for you - layers must be awkward at times!

Sparkles, Kirsten74 and Possum - it is lovely to see people jump in with support from the ether - it makes it all the more special :D

Dory - it is good to hear your scare has settled - I've had a few friends who have had - god help me on the spelling - haematomas (?) caused by illness (excessive coughing) or ms that rips muscles - the bleeding is external to the baby and placenta - but it all causes a hell of a scare - sorry you had to go through it - I hear you on the work front - I know I was stressed to the max and run down when I had my mc in 2008 - and I had to face the reality that it was necessary for me to scale back if I was going to give myself and the bub a good chance at a good pg and birth - I went part-time (not an option for everyone though) and it helped immensely on my sanity and health fronts - is it possible to engage in a different, calmer job part-time to stave off boredom???? I understand financial situations don't always support us when we need them to. I'm probably a lot more disorganised than a lot of people - I found there was a huge amount of house stuff that really, really did need doing - esp. 2nd time round when I KNEW how little time there would be to get stuff done - lots of little creative projects that kept getting relocated to decorative boxes - I still haven't finished sorting out my office from when Joss was born last year!!! :wall:...

Chuckie - wonderful news on your scan - hope the hols are bringing sweet relief! Eliselouise85 - kudos on the great scan too!!! I cried with the heartbeats too - esp. the first time I heard it in the pg - had the same sonographer for my mc and the next pg with DS too - how weird is that??? It must be really challenging for u/s staff faced with the tragedy of lost bubs and the shock it often comes as - I knew my bub was gone before the 9 wk scan but it was still hard

TinaR - I will always give thanks to my pg yoga instructor who said two invaluable things to me - one, this is the only pain you'll feel for a good reason and each contraction needs you to surrender and open to it, to breathe through it with good long breaths (and lots of deep breaths in between for good oxygen to stave off tiredness and for bub) and two, in your mind keep seeing the baby as a beautiful flower of light with each contraction an unfolding petal that you need to allow to unfold, to let the contraction happen to do this - sounds a little flaky but every time I wanted to tighten up or hold my breath - I kept remembering what she said. Second thanks always goes to my first midwife who said "Open upstairs, open downstairs" - that you don't have to make noise if it's not you but that a tight mouth kept things tight - again with the good breathing :lol: She was also the one who kept me moving and off my back - I haven't given birth to a bub yet that didn't do a tour of the house first to get here! I won't tell you about my second wonderful midwife who had me whinny like a horse to shift a lip of cervix!!!

Sunny09 - OMG - there is no emoticon for the absolute fury I feel at the negligence and callousness of that excuse for a caregiver who apparently is meant to be providing you with antenatal care - how dare she deliver any of that diagnosis based on just her own observations - without getting a second check (it is often challenging to find heartbeats with some bubs in different positions, even for experienced caregivers) and the manner in which she delivered it is appalling - sweetheart - I pray you never have to get that woman again - it is up to you whether you feel it is OK for you at this point to consider a complaint or not but know that she richly deserves one...:shakehead: I'm pleased you had other more compassionate and considerate people to rectify the damage.

LittleOnes – I understand what you are saying about your older child – DD was acting out a lot before the bub was born – we had to have a lot of quiet night talks about loving, sharing, the birth (it was fairly dramatic as she was going to be at the birth as well) and what a wonderful big sister she was going to be – moved a lot backwards and forwards in terms of being excited, having a lot of trepidation – but when the birth and the baby came – DD was amazing – we got the baby to ‘buy’ her a special present (just for being his big sis) that the baby ‘gave’ her when he was born to make her feel special – it is hard because you want to be supportive of your older children and at the same time do not want that to happen at the expense of the baby or younger children – the incredibly difficult job of parenting I suppose…

Tanya - it is great to hear you so full of confidence and going well - it is one of the great joys of this site and our forums :D

Smallfryplus – brava on the belly cast – I loved the idea but wussed out – it will look epic when you have it painted up esp. with the contributions of your little ones – my talented girlfriend took beautiful pg pix for me instead – in canefields and waterfalls – both times in winter, bloody freezing but at least skin tone would have been good LOL

AFM - in the time it has taken me to type this - had to rescue DP who had been poked in the eye with the corner of a storybook which drew blood and a few words we don't need to repeat; DD has been totally distressed by her accidental wounding of dad and flown to room after injuring DP; DD then managed to glue very resilient bandaid into hair which had to be cut out; Joss has been BFing in lap - but now have actually finished something today - probably first thing :redface: - so ladies thank you for this wonderful capacity you have and the inspiration and support you give each other and all the other wonderful women looking to embark on this journey :clap:

Enjoy the rest of your weekend!!

And yes, with lovely long posts I have the insurance policy of emergency saving it into a word doc. first before I post and then I post!!! Just for those who, like me, have experienced post-posting failure... (Is there a pill for that yet??)

Much love
Karen van

:redface::redface::redface:

Sorry about the double posting - BB appeared to kick me out when I posted so I didn't think it went through so I posted again - I discovered I had missed you LittleOnes so the second post at least is a bit different - sorry about clogging up the thread!

:wall:
Karen van

hi gals, me... I've changed my user name from smallfryplus. Long story.

Karen van - a truly inspiring effort with your post! Especially with all the dramas thrown in while you were typing it!
When the cast is completed, I'll see if I can work out how/where to post a pic of it up here. I'm sure it will be pretty cool! I want to do hands and feet as well once bub is born. Will have to track down the casting kits or ingredients at any rate.

chuckie - great news re the heartbeat and the scan results. That's fantastic!

Sunbeam - woohooooo!!! I'm so pleased about the HCG levels rising!!! YAY!

eliselouise, dory, kirsten, sunny, tanya, tinar, who have I missed?!! I know I have missed but I'm glad to see that everything appears to be going really well for everyone and that the baked potatoes have been good! lol

xox

Thank you all so much for all your kind words and Karen van thanks for the info. My stitches are great and the only bugga is my hormones are saying BD but cant yet. Poor DH. I wonder how long you should weight.

Cherrished I'm glad you scan went well

Glad to see all of you are doing so well.

Lincoln is being a baby beatuiful but normal. Feeding three hourly ish. Settleing from great to dreadful (thankgoodness unsettled is during the day)
I baught a sling which he loves to put him in during his awake but shouldn't be time 11am feed till 6pm feed the other day poor man was so overtired and mum was a mess. But yesterday in the sling asleep in 2 minutes and let mum eat tea with the family (first time ever) :bluecheer:

Being a mum is all consuming, and BF makes the rsponcibility even greater. I find myself watching his every suck and checking to see that he is attaching well.

DH has been a star, although he goes back to work tomorrow and It'll be interesting to see how he copes with the broken sleep. although he does go right back to sleep when I'm feeding Lucky DH.

I'll try and keep up with all yoru good news.

Love to all :grouphug:

Ladies - I might write some more later tonight. Just wanted to drop in the say hi and tell you, another day closer to our dream. Be strong.

Bless little Lincoln - he gives us hope. Hope his Mum Geenslw is going ok with sleep deprivation and baby blues.

Hi Ladies,

So happy to hear everyone is going well on their journey, I have read a few scares but happy that everything is well again :clap:

Havne't been on in a while ms is a b*tch, not complaining i swear, but honestly who ever said it was MORNING must have been male, me and my ms should be DLS - day long sickness!! Not pleasent at the best of times, but put in the mix that I'm a teacher of 24 4-5yrs 5 days a week, study at tafe 2 nights a week and trying to plan a wedding!! Being sick is not fun, again not complaining I swear, the sicker I feel the more happy me and DP are that this baby is going happen!!

Last HCG level last week - 95 1 wk, 7103 2wk 32000 3wk - Very happy with the results!

Will be lurking in the background making sure everyone's little bubbies are going well!!

HPL - we do get a lot of teachers on this site and most of them seem to be all trying to juggle mountains of stuff LOL - do you reckon its the job or the personality :o) Good luck with everything and I hope the DLS chooses to settle a little more for you in terms of just visiting rather than staying the day out!

Much love
Karen van