Double Pram Dilemma!!

Hi All,

I've been doing a fair bit of double pram research, and I am a little annoyed by the lack of availability of double side by side 'jogger' prams which allow for both a mother-facing bassinette & an outwards facing toddler - simultaneously.
The Mountain Buggy double and Adventure Buggy double look like great quality prams, however you only have the choice of having either 2 bassinettes for newborns, or two outward facing seats - great for twins, but not for a newborn and toddler. I know that these prams do accomodate for a newborn, but I had DS face me in bassinette mode in the early months and I loved it. Even now his pram seat is still reversable and we change direction quite regularly so I am accoustommed to this function. I don't like how the MB & AB prams don't allow for this option.

So I have started looking at European prams - and they have so much more flexibility!!
No doubt they are expensive and would cost a heap to ship, but I am really desperate to purchase a double pram for outdoor use which has the following features;
- Large 'jogger' front & back wheels (4 wheeler for stability as the pram will be wide).
- Takes a mother-facing newborn bassinette at the same time as a regular pram seat (preferably both reversable so you can change the direction of either.)

I have looked at the Firstwheels twin, which has the option of taking both bassinette and a regular seat - each reversable. However the front wheels are small, there are limited colour options avail in Aust and there are 2 small baskets underneath instead of one large basket - not really very convenient for stashing larger items.

Other European double jogger prams which take a mother-facing bassinette simultaneously with a regular stroller seat (that I have come across) include;
- Emmaljunga Twin Cangaroo (Sweden)
- Easy Walker Duo (Netherlands)
- Teutonia Team Alu S4 (Germany) - this one can even reverse the direction of the older bubs/toddlers once they are sitting upright in stroller mode!

So I guess my question is - does anyone have one of these pram models and can you give me any recommendations/pros and cons? I would love to hear some feedback!!

Cheers for reading my essay...:D

I guess these prams are hard to come by in Aus... as I feared. Oh well.
I have written to Mountain Buggy and Adventure buggy - saying that they need to work on an updated model which offers the above features, so that we parents in the southern hemisphere can enjoy the same flexibility as parents in the northern hemisphere!!

Have you looked at 'phil and teds' ? i'm no expert but i have a friend that loves hers!
good luck on your search.

I saw a pram the other day which had the bassinette with the toddler facing forward, I'm almost certain it was a mountain buggy (at least it looked like one - unless there's also another pram which looks really similar) because I was looking at them before Elijah was born but we didn't end up getting a double pram at all in the end.

how come come you can't have one basinette in the mountain buggy?
i've actually got a mountain buggy but didn't bother with the basinette, but i thought for sure that it was a possibility if you wanted to.

Try Baby Jogger. They have double prams and you *may* be able to attach the bassinet with one stroller side still facing forwards. We have the City Elite single pram with the bassinet attachment and you can clip it in with the normal stroller seat attached or detached.

Good luck!

I had something like first wheels (Bertini Mio) in the single, and i wanted the first wheels but it wasn't avaliable at all in Australia when we needed a double, but i never had a problem with the front wheels (its like a bugaboo), but that being said, i never test drived it as a double.

Look at Oo (i think?) otherwise PM me, they have free shipping and i think it is $400 all up for the double, which is pretty cheap for a double pram. Doesn't come with basinette, just the 2 seats, but as you can make 1 seat horizontal, from experience you don't need the basinette, iuts just 1 extra bit of baby junk to have around.

We have a double mountain buggy pram with a forward-facing toddler sear and a bassinet. It's a great pram, very easy to steer. You need to buy the bassinet part separately (they call it a carry-cot) and installing it is fiddly, because you have to take out the fabric part of one of the seats, but once it's installed, it has quick clips to take it out and use it as an actual carry cot. And it fits through a standard doorway, which is another plus.

We've been very happy with it.

Does the Double Mountain buggy have a sunshade for the forward facing when you've got a bassinet in it? Cause they all look like it gets taken off when you've got the bassinet in?

Unfortunately no, the sunshade for the toddler seats comes off.

Thanks. Even without the sunshade it seems like the better pram Ive seen so far.

So hard finding a pram where the littlie can face you and still have a toddler in it!

First wheels twin city :) But it may / may not suit your requirements.

what about the icandy pear? i *think* it can do the reverse thing...hmmm goes off to investigate...

actually i got it wrong...the one i was thinking of is the bebecare vector duo...looks great for the baby/sibling situation...

I love my Emmalunga pram (although it's not a double)... but I wouldn't buy one if you had to fold it up and put it in your car on a daily basis. Emmas are EXTREMELY sturdy but with sturdiness comes weight. My Emma is also bigger allowing more room than your average pram. I have seen double Emmas on Ebay. I imagine buying one new would be expensive. But I can vouch for their quality.

Thanks so much for the feedback guys.

Michael - that's good to hear. I wonder why the Mountain Buggy website does not advertise the fact that it takes a mother-facing bassinette with a forward facing toddler simultaneously?
On their website it only advertises that the double can be used with either 2 bassinettes (carry cots) or one extra large 'twin' carrycot - but not 1 carrycot and one seat.
They also only show pictures of the pram with the carrycot for 2 - or the seats for 2, but not the carrycot/toddler option - which led me to believe that it must not be an option!
Now I'm totally confused....:doh: Bit of a bummer about the sun cover needing to come off the toddler when carrycot is attached. I had wondered that also.... Probably not much of an issue in New Zealand (where the pram is made) but certainly not a good option if you live in bright sunny Perth!!

Bathsheba- I did look into the Emmaljunga Cangaroo double - it does look like a top quality pram. But like you say, the downsides were that it was expensive (sigh) and a bit on the heavy side. The German Teutonia Team Alu Duo is the same.
So now I am down to Firstwheels, EasyWalker Duo or Mountain Buggy (without hood/cover for 6 months or so....).

Yael - Thanks. I did come across the firstwheels twin on the oo website. Awesome price - but its a bit of a bummer that it is only avail in the red and the black. They have so many beaut colours......:lol: I contacted the head office in Netherlands to see if I could order accessories directly from them and unfortunately they don't provide that service - it has to be through one of the local distributors. Don't suppose you know somewhere else in Australia who sells a broader range?

Cassius2 - Thanks, I will look into the bebecare vector duo.

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