Just wondering as TTC is taking us so long, yet I have strong +OPK result, so thought it could be possible that the hormone surge is there, but the :egg: isn't getting where it needs to be waiting for the :bluesperm: ? Any thoughts?
Would love to hear any relevant experiences!
thanks,
LMM :)
Hello LMM,
I can't say much other than it is not likely you would have an LH surge and no O. Whilst it is possible, it is just not likely. DO you temp? Your temp rise should show that you have O'd. Even tracking CM and other signs, such as cervix position can tell you whether O has happened or is about to happen. It is very confusing I know, but there are a few things we can do to get a good idea of what is going on. Blood tests are the best way to more accurately indicate ovulation, but a thermometer by your bed and daily charting is the next best thing.
Good luck hun
Thanks for your reply Dragonbub :)
I am charting and temping. Had a positive OPK a few days ago and have had EWCM for a week. But temps are doing a sawtooth pattern - basically going from 36.3 to 36.0 and back up and back down... !! Fertility Friend also says that O hasn't been detected :( I'm on CD18 now and usually O about CD14. Have jut realised my temps are usually climbing steadily by now, seems like something weirs is going on.
The only thing you mentioned that I don't do (and don't really understand) is checking cervix position.
Do you think any doctor might actually organise regular blood tests for this purpose? I am starting to feel like I'm wearing sunglasses at night!
Thanks again...
LMM
x
LMM what ended up happening? Did you actually O?
Your situation is the same as mine this month. I am CD18 without a temp rise as well. I had a good week of fertile CM and O pains (as late as yesterday) but my temp has remained at 36.3 or 36.35. By now it'd be much higher. I'm really baffled.
Cheers,
Kat
hi Kat :hello:
once my temps rose two days in a row (about CD 20/21), FF marked CD18 as O day on my chart. But then when temp dropped slightly the following day... FF actually changed my O day, saying it was CD16! I have never had that happen before (and am a little skeptical I have to say). Now I am on CD26 and temp has gone up up up last three days. Feeling exhausted but not cranky, which is unusual for me at this stage of my cycle... so fingers crossed!
You can see my chart here:
2f430a Ovulation Charts
Will be interesting to see what happens for you. Are your cycles usually fairly consistent each month?
LMM
HI LMM ... :D
Looking at your chart I'd say CD18 was your O day. Your temps are quite rocky. I'm assuming this isn't usual for you either. At CD26 its great that your temps are still up there. FX for you.
I've not had any drama's since I started charting in February. My cycle is usually 28 days (give or take a few) with O either CD 14 or CD15.
I was really concerned that I wasn't going to O at all this month.
Thankfully my temp finally went up today, CD19. I have been sitting on 36.3 / 36.35 for most of the week. Today it shot up to 36.8 so I'm happy about that.
I'd have to agree that O was yesterday as I had stabbing O pain on Thursday night. I'm not sure if I should be concerned about the stabbing O pain though.
Cheers,
Kat.
hey Kat,
Great to hear that your temps are up now :) I don't noticeable get O pains at all... would love that extra indicator! I know, it was a terrible feeling thinking that I might just not O at all this month...
my temps are usually a little bit rocky...but not as much as this month! I have only been charting temp for roughly 3 months, so I am definitely no expert.
But I think if you are right and O day was CD18 for me, we may have missed the eggie this month... as we only BD'd on CD 15 and then were apart for a few days :( but we'll see soon. I am thinking I might even test on Monday morning if my temps haven't dropped much by then. Otherwise, keep going as usual until late Sep when we are off to see the FS.
got my fingers crossed for you!
LMM x
My timing wasn't the best this month either. I kinda gave up. We BD's fantastically when I was meant to O but got slack after that.
My temp is still 36.8 today which I am really impressed with.
I don't usually get O pains either (maybe a niggle here and there) but I had really bad pains this time around. I wonder if that means a large healthy strong egg. Just my luck that I get a really good egg and I gave up BDing.
Fantastic that your temp is still up. I hope that it stays that way. Good luck for tomorrow morning!
Cheers Kat.
OOOOOOOO!!!!! One I can maybe help with. I just bought a 3-pack of FR, and it came with a fertility test. It's not an OPK, it's a test you take on CD3 to see if your body has the follicle stimulating hormone in it. Check out First Response® - Fertility Test For Women for more information.
According to what I read, it will tell you if you have enough FSH to mature an egg for ovulation. If you don't, you won't have any eggs available to ovulate even with the LH surge. So if a negative FSH test, no need to check OPKs that month as you won't have an egg either. And as you only test on CD3, you only need one a cycle.
So, if you have either no FSH or no LH surge, you will not O. You need both, but that still won't guarentee that you will ovulate either - the temp rise will be the best indicator of that that you can do at home.
Ummm... this is all just research though. I can't remember well enough to temp daily... I have not had AF since my IUD came out last month so no chance to try OPKs yet (I might in a couple cycles if I don't get UTD by then), and I will likely use the Fertility test my next CD3. :) But I've done a LOT of studying on all this. ;)
Thanks for the tip Buggzter! How nice of you to do all that research for us :)
I think AF is on her way :( :( so I won't be able to try the fertility test out this month.... I would have to order it online as I haven't seen those around and I live in a country town. I am off to the FS in about a month anyway. Best of luck to you with getting UTD quickly!
Have my fingers crossed for you Kat, all sounding promising with your temps so far. I know what you mean about BD on demand... it gets a bit much sometimes! Just counted, and this month now makes 15 we have been TTC. It's getting a bit draining, but I am going to try and stay positive!
LMM x
LMM I hope that AF stays away.
I'm still confused about my cycle. Temp still up but 36.6 rather than 36.8. I'll guess I'll reflect when this month is over.
we decided to TTC in Feb 2009 I have been seriously trying since January 2010 (charting, temping etc). Prior to Jan I really didn't know what I was doing even though I thought I did, if that makes sense. Also I have not been using BCP in years but just avoided the danger period. So it's been a while for me too.
When I first read your message I thought you said you'd BD'd 15 times this month - OMG can you imagine that !!!
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Buggztez that product sounds great but I've never seen that product in Australia nor have I ever heard any of my friends talk about it. I'll check it out though. I gather that FL means Florida.
So frustrating - so many things that are spoken about are not availabe in Aust.
LMM are you in Aust?
hey Kat
I think your temp still sounds like it's in a good range. What day are you now? Haha, yes, I can imagine DTD 15 times ;) we used to be like bunnies (but not really anymore!)
I'm very confused here too! I'm on day 30 now, started getting what I thought were AF pains on Sunday night... but still no show. Pains again a little tonight and I seriously never have pains days before getting AF. I also had a change in my CM a few days ago and then significant temp drop today. Really at a loss as to what's going on - two pregnancy tests have been neg :(
Hit a point today where I just bawled! Frustration and confusion and a sense of helplessness just got the better of me. But I have calmed down now! And decided I am going to go get some acupuncture/massage to try and get my cycle regular again. I found shiatsu and chinese herbs fantastic when I was doing that regularly. I just thought I was back in a good balance now, but apparently not. Yes, I'm on the sth coast of NSW... what about you?
LMM
LMM I just looked at your chart again - so sorry to see that AF turned up. A good cry will always make you feel better - it does for me.
I agree with you going back to do Acupuncture. I've been doing acupuncture and herbs for 7 weeks now. I really enjoy it but haven't noticed any changes yet - I'm just trusting that it is working.
Have you heard of SOY? Do you use the forums on FF? I noticed a number of women talking about SOY and then on the weekend I found a forum dedicated to SOY - there is a dedicated Acupuncture forum too so you should have a look at it.
Apparently SOY works like Chlomid, you take it several days in a row before O. According to the women who use it, taken CD1 to CD5 it will increase the number of follicles and taken later such as CD5 to CD9 it will increase the size and quality of the follicle that will erupt. I'm going to try it next month as a lot of women are reporting success. I'll ask my Acu on Saturday first to make sure that it won't affect the herbs that I take.
The only Soy I can find is Blackmores PHYTOLIFE (sold to ease Menopause symptoms). The ingredients are Soy and Calcuim so neither will harm us. You shoud have a look at the forum on FF.
Yeah if we were TTC when we first met - 15 times would have been a breeze. Now it just horrifies me!
I'm a Brissy girl but I've been living in Melbourne for the last 7 years.
AF sucks. Be kind to yourself!
Thank you Kat, you are very sweet :hug:
I am a Melbourne girl originally, only been in NSW since last year.
AF definitely came back with a vengeance... I had nightmares last night and then woke up in a sweat with intense pain and there she was :(
But at least I am at the start of a new cycle, I feel relieved that AF was only a day or two late in the end. Now I can start afresh.
Yes, I have booked in to get some acupuncture on Friday :) looking forward to it. I think i will try one more month doing my usual things (EPO, preseed, OPK's, charting etc) and adding the acupuncture. I figured out today that my first appt with FS is the day before my next period is due. And if she recommends Clomid I think I will just take it!
A couple of years ago I wouldn't have thought my future self would say that, but I am just ready for the next stage.
Anyway thanks for the encouragement and I really hope you are making some sense of your cycle now and temps are behaving. Let me know what your acu says about the soy... I did a bit of reading but had conflicting reports. Sometimes I really think it must just be up to our future children rather than us... and all the tiny details we get bogged down in!
LMM x