Confused and Generally peeved.. I need some Guidence... I think

I am dearly hoping anyone here can help me. God knows my OB/GYN isnt.. grrr

We lost Matthew at full term back in Feb, and the only reason I am going to this OB is he offered his services after informing us (in his grief) that had he been given the oppurtunity, he couldve saved Matthew.

Ok so not long after, my husband and I decided to TTC, not to replace, but for many other reasons. We informed MR OB about this and we went on to examine every bit of my cycle and set out a plan of attack. His goal was to get me pregnant ASAP. We only tried natural for 5 months and then he placed me on Clomid. which I have been on since.

Now, I wasnt getting any follicle ultrasounds or blood tests to check ovulation. I only learnt they exsisted, from lurking around belly belly lol. So upon enquiring at his office, I was given a Blood test (CD21) the month before starting the Clomid. Came back with a level of 36 - he marked this as PERI ovulation???? Now I thought there are three stages, in order: Peri, OV and POST??? have I got this right?

But I couldnt be sure of anything because I wasnt charting anything so I didnt know any better. Well, after a full round of Clomid and a :bfn: I started the next round on 100g Clomid. I also "enquired" again, about tests. This time I got a follicle US on cd14. Results were right ovary didnt have many follicles (3-4) but one main dominant one of 1.8cm and left one had 7 - 9 with 2 dominant ones about 2.75cm. Rang the OB, the girls tell me, "Everything is fine, all normal" oooooookkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyy!!!

Symptoms and OPKs told me I was ovulating (some of you saw the pictures) on the 19th - 20th october (ccd18 & cd19) Temp was also up each day (and hasnt really dropped) 37.3 - 37.6. As of last night temp was still 37.1.

Blood Test last friday (cd21), rang the office last night to get the results. She tells me "good news, your levels are up to 41.3 and its PERI??? WTF????? I did choose to argue with her at this time as I know a little more (Thanks Belly Belly) and she said she would get it confirmed today. I have been poas opks every day for the entire month, just to make sure I had the right day for ovulating. And with what I know now, with follies that size back then??? I would hate to think what size they are now if I am PERI..

I am hoping someone has some answers. I really thought this was my month. I know it isnt over till AF arrives, and we are into the last 7 days of the TWW. But I really felt good about this month.

To top it off I have been diagnosed with post traumic stress disorder. Relating to the Labour and death of Matthew in Feb. I dont know how many emotions one can take.

Your Friend... in need.

Tess

I don't know about clomid and follicle tests but I just wanted to say I'm so sorry for your loss of Matthew. I think if your ovulation tests showed positive and you dtd then, then you have a great chance of this month being yours.

Don't worry about symptoms , my last pregnancy right up until the moment I tested, I didn't think I was pregnant but I was. No symptoms at all this time round.

I really hope this is your month !!!!! And hopefully another lady will be able to answer all your clomid q's.

Thank you mum2romone

I am on the same page as you. dtd when those hormone surges hit is the best chance we have had in 8 months.

Having a "moment" over the last 24 hours still doesnt stop the feeling of this month being the month for us. I hope so.

What day is best to start testing??? I am 7dpo. 10 or 11dpo??? and is morning wee the best time to test?

Lady Tess I'm sorry for the loss of your little Matthew. :angel:
Are you comfortable with this OB because I'm getting the impression that you are not feeling a strong sense of trust and understanding with him and his staff. Maybe have a think about that, or maybe it's just a case of crossed wires.
A note to you and other parents orphaned by their children - there is no need to explain TTC after losing a child. You conceived your son because you wanted to share you life with another child, to watch them grow, to love them through the changes from baby, to child, to adult. Your son was born, was loved, will always be remembered. But because he passed away you were robbed of the opportunity to be with him as he grew up. It's totally normal to still want those things, even though sadly you will not be able to share those experiences with Matthew. :hug:
Hoping this is the month for you :crossfingers:

Hey Lady Tess!! What is your average cycle hun? Mine is 29 days, and I always thought I ovulated around day 14-15 but on the cycle I conceived Cam, I O'd on day 11 or 12 I think from memory. They told me to start testing on day 12 (I did IVF so had to time it to perfection) but luckily I got a gut feeling to test on day 11 and it showed the positive smiley face for O!!!! So had I started testing on day 12 I could have missed the boat. On another occasion (I think it was 2 cycles before I had the FET and I was practicing with the ovulation kit), the kit said I O'd on day 17. So I don't think you should go by your cycle as such, just start testing around day 11 and you should be safe. Keep on testing until you get the confirmation of the surge. BTW, going by your temps, you could have caught that eggie!!!! All the best sweetie, I wish you all the love and luck in the world :)

B xxx

Thank You Girls..

Pixie - I trust my OB with my life (and he has had to save it once already this year after I hemorraged) it is his staff who generally try to cut corners and get things where they dont make sense.

Beata - my cycle is 30 days. and I "thought" i was ovulating around 14-16 too but I bought a stack of OPKs last month and decided I was going to see when the surge was. cd14 15 and 16 came and went. and then lo and behold cd 19 and 20 had 2 of the biggest surge ever. (needless to say we didnt let it go to waste. :lol: )

I think your right about that eggie. I have a strong feeling this month is it. My temp last night was up again 37.3.....

oh and just to let everyone know about the original post. It was my OBs secretary who was being a little too "know it all " with information she is not educated to explain. Now we all have it sorted, after an appology and a nice information phone call from my OB himself .

OK basically there is no way of knowing if you have bee successful with a progestrone level test. All it tells you is that your numbers MUST fit between 20 - 100 for ovulation to occur. sooooooo if you were to come back and get a 14 or a 7. nine times out of ten you havent ovulated, OR depending on when you got the bt, you would be post ovulatory. If you got a low number at the end of a cycle, it would be better to test 8-10 days earlier, to see if you ovulate early.

I hope I have made enough sense.

So is 10DPO a good time to start testing HPT????? I am obsessed at the moment, but I am restraining myself till Friday, which will be 10 dpo. And is the morning wee better for HPT?