Things not adding up

Hi Ladies,

I need to ask if anyone has fallen UTD (with what would be a female child due to the timing,) 5 days before their fertile phase?

I had my last period on the 10th December with a 30-31 day cycle give or take variance between cycles. Darling BF and I DTD on the 17th Dec, and I didn't start becoming fertile until the weekend. (between 21-22nd).

I am possibly a week out from my next period, although the Essential baby Egg timer app has me due in 4 days. (Don't really think its 100% accurate but more of a guide than the rule.)
My CM is certainly not showing pre AF CM, by now its usually gone back to the tacky cottage cheese which is kind of a drier time. I still have egg white and little bits of whitish CM.

The last few days I have been feeling nausiated, especially within minutes of waking up this morning, and my boobs are so swollen and sore, just like I'm getting AF. It doesn't add up? I had such a bad tummy ache at lunch time, and couldn't 'go' in the bathroom. I thought 'man I really need some more fiber or drink more water'.

I keep putting it all down to the heat, as its been extremely hot and we all feel yuk with the heat, and just AF coming. I even went and bought 2 packs of pads today.

The thing I can't work out is why I still have egg white CM this late before AF, and wether or not if sperm can survive up to 5 days in the womans body, then longer once the fertile CM appears if its possible to still get UTD.

I am a little worried, as my Doctors have been weaning me off Sodium Valporate so we could baby dance without any tetragenic effects to the foetus. I was on 500mg twice daily, I am down to the last 200mg until the end of January then off it completely. I am meant to see my diabetic specialist in 4 months with good sugar control so we really weren't planning on it yet.

Has any one had a similar experience with a suprise daughter? I'm not being sex favourtist, it's just that the male sperm would have already died for sure in that space of time.

Thanks Heaps
June.

I guess anything is possible! However, if you were only entering the fertile phase 5 days after DTD I would think it would be unlikely to be UTD as usually you don't O for a few days after this again. However, like I said, anything is possible....perhaps your cycle was shorter this time?

Hi Junipear,
I came off an IVF stim cycle in August with no luck, got AF on the 1st September.
The one and only time DH and I DTD was on the 9th because I was still very sore, and I'd had a tubal flush on the 7th.
I was due for AF on 29th and she never came, two weeks later still no AF and BFN on HPT.
Got bloods done on day 59cycle with beta of 24.
They think I Oed two weeks late due to the stim cycle, that was explaining my level of 24 on day 59 and had fallen pg naturally..... But the one and only time we had DTD was on day 8 of my cycle when I Oed around day 20-24.
Chances are we are having another girl, but that means the sperm would have survived almost two weeks? Either that or it's an immaculate conception and I have a baby Jesus on board :)

But anyway, if you are UTD, I hope that everything is fine and healthy..., good luck baby making :)

Hi

I guess it's true anything is possible. I was always so careful not to DTD from CD 10, as from then its only a matter of days until ovulation.

We DTD on cycle day 8, so it still might be possible the female sperm is still alive inside the female body. Accompany that with some seed food once fertile signs arrive and it could even work the same as semen extender that we use in the horses for A.I.

I must be getting something, I have a big blind zit beside my chin:D

It would be nice If I did conceive, and I would have to do some fast work notifying my medical team. I'm a bit more used to it now, at first I had a hard time dealing with the fact that I had so many doctors involved in something so intimate and private. It just felt like the bed was getting a little crowded. LOL But then, to consider a lot of women have their entire IVF team and doctors it's not so bad after all. :)

Thanks heaps ladies.
June

Good luck! Let us know how you go!

Hi Ladies,

I was a bit shocked yesterday when AF turned up.This cycle really didn't add up at all. Whats even more puzzeling is that AF turns up on day 27. I havn't had a 27 day cycle in years. Im regular at 30-31.

The crazy thing is that when I count back my leuteal phase, there is no way we could have missed. Either the egg didn't pop and my body tried again with the extended CM I was seeing late in my cycle, which it can do, or there just wasn't an egg at all. POCOS maybe?

Im really deflated today. dissapointed, loosing hope, and we havn't even begun to even try. I kinda knew AF was coming because my libido spiked days before AF as it does.
I laugh that it does because it's like your body still thinks it could get pregnant at the last minute and chances are probably 1 in a million. Its like 'hey...theres no egg...it's gone!' lol.

I don't know, part of me feels like this baby making thing is just too heart breaking and an emotional roller coaster I don't think I can cope with. It would just be so much easier to be childless and not have the worry. Im even beginning to think why am I going through this medication reduction if its all for nothing when I could still be on it and feeling fantastic? But my heart and my arms feel so empty.

I think I just need to go and cry under the shower for a few hours.:cry:

Thanks ladies

June

I'm sorry to hear AF turned up. It's very easy to feel deflated each time it occurs, but I'm sure you'll get a BFP soon if you keep trying. I read that it takes a 'normal' healthy couple an average of 6 months to fall pregnant when DTD at the right time, so keep trying! It's totally worth it. That being said, feel free to be upset too. It's heartbreaking each month it doesn't work.