Taking off nappy

I have posted this here instead of the TT section, as I think it more behavioural than anything. Jack will not keep a nappy on, and if he wears undies will wee or poo in them. He has been doing this for a couple of weeks, and today it has escalated. He keeps taking his DRY nappy off to wee or poo on the floor. He knows how to go to the toilet by himself but just isn't. We even put his nappy and cover on backwards to make them harder to get off - he got them off more easily than we could put them on LOL!! He said he wanted to wear undies so I put him in undies and despite using the toilet twice in a short space of time, still managed to wet his pants. Any ideas??

Have you thought about trying Pull Ups? They are can be expensive, but maybe it will only be a phase he is going through. Also, a friend of mine put a potty in the tiled family area of the house and her daughter was happy to remove her nappy and go there because she always had someone to see her and give praise straight away.

Here are some thinking-aloud ideas, hope one helps:

Cloth nappy training pants - that way they're pants and he feels wet but accidents aren't all over the outfit.

Let him pick 2-3 potties and have one in every room.

Can he take off popper nappy covers or just the velcro ones?

Can you just let him run around outside in just a T-shirt with a potty around for a few hours and praise him loads when he uses the potty (less floor-cleaning for you if he doesn't)? My MiL swears by this method of toilet training.

I have just noticed that you have *just* given birth to a new baby. Often children will regress with their toileting when a new baby comes along, very very common. Perhaps he doesnt want to go back to wearing a nappy because he is a 'big boy'?

Keep a mop and bucket handy and keep reminding him to go to the toilet.

Perhaps some 'special undies' like with his favourite character on it ..may encourage him to go to the loo?

It may be his way of getting your attention with the new baby this behavious is extremly common in toddlers with new babies. So perhaps, as hard as it is, try spend some special time with him without the baby?

HTH
Jen

LOL BabyBella - look at Tom's birthdate again - he just turned 1!! Although I swear it feels like he was just born!!

Thanks for the ideas gals. Unfortunately he has never used a potty - mum and dad use a toilet so that's what he wants to use. Although I guess it might be worth another shot. I might also have to look into cloth nappy training pants, but I think we will have the same problem - he takes them off because it is a game, I think what he is wearing is largely irrelevant. And Ryn, he can take ANYTHING off! So far re-trying the potty looks like the best option.

I'll let you know how I go.

I'm dreading that - DS can already take off a velco nappy in about 20 seconds!

Encourage him to use the toilet, that's what I saw on a baby show today and it worked a charm :)

My friend has this problem with her little girl. She only tries to keep them on when they're going out, when she wears her nappies with velcro fastenings AND a nappy nippa AND 2 satefy pins! On top of that she wears a vest that fastens between the legs, back to front so the poppers are behind her bum. It more or less works, but nappy changes are hassley.

Bec

Oh!! sorry I just looked at the september birthday lol didn't see the "06" ! Hope its improving for you with the other girls suggestions
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Jen

I was thinking about this last night Mel...I was thinking about what we do with puppies.

1. Camp out for a weekend with the dog and be there every second praising the dog when they've done their business in the right place. For dog owners we recommend a bottle of wine, some reading material and lawn chairs... I guess for mums & dads it would be something like a potty in the room where you are and being in the same room all the time.... And by praising we mean jumping up & down and playing.

2. If you catch them in the act say a firm "uh uh" and direct them straight to the toilet. If it is a child I guess I would pick them up & run LOL

3. Be patient a puppies bladder isn't fully formed until they are 16 weeks (ROFL doesn't really apply to Jack though)

4. There will be mistakes in the process, so ignore them if you don't catch them in the act... clean them up without a word & go back to what you were doing. The more attention you give mistakes the more mistakes they will make behaviourally because attention is attention whether or not its good or bad. Puppies (and children ;)) thrive off attention no matter its form.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with my behavioural break down of puppy TT, but I was thinking it might be another way of TT a toddler. I have to admit I forgot number 4 alot when I was cleaning poo off the ground...

Matilda finally "got it" when she got a horrible nappy rash for refusing to let us change a pooey nappy. From that moment on she refused to do a poo in the nappy & would run to the toilet.

What about a star chart or something similar to praise him when he does go to the loo? And I think the few days of toilet-training would be good too if you can do it. Though from what you say he is quite capable of actually going to the loo. But maybe the constant praise for catching him doing the right thing for a few days will make the difference. Can you get someone over to help you with Tom and you concerntrate on Jack for a few days, like your mum or a sister...? Maybe your DP could have a week off or something??

Thanks everyone. I am trying all that advice. It seems to work sometimes but not others. Less than 5 minutes after he got off the toilet this morning he took hs nappy off and pooed on the floor. I will stick at it and hopefully see an improvement in a few days. I guess the biggest problem is that much as I have tried not to, I have probably shown some reaction when he's done it and now the damage is done.

LOL Christy - the puppy trianing analogy is very apt I think!

I had the same problem with my DD when she was little. I used masking tape going from one side of the nappy right around. It is near impossible for them to get undone but quite easy for you to rip when you want to change the nappy. Good luck it can be very frustrating.

Hi there, I have just joined and I have been reading with great interest your troubles. We tape our daughter into her nappies and have been doing so for at least six mths. She doesn't like it but i don't feel she is ready to go thru the nite without a nappy. When she wakes her nappy is soaked. Has anyone seen or heard of anything specifically made and marketed to overcome this prob? Do you think this is a very common prob?

Hi Emelia :D

I've found my Pip (although only 10 months) will remove his nappy if its very wet, so maybe that's the problem? Are you using sposies or cloth?

If sposies, maybe try the next size up and put a wondersuit on over the top?

Emilia's mum, some MCN (modern cloth nappy) users find that nappies that fasten with snaps can work. Sadly for me they didn't as Jack could undo those too. Others have had success with putting the nappies on backwards but Jack could undo those too LOL. We have solved our problem now - he is fully TTd. But now DS2 is taking off his nappy. So far he is mostly ok if there are pants over his nappy, but I think soon he won't let that stop him either! Oh well, one day he will be TTd too!!

Hi to All, do you think this is a common problem? Or are we just a few unlucky ones? Do you think if there was a product specifically designed to alleviate this prob, people would want to buy???