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Hi everyone,
For those of you who have chose not to immunise, how did you handle the criticism from family, friends and the medical profession?
After one negative comment from a doctor, I have taken to saying that I plan on waiting until my DS is over one.He is now getting closer and close to one and I have no intention of immunising him.
Just curious to see what other do in this situation.
Laura
Before i would have just ignored it but im getting so sick of everyone having their own negative opinion and expressing it to me. So now i just say, look i'm their mother, i've done my research and it's my choice. I don't tell you how to parent, so you have no right to tell me how to. Or something alone those lines. It may be harsh but it gets straight to the point and i don't say it in an angry tone as such.
I can totally relate to your pain and we should all be entitled to our own decisions without debating each time the topic comes up. I believe 'Immunisation' should be added to the list of things NEVER to be discussed - sex, religion, politics, immunisation - hehe.
i always say 'we havent ruled immunising out but at this stage we want her immune system to build up naturally.'
i do know if there was an epidemic of something i would be more inclined to do it.... if i thought she would get exposed.
our pead was fine with it to and just said if ever she has a high temp and we are really worried about what it might be then take her straight to A&E and say this is un-immunised child and they are likely to do lots of tests rather then being fobed off...
Yeah I just say, well we're not vaccinating them at this stage, but we might as they get closer to primary school. Because, for us, that's true, I didn't see the sense in vaccinating my 6 month olds, but a 3 or 4 year old might benefit from a tetanus shot perhaps...I will make that decision later...
Hi there.
I feel you!!! I personally do not go to GPs - (haven't been to a doctor in years and don't intend to go to one again if i can help it), so i don't have to worry about them nagging me about my choice not to vaccinate. My sons chief health advisor is my Naturopath and she is BRILLIANT. A true miracle worker.... anyways, to answer the question....
I find it really pays somewhat the get as educated as you can with the reasons why people choose not to vaccinate. (I.e- be able to list the ingredients to people and tell them what exactly they are, and what short and long-term effects they can have on the body).
Letting people know where and how the vaccines are cultured is also a good thing to know.
For example, when my MIL (a staunch catholic) made a negative comment for not vaccinating DS, I responded; "did you know that numerous vaccine viruses are cultured using the cell lines from aborted and discarded human fetuses?" Needless to say, that shut her up good and proper. Little did she know that she had been indirectly supporting something that she believes so strongly against!!!! I told her that if she's interested in finding out more, I have a whole army of unpleasant truths stuck up my sleeve!!
It sucks, I know- but you just have to stick to your guns, and say confidently that you have made your decision after thoroughly examining sound evidence-based research. I usually find the ones who criticise the most are the ones who know the least about vaccination. They have their blinkers on when it comes their GP - he may be dressed in white- but he is certainly not God and his word is not gospel!!!
Just to clarify this point (for reader's here, not for the MIL).:
Human cell line cultures are used to produce the rubella vaccine virus that is used in MMR and single rubella vaccine. "Some of these cell lines originated from aborted fetal tissue, obtained from legal abortions in the 1960's. No new fetal tissue is needed to produce cell lines to make these vaccines, now or in the future. Fetal tissue is not used to produce vaccines; cell lines generated from a single fetal tissue source are used; vaccine manufacturers obtain human cell lines from FDA-certified cell banks. After processing, very little, if any, of that tissue remains in the vaccine."
Cell lines are self sustaining. As long as they are at the right temperature, and given the right food, they keep splitting and are able to keep growing and growing. So, the original cell may have come from an aborted fetus, but they don't need to keep getting tissue from fetuses in order to continue making the vaccine.
Basically, all you have to say is; "it's my child, i'm her mother, i would never put her in any sort of harm, if this is what i want to do, then i honestly think it's in the best interests of my daughter"
I can't stand how people automatically think that their way is better. And even at 5-6 weeks along for me, i have already been getting critisized about my choices about my pregnancy. I've opted for an elective c-section because of a health condition. And even though i could do a natural birth, depending on how my body is at the time of birth, i'm not going to take that risk with my baby.
My mother took the same road as you, and i missed out on some of the first immnisations and i have an amazing immunity system. While a few friends of mine who got all the needles, have bad immunities.
Babies bodies need to make some of those antibodies themselves. I don't believe in getting kids immunised for chicken pox or the measles. If children don't get those when their young, they may get them when their older. because while chicken pox or the measles, to a child might make them sick and spotty and pull them out of school while their young for a couple of weeks. If they get older and haven't had those sicknesses, and then get them, the chance of them being fatal is dramatically increased. chicken pox and measles are fine for kids, but not for adults or the elderly.
When i had both of them, i couldn't go near my father, because he had never had them, he had to move out for the three weeks i was sick.
And if my bub ever gets them, my partner ashley has to move out for the time while their sick, because he never had them.
The whole issue depends on what your beliefs are, do what you think is best for your child, because she's your daughter, and you'll do exactly what you think is right. Bugger anyone else
Thanks for the clarification, KateO7. I am glad to read it. However, for my MIL, knowing that any cell lines were originally derived from an aborted fetus would be more than enough to turn her off!!
Personally, I am more concerned with the live cells used to culture the other vaccines- monkey's kidneys, bovine calf serum, genetically-modified yeast cells, chick embyos, etc.
These are all very foreign substances to the human body. There is increasing concern about the effect these substances have, particularly when injected straight into the blood stream - bypassing the usual route of administration for infection- the mucous membranes (aka mouth & nose). The way the body develops antibodies is far superior and long-lasting when exposed via the mucous membranes than via the bloodstream - which catches the immune system off guard.
Anyways- this is off topic so I won't dribble on......
Thanks guys! I've got some good statements from you.
I never knew about the aborted fetuses! Makes me even more secure in my decision.
What's the difference if it's already dead?? Its cells. If it will stop my baby getting whooping cough, who is ALIVE, then I will take that.
Also not all 'aborted' babies are aborted because they aren't wanted. Some are spontaniously aborted, others need to be aborted for medical reasons.
You make immunising seem bad when you say it all like that, which it isn't.
If I had to abort my baby, I would prefer his cells go to keeping other children healthy and stopping these horrible diseases from circulating.
And no I have nothing against not immunising.