position of baby and what you can feel....

This is my second posterior baby.

Dumb question, but if I can successfully get this baby to turn, what does a baby the right way around feel like?
I can feel all feel and hands (and occasionally spine if itgoes sideways).

How can it get it to turn?

Good posture, tilt pelvis forward, knees to chest postion for 20 minutes alternating with being on all fours doing pelvic rocking, gentle massage to encourage bub to turn and visualising. I am in the same boat as you right now and I have spent most of the night doing the pelvic rocking and knee to chest position. My doula and midwife both said that the back is the only firm spot you will feel when palpitating the middle of your belly, you will be able to tell the difference between a limb and back for the most part. Good luck, it makes the thought of labour scary when you are faced with posterior pain for the second time in a row :doh:

ETA: you want the baby to have its back more pointing to the left as it is less likely to go posterior when you go into labour than if it is on the right side.

go to www.spinningbabies.com for some tips on how to get a OP bub to turn, but the main things are to not slouch back in lounge chairs etc - keep good posture at all times and spend as much time as you can on all fours. When a bub is fully anterior, all you can feel is their back - a big hard mass the length of your belly and you wont feel a great deal of movement right at the front, it will be more towards the sides and at the back.

ETA - if all that fails, it is possible to successfully birth an OP baby without too much trouble. spinning babies also has some tips for you to use in labour to help bubs turn during contractions. You will have to be dedicated in your attempts over the coming weeks though. And try not to be too concerned about it - some babies wont turn till labour starts (although it's often a catch 22 because the baby's head needs to push on the cervix to help things along) and others wont turn till they are on the perenium. My last two were OP babies and knowing what I had previously learnt from my first OP birth made my next one a lot easier to deal with and he was born in around 6hrs, so it wont necessarily mean a long birth either.

Cool thanks.
I've been tilting forward....all fours, but what's knees to chest? Not sure if I can even manage that.....

Sitting on the loo helps too or a fit ball, because you need to have the front of your pelvis as open as it can be - having your legs apart opens the front of your pelvis and makes the back of it smaller and the baby is meant to move around the *right* way because it fits better kwim? Like the path of least resistance. So no more crossing of legs either, because that will open the back of your pelvis and close the front.

knees to chest is all fours but bum in air, hard to do with a belly but i just spread my legs a bit.