LTTTC Two Week Wait 2012 # 5

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is there such a thing as a TWW for a TWW??? :rofl:


cause I feel like I am in it.... ;)

Haha myturn, probably! You'll be here soon enough :)

Geez it's quiet here for the time being...I'm thinking of changing my BT from Friday 13th to either the Thursday or Monday. Don't want to tempt fate......Just don't know what to think about this cycle, during the day not much is happening, and then come night time I get crampy, boobies are much sorer, funny taste in the mouth and sore back. Tomorrow during the day I'll feel like there is no symptoms at all and get all worried :wall:

thanks for the big hug girls xoxoxox
will know by BT tomoz for sure but yeah right i know answer lol.
Keep strong miss B xoxo all the symptom checking drives you crazy hey!
good luck x

Hi ladies
I haven't been on for the last few months, but thought I would jump on again for this 2ww!!
Had my fresh transfer on wed of 2 expanded blasties (only ever had 2 day transfers), so I also have my blood test on Friday the 13th!! Not quite sure what to make of that!
I'm feeling the same I think missb, sore boobs one minute, nothing the next. My fs said that this embie should be implanting tomorrow, so i just know that I'm going to be analyzing every little twinge.
Oh well,
I hope everyone else is having a good day!

Sarah, good luck for tomorrow sweetie :crossfingers:

Hi Rach and congrats on being PUPO! Welcome to the crazy 2WW :) Yes, I'm over analyzing everything too! haha. Hopefully we can all get the news we want soon :pray:. I'm really not sure about this Friday 13th BT date though, lol.

Good luck girls :)

Pretty sure, I will be out by tomorrow.... Feeling AF is on her way.

:hug: Emma :(

Miss B - I know you won't be able to wait until Monday.... best make it thursday if you don't want to do it on friday. ;)

Welcome back Rach FX eveything works out for you.... (I'm actually just stalking this thread, and will be popping in after you guys leave for the belly buddies thread ;) )

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is there such a thing as a TWW for a TWW??? :rofl:


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Ahh so there is. Thanks. I can go home now I've learned something new :).

How are you feeling today Emma? You must be relieved your 2WW is almost over. Keeping my fingers and toes tightly crossed for you that AF just stays the hell away! xx

GL today again Sarah, thinking of you xx

Well AFM, I want more re assuring signs/symptoms/tweaks what ever, DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!! Why can't we just feel it one way or another? Sore boobs, then not so sore boobs, back pain, then no back pain. Cramping, then no cramping. Arrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhh!!! Ok rant over, I am testing again on Sunday. I will not pee on that stick till then :shakehead:

Hi Ladies,

Thinking of you all.

Emma and Sarah - big hugs whatever the BT results are.

Miss B - feel your pain with looking for signs.

As for me - I fear I may have graduated from the thread prematurely. Started bleeding today. Could me it is all over. :( Freaking out. Am waiting for a call back from the nurses at the clinic.

Sorry Jane :( I hope everything turns out okay !! Look after yourself :hug:

Oh Jane honey - I hope you are ok. It's happened to me twice in the last 7 days. It's so terrifying. I hope your clinic calls soon.

Oh no Jane! I hope it's nothing serious hun, will keep my fingers crossed tightly for you sweetie :crossfingers::hug: xoxox

Thanks girls. Have had some heavy bleeding today. Rushed to the clinic for some urgent bloods. Just waiting on it to be processed and to be phoned with the results. Hoping to know tonight but it could be tomorrow. On an up note, I just POAS and still got that second line so am crossing absolutely everything.

Mrs P - sorry to hear you also had some bleeding - hope everything has settled down for you.

How are you going Miss B? Have you POAS this weekend?

Emma and Sarah - not sure where youre at but hoping you are getting spoilt with lots of TLC

Fingers crossed Jane xx

Fingers and toes crossed Jane that all is well :crossfingers:. I did do a sneaky test today, so 5 days post transfer, BFN :(

Hellooooooo!!! Is anyone out there???? Feeling very lonely in here :(

Rach, how are you going hun? I forgot to ask you about your embies last time, were they compacting morulas? My embie was apparently, was supposed to be a blastie when we transferred it on day 5 but it was at a stage just before it reaches the blastocyst. What is an expanding blastie??

I'm driving myself crazy here, I have a gut feeling this cycle hasn't worked :( Ho hum!

Chin up missb, I guess since I have jumped back on here that technically I am in here and half way through a natural tww. I don't hold much hope as DH had surgery the week of ovulation. He was so funny and sweet he sucked up the pain to dtd so we had some kind of hope.

Crossing my fingers for you that you get two lines soon hunny. I love coming and checking on everyone and watching them graduate to pregnancy threads, hope you are next xo

hey miss b - i am technically in the tww... although i dont usually come in here during natural cycles... thought i would pop in to let you know you are not alone in here! when is your BT? sorry the tww is not treating you very well. i have had expanding blasts transferred, pretty sure that expanding blasts mean that they are just about to hatch. ;)

oh Miss B - chin up :comfort:

Hi everyone
Miss B, how are you going? From what I can gather an expanded blastocyst is:
"As the blastocyst continues to accumulate blastocoelic fluid, it expands to form - you guessed it - an expanded blastocyst. The blastocyst stage is also a landmark in that this is the first time that two distinctive tissues are present. A blastocyst is composed of a hollow sphere of trophoblast cells, inside of which is a small cluster of cells called the inner cell mass. Trophoblast goes on to contribute to fetal membrane systems, while the inner cell mass is destined largely to become the embryo and Fetus."
I think it is just before it hatches from the egg and continues to grow. How are you feeling? I can't decide whether my symptoms are in my head or real. Really the main thing at the moment is sore bb, to the point it hurts to roll over in bed! nothing much else. Some vague occasional lower back ache. How bout you?
Hi andie and kerbear!
Jane, i hope you've had some good news this morning!

Hi rach, your sb sound very promising, hope it's a sign of graduation from here ;-)

Hello ladies,

Yay some company in the 2WW!

Kerbear and Andie, I was here in my natural cycle too just before the IVF cycle, I was like a pin cushion from all the acu sessions so I figured I could have a miniscule chance of a natural conception! Not to be, but it was fun chatting to the other ladies :) GL to you both girls :crossfingers:

Thanks myturn :hug:

Rach it sounds positive hun! In my last cycle which resulted in a BFP, my boobies were so sore I couldn't roll over in bed without crying! And had on and off cramping with lower back pain too, so all positive signs! Gl hun x

AFM, well I'm pretty certain I am out. Boobies are not that sore this morning, and I feel NADA!!!!! The cramping has halted and even my back feels OK. And would you believe it, on all previous mornings I could have POAS as I had boxes on HPT in the cupboard, and this mornign being 6 dpt, which is when I normally get a true result, I have no HPTs at home!!!! Kinda not looking forward to testing as I know what the answer will be already. But I will test tonight, to put my mind at rest. If it's BFN, I will test again on Wednesday being 8 dpo, and if it's still BFN, I'll just leave it at that. For once in all my IVF journey (apart from the first cycle in which I didn't test as I didn't think it wold work, although it did) I don't feel excited and full of anticipation of POASing anymore :(

Be back later xxx

Thanks for the positive thoughts kerbear and miss b. As ive never had a positive test, I am finding it hard to determine what is just the crinone, and what might actually be happening. Arrrgggghhh!!
Miss b, I can relate to that feeling of hopelessness with my previous ivf cycle. After months of clomid and IUI's, I had my hopes so high for my first IVF it was ridiculous. I think in retrospect I was still in denial that we had major fertility issues, so I just assumed that IVF was it....this would definitely work!!! How wrong I was. By my fourth transfer it was almost as if I was just going through the motions, and I knew it was never going to work. I suppose you can't expect yourself to constantly remain hopeful and excited after being knocked down so many times.
I possibly stupidly, have allowed myself to get excited for this new cycle, as we have tried a few different things, such as accupuncture for months before hand for me and DH, as well as taking royal jelly and CoQ10. This is also the furtherest I have managed to get in terms of doing a five day transfer, as I have only ever done a 2 day transfer, and I only really had one or two good embryos, with the rest being a bit slow. I am scared what will happen if I get another BFN, as I'm a bit afraid I am loosing hope and faith in this whole process.
I guess at the end of the day we have to accept that we are going to have days full of hope and promise, and days of the exact opposite. I think sometimes it does come down to a bit of self preservation, and trying to protect ourselves.
Sorry for the big rant, but it is something I've been brooding over for the past few weeks.
ATM my biggest gripe is constipation from my egg pickup and the Crinone. Holy moly!! Im currently cooking up a big batch of lentil soup to try and get things going. Anyone else got any tips?
Thanks everyone, and good luck :pray:

miss b - sorry the shine has been taken off of your poas addiction. :cry: i am hoping that your embie just took a bit longer to settle than previous times. xx

rach82 - its an old fashioned remedy, but prunes work for me. ;)

Rach, I've been in a different boat than you I suppose, having done 3 cycles of IVF previous to this cycle, and each time I got a BFP. I guess my run has finally run out! Even though I have only one living child from all the 3 positive cycles, all my embies managed to stick. This is the first time it probably hasn't worked, so this is all very new to me and it's bloody hard! I often wondered what it would be like to have a failed cycle and I guess I now know, it's not very nice :( I'm sorry you've had such a tough journey so far hun, and I really hope this cycle is the one that works for you. I have also done a lot of acupuncture (4 months) before this current cycle (not before any of my previous ones) and you would think that it would actually help with things! I did get more eggs this time, but it looks like they were all dud. Very disappointed with that as I have spent a small fortune on the treatment. I really don't know where to go from here, the acupuncturist suggested a different approach if this cycle doesn't work with boiling and drinking the herbs but I'm just not sold ATM :dunno:.

Andie, thanks hun, but I really think I'm out. Tested this afternoon at 6 dpt and it's still a BFN :( Not holding out much hope now.

Miss b, joeve got her natural bfp drinking the herbs. Maybe chat with her xxx

and here I am!!!
Miss B I was doing accupunture before and during IVF cycle and then when that didn't work I kept it going the following month. My TCM person gave me herbs to help with my CM in that month after IVF and to balance to hormones a bit. I was just mixing them with boiling water and drinking twice per day. I also self medicated with my left over crinone from about 5 days after I thought I ov, every second night I would use one tube. After my BFP I went onto other herbs for a few weeks but I am off them now and continuing my weekly needle sessions.

Please someone stop me eating....I have been working so hard to lose weight and after 20kgs off I can't stop snacking today and it scares me cause I don't want to gain it back.
I would love to believe its cause I am pregnant but I know better than that.
I know AF will arrive at the end of the week like clockwork and break my heart yet again :-(
Sorry that was just a blurt all about me.

Hope you lovely ladies have all had a good weekend and are coping with your tww or at least distracted by doing things.

Thanks Vic and Joeve. I wish I had even a slither of a chance with natural conception. DF's swimmers are being produced normally but they aren't coming down the sausage, so there is no chance of a live swimmer coming down. 100% blockage we've been told, and when DF had his SA done, it came back as zero. The only reason we keep trying naturally anyway (around O time especially), is b/c my FS keeps saying that he's seen stranger things happen with people in our situation falling pg naturally. I'm afraid my eggs have had it now. And I don't think I could consider donor eggs. I really don't know how to approach it now, maybe get FS to try something different in terms of improving my eggs, change FS, or just call it quits. I can't afford almost $100 per week on acu sessions :(

Big hugs Miss B :hug: If it makes you feel any better (probably not, but worth a shot right?) I had no symptoms during the TWW when I got my BFP. I honestly thought it hadn't worked and you could have knocked me over with a feather when the test came back positive. The sore boobs started once I knew I was pregnant.

Now I just have the preggo constipation - trust me 14 days between poo's is not fun :rolleyes:

Much love xxx

Thanks Amy, I really appreciate you popping in :) It's not so much the symptoms (or the lack of them actually) that are worrying me hun, it's the blank POAS! lol. I tested this morning at 7 dpo and still BFN :(

I've got a wee question ladies.....I went to bed fairly early last night feeling sorry for myself, and totally forgot to put the crinone in. Should I put that dose in this morning or just leave it? Is it any use putting it in now anyway?

miss b, if it were me i would just put it in now. wont hurt. if you're unsure, just give your nurses a ring to confirm. and yes - there is a use in putting it in now anyway... like you have said before, you never know...! :)

new cy for me girls BT was neg :shakehead: no af yet so waiting. so over it all right now but trying to be positive!ugh!
big hugs miss b xoxo so know how u feel...
and emma i hope your ok xxoo.
good luck andie, kerbear and rach :goodluck:.... and anybody i have missed, my brain isnt working lol....

ill be back here i guess shortly.... dh will b home from working away at o time for once so i guess we will do a natural clomid cy. xo

Bugger Sarah :(
More waiting :(

BT today- just want to jump straight into another cycle.... I don't have an appointment with my FS- so not sure how that will work!
I'll be at the clinic today- so hopefully we can get something sorted!


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Sorry there's not a lot happening in here girls. Big hugs for all of you xxxx

Sarah sorry to hear the bad news, i'm sure no words will make you feel any better today.

Emma, I didn't have an appointment between my IVF cycle and this months FET, I just spoke with my FS on the phone and he arranged my new protocol. For me it was too late to do back to back but if you can speak with him soon there should be no problem doing another cycle right away.

AFM ladies as of 10am today I am PUPO with a lovely looking hatching blast and now for 10 days of agony waiting.